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Lex, thank you for this. I am excited that you tackled this topic. My husband drives for a large corporation and is now an instructor. Diving is an art that not many people realize how difficult it is and can be.
@@sergedenovo2389 yes it is. Not a great job for the body at all. I feel for all the truckers, you have to make conscious efforts to workout, eat right etc so you don't fall into bad habits on top of the psychological effects.
Very interesting topic and podcast. But also the very first guest that I clearly disagree with when it comes to his outlook on the future. The way he dismisses Teslas Semi Trucks 100% reminds me of the way people used to dismiss tesla as a whole.
Who are pounding on congress to get those jobs sleeping behind the computer box. Wouldn't that be great!!! Drop out of school at 10, sign up to wake up when Alexa says you should monitor the vehicle while it parks... Yippeee... I just got enough money to pay a half of my insurance bill!!!!
@@jeffclarke5497 I've been in trucking 40 years and I don't know anyone 'pounding' anything for this crap. You know this is top down BS because it's being done ass backward. Autonomous 80,000 trucks traveling 70 mph while fast food is still being served by humans. Only government and wealthy elites who think the working class are just a bunch of robots anyway could come up with this.
@@jeffclarke5497 Oh yeah! Soon we can all just live on our autonomous scooters and get even fatter. Fake steering wheels, horns and CBs will make it seem like we're still trucking. Just imagine it! All of us perpetual toddlers without a care in the world. Drinking Brawndo and eating Flaturin while screaming at others who's scooter cut us off.
all guests are special in this podcast, they literally can talk for hours about their professional field. You rarely hear "i don't know" here. The true professionals. I love it
I really enjoyed this conversation. I used to waitress at a truck stop in high school. That was over 40 years ago. You won't find a more caring, concerned, genuine group of people in the world in my opinion. RESPECT.
21 years old, and I drive sweeper trucks on the night shift. This episode was right up my lane. Pun intended 🤣 I'm studying to get my Class A CDL, in college, and working 50+ hour weeks. It's not easy, to say the least. Thank you both, for shining light on the industry! Trucking has saved my life countless times, by keeping food in my mouth and bills paid. Very blessed to have been apart of this industry!
100% my plan. I'm going to study psychology and APL Robotics. I just want to get out of sweeping and make a better living, until I graduate University. And always have some sort of plan. As predicted, much of the future is unpredictable. We can't be all-too-sure of any industry and their workers not having a job. Only time will tell...
Trucking always enticed me after i gave up on college for financial and time reasons. But i slowly started to change my mind because of all of the questionable schools that started popping up and the research i had done about them. I'm becoming an electrician now. I doubt that will be a job that falls to automation for a long time and it's central to society. I always wished i could finish my programming degree, though. At this point, there's no benefit to going that route. It's more a set back. I don't want college debt ever again.
@@bigcauc7530 I agree! Good luck to you! 🤞I'm not trying to be in trucking long-term. In and out by age 26 is my goal. Hence why Steve Vicelli said there's 145k CDL jobs in California, with close to half a million people eligible to drive. I feel a lot of people get into trucking as means to get to their "next level" in life. That's especially what has happened to me. And what I will continue to take advantage of. Until it's time for a pivot...
I would say as long as you have the will that you have, your future will be fine. At 21 it sounds like you do a lot more for your future than most of us...
My first day on the road alone was my birthday. I remember sitting on my bed in the cab with tears rolling down my face and my wife and 2 year old daughter hundreds of miles away. One of the most depressing days of my life.
I always think my interests are so niche, and then Lex comes over the top and humbles me by not only talking about all of them, but going into a depth far beyond what I could ever hope for. Thanks Lex
21 years as a driver. we haven't seen a true living wage since the 70's before heavy federal regulations. i have hauled fuel locally for the past 10 years. i will never live in a truck again
@@TheWilliamHoganExperience When you can drive for 12-14 hours in a day during the summer you make the money you can make. When regulations make it so you can only drive 8 hours (legally) with 4 hour breaks, you have the opportunity to deliver less loads, hence less money.
@@john_hourihan So it was a trade off between public safety, driver safety, and driver profit, and drivers got screwed eh? I wonder what role shipping corporations played when lobbying as the rules were being drawn up. Seems like they came out on top. Fresh drivers involved in fewer accidents means more efficient delivery of goods. Fewer accidents means lower insurance costs for carriers, though I'm sure independent truckers didn't see any rate reductions - insurance corporations simply reaped higher profits. The public benefited from safer roads with no increase in the costs of goods, and truckers benefited from, uh, more sleep and fewer jack-knifes and the fiery deaths that resulted. Unless they cheated on their logs. So truckers ended up subsidizing corporate profits and their own and public safety by law. I'm guessing the OP is a libertarian / government hater using this as an example of why government is bad. The way I see it, government regulation is like an AK-47: It's a tool that can be used for good or evil. It really just depends on who's aiming the dammed thing, what they are aiming it at, how many rounds are in the magazine. In America today, the governmental regulatory assualt weapons are aimed at the working class on behalf of corporate elites. These same corporations litterally don't pay taxes, so the working class funds their own oppression. So while government is A problem, it is not THE problem. Monopolistic totalitarian capitalism is THE problem, and it's hard to use a weapon that's controlled by your enemy to fight your enemy. Until control of our government is in the hands of the workers, the corporate class and super rich will continue squeezing our balls - guaranteed.
Truck drivers are the most under recognized professionals. We could not feed our families and get through this pandemic without them. Thanks you to al these people....
As a 63 year old truck driver I found this conversation utterly interesting. I envy the Next Generation that will be around to see the truck driving industry evolve. Maglev trucks? Flying trucks? Who knows...
And, with 2 million in your 401K, you're a happy camper... Oh boy. maybe that was over the top. You're on the proper track. No human will be involved in moving crap from one place to another. What do we we do with monoric children who simply can't use their brains? Welfare? Drugs subsidized by the Feds? What do you do with brain-dead spawn who will never learn their multiplication tables? Build more trailor parks and police helicopters? I'm investing in trailor skirts production!!!
@@jeffclarke5497 do some research on Crypto Bitcoin and NFTS are about to create a lot of financial freedom around the universe, the world is changing drastically, soon the education system will as well you will probably want to catch up if you haven’t.
I used to love talking to old timers at a bar. In college my buddies split because I was chatting up this old Navy dude they thought was just an old drunk. After talking for a bit, I found out that he'd served on a Subamarine during ww2 and then was a merchant marine and found a home working barges on the ohio and Miss river based out of New Orleans. Dude had some hilarious tales. Subs in ww2 were no joke either.
I cried during this discussion. It's so nice to hear people talk about whats really important for once and I happen to be a semi truck driver so it really meant a lot to me. We need heroes more now than ever before... we all need to stand up and protect our livelihoods.. we deserve a good quality of life and fun with out having to cry ourselves to sleep at night wondering if we can pay the bills or buy food or shelter..or feed our little ones. Thank you so much lex...I listen to you often and this video was a pleasant surprise. You're a hero lex.
