EVERY Subclass In D&D's 2024 Player's Handbook REVEALED!👀

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  • Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
  • The Character Sheet is back with more Fantasy and TTRPG News as we bring you the huge reveal of EVERY. SINGLE. SUBCLASS. in the 2024 Players Handbook from Dungeons & Dragons! That's right, we are showing you all 48 new subclasses for D&D 2024, and breaking them down class by class, to show you what old favorites are coming back, and which subclasses have been left out in the cold when it comes to the D&D 2024 Players Handbook.
    So did your favorite D&D subclass make the cut? Find out right now as we break down every single new subclasses from the 2024 Player's Handbook from Dungeons & Dragons!
    0:00 Intro
    1:19 Barbarian
    2:02 Bard
    2:38 Cleric
    3:22 Druid
    4:07 Fighter
    4:39 Monk
    5:23 Paladin
    6:06 Ranger
    6:50 Rogue
    7:30 Sorcerer
    8:17 Warlock
    9:04 Wizard
    9:45 Missing Subclasses
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  • @matthemming9105
    @matthemming9105 14 днів тому +571

    Pour one out for the entire Artificer Class.

    • @TheCharacterSheet
      @TheCharacterSheet  14 днів тому +78

      To be fair, it was never really fully fleshed out. It just didn't work in a lot of fundamental ways

    • @lord-of-the-unfinished-project
      @lord-of-the-unfinished-project 14 днів тому +43

      It was also the only real class they added. So again saving it for another book.

    • @williameichenberg4632
      @williameichenberg4632 14 днів тому +32

      Keeping it out the PHB continues to keep it proprietary.

    • @SerifSansSerif
      @SerifSansSerif 14 днів тому +17

      ​​@@TheCharacterSheetit wasn't but the way 5e has been going they never really pushed to flesh out anything in more detail. Mystic never made it, the last UA had the pugilist that had to be shelved, and the artificer. All three rely on rules that were never given or written, and they never really intended to.
      Overall these are very, very full subclasses.

    • @andyenglish4303
      @andyenglish4303 14 днів тому +7

      @@williameichenberg4632 Nope... just keepping it out of the SRD is enough.

  • @hqueso
    @hqueso 14 днів тому +168

    OK, there is a misconception that seems to be so prevalent I need to post this in a general post rather than respond to individual posts as I had started to do. Per the official WotC video interview with Jeremy Crawford and Chris Perkins, all existing 2014 subclasses still exist and can be played alongside 2024-rules characters in 2024-rules campaign. Where there are new "improved" versions (like Beastmaster ranger) they recommend the new version, but if your favorite subclass isn't in the new PH, it can still be used with only minor adjustments for new rules (for example, you might want to rework your character to use the new Background rules. Or not- they both still result in usable characters).
    They do say that you probably shouldn't use the new 2024 character rules for a campaign still using the 2014 gameplay rules, as there are a few new situations the 2014 rules weren't intended to accommodate, but in that case, you'd be using your old subclasses anyway.

    • @TheTerrainWizard
      @TheTerrainWizard 14 днів тому +12

      Ahhh… so the publishers claimed D&D 5.5 would be backwards compatible, and yet it is not. Got it.

    • @Kimbrell
      @Kimbrell 14 днів тому +7

      @@TheTerrainWizard Not sure when they said that. Iirc they have said that 5e would be compatible with 5.5 but I do not remember a time where they said vice versa.

    • @Atherax
      @Atherax 13 днів тому +2

      @Kimbrell they dedicated at the start of one dnd that it would be 100% compatible with 5th edition, they have also stated this is an update on the rules and not a 5.5e meaning it is compatible but not completely it also is not a new edition of dnd and still uses most the core rules with additions to those rules and slight modifications.
      The phb is not overly compatible with the new phb, but the new phb is still fairly compatible with say the expanded core books (TCE, MotMV, XGE)

    • @ODDnanref
      @ODDnanref 13 днів тому +19

      ​​​@@TheTerrainWizard
      It is backwards compatible. Backwards compatible does not mean you can play 5e with 5.5e classes. It means you can play 5.5e with 5e classes.
      When your text editor software claims to be backwards compatible, it does not say you can open Word 2016 documents in 1998 Word. It means your 2016 Word can open 1998 Word documents. smh
      Just a single google search away into a Wikipedia article. You cannot get lower fruit hanging around.
      What you are describing is *Forward Compatibility* of 5e which they never claimed to do when they released 5e.

    • @lethalprophet
      @lethalprophet 13 днів тому

      But still . . . Transmutation Wizard - Gone. Hexblade Warlock - Gone. I quit....

  • @videogamefreered
    @videogamefreered 14 днів тому +127

    I am SHOCKED they left out the necromancer subclass, it’s such an iconic thing in just wizard lore in general, but it might be overhauled in the future

    • @LexyLexer
      @LexyLexer 14 днів тому

      Summons must fuck off

    • @Atherax
      @Atherax 13 днів тому +7

      They seem with a few of the changes and with moving to greyhawk they are trying to.push back to the players are good guys angle they wanted in 4th.
      My guess is they will come out with an evil character book similar to they did in 3.5e

    • @jurgen4466
      @jurgen4466 13 днів тому +5

      Its plain ignorant to have players play necromancer unless the party is evil.

    • @TheZplit
      @TheZplit 13 днів тому +23

      @@jurgen4466that just seems closeminded

    • @ryanharbin6787
      @ryanharbin6787 13 днів тому

      @@jurgen4466 you should be more creative. Maybe there is a good necromancer that raises the dead to solve crimes or use his/her army of the dead to help a nation being invaded

  • @mrtrex1869
    @mrtrex1869 12 днів тому +19

    Just so people know the classes didn’t “lose” subclasses. They very clearly stated in their video that you can still use all of the classes from the original books they just didn’t get a revamp like the ones in the 2024 book. These subclasses just replace their current predecessors. So if there’s a subclass in both “versions” you would use the one in the 2024 books if not you can totally use say the tempest domain for clerics out of the 2014 books but you would be using the rules and mechanics from the 2024 books. And they said there’s a specific section in the books on exactly how to do it.

