How to Forgive People
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- Friends, today we continue our discussion of a recent article by Tim Keller, the popular Protestant pastor, titled “The Fading of Forgiveness: Tracing the Disappearance of the Thing We Need Most.”
We previously explored why forgiveness has faded in our culture. Today, we focus on the path forward, how we can practice and encourage more forgiveness.
A listener asks, what is, for me, the most annoying passage in the Bible?
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I think Bishop barron is one of the best Bishops I have ever found with deepest biblical knowledge. There is no doubt that Christianity and missionaries played a crucial role in many countries. I guess half of the worlds population have been uplifted in socially, culturally, economically by the missionaries.
"There is no peace without justice. There is no justice without forgiveness." - Saint Pope JP2
My husband and I have a situation with years of history that we have been unable to resolve despite counseling and so many prayers. With Bishop Barron's suggestion that we leave the past behind, I will begin today to move forward with my husband.
Somewhere I read that to help me forgive, I should ask God to Bless the person, who did me wrong. I have done so, now, even when I am in traffic, and someone bugs me, I say: God, bless him, his wife and his whole family, and I feel free.
So weird that it works… but it works every time
This way You forgive constantly, and it doesn't have a hold on You.
This works every time. Even where the load of unforgiveness seems too heavy to bear, just surrendering to God and asking him to help you to forgive makes a huge difference
I’m not there yet … I need to practice
@@pacibaco This is practice: here, on earth, I think:
When I found myself incapable of forgiving someone who had hurt me deeply, my priest introduced me to the Divine Mercy Chaplet (in Spanish “Coronilla de la Divina Misericordia). I thought it would be impossible to forgive, but with God everything is possible. I was able to forgive, felt a huge weight off my shoulders …the cross did not feel as heavy anymore)
Thank you Lord Jesus Christ for your abundant mercy 🙏🏼
A thought which came to me was that I am my own enemy not to the other but to myself if I don't foregive. Not forgiving is like developing many. I am free to forgive through Christ on the cross.
I love the Divine Mercy chaplet, very powerful 🙏🙏
"Forgiveness is the fragrance that the Violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it."
- MARK TWAIN
Great quote!
I dont get it
I think Violet here means a flower, and the point is that stomping on this flower makes your foot smell nice, and in the same way the trespassed forgiving the trespasser can have a beautiful effect on the trespass itself.
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Thank you. Stay blessed☆
@@killianmiller6107
Thanks for your presence☆ God bless☆☆
I believe Bishop Robert Barron knows how to forgive all those nasty comments against him online. He’s someone who lives out his beliefs!
I hear you 😢. We as Christians do need to be forgiven.
I personally get alot from him. I think of the rose window. I get it. Thank God for him, as to others, I say just this, who are you to judge? Thank God, we have a priest who so believes and shares his faith.
I like that. Regardless who caused the harm - it ends here with me and it ends here with forgiveness.
God bless you BP. Barron.
Have mercy on Us sinners amen
I became Catholic 4 years ago, after 6 decades of life. I found out in RCIA that the concepts I had about Catholicism were so far away from what is the truth. You said that people are taking what they know of Christianity from headlines & caricatures. I believe that is what's happening. When I think of how I used to live, I feel sorry for anyone who will not open their minds to the truth.
This clip addressed two perhaps of my most fundamental issues with navigating my perception of the faith and navigating life day to day. I'm inept at forgiveness, and appreciate the value of understanding 'Forgiveness' on a fundamentally Christian level. Additionally - as a Catholic convert, raised in emotionally driven and contrare to reason Charismatic and Protestant Christianity, I was asked my entire childhood "Do you feel His Presence?" and "Do you believe in Jesus?" My intellectual answer would be "Yes, but I have questions of reason to the second one." And on the first question I would be moot, because I didn't actually feel emotionally what i was being asked all of the time.