That you didn’t wanna “jerk the wheel into a goddamned bridge embankment!” (-Chris Farley in Tommy Boy) bodes well for this podcast! I think I’ll listen to the whole thing!🙂👍🏽
Used your brain in the last 20 years? Desperately hoping for that gig where yo sleep in the back and the AI drives a truck? What sort of money do you expect for that gig?
@@jeffclarke5497 about the only time truck driving seems like work to me is when I have to install chains, but that rarely happens. It feels like a perpetual vacation most of the time. I can't imagine having to do something else for income. I've done office jobs in insurance and book publishing and mostly hated them. I'll be retiring in the next few years so autonomous vehicles aren't something I'm expecting to drive for a living.
@@ethanb2554 Sorry to hear. I got my start in the tanker division of one of those mega-megas in 1994 and left after 15 months. Truckload OTR has a few advantages over LTL, but if I'd known how good LTL is in 1994, I would have pursued it instead. I think the company I started with was in the midst of pioneering the "showing up at funerals" scheme right when I was attending their school. They went out of their way to show everyone what a nice, thoughtful company they were to do that. Steve's done great work. I read "The Big Rig" as soon as it came out. His portrayal of the industry is accurate as far as I can tell.
Hey Lex, greetings, nice podcast. Thank you for bringing someone from the logistics Industry onboard. For future podcasts,maybe someone from the container shipping industry can be invited so that viewers can understand the innerworkings of an industry so vital for the global economy and can speak of the current global supply chain crisis . Thanks
I own a semi dump truck company with my husband. We haul aggregates and are paid by the load, work long hours but we’re local so we are home every night. We’ve been very blessed.
part of me wishes to have had this interview available before i tried trucking as a carreer. the other part is very very thankful that i did it and was able to witness so many socio-cultural-economical realities, that so many other people never see and hardly are able to believe if i tell them. thanks lex thanks steve!
I believe it is as well.....it's perfect for some one living as a refugee or hostage slave situation , or some one living life with unlocked revolving doors and neverending death threats , both are still currently growing .
@@chaosdweller Making 6 figures a year and home every night with full benefits isn't that dude. If I wasn't trucking I'd be flying airplanes. The thought of being in an office all day or having to do podcast to me is a nightmare.
Thank you for all your conversations, amazing guests and spreading love. I am imigrant from Poland who came to USA over 20 years ago, for last 3 years I am driving trucks. My journey with trucks looks completely different then described by Your guest. I guess this job looks much more rewarding, easier and more fun for me. Keep up good work cause it make my 9+ hours days behind the wheel so much more enjoyable when listening your podcast.
I've worked in a couple of warehouse jobs overthe years. One of them was (I'm sure there's a word I don't know for it) a sort of cargo hub, where early in the morning, a bunch of trailers' cargo would be unloaded into the warehouse - pallets of various foods. Some was even frozen/refrigerated stuff, seafood and what have you. So, we'd be movin' quick, because it's not like ttey were about to pay to refrigerate a giant warehouse. After about an hour or so of unloading trailers, the loading process would start. If it helps the mental image of how much food was being moved around, it was roughly 30 docks, and maybe 40 guys running around with the freight. It was the first job that gave me an appreciation for the field of logistics. Anyway, during the couple hours of unloading and loading, the drivers didn't have much to do... and more often than not, they're starved for conversation and human contact. Warehouse workers are generally all familiar with the way truckers will talk your ears off if you let 'em. That's absolutely not to speak ill of the drivers. It's just indicative of some of the major problems with America and capitalism in general. Want to have food and shelter? Here, all you have to do is work so many hours you barely see home. So many hours, you start to lose it, like people do when imprisoned in solitary confinement. Like that episode of VSauce's show where he volunteers to be locked in a room, to learn about & demonstrate the experience of solitary confinement. It's messed up, the way we let the wealth owners mistreat our working class. 8:32 - In the word "spigot," I believe the "k" is silent.
I'm one of the "regular folks", I'm a crane operator at a steel mill. I find myself watching your podcast, Joe Rogan and Breaking Points on long shifts. Keep up the great work, your one of the best interviewer and have a really peaceful voice.
Thank you so much Lex for what you do! You are one of the most unique gems on the internet. Steve was a great guest, one in the Pantheon of dynamic people that you bring to us.
Lex, This is one of the most incredible interviews you have done yet. This guest is an incredible researcher, and I love that you are showcasing parts of this country that are forgotten. Also, you are one of the most prolific interviewers of our time. Thank you good sir!!
Induction coils embedded in the road to charge vehicles on the go makes even more sense for trucks than it does for cars. The smaller battery packs which would be required equates to less weight which equates to even smaller battery packs required. Power the induction coils with renewable sources and you've got a win win win.
The highway departments can’t even keep up with the potholes we have now, and none of that federal “infrastructure bill” funding will ever make it to the actual infrastructure like the roads and tens of thousands of bridges that are getting worse every year. Only 18% of the bill is for actual infrastructure (and much of that isn’t just for roads and bridges), and look up what happened the last time one of these massive federal infrastructure bills was passed for “shovel-ready” projects. Local/state money generally has to match federal funding, even for interstates, and in the years it takes for that to happen, the federal money will be at risk of expiring, and is then wasted on pork barrel vote-buying. BTW, in-road inductive charging at highway speeds is a fantasy because the coils have to be within millimeters/fractions-of-an-inch for extended periods of time. Where have you ever driven where the road was flat/straight/level enough for that to happen? That’s why vehicles have suspensions, and the amount of vertical travel is easily tens-to-hundreds-of-millimeters/several-inches on typical roads. Solar and wind won’t be able to meet demand for base-load electrical power needs for many decades, and will require massive amounts of expensive battery storage for nights and bad weather. Then there’s distribution system upgrades needed to get power from where it’s being generated to where it’s needed (which are never in the same places). Adding highway power demands on top of current electricity usage means incredibly high additional expense beyond what’s even dreamed of in the completely impractical Green New Deal. It’s lose, lose, lose, lose, lose, lose …
So for years and years I’ve jumped around, from city to city, job to job, school to school, culture to culture, clique to clique. I’ve always loved studying and understanding how different groups works, live and associate with each other. Always had an interest in sociology but never wanted to be a sociologist. I didn’t know that there was a career path that embodied what I have basically done on my own my whole life. Ethnography. Wow. This guest has inspired me to atleast look into this as a career path further. Wow.
I have had a similar life. Maybe you're right about the possible new career path. For me personally I think I lack and therefore crave responsibility, which would then force me to stay still and accept more. Best of luck to you
Lex, you’re just full of surprises! I loved, loved, loved this conversation! Thank you for being your awesome self and having these fascinating guests on the podcast. We love you! ❤️
I work at a paper mill in Wisconsin as a loading boss and listening to this was so interesting as I never considered what happens when the trailer leaves our docks lol. Thanks Lex and Steve!
I didn't hear him mention the big problem truckers face every day trying to find a parking place,due to over crowded truck stops and closed rest areas.The infrastructure has not kept upwith the pace of
Thank you so much for this conversation Lex. I'm a trucker from the UK having just completed my first 3 years, this conversation was great to listen to. There is currently a truck driver shortage in the UK!