    • @phillipmccollam7554
      @phillipmccollam7554 8 днів тому

      Sure, if you want play an unbalanced subclass that is surpassed by all the other subclasses that got a buff. Take the swashbuckler. They took the charismatic rogue and genericized it by letting all rogues benefit from a high charisma. Now all rogues can attack and dance away without fear of AO's. They took two of the swashbuckler's best features and gave watered down versions to every other rogue subclass with a net result of a weaker, outdated swashbuckler. But sure. Still play that.

  • @navidryanrouf441
    @navidryanrouf441 11 днів тому +16

    I like how wizards get "school of..", druids get "circle of...", paladins get "oath of..." but fighters just get "the..."

    • @EpicRandomness555
      @EpicRandomness555 9 днів тому

      Actually I believe that’s not true for Wizards anymore. Instead of School of Evocation it’s, Evocationist. Or Enchanter. Or Illusionist. Much shorter to say.

    • @Selvarin
      @Selvarin 8 днів тому

      @@EpicRandomness555 They chose to update those which had opposing forms: Divination vs Illusion, etc.

    • @Selvarin
      @Selvarin 8 днів тому

      And the terms would be Invoker and Evoker.

  • @teknogothyk
    @teknogothyk 14 днів тому +23

    So disappointed that Swashbuckler and Swords Bard didn't make it in.

    • @beerbatreps3861
      @beerbatreps3861 11 днів тому +3

      Fellow Swashbuckler fan here. It's top tier for gameplay and RP

    • @phillipmccollam7554
      @phillipmccollam7554 11 днів тому +3

      People needed their damned psychic knives, apparently. And psychic swords. And psychic patrons. Dungeons and Psychics, I suppose.

    • @teknogothyk
      @teknogothyk 11 днів тому +1

      @@phillipmccollam7554 And yet WotC couldn't be bothered to make an actual psionicist class

    • @EpicRandomness555
      @EpicRandomness555 9 днів тому

      I mean College of Valor is Swords but better

    • @teknogothyk
      @teknogothyk 9 днів тому +2

      @@EpicRandomness555 nah you got it reversed lol
      I can see the appeal both in all seriousness. I just prefer Swords.

  • @toranas1500
    @toranas1500 14 днів тому +25

    To be fair, a lot of those that didn't make the cut, like Wildfire and Spores druid or Oath of the Watchers Paladin, were not in the 2014 PHB. They were added in Tasha's, Xanathar's etc. Hexblade also just doesn't work anymore because any warlock can take pact of the blade. It would need to be completely reworked to address any redundancies.

    • @TheCharacterSheet
      @TheCharacterSheet  14 днів тому +2

      Yeah, only a few classes really lost out on the core, 2014 subclasses they once had

    • @pdegan2814
      @pdegan2814 14 днів тому +6

      Let's face it, the original 5E Hexblade wasn't much more than an attempt to "fix" the Bladelock, the lore behind it was a pretty vague mess. With the Bladelock now fixed, I hope this creates an opening in a future book to finally create an official version of the Raven Queen patron from an old UA, it was one of my favorite Warlocks I've ever played.

    • @Mortlupo
      @Mortlupo 13 днів тому

      Or eliminated as redundant.

    • @thatweebcunt9326
      @thatweebcunt9326 9 днів тому

      Any warlock already could take pact of the blade.

  • @Thoumint
    @Thoumint 14 днів тому +9

    I cant believe you forgot to mention storm sorcery not being involved! I remember being surprised when storm sorcery was added in baldurs gate because the subclass generally sucks and never gets any love. Then Baldur gate made it really fun. So I thought they would definitely include a revised version of it with the new book but I guess not.

  • @scrubyt2668
    @scrubyt2668 14 днів тому +10

    I'm so bummed out that the Echo Knight and the Sun Soul didn't make the cut, those are my all time fav subclasses

    • @Geraint3000
      @Geraint3000 13 днів тому +2

      Unless you're a DM - they're completely broken.

    • @scrubyt2668
      @scrubyt2668 13 днів тому

      @@Geraint3000 I disagree, nearly any Subclass in 5e can be broken if you build it with the intention to be broken, how strong a character combination is purely depends on the person playing it. Since I never build my characters or NPC's to power game or with the intention of dealing the most damage possible, the Echo Knight and Sun Soul have never posed a "broken" problem for anyone that has DM'd for me or that I've DM'd for. RP and flavor over combat and power is the best way to play imo

  • @criticalfail1176
    @criticalfail1176 14 днів тому +97

    So all classes and subclass are still viable in the new updated system, but if your subclass got an update you'd use the new one instead of the old subclass

    • @TheCharacterSheet
      @TheCharacterSheet  14 днів тому +24

      Well, sort of. Some classes are now missing the features that the old subclasses interacted with, but honestly a little homebrew can get you through most things!

    • @michaelcolon4162
      @michaelcolon4162 14 днів тому +1

      You can still use the old subclasses, feats, features if you want. But in some cases the new options are better. But still you can pick and choose whatever you want from 2014 & 2024.

    • @hqueso
      @hqueso 14 днів тому +2

      @@michaelcolon4162 a bit of a caveat- they recommend only using one or the other for a particular character. You should avoid taking Beastmaster levels 1,4 and 6 from the old PH and 2, 3 and 5 from the new. I'm not sure how I'd handle mixed multiclassing, but I suspect that new-rules Beastmaster/ old-rules Artificer would work fine, as long as each class is taken from one rules-set only.

    • @michaelcolon4162
      @michaelcolon4162 14 днів тому +2

      @@hqueso yes of course. You either choose 2014 or 2024 you cant go back and forth between leveling up. But I would even allow 2 gloomstalkers (one from 2014 rules and another from 2024) and i would see no problem. I personally would always use the new stuff just because. But i can see people not wanting to buy new books or learn new rules.

