Godox FINALLY fixed this flash issue for Sony cameras
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
- Godox has updated their on-camera flash photography products to have a metal hot shoe instead of a plastic one. This affects products such as the V1, V860II, V850II, V860III, V850III, and V350 speedlights, as well as X1T-S, X2T-S, and XPro-S triggers. The plastic shoe has been a pain point for Godox products for years, as it is extremely fragile. Even light contact with the side of a speedlight can create enough leverage to break a Sony hot shoe, forcing many users to replace them. Even if you are careful, the plastic hot shoe can loosen over time leading to a wiggly flash.
This update also resolves the tightness issue of Godox speedlights / triggers on their newest cameras, the A1 and A7IV. These products have a shorter hot shoe height (to fix a problem with native Sony flashes), making the existing Godox gear very difficult to get on and off.
At the end of this video I stated "I feel that Godox will replace this on all Sony products" as when I recorded this there was no certainty. I have since confirmed this directly with Godox.
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0:00 Introduction
0:16 Problems with Plastic Hot Shoe on Godox Products
2:10 Where to get replacement metal hot shoe for Sony
2:50 How to replace the hot shoe on a Godox speedlight
4:14 How to Fix loose or wiggling Godox speedlight
4:51 Resolve Godox tight fit on Sony A7IV and A1
6:16 This will be changed on all Godox products for Sony
You are awesome! Can’t wait to see the metal shoe come out for their earlier (cheaper) models! Thanks Rob!
Thanks for this!!! Just had an issue yesterday and looks like a much easier fix than I was expecting.
I always thought it was just my Sony and godox combo that was a super tight fit. This is such great news. So informative. Thanks for another great video.
Thank you for the video. I bought the V1-S less than a month ago, and it broke on the second use. I sent it for repairs, and they had the audacity to say that this issue has never happened with them and that I used it incorrectly. I am very careful with my equipment, and your video brought me relief by knowing that I didn't make a mistake and that yes, it's a design problem.
I just bought the shoe mount, and I hope that now I won't have any more problems.
as soon as said people who did not use sony products and godox this video is not for you come back for something general I closed the video but, I came back here to make this comment, like and subscribe to your channel cause I liked the honesty and wish every content creator be this much honest and save our time. Thanks again for being this honest. keep making good stuff bruv ✌
It’s a challenge trying to be thorough and concise, so I definitely have to warn people if it doesn’t concern them!
Very nice to know. I just got my first Sony camera (a7RIIIA) and about to get my first Godox Flash for it (V860III). If it doesn’t come with the metal shoe, I will definitely be doing this swap. Thank you very much for the information.
Wow ! Thank you. Just damaged my 3rd Godox flash unit when someone bumped into me. This information is very helpful.
Thanks for sharing this Robert. I ordered one directly via Amazon here in Europe - not just as cheap as from Asia, but available within a few days for my V860IIS (yes, correct - for version 2 of the flash). I received and mounted it yesterday and - tadaaa - it works. Godox may have changed some dimensions between version II and version III. Therefore it does not fit absolut exactly to the outer shell of the casing (1,5 mm in the line of the mold release), but the 4 screws and the cable connection fit exactly. And finally the most important - it works (and gives me a much more solid feeling during the usage).
Hey Ralf, I have the V860IIS as well and wanted to update the hot shoes and saw that you had success with the replacements so I wanted to confirm with you that your ordered the V3 metal hot shoes for your V2’s correct?
I bought the replacements a while back last year and replaced all mine with the metal ones I had bought from ebay. Thanks for making the video and wished I saw this earlier.
Thanks so much Rob, I ordered two for my two V1 for Sony.
Was waiting for a video from you. Glad it's working out. -Geng
Amazing!!! I broken my V1 yesterday... You have my answer!!! Thanks
Thanks a lot! That explains why I had trouble to find it in Europe the last several months, including the official Godox website. Hope it will get available soon in my neck of woods.