This was one of my all time favorite podcast since the Lex Epoch began. Great work Lex and Steve you very listenable as a podcast guest! Super interesting - wish this could have gone on for 5 hours.
I'm I trucker. There's not a single driver I know that double clutches. We generally only use the clutch when we come to a complete stop. We rpm match the engine and transmission without clutching.
This is so informative. I have a friend who got into trucking half a decade back, and since then, whenever I would see him the few times a year to catch up, the industry has gone through such change. Now thankfully he has a gig for a local food warehouse where he is delivering 4-5 days a week with a few days off and still can sleep in his own bed, but he had to take a pay cut for that. But the way he explained it to me is it’s not really a pay cut, when you think about the wasted time and experiences he was removed from, and it’s not like he was a millionaire either. Know what your time is worth.
Damn, does Lex ever do a clinker? I’ve passed this one up for a while, thinking Truck Driver? Is he running out of ideas? Then it’s one of my favorite episodes ever. At least until the next one. Much love and admiration for you both.
Lex this is a great topic!!! I am not a truck driver but I have worked my entire career in the autobody and collision repair industry, and the way we get paid and treated is dang near the same. This is blowing my mind how similar this is🤯. I'm really digging your podcasts!! Thank you
I'm a company long haul trucker who started at 61 and now I'm still going at 72. I could retire but I don't want to. might agree with 25% of this guy's opinions on the experience and for the most part welcome my time on the road across the US; which is still a wonderful, diverse and exciting place to be. Everyone has a different view and the experience is much more subjective than objective; depending on where you're interests and priorities lay. I like myself and I enjoy the isolation and almost absolute control of my immediate environment.
Mr. Fridman, I'm so glad you've had this gentlemen on. We need to look into the various problems in this industry that hasn't paid attention or paid proper wages to us. I love it, but the job definitely isn't easy. We go through every kind of weather and every kind of situation imaginable, home and otherwise. But, you'll never see more of the beauty and vastness of the world, unless you're out there.
I come from the marine shipping world and I love trucks on land, loved this podcast. Although I do disagree with a lot of the topic. Fellow undervalued blue collar worker checking in. I'm proud and have met many many clever, street smart, old buggers out there.
In the beginning of this convo it's funny to me how they both seemed surprise how chatty truckers are. Most truckers are small town folks, and the average small town American will talk your ear off over anything lol. They're extremely friendly.
It took me working in marketing at a trucking software company for a few years starting in 2016 to fully understand and respect and HONOUR what these drivers do. Not to mention that there are no spaces for them to pull over and have a safe place to sleep. It’s true that our supermarket shelves would be - and are - bare when these drivers cannot get to their destinations. Great podcast, thank you.
Boy you guys not understanding you would really be surprised what kind of people are out here in these trucks the stories and how they got into Trucking some of us can write books about all we've been through
I drove truck for 12 years and retired with a clean record. I don't miss it but I enjoyed the first 10 years. I found it fun to operate a rig with different types of cargo. I love racing cars and the completely opposite world of large machinery. Doing either one well requires disipline. It's satisfying. Pay sucks for the time you put in though (For the Majority)
Wow I'm really glad that you addressed the "regular folk" comment. I made a comment about that a while ago and I'm not saying that you are responding directly but it is nice to know that you took it to heart and want to understand the recommendation. "Regular folk" have a lot to say and we are the backbone of any society and country. Its extremely important that people feel heard and respected and valued as a whole instead of this representative type of society that we have today. Our "representatives" are being exposed all the time as being corrupt and immoral and people are beginning to realize that they need to represent themselves. The heart of the people is always, and will always be, with the people. If you want to truly understand a person or situation there is no better substitute than for you to immerse yourself into that person's world and spend time to truly get to know them. Thats a big reason why these long format podcasts are so successful. It's interesting and enlightening to hear in depth, non scripted conversations. It's inspiring to see you grow and learn as a Podcaster and human being. Right on brother.
As a truck driver for 20 years in the third generation in the family , We listen to you Lex. I personally have an addiction to learning and there's no better profession to learn 24/7 through podcast so thanks for your contribution to that Go to a truck show sometime for a unique perspective on the industry
Excellent....I like the direction your taking...adding different people with different walks of life and/or trades...I do auto body and paint. Been in my trade for over a decade....I remember your 1st time on rogan and have enjoyed your podcast since day one....watched your intros to the ones under the 1st 20 or so cast. You are improving at a steep incline....so glad you took a risk and giving the people some highly informative entertainment.
Fantastic episode Lex. Keep up the good work. Nice to see diverse and genuine conversation. A fascinating exploration into the world of trucking and autonomous vehicles. Interesting to hear the human and social side of these technologies.
It’s eventually those unforeseen inventions that shape the future in a positive way. We are going to need amazing innovation to survive our human nature.
20 years ago I was a warehouse monkey and watch California implement regulation after regulation on the trucking industry. Overtime, independent drivers were simply forced out of the business or forced into driving for conglomerate trucking firms. We are now living the ramifications of those bureaucratic edicts issued years ago.
My dad and grandfather were both long haul truck drivers. 6 months doesn't make you a trucker, boyo. Working for 6 months in a trade to see how to automate it is generally called 'conning' or 'appropriation'. I was really excited about this podcast until I listened for 2 minutes and realized this guy was not a trucker. Trucking was an experiment for him; not a lifestyle.
Truck driving sometimes is psychological, its a matter of guiding other regular drivers to not do something that would impede you... this is mostly in the city though
It's said joe is a great interviewer. I argue he is a great conversationalist. I feel you conduct a better interview. I love you both. I am grateful that you allow us to hear from those we might never cross paths with.
Self driving trucks are a looooong way away, especially if they're electric. We simply cannot get the same energy density from a pound of battery compared to a pound of diesel fuel. We're going to have to come up with some pretty revolutionary technology to do all this and it won't be overnight, it will take many decades.
Thank you truckers! Not only this podcast with Lex and this gentleman....but what we have learned the last 6 months regarding the power and importance that the trucking industry has to the entire world! Canada!!! Wow, Canadian Truckers will go down as straight up bad ass mf, and rightfully so! Anywho....those of us God fearing, imperfect, red blooded Americans appreciate more than ever, our men and women behind the big wheel! God Bless you all and stay safe out there yall!! Over and out....
Truckers carry the weight of the entire industry/supply chain, and drive on a tightrope constantly. If there’s a problem whatsoever, accident, delay, a new regulation to be imposed etc. the 1st look is at the trucker. So easy to rob a self driving truck when it will stop at any obstacle. That’s going to be fun to watch... they’ll fin a way to blame and tax a trucker
Probably the best podcast episode in existence about affects of technology on livelihood of truck drivers. You should probably have him Andrew Yang, Joe Rogan and yourself in the same room and have a super podcast. Wow a revelation.
Lockdowns like they were done, which were not necessary, has destroying or disrupted important stuff … once again, governments & politicians, who do nothin well, notably not identifying or understanding the unintended consequences of decisions, created these problems with their forced mandated lockdowns.