    • @hqueso
      @hqueso 14 днів тому

      @@michaelcolon4162 Exactly. I agree totally. The problem I do see is that if you don't want to go forward with the 2024 rules, completely new subclasses will have to be completely homebrewed/retooled if you stay on 2014 rules.
      Of course, that would also be true if they just came out with a new completely incompatible 6E. As someone who transitioned from AD&D -> 2E -> (basic Rules Cyclopedia) -> 3.5 -> 4E -> 5E, the option to not have the whole base system ripped from under me is welcome.

  • @woj_kal
    @woj_kal 14 днів тому +22

    Thank you for listening all the subclasses and not just talking about them

  • @kermokell4120
    @kermokell4120 14 днів тому +18

    it feels like there is a heavy psychic theme (soulknife, psi warrior, aberrant mind and the old one)

    • @WilliamBoccato
      @WilliamBoccato 14 днів тому +1

      They said in the UA-cam video about the new PHB that they wanted to add more of the psy subclasses, so yeah you are right on that!

    • @pdegan2814
      @pdegan2814 14 днів тому +8

      The Great Old One and Aberrant Mind were selected early on in the process. Originally the Fighter was going to have the new Brawler subclass and the Rogue would get the Swashbuckler. When the Brawler didn't make the cut in the surveys they had to make a new choice for the Fighter. That's when they chose to promote the Psi Warrior, and then swapped the Swashbuckler for the Soulknife to complete the psionic set. It's a shame, the updated Swashbuckler was pretty cool. I imagine it'll be one of the first to get updated in future 2024-era books.

    • @williambradford6575
      @williambradford6575 12 днів тому +1

      @@pdegan2814 only one missing from the psionic subclassses is the College of Whispers Bard

    • @Manahyde
      @Manahyde 12 днів тому

      Dark Sun confirmed

  • @skylandry4059
    @skylandry4059 9 днів тому +5

    College of dance is something I been begging for years

  • @DarkfireEquinox
    @DarkfireEquinox 13 днів тому +5

    RIP divine soul sorcerer, gotta be my favorite subclass

  • @berimotivated485
    @berimotivated485 14 днів тому +43

    RIP Tempest Domain and Storm Sorcerer, here’s hoping a lot of our cut faves get revamps in later books

    • @pdegan2814
      @pdegan2814 14 днів тому +2

      Yeah, I feel like there should have been a place for both of those, hopefully they'll get updates pretty quickly.

    • @leodouskyron5671
      @leodouskyron5671 14 днів тому +6

      Still 5th edition so you can still use them.

    • @cschneidersurf1841
      @cschneidersurf1841 14 днів тому

      Tempest Domain was my character in a home campaign😭 literally in tears

    • @flamerdorefan7771
      @flamerdorefan7771 13 днів тому +1

      Well, D&D One is an upgraded 5th ed and backwards compatible, so you can use them. The fact that they are not in this book means they just don't have any updates

    • @ODDnanref
      @ODDnanref 13 днів тому +1

      ​@@pdegan2814
      2014 PHB had way too many wizards and clerics compared to other classes.
      They made an effort to keep subclasses in the same amount of choices in the 2024 PHB. So probably you'll get them in other books, as long as this new 2024 does well.

  • @frankpari733
    @frankpari733 13 днів тому +4

    Shocked the hexblade was left out considering it's one of the most popular warlock subclasses

  • @SummerOtaku
    @SummerOtaku 14 днів тому +13

    Looks like the only ones I’d really miss so far are swarmkeeper and swashbuckler

    • @meikahidenori
      @meikahidenori 12 днів тому

      Those and artificers for me. I have so many good characters in these 5 classes alone!

  • @crikeybaguette4564
    @crikeybaguette4564 14 днів тому +28

    The Oathbtraker paladin not being in the PHB makes sense. It will likely be in the DMG like in 2014.

    • @TheDude4515
      @TheDude4515 13 днів тому +7

      could also see it making it into a book of vile darkness with other subclasses like necromancer, death domain, and other 'evil' subclasses.

    • @corbanbausch9049
      @corbanbausch9049 11 днів тому +2

      @@TheDude4515 that’s my thought. There is not a single “bad” or death-related subclass here. I’m guessing they are going to release them all in one death-themed book.

  • @lunatickgeo
    @lunatickgeo 14 днів тому +17

    I was hoping for a plant-themed druid circle. (yes I want to play Poison Ivy, wouldn't you?)

    • @TheCharacterSheet
      @TheCharacterSheet  14 днів тому +11

      Honestly, that is kind of a huge oversight from WotC that has sort of always existed, isn't it?

    • @lunatickgeo
      @lunatickgeo 14 днів тому +7

      @@TheCharacterSheet yeah, which is weird when they have dryads and shambling mounds and treants that they can interact with
      they had a spores druid, a stars druid, a _dream_ druid but no plant druid?

    • @Arcahnslight
      @Arcahnslight 14 днів тому +2

      Damn, I had hopes for a thorn whip, thorns, and entangle build synergizing with these new masteries. Ah well.

    • @fragile4408
      @fragile4408 13 днів тому +2

      ​@@lunatickgeowhy do they have such an aversion to flora? No plant based races. Now the most plant based build for the game is like World Tree Barbarian.
      It's just so bizzare.

    • @williambradford6575
      @williambradford6575 12 днів тому +1

      Circle of the Land has you covered

  • @declanmorden
    @declanmorden 14 днів тому +6

    Wizards definitey got the short end of the stick with the subclass flavors still revolving around the schools o fmagic but only 4 being included. I still firmly believe that the subclasses should have been school specialist as one whee you would choose a school to specialize in and then 3 others.

