Hearing about the forward pass rule from the 30's gave me an idea. During All-Star weekend the should organize an "Era" game. The players play with period equipment and rules as long as there aren't safety concerns. So if they played the 30s, they would still wear their current equipment, including a helmet, but they would play with wooden sticks, period appropriate skates and play by the rules at the time. I bet the players would have a lot of fun, and the fans would get an appreciation for what they have now.
Players don't give a shit about the all star game or weekend. The only thing they care about is winning the cup. Players hate the idea of having to go play these games and risk an injury. I think it's beyond stupid players get suspended if they decide to not go after being selected. NHL should focus on getting refs up to par with the rule book and get some fucking consistency in the game. The only consistent thing in the NHL is inconsistency
As a long time Red Wings fan I watched a lot of Vlad Konstatinov. With the Russian 5 I knew I was witnessing something special. I remember they had one shift that was 6 minutes long against Calgary. It was 5 on 5 and it looked like the Wings were on a power play. The way they cycled the puck was unreal. Vlad was one of my favorite Wings. So sad what happened to him. If Vlad wasn't injured in the limo accident the Wings would have probably won 4 cups in a row.
Wings fan or not, if you could watch Brendan Shanahan place the Cup in Vlad's lap, the following year, without getting a little choked up, I wouldn't want to know you.
Red Wings fan from the U.P. here! I LOVED the Russian 5 line! Man, Vlad the Impaler was such a brutal checker back then, too! Always loved to see him on the ice just level dudes on the open ice! And he wasn't too shabby offensively, either! Great 2-way defenseman, one of the best at the time, would have loved to see him play longer.
@@lawrencemcstephens308 If you haven't seen it, try to find the documentary, Red Army. It studies the history of the Russian hockey program, from its inception to the 5 and their careers over here. Fascinating.
@@conroche1535 Thanks for the heads up! I would love to watch that! Man, watching those dudes on the ice was a clinic! Igor Larionov was such an incredible center for Kozlov and Fedorov!
@@clubpenguin13531 Crazy. But I kinda wonder if that wouldn't have hurt the Wings in the longrun. I have a hard time seeing a Wings with Bure making a trade for Shanahan, especially since there's a possibility that a Wings with Bure manage to pull off that 1995 Cup.
My two favourite all-time players, plus Konstantinov who definitely was becoming one of my favourites ever before the accident. One heck of a draft haul!
Dallas Drake, Mike Sillinger, and Bob Boughner were also drafted by the Wings that year. While not primarily with Detroit, they all had respectable MHL careers. Crazy deep draft class for the Wings that year.
Hunter was already playing his 13th year in the NHL and 32 years of age at the time of this hit. Turgeon was was only on his 6th season at 23yrs of age. Saying this hit ruined Hunters career is not correct. Hunter was already at the age where point production starts to decline for most NHL players. From 33yrs to 38 years Hunter totalled 196 points while Turgeon had a total of 135 point from 33 to 36. Both players played 19 seasons. Hunter 1407 games played - 1020 points. Turgeon 1294 games - 1327.
As sad as it was it's probably cause it was a stupid move on his part. He had a BAC of 0.24, with 2 passengers in his car and he ran into a damn elementary school. That could have been a lot worse.
What a confusing video. My thoughts, lol: Dale Hunter Kind of a strange one here... In 92 & 93, he had 70+ points both seasons. But prior to that, he was generally in the 40 or 50 point range. In the season he was suspended, he posted 38 points, which over the course of 80 games would have put him around 58 points. He was 33 years old at that point, and probably just saw natural regression in his game as he was just getting older. I don't know how playing for another 6 years is a ruined career. According to HockeyReference, he also got mild Selke consideration after the suspension too. Lias Andersson I truly do not understand this one. Throwing the medal didn't really impact him much at all. That same year, he was later brought to the Rangers at the end of the season to play. And as mentioned here, he's played NHL games in 4 seasons afterwards (not going to count this year as a 5th, with it being just one game.) Is the argument being made that if he wouldn't have thrown the silver medal, that he would be more talented? If would have just put the medal on, I feel like he'd still be just as talented (or not talented if you prefer) as he ended up being here. He just seems like a typical case of being one of thousands of prospects who didn't pan out. Vladimir Konstantinov No complaints on this inclusion. But since car crashes are in the mix, I feel like one of the above entries should be replaced with the moment where Dan Snyder asked Dany Heatly for a ride.
I vividly remember the Hunter hit on Turgeon and, though I'm anything but an Islanders fan (LGR), I've always despised Hunter for that cheap shot. I wasn't an admirer before, but that sealed it for me.
@@davidmacdonald8882 And his non-favorites. I remember him trashing Borje Salming: "He could go into the corners with eggs in his pocket and come out with them unbroken." Yeah, Don. He had the guts to go in, take his lumps, (the refs let guys mug him, btw), and, usually, come out with the puck. That made him tougher, in my mind, than any of the goons in the league.
Konstantinov was a future HOF! I have 2 of his #16 jerseys. The regular white one and the 1991 Detroit Cougar throwback. It was the day before my birthday when the crash happened. I’m so glad my Wings won in 1998. When he stood up at Capitals arena in the game 4, there was not a dry eye in the building regardless of fan.
Click Bait Title Lias Anderson's career wasn't ruined. How many draft picks make it to the NHL? How many _stay_ in the NHL? Yes, sometimes draftees don't pan out... but that's nothing to do with tossing a medal into the stands.