I also really enjoyed this podcast. He was a very polite, well-spoken, and intelligent gentleman. Another thing I really appreciate it was that he spoke so clearly. (Which made it wonderful for me being able to hear everything) what I really enjoyed is that he has a very similar outlook to my own. (On just about everything talked about) but he's doing something and wants something more from the future then what is currently being put on the table. (I personally want a lot more and that's the problem nothing getting done it builds up and that's how it would become the archaic society that we still are in my opinion) anyways thank you both very much and God Bless you for doing that work it's more important than you even realize.
Was just playing an online golf game with a truck driver and recommended this podcast to him. I am listening again because it is such a good discussion that is so much more than just trucking. Needed the 1.25 reminder mostly because of Lex. lol
I started truck driving 4 years ago, Ive made the best money of my life, easiest job ive ever had, I did asphalt most my life I dont get why all these "veterans" say its so hard
got a friend who's a truck driver and he says the same thing. it seems like the crowd that likes to call others weak are the weak ones. also, in other news: water is a liquid, cocaine is bad for you and most people are hypocrites.
Hey Lex, I honestly don't feel that you'll read this but I'm going to write it as if you would and hope the message finds your heart. After listening,now, to over 100 hours of your videos with several favorite UA-cam celebrities such as Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan, I can say your closing questions are always amazing... and, also, just a bit off the mark of hitting a home run (in my eyes). Being a 13 year Marine vet. and now serving in the Army National Guard with 47 years of life under my belt, I've earned the wisdom to know humans are happiest in the pursuit of happiness. Now, it sounds incredibly simple but, hear what I'm actually saying, "in the PURSUIT... of happiness." Humans are very peculiar this way because we aren't as happy when we achieve the goal as much as we are while pursuing it. That was a crazy revelation for me because I always thought we all pursued something to get it; But, that's not the case. Think of everything you achieve. Now, think of what you IMMEDIATELY do after you achieve it... YOU PURSUE THE NEXT GOAL! The reason I bring this up is because your questions for your guests, while beautifully thought provoking and insightful, miss the mark of driving home the winning message of love you are so fond of. And what I mean by missing the mark is, you bring their entire thought process to the finality of what happiness they'll feel when they achieve (key word there) their goals... instead of asking what goals are they looking to pursue next! By wrapping the interview up with a message of pursuit, you immediately get them into the realm of happiness that will honestly portray your truest desires to spread love with these conversations. And, PLEASE-please-please, don't take what I'm saying as a correction to what you're doing... you are obviously doing a phenomenal job with your platform! All I'm trying to convey is, (in my opinion only), just like how Elon Musk's mind works, your happiness will be achieved by spurring others to PURSUE goals, instead of achieving them. Brett Johnson took the rough road to figure this out, but he finally got it before the it was too late. You are much younger than us and far smarter... I believe you will see the target I'm pointing at, instead of the one you like to shoot at. I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL and everything you stand for! God bless, stay safe, Semper Fidelis, and Live Free or Die! 😉👍
Technology is unfortunately what destroyed trucking at least here in EU, GPS trackers cause forcing nearly impossible deadlines, and corpos trying to squeeze everything out of the drivers and the warehousing staff , and ultimately it will kill trucking with the autonomous trucks, most blue collar jobs will shrink to the mindbogglingly boring factory line jobs supporting the machines doing everything, I'm really wondering where it all leads, will we all have tubes showed up our bodies doing nothing but consuming machine made crap? Unless we will finally focus on exploring space the future looks very grim.
With the variety of intelligent guests Lex has its really cool to see him spend so much time on, for a lack of a better phrase, real world issues. Very impressed 👏👏👏
Hi Lex What a fascinating conversation it goes so much deeper than trucking, I would be great if you could connect with the Amish community to see why they have so much distrust in technology.
I could have "studied" welding. Wish I had. Could made the same wages as I have after years of physics and engineering. Wish I could have played tight end where the real money is. Until we face a real human struggle, we'll keep handing money to idiots and pop stars.
@@leme3082 I can't ! I told the truth after being punished for lying even though I was originally ordered to lie ...., and then the other 2 welding jobs didn't work out , cause of my overactive sweat glands that kept me from seeing cause I fog lenses and glasses everything up lmao!
Wow! That's similar to what I'm always talking about , except it's just in reverse order , this is the first comment Ive actually answered to seriously probably cause I'm always saying it , (just in reverse order) lol!
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0:44 - Ethnography
12:57 - Challenges of driving a truck
31:36 - Trucking industry: State of affairs
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1:30:57 - Solving the automated truck dilemma
2:02:52 - Role of society in automated trucking
2:30:01 - Tesla and revolutionizing the trucking industry
2:49:41 - Hope and final thoughts
Lex, thank you for this. I am excited that you tackled this topic. My husband drives for a large corporation and is now an instructor. Diving is an art that not many people realize how difficult it is and can be.
Lex lays out the groundwork for in depth conversations, whatever the topic, and allows them to flow so enjoyably well.
@@sergedenovo2389 yes it is. Not a great job for the body at all. I feel for all the truckers, you have to make conscious efforts to workout, eat right etc so you don't fall into bad habits on top of the psychological effects.
Lex I hope to the trucking Gods that you watched "Smokey and the Bandit" while researching this guest! Please let me know.
Very interesting topic and podcast.
But also the very first guest that I clearly disagree with when it comes to his outlook on the future.
The way he dismisses Teslas Semi Trucks 100% reminds me of the way people used to dismiss tesla as a whole.
Thank you to all the truckers out there!💯 🚛
Who are pounding on congress to get those jobs sleeping behind the computer box. Wouldn't that be great!!! Drop out of school at 10, sign up to wake up when Alexa says you should monitor the vehicle while it parks... Yippeee... I just got enough money to pay a half of my insurance bill!!!!
@Jeff Clarke wouldn't that be something
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I've been in trucking 40 years and I don't know anyone 'pounding' anything for this crap. You know this is top down BS because it's being done ass backward. Autonomous 80,000 trucks traveling 70 mph while fast food is still being served by humans. Only government and wealthy elites who think the working class are just a bunch of robots anyway could come up with this.
@@tonyrmathis Well, at least the food is being delivered by autonomous vehicles. Isn't it great!!!?
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Oh yeah! Soon we can all just live on our autonomous scooters and get even fatter. Fake steering wheels, horns and CBs will make it seem like we're still trucking.
Just imagine it! All of us perpetual toddlers without a care in the world. Drinking Brawndo and eating Flaturin while screaming at others who's scooter cut us off.
This is one of those guests that makes this pod special.
all guests are special in this podcast, they literally can talk for hours about their professional field. You rarely hear "i don't know" here. The true professionals. I love it
Excellent conversation.
Absolutely
I agree. This one was far-reaching
Couldn’t agree more. This podcast is getting a great variety of guests.
I really enjoyed this conversation. I used to waitress at a truck stop in high school. That was over 40 years ago. You won't find a more caring, concerned, genuine group of people in the world in my opinion. RESPECT.
That’s how it used to be. Not anymore.
21 years old, and I drive sweeper trucks on the night shift. This episode was right up my lane. Pun intended 🤣 I'm studying to get my Class A CDL, in college, and working 50+ hour weeks. It's not easy, to say the least. Thank you both, for shining light on the industry! Trucking has saved my life countless times, by keeping food in my mouth and bills paid. Very blessed to have been apart of this industry!