This makes me so happy!!!😁 I was about to replace my entire godox flash setup next month with profoto. Savings 🎉🎉
Robert, do you know if you can buy a replacement Canon hot shoe and put it on a broken Sony Godox 860II? Or Broken V1? Will it work? (obviously just for manual flash shooting)
yes if you don't mind losing ttl / hss, it will still work. Just keep in mind you lose wake functionality via the shutter half-press, so you'll probably want to disable the auto-sleep.
@@robhallphoto Thanks! Reviving a broken Sony one thanks to you!
@@ogonzilladid you get this to work ?
Nice video! Just a quick tip from someone thats learned a ton from your videos and has done a bit of electronic repairs in the past. When you put the ribbon cable in, those gray things on the side are the locking mechanism. It needs to be slid down before sliding the cable in/out. The cable should go in easily without any resistance. Then once it’s in you need to lock it by sliding the gray tabs again to keep the cable from coming out. If you lightly tug the cable, it should be snug and tight.
The Grey tabs were already down on mine. I lifted them up to release the cable and then lowered once to secure the new one. I'm not sure if I did right but it seemed to work.
I was so confused when I heard that popping sound when he pulled it out and then when it said the hardest part is getting the ribbon back in, I was like oooh, he didn't unlock the clasps. Glad someone else saw and announced it to make sure no one else makes his mistake.
Thank you for the info, as always you're a good source of information for the community. Unfortunately, the vendor sold out the V1 version. Let us know if someone else starts selling this as well.
Saw it on amazon today.
Got my hot shoe delivered today (the new metal one), replaced it and works perfectly. Thanks for the video!! Just a side note, BE VERY CAREFUL putting the four screws back on! I may have stripped one of them thinking it was going in….
The fact that Godox recognized it as a problem and developed a solution without us needing to buy a new flash is amazing!!!!
Thank you Godox!!!!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hmmm yeah nah shouldn’t have been a problem on a $300 speed light
Gonna have to purchase a new trigger
it's not a fix
@@sulev111 why, what happened?
@@muhammadkhanlodhi822 the bottom plate is not the breaking point.
thank you!!!! i broke my v1s hot shoe a while back and thought i would have to buy a complete new one! im so glad i just let it sit there for a while! just bought this new hot shoe!
x2 i broke mine too with sony a7iv i was so tight u.u
Great, thanks Rob! @sharpen I just ordered some. Mine broke a few weeks ago and got the plastic replacement from Amazon. The 4 little screws on the inside is what breaks from the leverage because they are screwed to plastic threads. Hopefully that part is metal too
I purchased the V1S replacement using the links provided on Oct 13th. Paid $11.70 US. Received my package today, it’s all metal. Yes!🎉
All metal? The entire thing including right up to the plate with the four holes for the screws?
being able to easily and cheaply replace hotshoes across their lineup, another reason why I'm a huge fan of Godox.
would be better if they did not break in the first place. Never had this problem in 20 years with canon
@@nickwilliams7867 some photographers have to work in environments where accidents happen beyond their control, and damage to their equipment occurs. Across all camera and lighting brands, hotshoe, bayonet lens mounts, hdmi/usb ports... accidents happen, damage occurs.
@photo so you are saying that it’s a coincidence that in 20 years working as a professional photographer using Canon flashes, I never had a problem. Yet in the few years I’ve had Godox I’ve had three shoe failures. Yes equipment will always break, but with weak / poorly designed equipment like the Godox shoe,it’s always going to break more easily.
@@nickwilliams7867 no, that's not what I'm saying
It's not something you should have to do
Thank you so much for this video! The screws of my flash were loose and I've just tighten them down. It's perfect again ;-)
Damn, took them a while!! Some drunken groomsmen broke the shoes off two of my V860II by tumbling into my light stands, finally figured how to replace all my flashes with other sturdier ones. But this metal one looks like a game changer, so I'm absolutely going to order replacements. Thank you for the demo!!