I kinda like the throwing the silver medal mentality, it's win or nothing and that's how it works in the NHL, there is the Stanley Cup and that's it, no silver or bronze medal.
Vladimir Konstantinov was an absolute unit, I believe he was only 27 when that happened. Him and lidstrom on that blue line for many more years who knows how many more cups they could have won. He’s beloved here. Still attends games and what not.
@@johngoldsworthy7135 I honestly never have seen an update on that. It was some new stupid ass law which not only affected him but thousands of people. Ask the dumb fckn politician’s 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️ like they even care…..he’s still beloved here by fans
@@johngoldsworthy7135 Are you serious? It's called the Health Care system, combined with State politics. He was covered in the state of Michigan due to the coverage provided under the laws of auto insurance in the state of Michigan. The State of Michigan had some of the most expensive insurance rates in the nation due to a clause that covered injuries sustained by an auto accident. That insurance coverage policy/clause was overturned by a state run vote, and Konstantinov was no longer covered. It has nothing to do with how fans view Konstantinov. Get educated
@@muttonmarkI hope Konstantinov was able to have an aide again. Long-term care can be quite expensive! I am in CA, so I am not familiar with the law you cited.
Was fortunate enough to run into Konstantinov randomly at the Detroit zoo about 2 decades ago. Still a very humble and friendly dude after everything. Miss that Era of Wings hockey
Missed Steve Moore's broken neck from the Todd Bertuzzi incident in the 2004 season. Ended Moore's career and Bertuzzi was charged in a criminal court and was then suspended for a season, just got lucky that there was a lockout in 2005
Steve Moore deserved what he got. Well maybe not a career ending injury but he was trash. He targeted Naslund's head and basically ended Markus' career. People forget how devastating that hit was on Naslund. He messed up his wrist so much that he didn't have his wrist shot any more. Moore was a coward who refused to fight Bertuzzi a few games later.
@@MickLoud999 That incredible attitude sums up pretty well why hockey was fucked up pre-lockout. Only way to curb misdemeanours is retaliating with violence? Bertuzzi messed up Moore's life deliberately. He should've been jailed for assault but sadly he continued to play in NHL. Doesn't matter at all how Moore used to play, Bertuzzi's crime was beyond hockey.
@@MickLoud999 Oh yeah, it was so devastating that he played pro hockey for another 6 years without any serious medical issues. That hit was clean too, what kind of idiot chases a puck on his knees? You have a selective memory.
Surprised Marty McSorley wasn't in this video for that dirty high stick on Donald Brashear: led to a criminal investigation, and McSorley being blacklisted from the NHL.
Samuelsson was the Bill Laimbeer of hockey. Always after cheap shots and trying to injure his opponents but also always ready to run away when the time to face the consequences arrived.
Definitely a few more players with ruined careers like Mitch Miller (self induced) or Marc Savard (courtesy of Matt Cooke) Probably more than enough for a Part II Nice work on this one
@@marcstevens8576 I had forgotten about that incident. A nearly lethal accident, but stories like this remind us why hockey players and goalies in particular wear as much equipment as they do. Channels, like this, can be a good source of history that should not be forgotten. To this day, I remember playing street hockey pretending to be Gump Worsley without a mask, until I took one in the eye. Yup, I am that old.😄
@@Paddyjack Sadly there is likely a whole episode of the concussion ended players. Though perhaps that is something of the 21st century. I remember players like Ted Green who took a stick to the head, cracked his skull suffered 'brain damage' , got a plate and came back to play two more years. That is just nuts.
Hunter received that for a blindsided hit? NHL Player Safety sure has changed, and not in a good way. These days a hit like that would receive a 5k fine.
Great vid and it makes sense in the context that you framed it, but it urks me to see the Dale Hunter incident in the same category as the Konstantivov catastrophe. Dale basically pulled a 'McSorley' before the Brashear/McSorley incident, completely guilty of the consequences of his temper-tantrum, whereas Konstantinov was an innocent victim of a horrendous event. Perhaps Vlad was drunk at the time and rightly so in the team's first championship in over 40 years, but he wasn''t driving, he was a victim of an unfortunate life-changing horror. What amplifies this is the Norris success that Lidsrrom enjoyed and fully earned, knowing the only person who could rightfully challenge him during the time was his fallen teammate. And above all other 'what-if's' is wondering what would have happened if that disaster never occurred, and you had the two best defensemen in the league on the same team, with the solid goaltending of Vernon and Osgood, and on top of all of that was the offensive prowess of Yzerman, Federov, Shannahan, other Russians, Hull, Robitaille, Grind Line... the list just goes on and on.
Dale Hunter most likely robbed the Cup from the Islanders they were playing perfectly up until that moment and would've been much harder for the Canadiens to beat
I'd love to see someone do a little thing on great great uncle Frank Foyston he a great career in the early 1900s helping Vancouver to win their only Stanly Cup
There are many stories we should remember around this sport, which is quite dangerous one, on and off the ice. Ludek Cajka from then-Czechoslovakia in mid-80s, who broke his neck and died while playing the game… The story of Danny Heatley (no.2 on 2000 draft, Calder trophy winner in 2002) and his teammate Dan Snyder… Slava Voynov and his wife’s case (They are still been living together until this time, BTW). Canadian player who’s been lost in gletcher ice while snowboarding in Switzerland in mid-80s (Heard that they have found his body due to the ice has melted 20 years later)
I would add another Czech Jaroslav Otevřel who got paralysed after falling into opponent's knee while playing in Finnish SM-liiga in 1996. The Heatley accident was definitely more tragic for Snyder. Heatley made a decent career after all.