  • @snobgoblinDK
    @snobgoblinDK 14 днів тому +28

    "Warrior of Mercy" lol

    • @alexplayer8367
      @alexplayer8367 14 днів тому +3

      haven't you heard about Thorfinn? He's not a monk tho

    • @pdegan2814
      @pdegan2814 14 днів тому +8

      Yeah, calling them all "Warrior of" now isn't my favorite thing, but I'm pleased to see the Way Of Mercy get promoted to the PHB, it's a really interesting subclass. I can't wait to see how it's been tweaked for the 2024 PHB

    • @cueball6969
      @cueball6969 13 днів тому

      ​@@pdegan2814I've just started playing one multiclassed with druid, and yea, it's pretty cool
      I like the necromancer-esque feel the subclass has

    • @davidbodor1762
      @davidbodor1762 12 днів тому

      Reminds me of the 'warrior of peace' line from the Owl House. Unfortunately here it's not followed up by a - "Now, eat this sucker!"

  • @ArtsAndTactics
    @ArtsAndTactics 14 днів тому +150

    Do NOT hate on my Bladesinger!!!!!

    • @christopherravlin6051
      @christopherravlin6051 14 днів тому +5

      hate hate hate

    • @nomi4272
      @nomi4272 14 днів тому +18

      There’s some people who hates bladesinger ???? Why ? That’s one of the most fun subclass to play

    • @Trumpeter42
      @Trumpeter42 14 днів тому +3

      I'm playing a Bladesinger in my current campaign, too! So strong, man.

    • @someusername9591
      @someusername9591 14 днів тому +2

      @@nomi4272 I think it's because it's kind of like the best martial. Or was, HOPEFULLY.

    • @Adamgajski
      @Adamgajski 14 днів тому +1

      Bladesinger should have been the swords bard. >.>

  • @JoshuaJones_solarisdevorak
    @JoshuaJones_solarisdevorak 14 днів тому +14

    I think it's also important to note that Jeremy and Chris said that some of the subclasses while are the ones from 2014 they have gotten such an overhaul that they might as well be new

    • @TheCharacterSheet
      @TheCharacterSheet  14 днів тому +4

      Yes, very true!

    • @pdegan2814
      @pdegan2814 14 днів тому +4

      The Elements Monk fits this description, the new version is MUCH better. The new Archfey Warlock is also totally overhauled.

  • @malthael9225
    @malthael9225 12 днів тому +4

    They did the Warlock so dirty

  • @Knight_Marshal
    @Knight_Marshal 14 днів тому +15

    They should have gotten rid of the school based subclasses in favor of if the others.
    I want my magic book wizard updated.

    • @vederianl9723
      @vederianl9723 12 днів тому +2

      Do you mean Order of Scribes? One of the best wizard subclasses? Sounds to me like they wanted to concentrate on updating the older.weaker subclasses first.

  • @theultrasceptile
    @theultrasceptile 13 днів тому +3

    Definitely intrigued on how the new four elements subclass will look, despite the heat for it, it is one of my favorite subclasses for monks

  • @onima1753
    @onima1753 14 днів тому +9

    What about the Twilight domain Cleric?

  • @shamurai7
    @shamurai7 14 днів тому +27

    They did the wizard dirty

    • @EpicRandomness555
      @EpicRandomness555 9 днів тому

      It’s not fair for the wizard and cleric to have more subclasses than everyone else

  • @MountainManMinute
    @MountainManMinute 13 днів тому +2

    Thank you for actually showing the list of subclasses in the new PB. It will help me decide if this new stuff is worth spending the money on immediately.
    I must admit without the Necromancer subclass I probably will not rush and buy the book. I have a feeling they are wanting to get preachy with their own beliefs by dropping things that would not match them, instead of selling a product that will allow others to decide. Example: I will still use race instead of species to describe characters and NPCs.

    • @Selvarin
      @Selvarin 12 днів тому +1

      More along the lines of a reshuffle to garner more $$ when they provide a PHB II supplement.

  • @darkflmmstr
    @darkflmmstr 11 днів тому +3

    WotC gonna be milking those supplement books for all the extra subclasses that already existed

  • @randallgpreston
    @randallgpreston 14 днів тому +9

    I'm surprised that they left out the artificer.

    • @Mortlupo
      @Mortlupo 13 днів тому

      I'm not, it wasn't in the 2014 PHB.

    • @meikahidenori
      @meikahidenori 12 днів тому +2

      ​​​@@Mortlupowe know why they won't. They don't want to have it in the OSR. Still sucks as there are TWO settings that HAVE them as a main class which sounds rather dumb not to include them in the base PHB - especially an alchemist which fits in EVERY setting.
      Just annoyed as all the settings I play in Artificers are main stays or pretty important. Would be nice to have an updated alchemist at least

    • @enso8379
      @enso8379 8 днів тому

      The class is heavily tied to the Eberron setting and they probably didn't want to have to get into potential copywrite issues with Keith Baker is my guess.

    • @randallgpreston
      @randallgpreston 8 днів тому

      @@enso8379 except they reprinted it in Tasha's and added an extra subclass. Almost everything in Tasha's is going in the new phb

    • @enso8379
      @enso8379 8 днів тому

      @@randallgpreston Except that agreement probably extended to the one publishment. Just because Keith signs a contract for one book doesn't mean he's going to do it for every subsequent release. As a business I can totally see them not wanting to pay out money for the rights to publish a class when they don't have to strictly speaking. They'll just point to the conversion table and say if you want it then import it yourself.

  • @vinnybonboot
    @vinnybonboot 14 днів тому +14

    I know a lot of people where assuming/hoping this would be a 6th edition, but WotC has been very clear since OneD&D's announcement that the 2024 PHB was always supposed to be backwards compatible with the whole of 5e. The official description on D&DBeyond even refers to the 2024 PHB as, "the new and improved guide for *fifth edition* Dungeons & Dragons." So with that in mind, I think it's perfectly fair to view the new rules and subclasses essentially like the Optional Class Features introduced in Tasha's Cauldron of Everything. And with some homebrew (which I love to do anyway), I think all subclasses new and old can be perfectly useable with 2024 PHB.