If you had the metal shoe it may have damaged the hot shoe on the camera if he hit it hard enough.
nice tuto. coming from z6II + V1N to a7iV+v1s I had poor feeling about sony robustness and mechanical. Nice to see there are solutions. I must say that i didn't know the sony contacts so when you insert V1S on a7IV it is hard to insert but happy to hear it is for better contact and also we have the feeling it is not inserted completely because a part of shoe remains outside the camera slot.
great video! i had to replace my v1 with the smaller V350s. Never had an issue with the hotshoe itself but the plastic poles that the screw goes in are what broke for me and all the replacements broke the same way. I had to post it in godox reddit. I hope this new metal hot shoe fixes the issue i ran into too.
Agree with you... and I think that issue is still present in the new desing.
Amazing news!!! Thanks for sharing
I've placed my order from aliexpress. Thank you so much. Life saver!
Very useful tip. Thnk you so much.
Thank u so much for this video. This is really an issue for godox sony flash user. I have reploaced 3 times already. Hope they get it made officially available in all countries. It seems ali express wont deliver in india.
Godox UK has these in stock. Just placed my order. Thanks for the heads up!
You are a savior! I have a Flashpoint version that broke years ago. Replaced it with another plastic shoe recently. Now I need to get the upgraded shoe ASAP! I was going to sell it and continue on with the Sony Flashes, which are only good for the video light, honestly and suck with the autofocus when using that light as an AF light. I found the Flashpoint worked better with AF. Something with the timing caused a single point AF shot to always be out of focus with the Sony Flashes. Sony needs to really adjust their system in their next iteration if they expect people to fully be on board. The functionality is lacking, especially when I compare to how well my Canon Flashes worked. I've also broken a few of the Sony hot shoe mounts because a part of it is still plastic, but reinforced with some metal at least to make it last a year doing events. Now I have to hand hold it on a radio trigger if I want to use it, but there's no AF beam when I do! The replacement shoe, which I'm glad that Sony supplies for self repair, is over 100 bucks! I miss the IR AF focus beam on Canon. It worked way better and it was way less intrusive while working events! I really hope Flashpoint/Godox is going to be my brand going forward. I put my Flashes through the ringer and the reinforced metal is going to save me a lot of money and time! I only need the one on camera flash and get the higher powered flashes for off camera stuff!
Finally!!! My goodness. I break them ALL the time (though it is a running joke that I brake my strobes in some capacity all the time). Thank you for posting this.
Is there a version for the TT685s? Would love it I could swap to the new locking mechanism on the TT685s ii too
Thanks for this confirmation that I am not the only one having this problem. I have an a7iv and tt350s and had to file the hotshoe foot with a metal file, because I almost couldn't get the flash off my camera. It only worked with prying. Now it's a lot better, but the plastic hotshoe foot continues to give more friction I think. I hope that the tt350s will also get a metal base, or that metal feet will be/are available to order. Anyway, I can't find them now.
very informative, thank you
Hi I m using sony a7iv . While using godox x pro trigger s .. its feel really tight. It scared me if I damage my camera..any option
Any info on metal shoe for TT350? I use that for the Sony ZV-! (for leaf shutter in sunlight). Think the ZV-1 has the tighter hot shoe (mentioned at 4:55) used in newer Sony cameras. Very annoying trying to get that flash on/off the ZV-1.
Hot tip. You mentioned inserting the data ribbon into the slot on the flash, being a PITA. If you notice the two circular punch-outs just below the end of the ribbon... Get a spanner wrench or a needle-nose tweezers and stretch the tweezer ends wider until the ends of the tweezers will fit into the punch-outs on the ribbon. Gently push into the flash-end, initially with a gentle up-and-back wiggle and it'll go in easier than trying to grip with a big pair of male fingers! To ensure a nice tight fit, I was also able to take a slightly wider set of tweezers and "gently", grab the ribbon-end and push a bit stronger into the slot on the flash. Can't overdo this to avoid crimping the very-thin ribbon.
That is a zif socket, ie Zero Insertion Force. The socket is white, on either side of the socket are a pair of darker gray sections. Pull the darker gray sections towards you with your finger nails, or a hooked piece of metal. Now the cable can be removed, and the new cable inserted. When you are done, push the darker gray sections to secure the cable and proceed with reassembly.
