Sako - gotta love them. Mine is a TRG M10 with 308 Win and 338 LM barrels. Best group for the 308, hand loaded with VV N150 powder, Lapua scenar 12g bullet, Federal 215 LR primer, fine tuned for both charge and cartridge length base-to-ogive, produced a 5 shot group 0.2 MOA @ 150m. Good enough for me.
I too have a green one. TRG22. From early 2000’s. Completely built around the 168gr BTHP. Even the Burris XTR scope. With Black Hills or a quality ammo it will make one ragged hole all day. 26” barrel with Gemtech titanium Sandstorm can threaded by them for the metric thread. Great setup.
Worth it, I have a TRG 21 from 1997 on it third barrel and the fourth will stay 308. For 6.5 I have the Tikka T3XA1, 20” barrel and getting a 26” Lothar Walther thicker barrel put on. TRG 42 in 300WM. Nice been retired in Germany! Quit doing all the International Sniper matches, now at 79 belly shooting (F Class), keep the powder dry!
Yes but shooting F-Class Sniper Open here in Europe. Regardless I am having fun and staying within my retirement paychecks from Uncle Sam, Social Security and last but not least German retirement also 😂! Not shooting for fun, not for money or prices. Sorry for the late reply, having to much fun and traveling all over Europe. Enjoy our good President again!
Nice piece of kit. A gunmaker who puts the tool storage in a useful place on a military rifle, instead of making you struggle with butt storage or turn the rifle upside down to access a pistol grip cavity-which weakens the pistol grip! Has to be a first. That Bullet Seeker chronograph seems like a good idea. Thanks for showing us your toy🙂!
My TRG 22 6.5cm action and trigger smokes the action and trigger on my 11,000.00 custom precision build. Hard to match the TRG mechanics. Smoothest bolt I've ever worked.
I kinda feel like AI is overrated. Probably one of the best guns similar to this is the Tikka Tac A1. This TRG looks amazing tho. The quality in these rifles is outstanding.
@@camonly849 You "kinda feel" like AI is overrated? You're wrong. I HATE the company Accuracy International. I also hate KAC for similar reasons that I won't bore you with. And while KAC is absolutely overrated, AIs are not. I wish they were because I don't like giving money to companies that I don't like, but even after my frustration with AI (that involved my AXSA, I bought an AXSR and an AX50 ELR). I have two TRGs (non A1s) and they are amazing guns, too, but nowhere near as rugged. The AI will still be functional 500 years from now (assuming the plastic skins can be replaced and in 500 years you should be able to "microwave" some), and the TRGs will not. The TAC A1 is potentially the best bang for your buck gun you can get, but it's nowhere near this TRG A1. The average shooter may. never appreciate the differences, but people who put thousands of rounds downrange each year will be willing to pay more for the A1. The reason I said the TRG is nicer is because it's lighter, has a better trigger (this is preference), and has a better aesthetic (note that AIs are NOT Keymod, though). They will both shoot 1/4 minute with handholds (actually, we shot a new TRG A1 in just over a tenth (5 shot group) with the new TRG factory ammo). So, in short, AI the company sucks, but they make an amazing firearm.
Frank, I've had mine for over 20 yrs. However my green one is know Coyote painted with a folding stock. Dang near to old to get out there anymore my friend. Mighty good to see you still gettin it done. Take care, Vern "flea" Harrison
I am looking to purchasing this rifle within the next two months but in .308 as 6.5 Creedmore is very expensive to shoot per round. But I am at a mild impasse. If the max range of this is 1100 yrds, and the Ruger Precision can get me out to the same distance at a lower cost, why not go with Ruger? Please, anyone with great and scientific answers, I'd love to hear from you in the comments as I am a novice in this regard, but want the best for life.
6.5 creedmoor will be ballistically accurate for at least 1600meters (1750yrs). Ruger won’t come close to the master precision and Quality Sako is offering. Ruger is like Ford, SAKO is Rolla Royce.
The ruuger is a great rifle, and you cannot go wrong with it. The TRG and Tikka Tac A1 will feel more quality in hand. The bolt in both is some of the smoothest you will ever find, even compared to AI etc. I have the Tikka UPR and with berger 140s factory load I held a .25 inch group first try. These guns are insanely accurate and insanely good. If you want a great rifle get a Tikka or Sako. My next will be a sako, since I do not have one. Good luck brother!