This clip answers why i don't feel emotionally charged all of the time what I thought was the delimiting element of being a genuine believer in Christ, and due to the trauma that I and a countless multitude of us suffered as children being raised in an imperfect world (original sin, anyone? Who is to blame (Forgiveness..?)) - Due to that sense of injustice, I have been practically lost while not trying to be on the issue of forgiveness - And due to Brandon's and Bishop Barons articulation, am able to bracket the role of practicing Christianity (Y'all need to write Books on discerning the perception of emotions and navigating day to day decisions and life).
Praise the Lord, my Homies!
If God continually forgives me of the sins I’ve committed against him, how can I deny forgiveness to those who have wronged me?
To some degree that can make sense for most situations through my understanding that God is all knowing and new us before we were formed my understanding years god placed me in the care of a paedophile but will refuse to forgive me if I don't forgive and love them how can anyone love let alone for give a kid fucker sorry for the blunt words but how the person has an issue and seeks help before harming a child I would shake their hand and praise them for their efforts to save children from their potential future actions but once that act has been committed especially to that person's own children how are the children expected to forgive don't forgive and love the person their own parent potentially like in my case why do they deserve to burn in a fire because of God's viewing forgiveness as a debt this is how it sounds to me sorry for breaking your cup Chris it's ok Cathy I'll forgive you if you forgive Jennifer for killing your children forgive others if you want to be forgiven yourself does the proportion sound fair that's the problem I have with forgiveness I have two forever be fine and never angry with this person walking around with positive memories of my traumatic experience never to take issue with it again especially not confront them and it drives me insane has God ever been raped does he know the experience to comment you must forgive Jesus wasn't raped it would make for an interesting Bible story seeing him forgive that if I ever happened to him but he had a blessed protected childhood and I'm not going to say good for him he's lucky he had what I never had blah blah blah but commanding I love and forgive the person is disgusting it breaks me to my very core I'm never having children because if they got raped I would never love and forgive the abuser let alone now in my situation currently God will not forgive me until I'm able to forgive my father and it's disgusting god according to the Bible witnessed my trauma funny thing is I didn't even understand what that was until a few years later that's when the emotions truly hit my emotions are irrelevant love and forgive or else and that's my current grievance with God along with him in neighbouring the pain and suffering please look up the term in labelling because I get people that say god didn't cause this suffering which is why I use the term enabled
It is not easy to forgive someone try to kill you! But with God ‘s grace (with the fifteen years of prayer for forgive this person ). I have done that and I feel God ‘s tremendous love and mercy for me and also for the person that offense me.
Thank you Jesus! And Bishop Barron!
Think of what forgiveness cost Jesus. It will never cost me that much. Take the first step. Don’t wait for feelings. ❤ Thanks Bishop Barron
I don't have too much of a problem with "forgiving" but it's the subsequent relationship thats the issue. There are many people that I interact with (at work, family) that I have forgiven but afterwards I keep them at a distance. At first I thought it was because I didn't REALLY forgive them, but no, it's not that. I understand that everyone is on their own journey and doing their best, etc..... I think rather that it's because I am very careful with who I trust and confide in. And when someone "wrongs" me significantly, I keep a distance. I pray for them and forgive them. But the "close" relationship is lost. This has led to very few good friends. But I'm ok with that. I would feel like a fake otherwise.
I understand! I’ve been married into a really dysfunctional, narcissistic family. 36 yrs of pain. Took me all this time to understand the mental illness. I see them for what they are, and they can’t hurt me anymore…but boy, the residual side/effects of the last 3 decades…no contact helps. 😮😢
I learned something recently from the book The Power of Silence (pg 218) that taught me everything I need to know about forgiveness. My apologies if this is mentioned in the video. The quote is as follows:
Dysmas de Lassus: I would simply like to recall a story. One issue of the magazine Cahiers sur l'Oraison [Notebooks on Prayer] reports that before leaving for the gas chamber, a Jew wrote on a slip of paper: "Lord, remember also the men of ill will, but do not remember then their cruelties. Remember the fruits that we have borne because of what they did. And grant, Lord, that the fruits that we have borne may one day be their redemption."