@@mikegrok Thank you Mike. I just replaced another hot shoe before reading your comment from a few days ago. I have another unused backup hot shoe replacement, finally the metal version. Going to look at it, referencing your comment. Will eventually need to replace another busted hot shoe connector!
Oh my, I was at my wits end with Godox hotshoes. My v1 hotshoe fell off just this weekend on a graduation event shoot. I’ve got 2x broken xpro triggers and my previous v860 broke once.
Hey Rob, how was your experience with Ali Express? I placed an order on October 15 for the V1 metal hot shoe replacement and I have yet to hear back from them. They’re extremely difficult to contact.
Brilliant Robert, thanks a bunch.
Will the new metal shoe fit the Sony A7M4 using the Godox 350/Li-IOn 350II Flash😊
Thank you for the information. Do you know if it is possible to replace the plastic hot shoe with a metal one in the TT685ii for Sony?
any idea how we can order the new V1S ? I never saw any reference to a V1S II ! strange Xpro II S was not updated that way too.
Cant seem to buy one at link. Makes me jump thru hoops with no results. I see some at amazon, are they the same ones?
Thank you so much for the tip, I managed to change the hot shoe on my flash. I disassembled The flash trigger and found that I can insert the metal hot shoe there too.
Say what? Thats awesome to hear, the internet would really appreciate a guide!
Was your trigger the xpro or the xt2?
@alexbegley8860
I have the flashpoint R2 Pro II, R2 Pro, the older R2 TTL triggers and the V860II speedlight.
I just disassembled all 3 triggers and the speedlight and found they use the same hotshoe. Basically, it's the same hotshoe, the same ribbon connector in different plastic housings.
What I did was ordered the replacement part for the V860III (newer speedlight version), disassembled the metal Hotshoe and installed it in my V860II. I tested high speed sync and TTL and both works.
@sharpenphoto
I don't do video so can I do a write up of the disassembly and share it with you? I owe it to you to share this info and you have a greater reach to help all the users of the Sony plastic shoes.
New parts expected in a couple of weeks so I'll do a write up then.
@@leonnguyen2055 Yeah a write up with photos will be great and i'll pass it along in some way.
@@leonnguyen2055 Thanks very much - that'd be great!
I don't see a link on the website for V860II replacements. Can the V860III shoe go on the V860II?
Where van i buy the metal shoe for Sony?
So I just replaced the hotshoes on both my Good V1's for the second time in a month, and I got got super excited about this. Turns out the Sony mount is probably out of stock as its greyed out :(
Had to replace my hot shoe broke on the first time I tested the flash, I am wondering if the new Sony Godoy triggers have been updated ,..
Thank you so much. My connection on my Sony a7IV was too tight and I thought it was a flaw. Now I won’t every about it.
Thank you!
I use Godox on my LUMIX G9. I used an X1T trigger for years without any problems, then purchased an X2T. The X2T would not fit on the G9 hot shoe! On examination I noticed a thin shim which I think was to hold the plastic cover for the flash contacts. I removed the shim and the X2T fits okay now.
you can actually buy the same part to replace the trigger hot shoe. that is what i did with my x1 trigger. you don’t need the whole base, only the hot shoe part. you can unscrew the 4 screws attaching the hot shoe to the body of the base. i bought the screw type hot shoe for tt685 model. actually a lot of godox hot shoes can be retrofitted. i am not sure if i can swap my x1 trigger with the newer metal and quick release version though, but i am getting one just to try it out.
Are they selling them with the metal shoe now on Amazon? I live in Canada not sure if that makes a difference.
Hi Robert. I ordered some units of the new metal hotshoe two weeks before this video for my V1’s. I think it is a good improvement
But I disagree with you in one point: The four tiny small screws inside the hotshoe are still the weakest part. I cant believe those screws are suffering all the tension. They are by far the the weakest link in the chain. I don’t think the new design is fixing this other than put some glue on them, and honestly, I believe the hotshoe will broke again first time the flash has a small crash.