Get some sort of education, because your future is really bleak.
100% my plan. I'm going to study psychology and APL Robotics. I just want to get out of sweeping and make a better living, until I graduate University. And always have some sort of plan. As predicted, much of the future is unpredictable. We can't be all-too-sure of any industry and their workers not having a job. Only time will tell...
Trucking always enticed me after i gave up on college for financial and time reasons. But i slowly started to change my mind because of all of the questionable schools that started popping up and the research i had done about them. I'm becoming an electrician now. I doubt that will be a job that falls to automation for a long time and it's central to society. I always wished i could finish my programming degree, though. At this point, there's no benefit to going that route. It's more a set back. I don't want college debt ever again.
@@bigcauc7530 I agree! Good luck to you! 🤞I'm not trying to be in trucking long-term. In and out by age 26 is my goal. Hence why Steve Vicelli said there's 145k CDL jobs in California, with close to half a million people eligible to drive. I feel a lot of people get into trucking as means to get to their "next level" in life. That's especially what has happened to me. And what I will continue to take advantage of. Until it's time for a pivot...
I would say as long as you have the will that you have, your future will be fine. At 21 it sounds like you do a lot more for your future than most of us...
My first day on the road alone was my birthday. I remember sitting on my bed in the cab with tears rolling down my face and my wife and 2 year old daughter hundreds of miles away. One of the most depressing days of my life.
People consider their birthday like its a national holiday......I never got that
I always think my interests are so niche, and then Lex comes over the top and humbles me by not only talking about all of them, but going into a depth far beyond what I could ever hope for. Thanks Lex
21 years as a driver. we haven't seen a true living wage since the 70's before heavy federal regulations. i have hauled fuel locally for the past 10 years. i will never live in a truck again
Federal regulations? How did that drive down wages?
what was the pay like back then? Because I have friends in trucking that make anywhere from 1000 to 2000 a week
@@TheWilliamHoganExperience When you can drive for 12-14 hours in a day during the summer you make the money you can make. When regulations make it so you can only drive 8 hours (legally) with 4 hour breaks, you have the opportunity to deliver less loads, hence less money.
@@KlvnDxxminique See how long that lasts. Everyone has these stories.. for a time. It comes and it goes.
@@john_hourihan So it was a trade off between public safety, driver safety, and driver profit, and drivers got screwed eh?
I wonder what role shipping corporations played when lobbying as the rules were being drawn up. Seems like they came out on top. Fresh drivers involved in fewer accidents means more efficient delivery of goods. Fewer accidents means lower insurance costs for carriers, though I'm sure independent truckers didn't see any rate reductions - insurance corporations simply reaped higher profits. The public benefited from safer roads with no increase in the costs of goods, and truckers benefited from, uh, more sleep and fewer jack-knifes and the fiery deaths that resulted. Unless they cheated on their logs. So truckers ended up subsidizing corporate profits and their own and public safety by law. I'm guessing the OP is a libertarian / government hater using this as an example of why government is bad. The way I see it, government regulation is like an AK-47: It's a tool that can be used for good or evil. It really just depends on who's aiming the dammed thing, what they are aiming it at, how many rounds are in the magazine. In America today, the governmental regulatory assualt weapons are aimed at the working class on behalf of corporate elites. These same corporations litterally don't pay taxes, so the working class funds their own oppression.
So while government is A problem, it is not THE problem. Monopolistic totalitarian capitalism is THE problem, and it's hard to use a weapon that's controlled by your enemy to fight your enemy. Until control of our government is in the hands of the workers, the corporate class and super rich will continue squeezing our balls - guaranteed.
Truck drivers are the most under recognized professionals. We could not feed our families and get through this pandemic without them. Thanks you to al these people....
As a 63 year old truck driver I found this conversation utterly interesting. I envy the Next Generation that will be around to see the truck driving industry evolve. Maglev trucks? Flying trucks? Who knows...
And, with 2 million in your 401K, you're a happy camper... Oh boy. maybe that was over the top. You're on the proper track. No human will be involved in moving crap from one place to another. What do we we do with monoric children who simply can't use their brains? Welfare? Drugs subsidized by the Feds? What do you do with brain-dead spawn who will never learn their multiplication tables? Build more trailor parks and police helicopters? I'm investing in trailor skirts production!!!
@@jeffclarke5497 do some research on Crypto Bitcoin and NFTS are about to create a lot of financial freedom around the universe, the world is changing drastically, soon the education system will as well you will probably want to catch up if you haven’t.
I'm not sure if I should look forward to the future or get an exit strategy ready. I'm a 35 yr old LTL driver.
I used to love talking to old timers at a bar. In college my buddies split because I was chatting up this old Navy dude they thought was just an old drunk. After talking for a bit, I found out that he'd served on a Subamarine during ww2 and then was a merchant marine and found a home working barges on the ohio and Miss river based out of New Orleans. Dude had some hilarious tales. Subs in ww2 were no joke either.
Props to you for having that respect. Our elders have a lot they want to pass on, if only we would listen
Lex this choice was 💯. We need thought generated in this realm. You are indeed a force in this world.
Extremely well worded!!
I cried during this discussion. It's so nice to hear people talk about whats really important for once and I happen to be a semi truck driver so it really meant a lot to me. We need heroes more now than ever before... we all need to stand up and protect our livelihoods.. we deserve a good quality of life and fun with out having to cry ourselves to sleep at night wondering if we can pay the bills or buy food or shelter..or feed our little ones. Thank you so much lex...I listen to you often and this video was a pleasant surprise. You're a hero lex.
Thank you Lex for having 'regular' and VERY interesting guests on your show! I SUPER enjoyed this episode!!!
I have a special respect for CDLs. one of the most challenging and thankless jobs it seems like
Listened to this entire podcast behind the wheel of an 18-wheeler and loved every minute of it!
That you didn’t wanna “jerk the wheel into a goddamned bridge embankment!” (-Chris Farley in Tommy Boy) bodes well for this podcast! I think I’ll listen to the whole thing!🙂👍🏽
Used your brain in the last 20 years? Desperately hoping for that gig where yo sleep in the back and the AI drives a truck? What sort of money do you expect for that gig?
@@jeffclarke5497 about the only time truck driving seems like work to me is when I have to install chains, but that rarely happens. It feels like a perpetual vacation most of the time. I can't imagine having to do something else for income. I've done office jobs in insurance and book publishing and mostly hated them. I'll be retiring in the next few years so autonomous vehicles aren't something I'm expecting to drive for a living.
Very appropriate, indeed.
@@ethanb2554 Sorry to hear. I got my start in the tanker division of one of those mega-megas in 1994 and left after 15 months. Truckload OTR has a few advantages over LTL, but if I'd known how good LTL is in 1994, I would have pursued it instead. I think the company I started with was in the midst of pioneering the "showing up at funerals" scheme right when I was attending their school. They went out of their way to show everyone what a nice, thoughtful company they were to do that. Steve's done great work. I read "The Big Rig" as soon as it came out. His portrayal of the industry is accurate as far as I can tell.