I would disagree strongly with the Dale Hunter scenario; the reason he didn’t put up many points in the last 5 seasons was due to his age and the game became a more faster & skilled league leaving older/ slower paced players behind. Dale amassed great scoring credentials 323 G, 697 A, 1020 PTS., not to mention 3,563 PIM… he was the heart and soul of the Québec Nordiques and you could say the same for the first six seasons, while playing for the capitals; any team would love to have him on their side, but to play against him, was not enjoyable, and I do not agree with what he did to Turgeon BUT ago say it RUINED his career- not a chance ! You are INCORRECT on that belief my friend
@@kkttss1928 bro I've seen him play live. He had the magical ability to make the opposing team forget they were playing hockey. That's invaluable. He had it.
@@russellm785 The "attack" you speak of, in actual relatio to the events tbat really took place are largely overrated due to the nature of Moores injury. An injury wgich was most likely caused by the fact that players piled on top of Bertuzzii and Moore in a dog pile on the ice. The physical actions of Bertuzzi were not unlike countless on ice altercations that were virtually common on the ice on many nights. Moore was a cheap shot artist who went after all star players, but generally didnt want to actually drop the gloves. Bertuzzis career suffered far more damage, and Todd was a victim of being used as an example by a league desperately trying to curb its violence
@@hockeyeverything4339 Again, don’t see how any of that is relevant. Star players have been targeted since the first puck was dropped. It’s part of the game. Sucker punching a guy from behind and driving his head into the ice face first is not. If it was, Bertuzzi would not have sit out 20 games. It’s also not protecting your starts when you sit out 20 games. Hard to protect your stars sitting in the stands on your couch at home. As far as his career “suffering…” Good, at least he still had a career following the assault. The name of the video is “5 Moments that RUINED NHL Players Careers!” and Bertuzzi on Moore qualifies. And I’d love for you to find me just 1 of these “on ice altercations” that come even close to that incident. Give me a break
@@russellm785 Its relevant because the video isnt about fringe NHLers careers being ruined. Id venture to say, Moores NHL career most likely wouldnt have been remembered in a historical NHL player . Every person in the vid, is virtually a household name, to anyone who watched, and had an interest in the league, in the particular era they played in. The only reason anyone will remember Steve Moore, is because this took place. I also want to add, though I dislike the way Moore played, there are still, and have always been players like that. Id never wish him any serious injury, that may, or may not, end your career, and/or effect the rest of your life. However, hockey players, all take a rather serious risk everytime they step on the ice. The NHL just happens to pay the most. I dont see how anyone could argue that this was an assault,above and beyond, what could happen on any given night in an NHL game. Mcsorleys stick clubbing on Brashear may fall into that category, but not this. Do I agree with that philosophy? Probably not. But at that time, in the NHL, barbarism was frequent, and a lot worse not long before that. Its just the unfortunate occurrence of a broken neck that made people notice. Im surprised that this, and other incidents as severe havent happened more often. There is no way Bertuzzi meant to hurt him that badly
One thing I always wonder when people make videos about players careers that were ended due to health or those “times hockey was more than a sport” videos is they never mention jiri Fischer,
I was 7 years old when Vladimir crashed after they won the cup. Those finals are the first sporting event I remember. We lived just south of flint in metro Detroit so obviously it was insanity around town.
Ruined Hunter's career? He went on to captain his team to a Stanley cup finals, had his number retired by Washington, now owns and coaches one of the most successful junior franchises ever, and has been a mentor to many of today's NHL's stars. What's your definition of ruined?
What truly sucks about Konstatinov is that the stoned chauffeur (all the more painful given my being as pro-weed as they come) who paralyzed him was a "designated driver" hired by the Red Wings...
Dale Hunter was 33 when he hit Turgeon. His numbers were bound to go down anyways. Also, the following season, he had 38 points in 52 games, which is around his career pace. Did his reputation suffer after the incident... sure. However, the incident had nothing to do with his lowering season point totals... his age did.
Bro, Dale Hunter is the legendary coach of my hometown London Knights. His career was epic and now he and his family are very successful, just like our Knights. GKG!
It's true Hunter's one of those multi-millionaire athletes who got to retire early, but I don't think it's entirely because of the inexcusable Turgeon hit.
Wait... The wings had 77, 16, and 5 all on the blueline at the same time? If time travel is ever figured out; all defensemen need to travel to this point in time for a clinic.
You know there is actual moments in NHL history that did really end careers in an instant. The definition of ending a career would be no longer playing pro hockey
Turgeon missed the entire Round 2 against Pittsburgh (NYI would knock off the defending champs in a Game 7 overtime goal by David Volek), and would lose to Montreal, but not before Turgeon returned
Konstantinov was going to be better overall than Nicklaus Lidstrom. He was a beast. Hit like a truck, was starting to score more. Detroit would have won at least two or more cups with him and Lidstrom on defense. So 😢
This video is dumb. Dale Hunter was 33 when his suspension started. He was on the tail end of his career. Back in the 80s-90s, it was not often that players played into their late 30's. It was quite rare because they didn't have the training methods and nutritional information that athletes of today have. That's why his production dropped. He was old and no longer played on the top 2 lines, so he wasn't getting power play time. And Cam Neely did not hurt his knee from the knee to knee hit. This is one of the most common sports myths out there! What actually happened was Cam went to line up Ulf as payback, Ulf Samuelsson low bridged him and that's how he got hut. It was NOT from that hit. In this hit it's Neely's right knee that got hit. But the thigh that calcified was his LEFT knee. Here is Cam Neely himself explaining it: ua-cam.com/video/orQ-S7qw3pU/v-deo.html
What happened to Konstaninov is the worst tragedy in the NHL within the last 40 years. Shortly after his accident, it would have been far more compassionate and humane to pull the plug on him allowing death with honor and dignity as opposed to letting him live the next 25 years and counting with a severe, degrading, disability. Truly a crime in and of itself.