@@meuls82if you’re a novice I’d strongly recommend buying the ruger instead, get used to that and really figure out what you like, also if you’re going to shoot matches you’ll find that the sako really isn’t the best option it’s more geared towards a service aspect, which frank is much more in tune with. Save your money, learn on the ruger, then build a full custom rifle exactly like you want for the exact same money with more parts and preference options.
@@SHLowlight I actually bought this rifle with 308. in it and will try hunting but see how it goes usually big game but the size of the rifle feels like I need to get used to it?
Ya the only reason he recommended tikka is because tikka makes lighter rifles more suited for walking longer distances etc. Once you out a can, bipod, scope etc it starts to get heavy. Either way it's not a wrong buy. You can hunt and do competition with it if you decide then.
@SHLowlight you have shooters with 4 years experience telling someone with a national championship what works. The moderators are all one sided as are you. Facts don't matter on typershide and you know it.
@@lynndragoman2454 If you are so smart and have a national title you would think you could garner some respect, but if you act like a troll you get treated like one. Do you wear your national title on a chain or is it tattooed on your forehead ?
@SHLowlight I realize you hate the more accurate forms of shooting but your putting your head in the sand on technology advances isn't doing you or your forum any good. It's okay for your your inexperienced shooters to trash someone who competes and runs matches but it's not okay when they get called on there BS? Your double standard isn't promoting the shooting sports and its why all the best shooters refuse to post on your forum. The guy who went crying to you has only shot for 4 years now and owns one gun. I have given shooters a half dozen guns to promote shooting. Funny how you only see one side so I guess they are paid advertisers?
You have no clue what i am talking about but you know YOU banned me for talking about tuners and structured barrels and know my name? Its called your being very disingenuous
I never banned you, I have multiple moderators and I Have no idea what your problem is, sounds like if you were banned for talking that stuff, you crossed a line and acted like a troll, but I have no idea who you are, I just see you hit all my social media, so the name has been repeatedly seen on my accounts so I answered you, GO bitch to Erik Cortina if you want to complain about tuners
@SHLowlight since you own the forum look in my private messages and you will see me discussing structured barrels with Jon because I understand what he is after. I hold a BSME from Berkeley and a MSME from Ben-Gurion. If you check your statistics I was the 3rd most popular poster on your website. A structured barrel a tensioned barrel a tuner barrel all do the same thing they move the node which is 2.5 - 3 inches back from the muzzle closer to the crown. Picture a teeter totter and your moving the pivot point closer to one end. The seat end is still moving with the same amount of travel on one end but the other seat is moving far less thus producing less vertical. Whenever this is being explained Rio Precision Gunwerks chimes in with how he is a big manufacturer and Lynn knows nothing. The reality is his name is Dan Garcia and he does gun transfers in a storage shed after work from 5;30 pm to 8:00 by appointment only orders than 15 hours a week. The next nutjob calling me Linda in Tokay444 who has only owned 2 guns in his entire life one a 6.5 Creedmoor the other a 6BR. He is from Canada and shoots at the Galt facility mostly for plinking never in a match. Eric Cortina had Tim Sellars on his podcast and these same posters got you to delete the thread and Tim has been competing for 25 years and they combined have not one match under there belts. Your allowing of one sided banter is killing the board as everyone now calls it Typershide.
You clearly have no clue, what was your User Name on SH and I will look at who banned you, you claimed I banned you, I am saying I have moderators who ban people where I have no idea someone was banned, what is your account name on SH @@lynndragoman2454
Sako - gotta love them. Mine is a TRG M10 with 308 Win and 338 LM barrels. Best group for the 308, hand loaded with VV N150 powder, Lapua scenar 12g bullet, Federal 215 LR primer, fine tuned for both charge and cartridge length base-to-ogive, produced a 5 shot group 0.2 MOA @ 150m. Good enough for me.
You put a magnum primer in your .308?
@@OFFICIALUND sorry, my bad. It is actually 210, so not Magnum. I also load with 215 but not for 308 Win.
I too have a green one.
TRG22. From early 2000’s.
Completely built around the 168gr BTHP. Even the Burris XTR scope. With Black Hills or a quality ammo it will make one ragged hole all day.
26” barrel with Gemtech titanium Sandstorm can threaded by them for the metric thread.
Great setup.
Worth it, I have a TRG 21 from 1997 on it third barrel and the fourth will stay 308. For 6.5 I have the Tikka T3XA1, 20” barrel and getting a 26” Lothar Walther thicker barrel put on. TRG 42 in 300WM. Nice been retired in Germany! Quit doing all the International Sniper matches, now at 79 belly shooting (F Class), keep the powder dry!