Lex, this is one of my favorite interviews you've had. It's fascinating to see how the world works and how it doesn't.
Hey Lex, greetings, nice podcast. Thank you for bringing someone from the logistics Industry onboard. For future podcasts,maybe someone from the container shipping industry can be invited so that viewers can understand the innerworkings of an industry so vital for the global economy and can speak of the current global supply chain crisis . Thanks
I’ve worked 20 years in the transportation industry and the depth of knowledge you’ve acquired is beyond humbling. What a great interview.
I own a semi dump truck company with my husband. We haul aggregates and are paid by the load, work long hours but we’re local so we are home every night. We’ve been very blessed.
Are you flinging gravel all over the highway? My F'ing windshield!!
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@@johndoe9207 you must be such a pleasure to converse with.. 🙄
@@goldfishi5776 as opposed to you? Who clearly cant tell when someone is making a harmless joke?
Congratulations and keep being grateful.
part of me wishes to have had this interview available before i tried trucking as a carreer. the other part is very very thankful that i did it and was able to witness so many socio-cultural-economical realities, that so many other people never see and hardly are able to believe if i tell them. thanks lex thanks steve!
When he said, "This job is a last option". I felt that. Thanks for keeping us truckers entertained with this podcast. This is a great one. 🙏
I believe it is as well.....it's perfect for some one living as a refugee or hostage slave situation , or some one living life with unlocked revolving doors and neverending death threats , both are still currently growing .
@@chaosdweller Making 6 figures a year and home every night with full benefits isn't that dude.
If I wasn't trucking I'd be flying airplanes.
The thought of being in an office all day or having to do podcast to me is a nightmare.
Thank you for all your conversations, amazing guests and spreading love. I am imigrant from Poland who came to USA over 20 years ago, for last 3 years I am driving trucks. My journey with trucks looks completely different then described by Your guest. I guess this job looks much more rewarding, easier and more fun for me. Keep up good work cause it make my 9+ hours days behind the wheel so much more enjoyable when listening your podcast.
I've worked in a couple of warehouse jobs overthe years. One of them was (I'm sure there's a word I don't know for it) a sort of cargo hub, where early in the morning, a bunch of trailers' cargo would be unloaded into the warehouse - pallets of various foods. Some was even frozen/refrigerated stuff, seafood and what have you. So, we'd be movin' quick, because it's not like ttey were about to pay to refrigerate a giant warehouse. After about an hour or so of unloading trailers, the loading process would start. If it helps the mental image of how much food was being moved around, it was roughly 30 docks, and maybe 40 guys running around with the freight. It was the first job that gave me an appreciation for the field of logistics.
Anyway, during the couple hours of unloading and loading, the drivers didn't have much to do... and more often than not, they're starved for conversation and human contact. Warehouse workers are generally all familiar with the way truckers will talk your ears off if you let 'em. That's absolutely not to speak ill of the drivers. It's just indicative of some of the major problems with America and capitalism in general. Want to have food and shelter? Here, all you have to do is work so many hours you barely see home. So many hours, you start to lose it, like people do when imprisoned in solitary confinement. Like that episode of VSauce's show where he volunteers to be locked in a room, to learn about & demonstrate the experience of solitary confinement.
It's messed up, the way we let the wealth owners mistreat our working class.
8:32 - In the word "spigot," I believe the "k" is silent.
I'm one of the "regular folks", I'm a crane operator at a steel mill. I find myself watching your podcast, Joe Rogan and Breaking Points on long shifts. Keep up the great work, your one of the best interviewer and have a really peaceful voice.
Thank you so much Lex for what you do! You are one of the most unique gems on the internet. Steve was a great guest, one in the Pantheon of dynamic people that you bring to us.
Lex, This is one of the most incredible interviews you have done yet. This guest is an incredible researcher, and I love that you are showcasing parts of this country that are forgotten. Also, you are one of the most prolific interviewers of our time. Thank you good sir!!
Induction coils embedded in the road to charge vehicles on the go makes even more sense for trucks than it does for cars. The smaller battery packs which would be required equates to less weight which equates to even smaller battery packs required. Power the induction coils with renewable sources and you've got a win win win.
The highway departments can’t even keep up with the potholes we have now, and none of that federal “infrastructure bill” funding will ever make it to the actual infrastructure like the roads and tens of thousands of bridges that are getting worse every year. Only 18% of the bill is for actual infrastructure (and much of that isn’t just for roads and bridges), and look up what happened the last time one of these massive federal infrastructure bills was passed for “shovel-ready” projects. Local/state money generally has to match federal funding, even for interstates, and in the years it takes for that to happen, the federal money will be at risk of expiring, and is then wasted on pork barrel vote-buying.
BTW, in-road inductive charging at highway speeds is a fantasy because the coils have to be within millimeters/fractions-of-an-inch for extended periods of time. Where have you ever driven where the road was flat/straight/level enough for that to happen? That’s why vehicles have suspensions, and the amount of vertical travel is easily tens-to-hundreds-of-millimeters/several-inches on typical roads.
Solar and wind won’t be able to meet demand for base-load electrical power needs for many decades, and will require massive amounts of expensive battery storage for nights and bad weather. Then there’s distribution system upgrades needed to get power from where it’s being generated to where it’s needed (which are never in the same places). Adding highway power demands on top of current electricity usage means incredibly high additional expense beyond what’s even dreamed of in the completely impractical Green New Deal.
It’s lose, lose, lose, lose, lose, lose …
So for years and years I’ve jumped around, from city to city, job to job, school to school, culture to culture, clique to clique. I’ve always loved studying and understanding how different groups works, live and associate with each other. Always had an interest in sociology but never wanted to be a sociologist. I didn’t know that there was a career path that embodied what I have basically done on my own my whole life. Ethnography. Wow. This guest has inspired me to atleast look into this as a career path further. Wow.
I have had a similar life. Maybe you're right about the possible new career path.
For me personally I think I lack and therefore crave responsibility, which would then force me to stay still and accept more.
Best of luck to you
Lex, you’re just full of surprises! I loved, loved, loved this conversation! Thank you for being your awesome self and having these fascinating guests on the podcast. We love you! ❤️
Great podcast. I was surprised I watched it in it's entirety, and really enjoyed it.
Great job j
I work at a paper mill in Wisconsin as a loading boss and listening to this was so interesting as I never considered what happens when the trailer leaves our docks lol. Thanks Lex and Steve!
Keep everything running fast to make it easier for the drivers :)
The variety in your interviews is so friggin' extensive, you rock Lex!
Thanks to all the truck drivers out there!
Currently at work driving a tanker around the Chicagoland area while listening. Love the podcast. Keep up the great work.
I didn't hear him mention the big problem truckers face every day trying to find a parking place,due to over crowded truck stops and closed rest areas.The infrastructure has not kept upwith the pace of
Thank you so much for this conversation Lex. I'm a trucker from the UK having just completed my first 3 years, this conversation was great to listen to. There is currently a truck driver shortage in the UK!
I loved this! I’m a complete outsider to truckers and robots so I feel so lucky to have privilege to hear these insights.