Dale Hunter should be in the Hall of Fame for being the only player to rack up over a thousand points and 3000 minutes in penalties. Despite the Pierre Turgeon incident.
Dale Hunter is a reach but Lias Andersson is a fallacy and disrespectful towards Morentz' tragedy. Andersson didn't have the mental strength to make it to NHL in the first place i.e. he never was a good enough hockey player. At least for now, he's still young and has obviously grown up in the farm.
The Dale Hunter segment must be the dumbest thing I have listened to, He was 33 years old when the incident happens and he retired six years later at 39... yeah that ruined his career. Do you know something about the game?
Hearing about the forward pass rule from the 30's gave me an idea. During All-Star weekend the should organize an "Era" game. The players play with period equipment and rules as long as there aren't safety concerns. So if they played the 30s, they would still wear their current equipment, including a helmet, but they would play with wooden sticks, period appropriate skates and play by the rules at the time. I bet the players would have a lot of fun, and the fans would get an appreciation for what they have now.
Dunno bout the skates, cuz screw some legs up
And the game ends up 23-21 because no goalie playing in the league has ever worn leather pads which weigh thrice what foam pads do.
This is a really cool idea!
That does sound fun! The only problem is Gary Bettman doesn’t allow for such joy
Players don't give a shit about the all star game or weekend. The only thing they care about is winning the cup. Players hate the idea of having to go play these games and risk an injury. I think it's beyond stupid players get suspended if they decide to not go after being selected. NHL should focus on getting refs up to par with the rule book and get some fucking consistency in the game. The only consistent thing in the NHL is inconsistency
As a long time Red Wings fan I watched a lot of Vlad Konstatinov. With the Russian 5 I knew I was witnessing something special. I remember they had one shift that was 6 minutes long against Calgary. It was 5 on 5 and it looked like the Wings were on a power play. The way they cycled the puck was unreal. Vlad was one of my favorite Wings. So sad what happened to him. If Vlad wasn't injured in the limo accident the Wings would have probably won 4 cups in a row.
Wings fan or not, if you could watch Brendan Shanahan place the Cup in Vlad's lap, the following year, without getting a little choked up, I wouldn't want to know you.
Yeah that was crazy. We never hear about the team masseuse that was crippled from the accident too. Prayers for him as well
Red Wings fan from the U.P. here! I LOVED the Russian 5 line! Man, Vlad the Impaler was such a brutal checker back then, too! Always loved to see him on the ice just level dudes on the open ice! And he wasn't too shabby offensively, either! Great 2-way defenseman, one of the best at the time, would have loved to see him play longer.
@@lawrencemcstephens308 If you haven't seen it, try to find the documentary, Red Army. It studies the history of the Russian hockey program, from its inception to the 5 and their careers over here. Fascinating.
@@conroche1535 Thanks for the heads up! I would love to watch that! Man, watching those dudes on the ice was a clinic! Igor Larionov was such an incredible center for Kozlov and Fedorov!
Dale Hunter’s career ruined by… playing 6 more seasons
His success with the London Knights made up for it. He’s like a Hockey mastermind now along with his brother.
But he'll likely never make the Hockey Hall of Fame which is a shame
Dale was a tool
Maybe they meant the other guy, he only played another 15 seasons
Agreed this did not ruin his career at all 😂 he was already kinda old at that point.
Fun fact: Konstantinov was taken in the same draft that the Wings also selected Nick Lidstrom and Sergei Fedorov.
And if they found the papers that the Canucks ended up finding, they would have drafted Pavel Bure as well
@@clubpenguin13531 Crazy. But I kinda wonder if that wouldn't have hurt the Wings in the longrun. I have a hard time seeing a Wings with Bure making a trade for Shanahan, especially since there's a possibility that a Wings with Bure manage to pull off that 1995 Cup.
My two favourite all-time players, plus Konstantinov who definitely was becoming one of my favourites ever before the accident. One heck of a draft haul!
Dallas Drake, Mike Sillinger, and Bob Boughner were also drafted by the Wings that year. While not primarily with Detroit, they all had respectable MHL careers. Crazy deep draft class for the Wings that year.
I like that you go through all the NHL history and dont just keep it modern. Great video, thank you for the entertainment!
Hunter was already playing his 13th year in the NHL and 32 years of age at the time of this hit. Turgeon was was only on his 6th season at 23yrs of age. Saying this hit ruined Hunters career is not correct. Hunter was already at the age where point production starts to decline for most NHL players. From 33yrs to 38 years Hunter totalled 196 points while Turgeon had a total of 135 point from 33 to 36. Both players played 19 seasons. Hunter 1407 games played - 1020 points. Turgeon 1294 games - 1327.
Not sure why but no one ever mentions Pelle Lindbergh...a sad ending to a player who could have been the best goalie in NHL history :(
As sad as it was it's probably cause it was a stupid move on his part. He had a BAC of 0.24, with 2 passengers in his car and he ran into a damn elementary school. That could have been a lot worse.