We all know f class shoot Borden custom action and bartlein 32-33 inch barrel here in the US. We all shoot 284 for F open
Yes but shooting F-Class Sniper Open here in Europe. Regardless I am having fun and staying within my retirement paychecks from Uncle Sam, Social Security and last but not least German retirement also 😂! Not shooting for fun, not for money or prices. Sorry for the late reply, having to much fun and traveling all over Europe. Enjoy our good President again!
This is one of Frank's best rifle reviews
Nice piece of kit. A gunmaker who puts the tool storage in a useful place on a military rifle, instead of making you struggle with butt storage or turn the rifle upside down to access a pistol grip cavity-which weakens the pistol grip! Has to be a first. That Bullet Seeker chronograph seems like a good idea. Thanks for showing us your toy🙂!
Sako... always been a favorite of mine.
My TRG 22 6.5cm action and trigger smokes the action and trigger on my 11,000.00 custom precision build. Hard to match the TRG mechanics. Smoothest bolt I've ever worked.
This is an excellent review!
Very nice....Thanks for the video.
Thanks for a great video!
I'd like to know your distance to the targets on this video please?
Greetings from Finland, the Sako-country 🇫🇮🇺🇲
The scenar l 136 is my go to in 6.5 creedmoor
I bought factory berger loads of 130s and 140s and they were stacked. .25" at 100. I need to try these 136s tho.
Nice review. Contemplating getting one...
Sooooo much nicer than an AI, too. And I have 3 AIs.
I kinda feel like AI is overrated. Probably one of the best guns similar to this is the Tikka Tac A1. This TRG looks amazing tho. The quality in these rifles is outstanding.
@@camonly849 You "kinda feel" like AI is overrated? You're wrong. I HATE the company Accuracy International. I also hate KAC for similar reasons that I won't bore you with. And while KAC is absolutely overrated, AIs are not. I wish they were because I don't like giving money to companies that I don't like, but even after my frustration with AI (that involved my AXSA, I bought an AXSR and an AX50 ELR). I have two TRGs (non A1s) and they are amazing guns, too, but nowhere near as rugged. The AI will still be functional 500 years from now (assuming the plastic skins can be replaced and in 500 years you should be able to "microwave" some), and the TRGs will not.
The TAC A1 is potentially the best bang for your buck gun you can get, but it's nowhere near this TRG A1. The average shooter may. never appreciate the differences, but people who put thousands of rounds downrange each year will be willing to pay more for the A1.
The reason I said the TRG is nicer is because it's lighter, has a better trigger (this is preference), and has a better aesthetic (note that AIs are NOT Keymod, though). They will both shoot 1/4 minute with handholds (actually, we shot a new TRG A1 in just over a tenth (5 shot group) with the new TRG factory ammo).
So, in short, AI the company sucks, but they make an amazing firearm.
I shoot my Sako Varmint 308 in a GRS Hybrid 1/4 MOA every day of the week without fail. Boringly accurate.
Have the green TRG 22
Purchased new for $1,400.
Now they are $3,050!!!
Frank, I've had mine for over 20 yrs. However my green one is know Coyote painted with a folding stock. Dang near to old to get out there anymore my friend. Mighty good to see you still gettin it done. Take care, Vern "flea" Harrison
Super sick 😅
I am looking to purchasing this rifle within the next two months but in .308 as 6.5 Creedmore is very expensive to shoot per round. But I am at a mild impasse. If the max range of this is 1100 yrds, and the Ruger Precision can get me out to the same distance at a lower cost, why not go with Ruger? Please, anyone with great and scientific answers, I'd love to hear from you in the comments as I am a novice in this regard, but want the best for life.
6.5 creedmoor will be ballistically accurate for at least 1600meters (1750yrs). Ruger won’t come close to the master precision and Quality Sako is offering. Ruger is like Ford, SAKO is Rolla Royce.
The ruuger is a great rifle, and you cannot go wrong with it. The TRG and Tikka Tac A1 will feel more quality in hand. The bolt in both is some of the smoothest you will ever find, even compared to AI etc.
I have the Tikka UPR and with berger 140s factory load I held a .25 inch group first try. These guns are insanely accurate and insanely good. If you want a great rifle get a Tikka or Sako. My next will be a sako, since I do not have one. Good luck brother!
@@camonly849 Thank you! I'll be saving $4,000 to purchase the Sako and some accessories! Thank you once again!
@@meuls82 that will be awesome! Good luck!