    • @TheTerrainWizard
      @TheTerrainWizard 14 днів тому +3

      And those words from the publishers/architects/stewards of D&D are sitting upon a throne of lies.

    • @THEGRUMPTRUCK
      @THEGRUMPTRUCK 13 днів тому +1

      ​@TheTerrainWizard The unfortunate thing is people are going to lap this up and the past transgressions of WotC are going to be ignored, and WotC is BANKING upon that very thing happening. They'll try this OGL stuff again in a few gears, they'll try all the deceptive shit they do every few years and one of these days they'll win because a majority of the player base allowed it, since WotC always "plays nice" and gives people one book that has all the stuff they wanted.

    • @steveaustin2686
      @steveaustin2686 13 днів тому

      With the significant changes and combat needing to use the new rules with any of the new subclasses, this appears to be 6e.

    • @ODDnanref
      @ODDnanref 13 днів тому +1

      @@steveaustin2686
      Yeah, this feels more like a backwards compatible new edition.

  • @dalestein105
    @dalestein105 14 днів тому +4

    They need to hurry and add a new version of the Hexblade!

  • @DanRobotMan
    @DanRobotMan 14 днів тому +3

    I'm not surprised that my Cleric's Divine Domain (knowledge) got dropped. But I am a weee bit sad about it. Hopefully my DM and I can homebrew something.

  • @zaccline7143
    @zaccline7143 14 днів тому +34

    Cutting Hexblade is gonna stir the waters

    • @aubreyalexander3894
      @aubreyalexander3894 14 днів тому +9

      It’s not like it won’t be coming back. It’ll just be in a different sourcebook.

    • @johnpaullogan1365
      @johnpaullogan1365 14 днів тому +7

      watch them give armor and cha to attacks in base warlock

    • @MatthewBlachut-nr9bg
      @MatthewBlachut-nr9bg 14 днів тому +18

      In UA 7 they baked in the Hexblade feature allowing for weapon attacks using Charisma into the Pact of the Blade. If that sticks, nobody will bat an eye at losing Hexblade.

    • @insertname5371
      @insertname5371 14 днів тому +5

      Hexblade is built into the class now.

    • @lukorama10
      @lukorama10 14 днів тому +7

      1 - warlocks can have a hexblade-esque feature baked in
      2 - nothing was cut, you can use everything released for 5th edition with these new rules

  • @riccardoaimo6990
    @riccardoaimo6990 14 днів тому +1

    thx for the news now i know what i need to do

  • @zephyrscythe3743
    @zephyrscythe3743 13 днів тому

    Learned DnD with 3.5 about 20 years ago. First prestige class I played was Arcane Archer! It feels iconic to me but also I've always felt like, for 5e specifically, it would be better as a Ranger subclass.

  • @krezon3138
    @krezon3138 14 днів тому +15

    Crazy how there are no necrotic/undead themed subclasses for full casters. Hope we get a few in the near future.

    • @TheCharacterSheet
      @TheCharacterSheet  14 днів тому +8

      Thats a good point, they really did back off on all the undead stuff

    • @hqueso
      @hqueso 14 днів тому +2

      They just didn't update them. The old ones are still playable in the new rules. But I guess new players won't know about those if all they have is PH24, so it still seems a tad odd to have no undead representation.

    • @FrankDrebbin-de3te
      @FrankDrebbin-de3te 14 днів тому +2

      No Conjurers either.
      They're probably trying to reign in the action economy.

    • @jurgen4466
      @jurgen4466 13 днів тому +1

      Why is that crazy?
      A necromancer hardly fit in most groups being in most cases evil.

    • @welersoncarvalho2471
      @welersoncarvalho2471 13 днів тому

      ​@@jurgen4466Nah reusing bodies is not that evil, it could even be considered good, its very nature friendly 😂 certainly killing beasts of the forest is way more evil and characters do that all the time

  • @andyenglish4303
    @andyenglish4303 14 днів тому +6

    I'm honestly surprised they brought forward 4 spell schhol wizard classes instead of others like war, bladesinger and chronurgy

    • @jurgen4466
      @jurgen4466 13 днів тому

      You can still play both of them

    • @ODDnanref
      @ODDnanref 13 днів тому

      @@jurgen4466
      Yeah, but the school wizards should be more streamlined. They already feel samey at early levels

  • @Yoshwayy
    @Yoshwayy 7 днів тому +2

    Me, who has circle of Spores, Rune Knight, and Knowledge Cleric characters I can no longer use….

  • @monsteralta
    @monsteralta 14 днів тому +2

    So the hexblade idea totally moved to merged with pact of the blade?

  • @paulsavas2394
    @paulsavas2394 13 днів тому +1

    So…”backwards compatible” does that mean the subclasses NOT in the ‘24 book remain choices in DnDBeyond, or are they gonna be gone? Will I be able to select 2014 rules and not 2024 rules, or do all the subclasses in the ‘24 rules auto update?

  • @DParkerNunya
    @DParkerNunya 14 днів тому +1

    "The 2024 classes have to be used with the 2024 rulesets"
    1st rule of DnD: The DM decides what the rules are. If you want to use one of these in a 2014 ruleset, you can. It will need some minor tweaks (looking at you, weapon properties and masteries), but it should be fine.

  • @dragonicdoom3772
    @dragonicdoom3772 14 днів тому +3

    I'm not too sad about seeing certain subclasses get cut since I'm sure they'll get reintroduced in future books. Although if the idea was to have the subclasses contrast one another it's odd that they included Shadow Monk but not Sun Soul. Maybe they're still trying to figure out how to make it good

    • @dealbreakerc
      @dealbreakerc 14 днів тому +1

      They aren't cut. They just aren't reprinting them in the new books. Nothing will stop you from playing a tempest cleric or an enchantment wizard

    • @TheTerrainWizard
      @TheTerrainWizard 14 днів тому

      @@dealbreakerc…and the publisher has stopped publishing books. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Cpt.Str4ng3
    @Cpt.Str4ng3 14 днів тому +12

    *angry tempest noises*

    • @andyenglish4303
      @andyenglish4303 14 днів тому +1

      You can probably still use it just move the Domain to 3rd

    • @Cpt.Str4ng3
      @Cpt.Str4ng3 14 днів тому

      @@andyenglish4303 i. what? 3rd?