@@moappleseider1699 thought it was a wall...
@@thisspacenotforrent well i mean schools have walls right
@@benjlar1902 yeah but I thought I remembered it was into a residential place with a stone wall at the front, do not remember it being a school...
@@thisspacenotforrent idk if it was a school or not im just saying schools have walls
Was anybody else waiting for Todd Bertuzzi? Definitely on the most infamous moments of this generation.
Yeah. Dude should of served jail time.
Steve moore. That's who's career was actually finished. I cringe hearing the name Bertuzzi, even though the current ones had nothing to do with it
@@ryanwarner5006I don't condone what EITHER did and shame on the NHL not stepping in
If hearing the name Bertuzzi makes you cringe is because you’re a snowflake
What a confusing video. My thoughts, lol:
Dale Hunter
Kind of a strange one here... In 92 & 93, he had 70+ points both seasons. But prior to that, he was generally in the 40 or 50 point range. In the season he was suspended, he posted 38 points, which over the course of 80 games would have put him around 58 points. He was 33 years old at that point, and probably just saw natural regression in his game as he was just getting older. I don't know how playing for another 6 years is a ruined career. According to HockeyReference, he also got mild Selke consideration after the suspension too.
Lias Andersson
I truly do not understand this one. Throwing the medal didn't really impact him much at all. That same year, he was later brought to the Rangers at the end of the season to play. And as mentioned here, he's played NHL games in 4 seasons afterwards (not going to count this year as a 5th, with it being just one game.) Is the argument being made that if he wouldn't have thrown the silver medal, that he would be more talented? If would have just put the medal on, I feel like he'd still be just as talented (or not talented if you prefer) as he ended up being here. He just seems like a typical case of being one of thousands of prospects who didn't pan out.
Vladimir Konstantinov
No complaints on this inclusion. But since car crashes are in the mix, I feel like one of the above entries should be replaced with the moment where Dan Snyder asked Dany Heatly for a ride.
I remember that Hunter hit like it was yesterday. Im STILL MAD!!!
I'm so glad Konstantinov got to rub that wheelchair in his face.
I vividly remember the Hunter hit on Turgeon and, though I'm anything but an Islanders fan (LGR), I've always despised Hunter for that cheap shot. I wasn't an admirer before, but that sealed it for me.
I remember Don Cherry defending Dale Hunter at the time. Don had his favourites.
@@davidmacdonald8882 And his non-favorites. I remember him trashing Borje Salming: "He could go into the corners with eggs in his pocket and come out with them unbroken." Yeah, Don. He had the guts to go in, take his lumps, (the refs let guys mug him, btw), and, usually, come out with the puck. That made him tougher, in my mind, than any of the goons in the league.
Cam Neely ended up in the Hall of Fame, but not with the numbers he could've had.
Konstantinov was a future HOF! I have 2 of his #16 jerseys. The regular white one and the 1991 Detroit Cougar throwback. It was the day before my birthday when the crash happened. I’m so glad my Wings won in 1998. When he stood up at Capitals arena in the game 4, there was not a dry eye in the building regardless of fan.
And as for Hunter, he deserved to retire a loser after costing the Islanders a real shot at the cup.
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Lias Anderson's career wasn't ruined. How many draft picks make it to the NHL? How many _stay_ in the NHL? Yes, sometimes draftees don't pan out... but that's nothing to do with tossing a medal into the stands.
I kinda like the throwing the silver medal mentality, it's win or nothing and that's how it works in the NHL, there is the Stanley Cup and that's it, no silver or bronze medal.
Vladimir Konstantinov was an absolute unit, I believe he was only 27 when that happened. Him and lidstrom on that blue line for many more years who knows how many more cups they could have won. He’s beloved here. Still attends games and what not.
If he’s so beloved then why is Michigan threatening to take away his home care aid?
@@johngoldsworthy7135 I honestly never have seen an update on that. It was some new stupid ass law which not only affected him but thousands of people. Ask the dumb fckn politician’s 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️ like they even care…..he’s still beloved here by fans
@@johngoldsworthy7135 Are you serious? It's called the Health Care system, combined with State politics. He was covered in the state of Michigan due to the coverage provided under the laws of auto insurance in the state of Michigan. The State of Michigan had some of the most expensive insurance rates in the nation due to a clause that covered injuries sustained by an auto accident. That insurance coverage policy/clause was overturned by a state run vote, and Konstantinov was no longer covered. It has nothing to do with how fans view Konstantinov. Get educated
@@muttonmarkI hope Konstantinov was able to have an aide again. Long-term care can be quite expensive!
I am in CA, so I am not familiar with the law you cited.
I can still remember exactly where I was when I heard about Konstantinov's accident.
I wasn't even born but I've researched the accident. That driver is a reeetard
Me too. Sinbads.
DaleHunter is the only player in NHL history to record 1,000 pts and 3,000 PIMs
Dale Hunter should be in the hall of fame. The way they judge is ludicrious.
Was fortunate enough to run into Konstantinov randomly at the Detroit zoo about 2 decades ago. Still a very humble and friendly dude after everything. Miss that Era of Wings hockey
Missed Steve Moore's broken neck from the Todd Bertuzzi incident in the 2004 season. Ended Moore's career and Bertuzzi was charged in a criminal court and was then suspended for a season, just got lucky that there was a lockout in 2005
Steve Moore deserved what he got. Well maybe not a career ending injury but he was trash. He targeted Naslund's head and basically ended Markus' career. People forget how devastating that hit was on Naslund. He messed up his wrist so much that he didn't have his wrist shot any more. Moore was a coward who refused to fight Bertuzzi a few games later.