*"Father forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing."*
- JESUS (Luke 23: 34) NRSV
Praying for us to own up to the fact , Jesus wanted us to follow him and say those exact words in intercession for our brothers and sisters and friends, and even our enemies. I struggle so much to live within the path of truth. God didn't want to make it easy, but that's ok.
My point is that if God sent his own Holy Son to die for me and He trusted ,in a sense ,I would follow , forgive and be another Jesus I should be honored and He will give me the ability to walk the walk.
I had struggled to reconcile with the Church as an entity in my efforts to return to Catholicism.
Ultimately I had an epiphany and realized I needed to forgive the Church its sins if I want forgiveness for my sins. Matthew 6:14.
I think discussions on this topic are always lacking when they don't touch on the topic of ongoing one-sided mistreatment. What does forgiveness look like when the other party is unrepentent and the injured party has every reason to believe that any 'reconciliation' would result in reinstating the cycle of abuse?
Love so much of what was said here. Really well thought out. Just would like to see this aspect addressed.
I am thinking the same thing. Abusive situations never seem to make it into these videos.
“Where you stumble, that is where you dig for treasure.” That helped to clarify so much of my personal frustration with myself and my continued failures and weaknesses that accompany me into the confessional frequently.
Thank you for bringing me here
Thank you for the reminder. We all have someone in our life we need to forgive and put it behind us, quit hanging onto the past because it will Not change. Pray as you said for our enemies and family. Have a blessed weekend. ❤
Dear Bishop Barron: Your Grace, What splendour there is in the eloquence which adorns your manifestation of what IS SO IMPORTANT in Being CHRISTIAN...
"FATHER, FORGIVE THEM, FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO"...imagine!!...from the agony of (on??)The Cross!!!
Thank You and God bless!
Thank you Bishop Baron for elaborating on this topic. Forgiveness is a habit not a feeling. If God in your most wretched state forgave your transgressions who are you but a mere mortal not to forgive. ✝️
Forgive us our trespasses As we forgive those who trespass against us! I pry daily when I pray The Lord Prayer 🙏 Amén ✝️
The Jesus prayer seems very popular now.
She is Protestant and Joyce Meyers a televangelist's ministry on forgiveness is compelling. I'm Orthodox and I love her for her preaching on forgiveness.
Well said bishop Barron..move forward
Thank you.
Thank you Bishop Barron. I would to see a video about forgiving oneself.
This was especially important to me. Letting go when it was so painful. My husband's family blamed me for my beloved's death. It was absolutely malevolent. It has been very difficult to forgive. I pray about it a lot...especially for my inability to let it completely go.
Thank you Bishop Barron 🙏❤️ God bless you always 🕊️✝️
love this so insightful and necessary for spiritual growth
"Let's move forward". This is what our present society needs. Thank You Bishop Barron
God, this is for me
@@LAFITZ10 ĺ.
A deep study of the Catechism revealed a sense of culpability in myself and others. As I became more self-aware of my own, I see it in others who are not self-aware. This culpability can only be judged by God, as some suffer from circumstances beyond their control or self-awareness. Knowing this allows passion to grow for others for their shortcomings, as I ask for forgiveness for my own. Talking about these things brings common knowledge, unity & forgiveness, we hope. God Bless, Your Excellency.
Thanks bishop Robert Barron - for going to the basics of christianity!
Thank you Bishop on your advice to forgive people
What a wisdom of words. This is exactly what i need
I took my sixth grade class of Faith Formation for Children through the Creed by Bishop Robert Barron. This series and the series on Catholicism kept their attention while they were logging in to our Zoom sessions. Thank you for letting me share this with the class. Without fail, they were spontaneously expressing their enthusiasm for having the opportunity to watch these inspiring series. Often, there were times some didn't seem to want it to end, they were so engrossed.
Thank you Bishop Barron for another thought provoking lesson. Lord Jesus Christ, son of the living God, have mercy on me, a sinner.
Amen
forgiveness is liberating.
Forgiveness is one of the hardest, commanded by Jesus.
Could only be done with the help of grace of God
@@johnkussmann4268 Hi, thanks for the replay...and even way harder than forgiveness is- reconciliation.