As a young truck driver.... Thank you for this interview.
This was one of my all time favorite podcast since the Lex Epoch began. Great work Lex and Steve you very listenable as a podcast guest! Super interesting - wish this could have gone on for 5 hours.
I'm I trucker. There's not a single driver I know that double clutches. We generally only use the clutch when we come to a complete stop. We rpm match the engine and transmission without clutching.
This is the way
Years ago, double clutching was being taught. Today’s newer trucks are mostly automatics.
Watched this with a whole new meaning after the Ottawa protests . Hope the truckers in the US won’t be labelled or treated in a similar way .
Two genuinely beautiful and intelligent humans having a great conversation. Killing it as always, thanks Lex!
This is so informative.
I have a friend who got into trucking half a decade back, and since then, whenever I would see him the few times a year to catch up, the industry has gone through such change.
Now thankfully he has a gig for a local food warehouse where he is delivering 4-5 days a week with a few days off and still can sleep in his own bed, but he had to take a pay cut for that.
But the way he explained it to me is it’s not really a pay cut, when you think about the wasted time and experiences he was removed from, and it’s not like he was a millionaire either.
Know what your time is worth.
Damn, does Lex ever do a clinker? I’ve passed this one up for a while, thinking Truck Driver? Is he running out of ideas?
Then it’s one of my favorite episodes ever. At least until the next one.
Much love and admiration for you both.
Lex this is a great topic!!! I am not a truck driver but I have worked my entire career in the autobody and collision repair industry, and the way we get paid and treated is dang near the same. This is blowing my mind how similar this is🤯.
I'm really digging your podcasts!! Thank you
I'm a company long haul trucker who started at 61 and now I'm still going at 72. I could retire but I don't want to. might agree with 25% of this guy's opinions on the experience and for the most part welcome my time on the road across the US; which is still a wonderful, diverse and exciting place to be. Everyone has a different view and the experience is much more subjective than objective; depending on where you're interests and priorities lay. I like myself and I enjoy the isolation and almost absolute control of my immediate environment.
Mr. Fridman, I'm so glad you've had this gentlemen on. We need to look into the various problems in this industry that hasn't paid attention or paid proper wages to us. I love it, but the job definitely isn't easy. We go through every kind of weather and every kind of situation imaginable, home and otherwise. But, you'll never see more of the beauty and vastness of the world, unless you're out there.
I come from the marine shipping world and I love trucks on land, loved this podcast. Although I do disagree with a lot of the topic.
Fellow undervalued blue collar worker checking in. I'm proud and have met many many clever, street smart, old buggers out there.
Very eloquent comprehensive summation.
In the beginning of this convo it's funny to me how they both seemed surprise how chatty truckers are. Most truckers are small town folks, and the average small town American will talk your ear off over anything lol. They're extremely friendly.
Lex is such a great host. Always enjoy his podcast
It took me working in marketing at a trucking software company for a few years starting in 2016 to fully understand and respect and HONOUR what these drivers do. Not to mention that there are no spaces for them to pull over and have a safe place to sleep. It’s true that our supermarket shelves would be - and are - bare when these drivers cannot get to their destinations. Great podcast, thank you.
Boy you guys not understanding you would really be surprised what kind of people are out here in these trucks the stories and how they got into Trucking some of us can write books about all we've been through
I drove truck for 12 years and retired with a clean record. I don't miss it but I enjoyed the first 10 years. I found it fun to operate a rig with different types of cargo. I love racing cars and the completely opposite world of large machinery. Doing either one well requires disipline. It's satisfying. Pay sucks for the time you put in though (For the Majority)
I worked at my friend's 3PL for a year and learned first hand the issues facing the freight industry. Super excited to hear this. Thanks Lex!
Wow I'm really glad that you addressed the "regular folk" comment. I made a comment about that a while ago and I'm not saying that you are responding directly but it is nice to know that you took it to heart and want to understand the recommendation. "Regular folk" have a lot to say and we are the backbone of any society and country. Its extremely important that people feel heard and respected and valued as a whole instead of this representative type of society that we have today. Our "representatives" are being exposed all the time as being corrupt and immoral and people are beginning to realize that they need to represent themselves. The heart of the people is always, and will always be, with the people. If you want to truly understand a person or situation there is no better substitute than for you to immerse yourself into that person's world and spend time to truly get to know them. Thats a big reason why these long format podcasts are so successful. It's interesting and enlightening to hear in depth, non scripted conversations. It's inspiring to see you grow and learn as a Podcaster and human being. Right on brother.
I'm trucking...listening to trucking.
Lol , ....a man with actual freedom , living in America ? ...wow! .....u did it 👍.
As a truck driver for 20 years in the third generation in the family , We listen to you Lex. I personally have an addiction to learning and there's no better profession to learn 24/7 through podcast so thanks for your contribution to that
Go to a truck show sometime for a unique perspective on the industry
Excellent....I like the direction your taking...adding different people with different walks of life and/or trades...I do auto body and paint. Been in my trade for over a decade....I remember your 1st time on rogan and have enjoyed your podcast since day one....watched your intros to the ones under the 1st 20 or so cast. You are improving at a steep incline....so glad you took a risk and giving the people some highly informative entertainment.
The ending quote gives me hope: if you cannot do great things, do small things in a great way. Thank you Lex.
Fantastic episode Lex. Keep up the good work. Nice to see diverse and genuine conversation. A fascinating exploration into the world of trucking and autonomous vehicles. Interesting to hear the human and social side of these technologies.
It’s eventually those unforeseen inventions that shape the future in a positive way. We are going to need amazing innovation to survive our human nature.
20 years ago I was a warehouse monkey and watch California implement regulation after regulation on the trucking industry. Overtime, independent drivers were simply forced out of the business or forced into driving for conglomerate trucking firms. We are now living the ramifications of those bureaucratic edicts issued years ago.
I wish there were tons and tons of people like Steve Viscelli
so many people are going to have no real purpose in life…… And they will become very destructive
Trucking is definitely a skill . The number of people that fail their trucking lisence is testament to that.
As someone who works in the trucking industry as a dispatcher this guy is spot on
My dad and grandfather were both long haul truck drivers. 6 months doesn't make you a trucker, boyo. Working for 6 months in a trade to see how to automate it is generally called 'conning' or 'appropriation'. I was really excited about this podcast until I listened for 2 minutes and realized this guy was not a trucker. Trucking was an experiment for him; not a lifestyle.
This episode is truly a hidden gem
LEX IS A MAN OF THE PEOPLE!
Amazing job on this one lex 👍
This is why I love Lex Fridman.
I really appreciated this one. Thank you!
Got my CDL 6 months ago, searched up lex fridman trucking so glad you had something on this!
Truck driving sometimes is psychological, its a matter of guiding other regular drivers to not do something that would impede you... this is mostly in the city though
It's said joe is a great interviewer. I argue he is a great conversationalist. I feel you conduct a better interview. I love you both. I am grateful that you allow us to hear from those we might never cross paths with.
Love to the truck drivers. Now just bring a invoice number when you arrive or don't ask to get loaded.