@@MickLoud999 That incredible attitude sums up pretty well why hockey was fucked up pre-lockout. Only way to curb misdemeanours is retaliating with violence? Bertuzzi messed up Moore's life deliberately. He should've been jailed for assault but sadly he continued to play in NHL. Doesn't matter at all how Moore used to play, Bertuzzi's crime was beyond hockey.
Everytime I hear bertuzzi, even the current ones I cringe.
@@MickLoud999 Oh yeah, it was so devastating that he played pro hockey for another 6 years without any serious medical issues. That hit was clean too, what kind of idiot chases a puck on his knees?
You have a selective memory.
thats the nordiques not the avalanche
Surprised Marty McSorley wasn't in this video for that dirty high stick on Donald Brashear: led to a criminal investigation, and McSorley being blacklisted from the NHL.
Was going to ask about that.
Yeah that was disrespectful and I'm a life long Bruins fan. Dude tainted the spoked B. Wasn't even a highstick it was a clubbing.
Samuelsson was the Bill Laimbeer of hockey. Always after cheap shots and trying to injure his opponents but also always ready to run away when the time to face the consequences arrived.
You're lying Sir. Bill Laimbeer would fight you if he had to. Wasn't a "great" fighter, but he WOULD throw, if he absolutely had to.
Definitely a few more players with ruined careers like Mitch Miller (self induced) or Marc Savard (courtesy of Matt Cooke) Probably more than enough for a Part II Nice work on this one
What ever became of that Buffalo Sabres goalie Clint Malarchuck (S.I.C.) who nearly was beheaded??
@@marcstevens8576 I had forgotten about that incident. A nearly lethal accident, but stories like this remind us why hockey players and goalies in particular wear as much equipment as they do. Channels, like this, can be a good source of history that should not be forgotten. To this day, I remember playing street hockey pretending to be Gump Worsley without a mask, until I took one in the eye. Yup, I am that old.😄
Pat Lafontaine too
@@Paddyjack Sadly there is likely a whole episode of the concussion ended players. Though perhaps that is something of the 21st century. I remember players like Ted Green who took a stick to the head, cracked his skull suffered 'brain damage' , got a plate and came back to play two more years. That is just nuts.
Steve Moore, a rookie, broken neck and paralyzed by the thug Bertuzzi.
I couldn’t imagine hockey without forward passes. Incredible.
Nuts!
Dale Hunter shouldn’t be on this list. He literally just got old and his play declined. It was not a result of an incident
Hunter received that for a blindsided hit? NHL Player Safety sure has changed, and not in a good way. These days a hit like that would receive a 5k fine.
Ulf Samuelsson was one of the first names I learned to hate in hockey. Still probably tops the list of all time scumbag players.
Great vid and it makes sense in the context that you framed it, but it urks me to see the Dale Hunter incident in the same category as the Konstantivov catastrophe. Dale basically pulled a 'McSorley' before the Brashear/McSorley incident, completely guilty of the consequences of his temper-tantrum, whereas Konstantinov was an innocent victim of a horrendous event. Perhaps Vlad was drunk at the time and rightly so in the team's first championship in over 40 years, but he wasn''t driving, he was a victim of an unfortunate life-changing horror. What amplifies this is the Norris success that Lidsrrom enjoyed and fully earned, knowing the only person who could rightfully challenge him during the time was his fallen teammate. And above all other 'what-if's' is wondering what would have happened if that disaster never occurred, and you had the two best defensemen in the league on the same team, with the solid goaltending of Vernon and Osgood, and on top of all of that was the offensive prowess of Yzerman, Federov, Shannahan, other Russians, Hull, Robitaille, Grind Line... the list just goes on and on.
Dale Hunter most likely robbed the Cup from the Islanders they were playing perfectly up until that moment and would've been much harder for the Canadiens to beat
I'd love to see someone do a little thing on great great uncle Frank Foyston he a great career in the early 1900s helping Vancouver to win their only Stanly Cup
Dale Hunter was Tom Wilson, before Tom Wilson
I’m just happy cam Neely made the hall of fame
There are many stories we should remember around this sport, which is quite dangerous one, on and off the ice.
Ludek Cajka from then-Czechoslovakia in mid-80s, who broke his neck and died while playing the game…
The story of Danny Heatley (no.2 on 2000 draft, Calder trophy winner in 2002) and his teammate Dan Snyder…
Slava Voynov and his wife’s case (They are still been living together until this time, BTW).
Canadian player who’s been lost in gletcher ice while snowboarding in Switzerland in mid-80s (Heard that they have found his body due to the ice has melted 20 years later)
I would add another Czech Jaroslav Otevřel who got paralysed after falling into opponent's knee while playing in Finnish SM-liiga in 1996.
The Heatley accident was definitely more tragic for Snyder. Heatley made a decent career after all.
I would disagree strongly with the Dale Hunter scenario; the reason he didn’t put up many points in the last 5 seasons was due to his age and the game became a more faster & skilled league leaving older/ slower paced players behind. Dale amassed great scoring credentials 323 G, 697 A, 1020 PTS., not to mention 3,563 PIM… he was the heart and soul of the Québec Nordiques and you could say the same for the first six seasons, while playing for the capitals; any team would love to have him on their side, but to play against him, was not enjoyable, and I do not agree with what he did to Turgeon BUT ago say it RUINED his career- not a chance ! You are INCORRECT on that belief my friend
Maybe I misunderstood the point but Larry Robinson had a +120 season back in 76/77, no?