God bless Bishop Barron! Thank you God 🙏🙏
Thanks, Bishop Barron for teaching me about forgiveness 💪
Absolutely wonderful and a tremendous and very important teaching. Thank you Bishop Barron. God bless you.🙏
I recall, perhaps Father Dubay from Catholic Univ. of America, said the largest obstacle to spiritual growth and human flourishing is unforgiveness. This topic is much needed. Throughout Latin America I am persuaded that the demons and assaults on many of the countries comes from lack of forgiveness and inability to move forward in God's grace.
I used to be incredibly unforgiving before I woke up and realized that my relationship with Jesus was more important to me than my desire to stay mad. It is still hard because the devil loves to remind us of how wronged we were but at those times I try to focus on the acts that I need forgiveness for and I get over it ! Part of the problem is that we downplay our own sinfulness and forget that we are in dire need of forgiveness.
What an important and profound insight, that the purpose of Christianity is for the world, as salt that has not left its savor! And perhaps the true salt is forgiving even as also we have been forgiven. What a glorious goal in Christ to prayerfully strive for!
God bless Bishop Robert Baron have a great Wednesday
Thank You sincerely for all you do to help everyone become closer to God by understanding our faith….I really Loved your answer to the viewer’s question and find it ironic because I actually watched your video on Utube which you commented on the book of Job which was nothing less than phenomenal!!!! - Thanks again and God
Bless
We need to pray for all people with the scrumptious love of God!
Dear God come into our lives and take over!!
But if you do not forgive others their trespasses, God will not forgive you of your trespasses" -Matthew 6:15
Suppose it was mutially discussion and both sides offended the other. And one forgives but the other does not. The issues i have I forgive but I do not want to renew the friendship, I want after forgiving forgeting. Not worth it.
@@anairenemartinez165 trust is earned
I used to think I had to "feel" as if forgiveness happened or else it meant I was doing it wrong. Thank you Bishop Barron for the clarification. I needed to hear that on a day, when I needed to practice forgiveness. I am sure the Lord has a wonderful sense of humor, because your podcast popped up right before I had my encounter.
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Trima kasih bapak uskup Barron, saya mau berubah, Tuhan Yesus mampukan saya hidup dalam kedamaian.
Thank you Bishop for this lecture/sermon. I definitely needed to hear this. Also, our society needs to renew the practice of forgiveness. I know it is easier said than done.
Fantastic video! Thank you so much for posting.
Thank you for Words on Fire sharing Bishop Barron's reflections on forgiveness. Be assured that your reaching out beyond Catholicism to those of us who are outliers, listening what is going on inside values these words on fire. You offer not just personal salvation, but salvation beyond our narcissistic selves to, hopefully, the entire planet. Blessings.
"You're not a Christian for yourself, you're a Christian for the world."
Hi Bishop, thanks for playing and answering my question.
My own most annoying passage in Scripture is Matthew7 v21-3. If at the Pearly Gates Jesus were to say that to me I hope I'd have time to say well thanks for waiting till now to tell me I'm getting it all wrong, before the trapdoors open and I disappear down to the deepest pit of Hell.
Cheerz DECLAN
Oh my God...I can't believe how necessary this consideration, for me, is!!! I pray that steadfastness is ,my creed when approaching others, because sometimes it may become easy to revert back to the battle if the recipient is not ready to reconcile. God bless us all!!!
, This is the most informative talk I frequently need to listen to- realizing when I’m back to this again I missed something,or thought I had moved on. Thanks for your insights. Gods not finished with me yet.
God give us the grace to forgive...
Please replay later, at work and I really want to hear this!!!
Thanks team!!!
A very good talk about seeking forgiveness and how we know when we have done wrong. You are right. It's a moral judgement and obligation and not a feeling. It's so Important to have a sensitive conscience.
Definitely going to need this one with what I’m going through right now.
@@LAFITZ10 uhhh … wut ….
Thank you Bishop Barron and Brendan. This has helped me especially in your advice on what to do when the anger or hurt is still raw even though in my mind I have already forgiven that person. Pray! And do something, however small but do it! 😇🙏🔥God bless!