    • @laughingpanda4395
      @laughingpanda4395 14 днів тому +1

      ​@@Cpt.Str4ng3nothing stopping you from using 2014 classes. 5.5 is backward compatible.

  • @leodouskyron5671
    @leodouskyron5671 14 днів тому

    The other books in 5e are STILL USABLE. You still can use all of them as most of them were already set to be used. Only the things that are covered are changed. So the Aasimar in the 2024 5e book now overrides the ones in the 2014 DMG and Mordinkainen’s versions. For subclasses that had not been updated, only change is subclass selection just moved to 3rd level.
    Also, Soul Knife is an infiltration/skills sub class. And the aberrant mind is like to the Illithids so you are linked to the far realm.

  • @briandixon9140
    @briandixon9140 14 днів тому +4

    Fingers crossed for Valor Bard being usable compared to the "old" Swords Bard.

    • @jurgen4466
      @jurgen4466 13 днів тому

      You can still play sword bard

    • @briandixon9140
      @briandixon9140 13 днів тому

      @jurgen4466 i know, buy i am tired of playing Swords Bards. I want a viable 2nd option for a gish type of build. Valor Bard has the potential for that with STR builds using Two-Handed weapons or for a Sword and Board style of fighter. But the features are laking on it outside Martial Weapons, Medium Armor and Shields at 3, and Extra Attack at 6. It doesn't help Tasha's returned ALL Bards to have the "special" feature for Inspiration that was unique to Valor Bards.

  • @justanothergiblefan282
    @justanothergiblefan282 13 днів тому +1

    Listen I know that tge circle of dreams fans are a very small group of people but i still feel like having a healing based Druid in there would’ve made sense

  • @TheNoMoreGamer
    @TheNoMoreGamer 13 днів тому +1

    Hooray, I can’t wait for them to resell these sub classes with minimal changes in full price books they drip feed us over the next decade!!!!

  • @mopple2780
    @mopple2780 9 днів тому

    what a great F****** video. perfectly concise and clear with those chapter markers. i will be saving this and showing SO MANY players as they make characters

  • @sakuratejina
    @sakuratejina 8 днів тому +1

    Sad shadow sorcerer didn’t get an update. I’ve been wanting that one to be fixed since Tasha’s tried to fix Ranger.

  • @MichaelStanisci
    @MichaelStanisci 13 днів тому

    Excited to see if they do more with Rangers and Monks now

  • @DannyPotato
    @DannyPotato 13 днів тому +1

    I wonder if they’ll make a follow-up with the rest of the staple subclasses. No storm stuff? Half of the wizard is outdated? Got to be some room for more work.

  • @robhiro
    @robhiro 13 днів тому +1

    Seems strange to leave the spores druid behind. I would've taken that over the new sea druid. Something to took forward to, I guess

  • @FrancescoStella-mz2nb
    @FrancescoStella-mz2nb 12 днів тому +1

    nobody will prevent me from using my thunder domain cleric

  • @DANTVSVERGIL
    @DANTVSVERGIL 12 днів тому

    College of Dance = A Better Monk than the actual Monk class. I’m sooooooo glad they’re keeping that /s
    Who knows, maybe they made changes to it, but last time it wasn’t even Dex based, it was all Charisma based. Their Unarmored Defense was 10+Dex+Cha. Their unarmed strikes started off like the Monk’s (with a d6) but instead of Dex, you could use your Charisma, their unarmed strikes scaled with their Bardic Inspiration die, which scaled the exact same way as the Monk’s Martial Arts die, so both would cap out at d12s. They got a MUCH better version of Evasion a level earlier. The Dance Bard’s version of Evasion allowed them to give any ally within 5 ft of the Bard the benefits of Evasion as well, plus they got it at level 6 as opposed to Level 7 like the Monk. All of this on top of the fact that they can still cast their Bard spells, and if the Bard’s capstone is still the same, then they can also essentially twin cast Power Word: Kill or Power Word: Heal
    Edit: Hopefully Warrior of the Four Elements isn’t complete dogshit like it was last time. Last time they just took Way of the Ascendant Dragon and Way of the Astral Self and mashed them together and said “eh, good enough.”

  • @Logan-ef8hq
    @Logan-ef8hq 11 днів тому

    Would have been cool to see a modern interpretation of the swashbuckler. Hopefully we see some.of these cut subclasses updated in a later book

  • @alessandrosalomoni3213
    @alessandrosalomoni3213 13 днів тому

    What do you think is going to happen to 5e tools with this new version? Like are they just not gonna do anything about it, add the new rules to the old ones or create an entirely new page?

  • @TVMAN1997
    @TVMAN1997 13 днів тому

    They did say 5e characters are forward compatible when it comes to phb 2024 rulings so I am happy about that. Cause I love my clerics

  • @electric_boogaloo2114
    @electric_boogaloo2114 14 днів тому +3

    Yeah, Bladesinger is a problematic child here. It's very strong, makes you feel as a superhero when playing it, but it's a problem for the DM to balance any encounter with one unteachable full-caster. Ad Silvery Barbs and you can't do anything to them without depleting their spellslots, and before that happens every other character is already spent.

    • @CL-jq1xs
      @CL-jq1xs 14 днів тому +1

      Bladesinger is fine considering the power level of some other subclasses. It is good but not good to a point where it trivializes encounters like chronurgy wizard.