Many thanks again for you channel. Kind regards.
you are right, it just happened to me last night, just broke for nothing, this new part is crap
Yup no difference in strength...
One question, Godox V1, V860 II, V860 III have the same hotshoe.? The link say for V1 / V860 III.
Does the new tt685iis have the same shoe problem or does it already have a metal shoe installed?
I have a Sony A7III the has A Godox X Pro trigger stuck on my hot shoe, any ideas or tricks for removal?
Hopefully Sony will follow suit! I replaced a hotshoe on one of my Sony flashes that cost almost as much as a new Godox flash, but the swivel design of Sony flashes is second to none, so I sucked it up and did the repair on it. I would have definitely preferred to change it to a metal shoe! Thanks Rob.
Yeah, them Sony parts come at a price thats often dear... As I'm thinking of expanding my gear, I've seriously questioned whether or not I wish to stay in their ecosystem.
@@beesdreams9 it's definitely a factor, but I think each of the big three are pretty expensive in that regard too.
I've had the same issue with Godox flashes on my Canon mirrorless cameras. I tried to replace the shoe and apparently didn't get the little thready thing plugged in properly. I just bought two used Canon speedlights for on-camera flashes.
Do other have an issue with ttl just not working off camera?
y repuestos para los disparadores Xt2s? y Xpro no hay?
Hi, Robert , thanks for your great videos, after exchanging all of my godox and flashpoint hotshoe flashes (3) I started to see that the Sony a7iv hotshoe get loose, I sent the camera to repair, after a month it came back and the issue only last a week , do you know how to tight it back again, it causing connection issues. and this is not the flashes since I used them with the a9II way before with no issues. I think it is a big problem with this camera and the hotshoe.
any help will be appreciated, thanks
I saw a review on amazon, and the Godox 860III broke the hot shoe of the Sony A7IV....sine I have the Sony A7IV if I buy the new metal hot shoe will that help?
Do they have the metal foot for the V860II ?
Please post a closeup photo of the new hotshoe so we can tell diff. Thanks!
Godox Ving V860IIS wondering if there is a metal replacement for this version.
Can I swap Godox v1 fujifilm hot shoe with sony hot shoe and use it on sony camera? Will it work that way?
On my a74, with the metal shoe, the contact isn’t that good… I lose flash connection when I shoot in portrait mode. Not sure if it’s only my a74’s hotshoe that is lose or it’s that way for everyone.
Did they ever resolve the color temperature issue?
is it posibole to mod ttt600 to have that hotshue?
Anybody got a link to the 860 VIIIS replacement? The link provided above in the description shows the plastic replacement in the picture?
Just bought Sony A7 IV. I tried the Godox X1Ts. On Manual flash mode it works, but it doesn't works on ETTL.
The hotshoe not compatible?
Should I buy X2Ts ?
I was just wondering, will the twist lock hot shoe for the V1 work with V860ii and TT685? I find the older locking mechanism to tedious to lock. Thanks.
I'm also wondering if it will fit the TT685. hopefully we get an answer
We love Godox!
I hope they can make one available for the Fuji mount. My locking switch has broken. EDIT: Just noticed your link has one for Fuji too! Excellent! Thank you!
I would love my godox triggers to get a metal hot shoe. Already broke one, the new one is my all time stress whether it will break or hold when I have a photoshoot
Just another hint: There are two small holes on the flexible contact stripe. These are there in order to put in e.g. small tweezers and you can pull out and in the contact much better than with the hand.
I only had one hole on that strip but this tip helped a lot. Thanks!
Great video ROB! I have a little off topic question: in very very dim light ambient, how do u get 100% focus on the right sobject? I'm having trouble in clubs etc due to the lack of assist beam i used to have on a previus DLSR.
Thank you so much! 😊
I personally haven't really struggled with this using Sony cameras. I remember on the A7III there were a few times in dim lighting where the subject had significant backlighting, so the camera couldn't brighten the subject enough to gain focus. I simply toggled manual focus, which automatically had peaking on, and then easily manually focused. Beyond that I really haven't had a scenario where autofocus wasn't a breeze in a years.