@@meuls82if you’re a novice I’d strongly recommend buying the ruger instead, get used to that and really figure out what you like, also if you’re going to shoot matches you’ll find that the sako really isn’t the best option it’s more geared towards a service aspect, which frank is much more in tune with. Save your money, learn on the ruger, then build a full custom rifle exactly like you want for the exact same money with more parts and preference options.
Beautiful rifle I just don’t like the skinny barrel. I’m a fan of big barrels so I would have to swap it out with a full 1.25”
Did I miss what distances you were shooting?
Plates usually have a number on them, 600 yards for sure was one yard line
Is the chassis proprietary or a R700?
@@ErickLanda-h3q proprietary
do you recommend this rifle for big game hunting or hunting in general?
No there are Tikkas for that
@@SHLowlight I actually bought this rifle with 308. in it and will try hunting but see how it goes usually big game but the size of the rifle feels like I need to get used to it?
@@SHLowlight haven't used it yet tho except a range
Ya the only reason he recommended tikka is because tikka makes lighter rifles more suited for walking longer distances etc. Once you out a can, bipod, scope etc it starts to get heavy. Either way it's not a wrong buy. You can hunt and do competition with it if you decide then.
What's the price in US? Finland it is about 8000$😮
They have been sold for the past year in Finland for 5900€, which is 6.5k USD
looks up the price *Dies inside with poorness*
I thought you was married to AI bro
We just live together
Why do they ban all the knowledgeable posters and keep the trolls?
I am gonna ban you too on here as well, you have said nothing knowledgeable and just act like a troll chasing my comments
@SHLowlight you have shooters with 4 years experience telling someone with a national championship what works.
The moderators are all one sided as are you.
Facts don't matter on typershide and you know it.
I have no clue what you are on about, you just say nonsense like we know what you are talking about @@lynndragoman2454
@@lynndragoman2454 If you are so smart and have a national title you would think you could garner some respect, but if you act like a troll you get treated like one. Do you wear your national title on a chain or is it tattooed on your forehead ?
@SHLowlight I realize you hate the more accurate forms of shooting but your putting your head in the sand on technology advances isn't doing you or your forum any good.
It's okay for your your inexperienced shooters to trash someone who competes and runs matches but it's not okay when they get called on there BS?
Your double standard isn't promoting the shooting sports and its why all the best shooters refuse to post on your forum.
The guy who went crying to you has only shot for 4 years now and owns one gun.
I have given shooters a half dozen guns to promote shooting.
Funny how you only see one side so I guess they are paid advertisers?
You have no clue what i am talking about but you know YOU banned me for talking about tuners and structured barrels and know my name?
Its called your being very disingenuous
I never banned you, I have multiple moderators and I Have no idea what your problem is, sounds like if you were banned for talking that stuff, you crossed a line and acted like a troll, but I have no idea who you are, I just see you hit all my social media, so the name has been repeatedly seen on my accounts so I answered you, GO bitch to Erik Cortina if you want to complain about tuners
I don't even know what your account name on SH is .... don't know you, period
John Baker is having no problem talking Structured Barrels, he is posting everyday
@SHLowlight since you own the forum look in my private messages and you will see me discussing structured barrels with Jon because I understand what he is after.
I hold a BSME from Berkeley and a MSME from Ben-Gurion. If you check your statistics I was the 3rd most popular poster on your website.
A structured barrel a tensioned barrel a tuner barrel all do the same thing they move the node which is 2.5 - 3 inches back from the muzzle closer to the crown.
Picture a teeter totter and your moving the pivot point closer to one end. The seat end is still moving with the same amount of travel on one end but the other seat is moving far less thus producing less vertical.
Whenever this is being explained Rio Precision Gunwerks chimes in with how he is a big manufacturer and Lynn knows nothing.
The reality is his name is Dan Garcia and he does gun transfers in a storage shed after work from 5;30 pm to 8:00 by appointment only orders than 15 hours a week.
The next nutjob calling me Linda in Tokay444 who has only owned 2 guns in his entire life one a 6.5 Creedmoor the other a 6BR. He is from Canada and shoots at the Galt facility mostly for plinking never in a match.
Eric Cortina had Tim Sellars on his podcast and these same posters got you to delete the thread and Tim has been competing for 25 years and they combined have not one match under there belts.
Your allowing of one sided banter is killing the board as everyone now calls it Typershide.
You clearly have no clue, what was your User Name on SH and I will look at who banned you, you claimed I banned you, I am saying I have moderators who ban people where I have no idea someone was banned, what is your account name on SH @@lynndragoman2454