  • @JohnvanCapel
    @JohnvanCapel 13 днів тому +1

    I was really hoping for the Wizard to break away from "Specialize in a specific school of magic" for at least one PHB subclass. I want my generalist wizard, damnit!

  • @yasch3696
    @yasch3696 14 днів тому +2

    Great they`re adjusting some stuff here. As there is still most of the base existing I`m sure people that already have the physical books or online versions im sure you only have to pay like 10-15 bucks to get access to this updated version right? Right?!?!??!?!?!?

    • @TheCharacterSheet
      @TheCharacterSheet  14 днів тому +1

      Just in time for no more Ala Carte purchases on D&D Beyond too. Womp Womp

  • @TeaganBAllen
    @TeaganBAllen 11 днів тому

    Ive always wanted a bard subclass focused on dance!

  • @smolfucca6929
    @smolfucca6929 День тому

    The only exclusion that I’m actually sad about is the Hexblade, I loved playing that subclass

  • @killerchansey4938
    @killerchansey4938 14 днів тому +1

    Gosh they traded out a necroamctic theme for the psionic theme. I really wanted to see what they were gonna do with Necromancy Wizard specifically after they mentioned it previously. Guess we'll have to pay more money for them to rerelease it

  • @weirdo1060
    @weirdo1060 13 днів тому +2

    Is it me or is there a Baldur’s Gate 3 theme going on here?
    All the subclasses are in BG3 with an extra for good measure.

    • @corbanbausch9049
      @corbanbausch9049 11 днів тому +2

      Probably because BG3 was likely privy to the play tests for this and therefore used “5.5e” stuff

  • @XanderHarris1023
    @XanderHarris1023 14 днів тому +5

    With the changes to the Warlock class, especially Pact of the Blade (assuming most of the UA changes made it) Hexblade is almost redundant and unnecessary.

    • @Kokosnuss
      @Kokosnuss 12 днів тому +1

      Hexblade's Curse is missing and ... ALL it's other features that come with higher levels. Just ???

  • @masterrhyno
    @masterrhyno 12 днів тому +1

    They are gonna do a dark theme add on and an addon specifically for the sword based subclasses for casters arent they, swashbuckler probably would be in it too

  • @tylerford5720
    @tylerford5720 12 днів тому +1

    I still think they should split demon and devil into 2 unique pacts cuz they’re so different

  • @stormriderrs
    @stormriderrs 14 днів тому +22

    Keeping Trickery and taking Tempest away… already hate this so much.

    • @stormriderrs
      @stormriderrs 14 днів тому +8

      Also no rune knight… they are going insane! Hopefully they will add both soon…

    • @stormriderrs
      @stormriderrs 14 днів тому +7

      No swashbuckler! What are they thinking? So many good flavour subclasses out!

    • @stormriderrs
      @stormriderrs 14 днів тому +3

      No Hexblade… I’m not gonna be playing this apparently…

    • @TheCharacterSheet
      @TheCharacterSheet  14 днів тому +7

      Yeah, we suspect those will be back in some form in a new release down the road, but Tempest and Rune Knight were 2 of our favorites as well!

    • @andyenglish4303
      @andyenglish4303 14 днів тому +5

      You can still play them, just move all Domain features from early levels to 3

  • @Psynister_PBP
    @Psynister_PBP 12 днів тому

    2024 is meant to be used alongside 2014, so no class lost any subclasses at all, there just aren't updated versions of them printed in this book.

  • @theREALfearsKLOWNs
    @theREALfearsKLOWNs 14 днів тому +2

    Im so excited to have to re buy all of those [as yet unreleased] books just to be able to use favored subclasses again!
    Keep pushing that profit margin, Wizards! 😃👍

    • @hqueso
      @hqueso 14 днів тому

      Nope- per WotC's own video about the new books, all the existing 2014 versions are viable and can be played alongside 2024-rules characters in a 2024-rules campaign. (edited as I got pissy and that was totally uncalled for).

    • @theREALfearsKLOWNs
      @theREALfearsKLOWNs 14 днів тому +1

      @@hqueso Than you missed the part in the video where he said old subclasses aren't compatible with new class rules. You can play with them, yes; but only if you use the old class rulings. That isn't exactly "compatible."
      Also, as a 25+ year consumer of WotC's products I am fully validated, using a platform that is *free to the public*, to critique these products (which I actively purchase) as I see fit.
      Thanks for your input tho. 👍

  • @gsan6234
    @gsan6234 13 днів тому +1

    Mentioning psionic subclasses sounded like an affront 😂

  • @jensuttorp5266
    @jensuttorp5266 14 днів тому

    Wow… I’m surprised at some of the subclasses that didn’t make the cut for 2024. Not sure I’m thrilled about that.

  • @rc7771
    @rc7771 14 днів тому +1

    Maybe the new DMG will have guidelines for creating/modifying classes and subclasses.

    • @TheCharacterSheet
      @TheCharacterSheet  14 днів тому +1

      Yeah, we will actually dive into just how backwards compatible everything is in our video tomorrow, and clear up some misconceptions!

  • @kelliedoherty6563
    @kelliedoherty6563 14 днів тому

    Aww, the wildfire druid and the spore druid were so cool!! I wonder why they didn’t make the cut…

  • @davrosdavros7198
    @davrosdavros7198 14 днів тому +13

    Wonder why they removed necromancy. 2 weak?

    • @TheCharacterSheet
      @TheCharacterSheet  14 днів тому +6

      Yeah, it was kind of pointless in 5e. But we imagine it will come back strongers somewhere down the line

    • @michaelcolon4162
      @michaelcolon4162 14 днів тому +1

      They said they removed it because it was one of the least used subclasses in the game.

    • @JKSSubstandard
      @JKSSubstandard 14 днів тому +2

      Keep in mind.... Not removed. Just not reworked for release in the first book

    • @michaelcolon4162
      @michaelcolon4162 14 днів тому +1

      @@JKSSubstandard exactly you can still play a necromancer with the new or reworked subclasses in the PHB 2024.