Dale Hunter was 32 years old when he did this dirty play. His career wasn't the same because he was past his prime.
Dale Hunter was a guy you wanted on your team and caused anxiety to play against him. King of the Agitators.
Not really.
Nah, not even close
@@kkttss1928 bro I've seen him play live. He had the magical ability to make the opposing team forget they were playing hockey. That's invaluable. He had it.
@@intheirownwords6079 Doesn't change that the POS threw one of the dirtiest players of in NHL history
@@jtp2007 I must confess, I'm not a fan of cheap shots unless the fate of nations are on the line
As an Av fan Bertuzzi ending Steve Moore’s career still gets me worked up
Moore was a fringe nhler
@@hockeyeverything4339 not sure how that’s relevant. Easily one of the most egregious assaults on ice and destroyed a man’s livelihood
@@russellm785 The "attack" you speak of, in actual relatio to the events tbat really took place are largely overrated due to the nature of Moores injury. An injury wgich was most likely caused by the fact that players piled on top of Bertuzzii and Moore in a dog pile on the ice. The physical actions of Bertuzzi were not unlike countless on ice altercations that were virtually common on the ice on many nights. Moore was a cheap shot artist who went after all star players, but generally didnt want to actually drop the gloves.
Bertuzzis career suffered far more damage, and Todd was a victim of being used as an example by a league desperately trying to curb its violence
@@hockeyeverything4339 Again, don’t see how any of that is relevant. Star players have been targeted since the first puck was dropped. It’s part of the game. Sucker punching a guy from behind and driving his head into the ice face first is not. If it was, Bertuzzi would not have sit out 20 games. It’s also not protecting your starts when you sit out 20 games. Hard to protect your stars sitting in the stands on your couch at home. As far as his career “suffering…” Good, at least he still had a career following the assault. The name of the video is “5 Moments that RUINED NHL Players Careers!” and Bertuzzi on Moore qualifies. And I’d love for you to find me just 1 of these “on ice altercations” that come even close to that incident. Give me a break
@@russellm785 Its relevant because the video isnt about fringe NHLers careers being ruined. Id venture to say, Moores NHL career most likely wouldnt have been remembered in a historical NHL player . Every person in the vid, is virtually a household name, to anyone who watched, and had an interest in the league, in the particular era they played in. The only reason anyone will remember Steve Moore, is because this took place. I also want to add, though I dislike the way Moore played, there are still, and have always been players like that. Id never wish him any serious injury, that may, or may not, end your career, and/or effect the rest of your life. However, hockey players, all take a rather serious risk everytime they step on the ice. The NHL just happens to pay the most. I dont see how anyone could argue that this was an assault,above and beyond, what could happen on any given night in an NHL game. Mcsorleys stick clubbing on Brashear may fall into that category, but not this. Do I agree with that philosophy? Probably not. But at that time, in the NHL, barbarism was frequent, and a lot worse not long before that. Its just the unfortunate occurrence of a broken neck that made people notice. Im surprised that this, and other incidents as severe havent happened more often. There is no way Bertuzzi meant to hurt him that badly
You only have 5 stories here, and two of them are speculative at best on how the "incident" ruined the player's career.
Hunter is that guy that just can't handle the fact that there is always someone better than you
In his case there were quite a few.
@@ryanwarner5006 Ahh no
Dale Hunter was a sturdy rugged player.
Dale hunter played 7 more seasons after the incident and that ruined his career... how? lol
I feel like I’ve seen most of these before
One thing I always wonder when people make videos about players careers that were ended due to health or those “times hockey was more than a sport” videos is they never mention jiri Fischer,
Pelle Lindbergh of the Flyers is another player with a promising career that was cut short.
Yes, but maybe a fatal carcrash is something you dont put in a lust like this.
I was 7 years old when Vladimir crashed after they won the cup. Those finals are the first sporting event I remember. We lived just south of flint in metro Detroit so obviously it was insanity around town.
Vladdy was a nick lidstrom, Chris pronger hybrid
Ruined Hunter's career? He went on to captain his team to a Stanley cup finals, had his number retired by Washington, now owns and coaches one of the most successful junior franchises ever, and has been a mentor to many of today's NHL's stars. What's your definition of ruined?
May want to update this list. Raymond and Seider were on the all rookie team last season
Yeah, I was wondering about that. He missed Raymond and Seider
what about seider?
You forgot Dan Snyder, thanks a lot Danny Heatley
Another great video. Keep them coming
Vladdy 😥
What truly sucks about Konstatinov is that the stoned chauffeur (all the more painful given my being as pro-weed as they come) who paralyzed him was a "designated driver" hired by the Red Wings...
In Russia, the “designated driver” is the guy who drinks only three cups of vodka that night.
I think you're missing a few all rookies from the Red Wings 😉
Vladdie, how great you were. Your skills wont be forgotten
Hey, Dale... Erie says SWEEEEET CAROLINE.... 😂
Hunter didnt know a goal was scored finished his check😅
In 1991 there was no Eastern and Western Conferences. It was the Wales and Campbell Conferences.
Dale Hunter was 33 when he hit Turgeon. His numbers were bound to go down anyways. Also, the following season, he had 38 points in 52 games, which is around his career pace. Did his reputation suffer after the incident... sure. However, the incident had nothing to do with his lowering season point totals... his age did.