You also don't have a lack of an assist beam. You just need to set it up the same way dSLRs use them. Center focus or point near center. AF-S. AF assist on in settings and on speedlight.
People assume this doesn't work on mirrorless but they are wrong.
What about the White Balance issue? Have they resolved this??
Hi Robert. Thanks for the info! I'm interested in doing this myself.
My question is doe this work with Flashpoint brand equivalent flashes as well?
yes it does.
I'm a professional wedding photographer and have new Sony A7IV and purchased new Godox V350s also Godox 860iiis and they both are inconsistent in light output when used in ttl mode on flash regardless of recycle time ready or battery charge etc and it's same composition with same lighting scenarios. My camera settings is on manual and I tried rear sync, fill flash and it's no fix. Sometimes it produces very powerful light output and sometimes under exposed.
Is this a brand compatibility issue Godox with Sony? Is there any settings I need to do?
In addition to having a Godox system for travel, I use Alien Bees in the studio with old Pocket Wizards. I broke a Godox trigger when I first got my A74 and just assumed it was wear and tear from using the trigger for so long. With the PWs, they work seamlessly on my A73 but miss the connection on the A74 randomly. I'm constantly pushing them during a shoot in to reconnect. I'm hesitant to purchase new PWs since I have no idea whether this will fix the problem or not. Thank you for the only place I've found the information about the A74 being the problem. I have already purchased a new Godox trigger (still has the plastic connector) but I'll invest in a new one when I can. With the PWs, though, I'm not sure what to do. If anyone has any info to share about how to trigger ABs with an A74 and the new tighter, metal connections, I'd love to hear it. TY.
I have a problem with my flash, it has the new metal shoe. On my camera it appears: this accessory is not compatible with the device and cannot be used. Check device compatibility
My V1-S hotshot cracked and than the whole locking mechanize just cracked right after it during a shoot few days ago. I have countless Godox products include V1-F that I have for four years without any issues but this is the worst of all. The XT2-S is very tight and I hope they will produce the metal mount for it as well.
Thanks! I ordered my new shoe. I see the new ones are shipping with the metal shoe.
i want to change nikon v1 to sony v1 hot shoe it's possible
have they also strengthened the rest of the foot. I've had two break and it's the bit just above what is now metal that has broken.
THIS is the real question.
I did took you advise and toughened 4 black screws inside. No wiggle on the hot shoe anymore, bravo! But then I locked the flash on the camera and couldn't take it off later, because 2 small plastic pins, which secure the flash, wouldn't go back at all!!! Pls try yourself to unscrew hot-shoe segment, which facing the camera. It took me almost an hour.
I have a slightly broken V1 shoe and a totally broken TT 685. Any information on where to get a replacement for the 685?
I'm wondering the same or if the V1 will work on TT 685. The second picture on the listing shows 3 flashes, 1 being the TT 685 so does that mean one mount works for two different models? I'll try asking the seller and update this comment if I hear back.
I just ordered GoDox V1 and I hope it has the new shoe when it arrives
My V860iii-S fell apart today in the middle of an event. Very embarrassing. Glad I can replace the shoe though.
AliExpress site shopping cart does not work on either Mac or iPad. Unabable to order
Does anybody knows if this solves the problem with white balance on auto for Sony cameras?
will this work for tt685s
Hello everyone! I have a V350S. I bought this metal shoe from V1 on Ali and disassembled it completely. As a result, it turned out to install a metal shoe on the V350. You need a suitable screwdriver, nippers and a little ingenuity))) I assume that you can install it on all Godox products that have plastic hot shoe
Thanks for this! Mine broke at the first event I used it at. However, I can't find the metal version anywhere?! Your link doesn't seem to be the metal mount like pictured in your video. I scored the internet and can't find the completely metal version any where. Sony a7IV user here. Thanks again!
As I said in the video, even though the pictures from my linked listing don't show metal, they are metal. Nobody has updated photography and there are no other confirmed retailers with metal mounts yet.
Would love to see b&h sell this replacement.