    • @pdegan2814
      @pdegan2814 14 днів тому +1

      They said in a previous video that when they were choosing the four subclasses for each class, they wanted to come up with a set that would hit four different corners of the class' theme. My guess is with the Wizard they went offense/defense(Evoker/Abjurer), and truth/lies(Diviner/Illusionist).

  • @popularopinion1
    @popularopinion1 14 днів тому +1

    REALLY hope they don't ruin my gloom stalker, and I was hoping for an update to the inquisitive

  • @joriswegner8421
    @joriswegner8421 8 днів тому

    I really like that they put in soulknife but at the same time I really hate that they cut hexblade and echo knight

  • @novaenforcer1563
    @novaenforcer1563 12 днів тому

    Hipe eldeitch knight has a new source for their powe just for the roleplay aspect

  • @pkmachinegun
    @pkmachinegun 13 днів тому +1

    I don’t think the statement at the end of the video is true. They specifically said in the interview that DDB posted on UA-cam that your 2014 characters can be properly handled by the 2024 rule book but the 2024 characters cannot be handled by the 2014 rule book. You should be able to play your old subclasses in a new rule book game.

  • @AkselGAL
    @AkselGAL 11 днів тому

    5E Paladin to prevent the 50+% smite damage reduction and bonus action murder with multiclassing into 5.5E Warrior/Warlock will be a thing!

  • @mythno394
    @mythno394 13 днів тому +1

    So far the book seems like theyre reselling us alot of the same stuff. If we have to pay for remastered subclasses because the old ones that didnt make the cut arnt compatible with the new book then hopefully they come with many more new options.

  • @Abelhawk
    @Abelhawk 12 днів тому

    I’m very surprised they did. Clockwork Sorcerer instead of Storm. Especially after taking out Tempest Clerics.

  • @jrallen175
    @jrallen175 13 днів тому +1

    Why would include guns in the PHb but not Artificers?

  • @blackmark2899
    @blackmark2899 9 днів тому +1

    Yeah no, you can definitely use older subclasses with the 2024 ruleset. You'll need to tweak a few things in creation but but as far as abilities and usability, they are perfectly valid.

  • @harold2003
    @harold2003 14 днів тому

    very surprised at the deep cuts in a few classes.

  • @marcbennett9232
    @marcbennett9232 13 днів тому

    im going to miss the tempest cleric. one of my faves

  • @-Plot-
    @-Plot- 13 днів тому +1

    So they cut a good number of the subclasses?

  • @valentijnbarendse9044
    @valentijnbarendse9044 4 дні тому

    So happy abberent mind is in it

  • @leonlachance8410
    @leonlachance8410 14 днів тому +1

    This video did not even mention Horizon Walker being excluded. The ultimate exclusion.

  • @mitchminteer317
    @mitchminteer317 11 днів тому +1

    So this isn't a new edition like a 6e, it's more of a redux to get people to buy more books right?

  • @5-Volt
    @5-Volt 14 днів тому +2

    RIP Swashbuckler...

  • @ne0w01f3
    @ne0w01f3 14 днів тому +2

    day one of release someone is going to remake new classes for the new system. and im here for it.
    Give me back my Drakewarden dammit

  • @HanmaHeiro
    @HanmaHeiro 11 днів тому

    I wonder how I could use an astral self monk in 6e

  • @murphythelatecomer4608
    @murphythelatecomer4608 14 днів тому

    I’d say about half of the subclasses I’ve played with were cut from the new book. Eh, you win some, lose some. Kind of bummed about the exclusion of the Swashbuckler, though. 🙁

    • @saqwana25
      @saqwana25 14 днів тому

      so you can still use it as far as i know is basically if it wasn't given a new ruling you use the old one.

  • @isaacgraff8288
    @isaacgraff8288 13 днів тому

    I am curious to see what comes from this, but more and more the other party TTRPGs are appealing more and more than D&D

  • @michaelfitzgerald9166
    @michaelfitzgerald9166 9 днів тому +1

    They should never get rid of subclasses because there are many different paths that a character can follow. Just rework the old to function with the new😊

    • @Dragonage2ftw
      @Dragonage2ftw 4 дні тому

      They didn’t.
      You can still use the old ones.

  • @nycto5335
    @nycto5335 12 днів тому

    Man, hope Astral Self Monk gets a 2024 version. Would love to see a new version of that.
    Worried about Zealot Barb. I remember a UA had a reworked Rage Beyond Death and it was meh imo. Didn't like the mechanics and didn't like the flavor. I get it needed to chage since Rage being 10 minutes now means you can be immortal for 10 minutes if the feature stayed like the og version. But still. Who thought getting Flight and turning into a ghost was the flavor people look for when picking Zealot Barb?

  • @dungeondr
    @dungeondr 14 днів тому +22

    So the classes aren't backwards compatible with old subclasses. Good to know, original 5e has way more choice in subclasses

    • @heroofRaven
      @heroofRaven 14 днів тому +5

      Glad to see they aren't keeping their promise I'd have worried if they had

    • @Xerxes2005
      @Xerxes2005 14 днів тому +3

      It has more choice now. But in 2014, some classes only had 2 subclasses for 41 total. Now they all have four for 48 total. I believe it's an improvement.

    • @lucemferre
      @lucemferre 14 днів тому +2

      You have it backwards, 2014 classes are backwards compatible with all the subclasses.

    • @TheTerrainWizard
      @TheTerrainWizard 14 днів тому

      Didn’t the stewards of D&D, I mean architects, claim D&D 5.5 would be backwards compatible?! Oh wait, never mind.

    • @Xerxes2005
      @Xerxes2005 13 днів тому

      @@TheTerrainWizard I always understood it would mean that you would be able to play a 2014 subclass in One D&D. But of course, an old subclass would be played with the old class rules, especially if the class has changed a lot. But you can play a Bladesinger wizard in a One D&D adventure. You just have to use the 2014 rules for the wizard.