He also went on to coach the London Knights to winning the Memorial Cup,. Great coach but that hit was disgusting
@Philster63 yes, I'm from the London area and I've enjoyed his Knights teams over the years. He actually owns the Knights.
F in the chat for Howie Morenz
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The medal one is so stupid. I thought it was more of a show of how badly he wanted to win than “poor sportsmanship”. Am I missing something here?
9:15 - this might be somewhat right, but Mortiz Seider and Lucas Raymond were on the 2021 NHL All Rookie Team
The Neely hit was really not dirty. He did a lot worse to be chastised for.
Since no one mentions it I figure Neely did bunch of stuff like that himself?
This is so good of a vid
Didn’t dale hunter win a gold medal 🥇 with team as a coach
Where was the Pittsburgh stick on stick incident from the beginning?
Bro, Dale Hunter is the legendary coach of my hometown London Knights. His career was epic and now he and his family are very successful, just like our Knights. GKG!
It's true Hunter's one of those multi-millionaire athletes who got to retire early, but I don't think it's entirely because of the inexcusable Turgeon hit.
Wait... The wings had 77, 16, and 5 all on the blueline at the same time? If time travel is ever figured out; all defensemen need to travel to this point in time for a clinic.
What about Marty McSorley hacking Brashears head off.....and never playing another game.
You know there is actual moments in NHL history that did really end careers in an instant. The definition of ending a career would be no longer playing pro hockey
That hit on cam Neely wasn’t dirty. It was a clean check they just happened to bang knees. It wasn’t like Samuelson deliberately hit knees.
Konstantinov really could’ve won multiple Norris trophies
Cam scored 50 in 44, not 49. Only other person to do it faster was Gretzky.
I forgot the Isles got to the Prince of Wales Finals by neating the Pens without Turgeon. Big what if IMHO.
Howie Morenz died in 1937, how did he make the all-star team when he was deceased?
You can't keep a good man down.
Turgeon missed the entire Round 2 against Pittsburgh (NYI would knock off the defending champs in a Game 7 overtime goal by David Volek), and would lose to Montreal, but not before Turgeon returned
Turgeon played limited minutes on the power play in game 7 vs. the Penguins
And of course just in case you have been living under a rock…Cam Neely was in the movie Dumb and Dumber as the pissed off trucker. 😆🤘
Honorable mention should be Dany Heatley
konstantinov wasnt just paralyzed, he also became brain damaged as a result of the accident
Konstantinov was going to be better overall than Nicklaus Lidstrom. He was a beast. Hit like a truck, was starting to score more. Detroit would have won at least two or more cups with him and Lidstrom on defense. So 😢
Steve Moore and Dan Snyder instead of Hunter or Andersson and you'd be spot on.
This video is dumb. Dale Hunter was 33 when his suspension started. He was on the tail end of his career. Back in the 80s-90s, it was not often that players played into their late 30's. It was quite rare because they didn't have the training methods and nutritional information that athletes of today have. That's why his production dropped. He was old and no longer played on the top 2 lines, so he wasn't getting power play time. And Cam Neely did not hurt his knee from the knee to knee hit. This is one of the most common sports myths out there! What actually happened was Cam went to line up Ulf as payback, Ulf Samuelsson low bridged him and that's how he got hut. It was NOT from that hit. In this hit it's Neely's right knee that got hit. But the thigh that calcified was his LEFT knee. Here is Cam Neely himself explaining it: ua-cam.com/video/orQ-S7qw3pU/v-deo.html
What happened to Konstaninov is the worst tragedy in the NHL within the last 40 years. Shortly after his accident, it would have been far more compassionate and humane to pull the plug on him allowing death with honor and dignity as opposed to letting him live the next 25 years and counting with a severe, degrading, disability. Truly a crime in and of itself.
Dale Hunter is one of the greatest junior Hockey coaches of all time he might go the hall as a builder
Cherry asked Hunter why he isn't in hall of fame. Dale said I'm not their type.
Howie Morenz died at 34 looked like 57.
You should add Kyle Beach
Richard Zednik should be in here, this guy was so much dominant for the canadian untill he got salty hit.
I've never had respect for Dale Hunter, he was always a dirty player and would never drop the gloves..
Doubtful that shot by Hunter was the reason.
Dale Hunter should be in the Hall of Fame for being the only player to rack up over a thousand points and 3000 minutes in penalties. Despite the Pierre Turgeon incident.
Show the hit Eric Lindros threw against Constantinov
4:25 DAMN !
Get it straight he won the cup after the limo accident. You've never seen him cup skate
Some of these came against my Wings not my fault every team was jealous of us. Poor Vladdy... Still won 2 more after...
Dale Hunter is a reach but Lias Andersson is a fallacy and disrespectful towards Morentz' tragedy. Andersson didn't have the mental strength to make it to NHL in the first place i.e. he never was a good enough hockey player. At least for now, he's still young and has obviously grown up in the farm.
The Rangers just can't catch a break on prospects.
Ulf what a legend
" Kick his ass Sea Bass " Cam Neely in Dumb And Dumber.
The Dale Hunter segment must be the dumbest thing I have listened to, He was 33 years old when the incident happens and he retired six years later at 39... yeah that ruined his career. Do you know something about the game?
Its Nicklas Lidström and not Nicklas Lindström!
Could of put the Todd Bertuzzi incident on here