Yes, I agree, i have experienced that it actually works! Peace be with you
Great Presentation. Having God's perspective on all situations will help so much to move through the toughest of times. I so want my tombstone to say he was a man of forgiveness. God bless you for your guidence.
There’s someone in my past that I bless as my personal devotion to Jesus. And it may make you laugh but every once in a while I say, Lord bless him and keep him … far away from me. Sometimes that is the best I can do at that very minute. Our Lady helps us when we’re too tired.
Forgiveness….so much easier said than done. Thank you Bishop Baron for this episode. Very helpful and insightful direction towards reconciliation
Issues. Prayers for spiritual continual direction.
Forgive enemies, is to love love them..!
I'm watching this again. It has SO much wisdom. Also, the question from the English gent & your response. I too have always considered that God gave poor Job a "non answer"!
Mil gracias es un gozo escucharlos y aprender saludos cariñosos desde Cd de Mexico!
These episodes always seem so perfectly timed for me 🙏 Thank you Brandon and Bishop Barron.
Great advice and the deepest wisdom.... but now the tough part.... to practice... :-)
'Be angry and do not sin ' is from Paul about Jonah
Be angry but do not sin; do not let the sun go down on your anger, and do not make room for the devil.
ST. PAUL (Ephesians 4:26-27)
LEARNING SO MUCH KEN DAVIS
25:10 is something for me. I have trouble talking to most people I don’t know about things they have wronged me on.
Superb. Thank you!
Thank you for your honesty, Bishop Barron. God's reply to Job bugs me as well a bit.
This was awesome. Thank you Bishop Barron
I agree, so important to spend 2 shows on this…reconciliation …eye lashes 🙌🏻…great words bishop!
Thank you! Interesting facts on this huge topic. However, in my case, I disagree with "People forgive when they know they have been forgiven." There are different levels of offenses. People fractured me so deeply and what they took from me, can never be restored. Moreover, only looking and moving forward while healing from childhood trauma and being triggered on a daily basis is not really easy. In order to heal trauma, survivors need to go back and confront the past.
Enjoyed this..
Good message - thanks!
This episode helped me understand my self better. It helped me apply forgiveness to the deep, unseen corners of my life. Thank you, it was very cleansing.
And thank you for your prayers, they helped me learn a deeper meaning of forgiveness. God Bless! And keep up the good work. ❤
This is excellent. However, often it seems, that forgiveness is interpreted at tolerance. I forgive the lying, judgmental , murderous person, but they still continue their vices and think my forgiveness is quaint.
Sometimes you have to think that a tree gives sweet fruits and bitter fruits, so never take things personal
" I can forgive 😌" , father pray for me so I can devote my self to Mary pure heart.
My name is suhail ( su+ hail ) & I live in Dubai 💗💗💗
Suhail hope you dont mind me asking, are you an ex Muslim?
Holding a grudge is your problem. You draw energy from it.
Christ knew I needed to hear this. 🤩 tyvm
..waited a day to watch tbis...thank you...as usual..WoF!
Can we begin having more long form discussions? It looks like Bishop wanted to keep going for a moment but fell back on the format of the interview.
I feel like Jesus is carrying me on his shoulder when I hear these real men talk. Bishop is one of us.
🌻🌻🌻 Este mensaje es muy importante y útil. SERÍA UN DON!!! ❤ La traducción al español 👏👏 👏
18:41 Brilliant!
Although you presented this almost a year ago, I just recently watched/listened to it & was greatly impressed. Also, I forwarded it to my Twitter site, & just discovered today that there were 3 "likes" + comments by others on twitter who may not be Catholic, but very spiritual (from my observations of their posts) + 1 rather (!) political. The general tone was that you hit a vulnerable nerve & they were appreciative of your message. I too, agree. Thank you both, Mr. Vogt & Bishop Barron.
great Bishop Barron, please educate us!
Loved the explanation of the meaning of suffering as a function of forgiveness; it brought full tangible meaning to Christ’s Crucified .