Self driving trucks are a looooong way away, especially if they're electric. We simply cannot get the same energy density from a pound of battery compared to a pound of diesel fuel. We're going to have to come up with some pretty revolutionary technology to do all this and it won't be overnight, it will take many decades.
Thank you truckers! Not only this podcast with Lex and this gentleman....but what we have learned the last 6 months regarding the power and importance that the trucking industry has to the entire world! Canada!!! Wow, Canadian Truckers will go down as straight up bad ass mf, and rightfully so! Anywho....those of us God fearing, imperfect, red blooded Americans appreciate more than ever, our men and women behind the big wheel! God Bless you all and stay safe out there yall!! Over and out....
Truckers carry the weight of the entire industry/supply chain, and drive on a tightrope constantly. If there’s a problem whatsoever, accident, delay, a new regulation to be imposed etc. the 1st look is at the trucker.
So easy to rob a self driving truck when it will stop at any obstacle. That’s going to be fun to watch... they’ll fin a way to blame and tax a trucker
Probably the best podcast episode in existence about affects of technology on livelihood of truck drivers. You should probably have him Andrew Yang, Joe Rogan and yourself in the same room and have a super podcast. Wow a revelation.
Me: Sheesh, another 3+ hour interview by Lex
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Me: Lex needs to do longer interviews.
Lockdowns like they were done, which were not necessary, has destroying or disrupted important stuff … once again, governments & politicians, who do nothin well, notably not identifying or understanding the unintended consequences of decisions, created these problems with their forced mandated lockdowns.
❤ great and unexpected interview. I totally loved the passion and can appreciate this conversation leading to helping children.
Definitely talk to common folk, that would be fascinating.
Truckers listen to you bro! I’ve listened since you spoke to Rogan and then started your own podcast. It’s bluddy awesome to hear mate!
I also really enjoyed this podcast. He was a very polite, well-spoken, and intelligent gentleman. Another thing I really appreciate it was that he spoke so clearly. (Which made it wonderful for me being able to hear everything) what I really enjoyed is that he has a very similar outlook to my own. (On just about everything talked about) but he's doing something and wants something more from the future then what is currently being put on the table. (I personally want a lot more and that's the problem nothing getting done it builds up and that's how it would become the archaic society that we still are in my opinion) anyways thank you both very much and God Bless you for doing that work it's more important than you even realize.
Having a structural/civil engineer on would be awesome. Like the host of the youtube channel practical engineering
Do yourself a favor and watch this at 1.25 speed. Good information. I have seen Steve before.
Thanks for the tip.
Was just playing an online golf game with a truck driver and recommended this podcast to him. I am listening again because it is such a good discussion that is so much more than just trucking. Needed the 1.25 reminder mostly because of Lex. lol
I started truck driving 4 years ago, Ive made the best money of my life, easiest job ive ever had, I did asphalt most my life I dont get why all these "veterans" say its so hard
They don't know people are making a killing now lol, it's never been easier to start
got a friend who's a truck driver and he says the same thing. it seems like the crowd that likes to call others weak are the weak ones. also, in other news: water is a liquid, cocaine is bad for you and most people are hypocrites.
@@sergedenovo2389 you ever get your own authority or truck, really changes the game money wise but also responsibility.
It's just new vs older attitude they lived the golden age you just don't get it. That why it's called wisdom not intelligence.
@@torfistrom4549 No i get they were handed money on a silver platter now you have to work for it, They have no wisdom to offer truck drivers today
Hey Lex, I honestly don't feel that you'll read this but I'm going to write it as if you would and hope the message finds your heart.
After listening,now, to over 100 hours of your videos with several favorite UA-cam celebrities such as Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan, I can say your closing questions are always amazing... and, also, just a bit off the mark of hitting a home run (in my eyes). Being a 13 year Marine vet. and now serving in the Army National Guard with 47 years of life under my belt, I've earned the wisdom to know humans are happiest in the pursuit of happiness. Now, it sounds incredibly simple but, hear what I'm actually saying, "in the PURSUIT... of happiness." Humans are very peculiar this way because we aren't as happy when we achieve the goal as much as we are while pursuing it. That was a crazy revelation for me because I always thought we all pursued something to get it; But, that's not the case.
Think of everything you achieve. Now, think of what you IMMEDIATELY do after you achieve it... YOU PURSUE THE NEXT GOAL!
The reason I bring this up is because your questions for your guests, while beautifully thought provoking and insightful, miss the mark of driving home the winning message of love you are so fond of. And what I mean by missing the mark is, you bring their entire thought process to the finality of what happiness they'll feel when they achieve (key word there) their goals... instead of asking what goals are they looking to pursue next! By wrapping the interview up with a message of pursuit, you immediately get them into the realm of happiness that will honestly portray your truest desires to spread love with these conversations.
And, PLEASE-please-please, don't take what I'm saying as a correction to what you're doing... you are obviously doing a phenomenal job with your platform! All I'm trying to convey is, (in my opinion only), just like how Elon Musk's mind works, your happiness will be achieved by spurring others to PURSUE goals, instead of achieving them.
Brett Johnson took the rough road to figure this out, but he finally got it before the it was too late. You are much younger than us and far smarter... I believe you will see the target I'm pointing at, instead of the one you like to shoot at. I LOVE YOUR CHANNEL and everything you stand for! God bless, stay safe, Semper Fidelis, and Live Free or Die! 😉👍
Technology is unfortunately what destroyed trucking at least here in EU, GPS trackers cause forcing nearly impossible deadlines, and corpos trying to squeeze everything out of the drivers and the warehousing staff , and ultimately it will kill trucking with the autonomous trucks, most blue collar jobs will shrink to the mindbogglingly boring factory line jobs supporting the machines doing everything, I'm really wondering where it all leads, will we all have tubes showed up our bodies doing nothing but consuming machine made crap? Unless we will finally focus on exploring space the future looks very grim.
What a great interview!
Great guest choice Lex!
With the variety of intelligent guests Lex has its really cool to see him spend so much time on, for a lack of a better phrase, real world issues. Very impressed 👏👏👏
I retired in 2008. Haven’t driven since 1990. Yet I still keep my CDL just in case. I can always get a job if needed.
Was gonna skip this interview but this guy made good listening...really interesting stuff.
All of the owner ops I know have made a killing last few years 🤷🏻♀️
Hi Lex
What a fascinating conversation it goes so much deeper than trucking, I would be great if you could connect with the Amish community to see why they have so much distrust in technology.
I could have "studied" welding. Wish I had. Could made the same wages as I have after years of physics and engineering. Wish I could have played tight end where the real money is. Until we face a real human struggle, we'll keep handing money to idiots and pop stars.
It's never too late to be a welder!
@@leme3082 I can't ! I told the truth after being punished for lying even though I was originally ordered to lie ...., and then the other 2 welding jobs didn't work out , cause of my overactive sweat glands that kept me from seeing cause I fog lenses and glasses everything up lmao!
Wow! That's similar to what I'm always talking about , except it's just in reverse order , this is the first comment Ive actually answered to seriously probably cause I'm always saying it , (just in reverse order) lol!
I loved this video with an unconventional guest on an extremely interesting topic!