Of course not. Look at genshin when they won 2021 Best Mobile Game, 2022 Player's Voice Award, and 2022 Still Playing Award. They give out 800 primos, in a span of 4 days! How cool is that!
They're too used to getting a bad treatment from genshin. Other gacha games are quite generous compared to genshin lol. Honkai impact and Honkai Star Rail are just few examples of it.
Is it that hard to comprehend that this video is not just about dr ratio, and it is in fact about everything they've done. Why do you refuse to give them credit for it?
Dude I'm a huge fan of Genshin but I kinda like HSR more almost because of how much love and care is being put into it by the devs. I get excited for the surveys because I feel like I can actually give feedback that might be considered for once. There's no way HSR is dying for me when it's too much fun.
That's so true man. I love how the devs of HSR are really putting care to the game, they hear us out and, that sht really entices me to put some money into the game. And since I got into HSR after playing genshin, I felt lot less stressed, like, HSR fanbase is actually healthier.
@@Kioh. Yeah. This last survey I asked if they could work on allowing players to preselect what 2pc relic set they want to drop in SimU or an alternative to farm them easier. It's really frustrating and discouraging doing a 20-40 min run for only 4 drop opportunities and only receive 0-2 pieces of the set you're trying to farm. You can't even craft them like the 4pc sets so that makes it even harder. Edit: OMG you're right I don't know how I overlooked it. Farming Inert Salsotto has been a nightmare and this will hopefully allow me get those elusive ATK ropes🤞
Having a small dedicated community that is passionate about their game is better than a big community that doesn't care about their game. Edit: Love reading all the comments and seeing everyone's pov!
It literally won the best mobile game. No way its dying xD It is not as popular as Genshin but it is surely isnt dying. I saw somewhere it had like 30Mil monthly active players. Which is a lot. And Giving Free New 5 star will further improve its player count and player base. Its the BIGGEST W HSR has done which Genshin has failed to do since it came out in 2020.
It makes no sense when a game every few weeks is making 15mil+ (since those calculations from that one website aren't WORLDWIDE) and i don't think when a game is making that much money, i don't think it's a flop
Ofc it's not dying maybe a few people leaving the game but that it's normal almost with every game. It won't get the same amount of players as genshin only because of the combat system and a lot people say it's boring (and haven't even tried once). So it's still really good for a turn based mobile game
Who ever it was who think Star Rail was dying is literally brain dead LMAO, sure it's not as popular as Genshin, but it has a dedicated community, look at Hi3rd.
It's still very popular though, but i don't understand why it's gotta be a competition , it's a turn based game vs an Open world , their sales might've went down the last few patches but these patches were filler, there are people comparing Genshin's sales when Furina came out to Honkai's HouHou sales like give me a break it's the same damn company guys😂
@@idontspeakjapanese6289true a game that charged $1800 for the unit + wep and full stigmata, total of 300+ pity (new units will put them in the bin) and hi3 story being absolutely ass, copied of other animes, and predictable + lazy af with how they reused plot armor and random anime power up in their game for 40+ chaptets. Regarding HSR, going from $100m+ to $20m when GI consistently get $50m+ is a bad sign for HSR. 200+ days of filler too, HSR might as well be a dead game.
Its to be expected that an open world games like genshin will have a larger player base than HSR which is a turn based game. It may not surpass genshin's average popularity but it will have a solid dedicated player base that enjoys the game.
I mean before maybe but i think now honkai have more player base since u can look how active community the view on yt and like on both facebook and reddit is both higher
If you follow leaks and info about Dr Ratio before the game was ever nominated, it’s basically his same kit currently. It’s pretty obvious they had him as a fully fledged limited unit that would need to be pulled to obtain. They just decided to do something nice. Are there benefits of doing this in order to draw in new and old players back into the game also? Of course. But they aren’t doing it because “they’re desperate” or whatever the hell people are saying
Bruh you should see some people said to me "if they are really nice they would give 5* Limited Selector", what a braindead comment. We were never know they would gave us free 5* Limited to begin with, it's like those people given 100$ and when they are homeless and then demanded 1000$ instead. In the end he still a free 5* Limited unit, that's not gonna changed.
Honestly it's the only logical explanation on why Starrail gets better rewards than Genshin. It doesn't depend on developers being nice, it depends on strategic business decisions intended to increase profits.
@@spiderdude2099 a lot of people coping like that dude, they were either: 1. Say Ratio would be a bad unit cause it's free, or 2. Say the rewards is not good enough. They compeletely disregard the fact we got 5* Limited for free to begin with, doesn't matter if he's good or not, It just the fact they can do this now, they open the possibility to do it again in the future.
@@TheMattVisbruh, limited 5* selector is too much. Hsr already got a guaranteed tutorial banner, standard 5* selector and a free limited, they're being too nice to the players, even genshin can't do any of that.
Starrail can never die because the game was never meant to be comptetitive,its a turn based game with a decent story,and easy "combat mechanic" that anyone can master in a week of gameplay
@@tartagliax804genshin and star rail are made by completely different teams. Star rail actually cares about players because players care about their game. You can’t say anything bad about genshin even if constructive - genshin players would eat hoyo’s shit and ask for a bigger spoon
@@naw613 you seem to have things mixed up, they "care" more about their playerbase because hsr isnt as big or successful as genshin, and theyre trying so desperately to bring in every genshin player. Theyre still one big greedy company that profits off gullible people like you.
@@tartagliax804 That's some weird reasoning. You are disappointed in the fanbase, but the company (and its games) is what you are not gonna support? A lot of games have a bad fanbase, good games too, but the creators are the ones who need support. Not only HSR has a different dev team, who are gonna make many QoL changes/content and marketing moves because of the competition, but also the fanbase is a bit different. Of course, there are Genshin players who play HSR too, but ultimately the games are of different genre (really, apparently a lot of people don't like turn-based games), which would already divide a lot of people, and it is also Honkai - would attract some of the older fanbase of HI3.
What’s crazy is Instead of congratulating HSR for getting best mobile game and getting rewarded for it, Genshin players/fans/Stans whatever… can’t just be happy for HSR players and say “that’s really awesome, happy for y’all gettin a free character, keep it up” No. They have to downplay a character THAT HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED & can’t compliment the fact that the game is successful and it’s sad to hear & see. This is coming from someone who still plays Genshin & LOVES Ayaka to death
It's really sad indeed. I've never cringed so hard in my life than when I surfed the genshin subreddit the day free Ratio was announced. The amount of hipocrisy and copium was, and still is, insane and people there just agree without a second thought, which seems like brainwashery to me.
@@mintsugasThat's because a lot HSR players/fans are also seasoned Genshin players, who are literally furious for supporting the game for like 3+ years now and their plea is not being heard, the 1st year anniversary was that trigger. While in HSR, the game is only out for months but it has a lot of QoL and the best part of that is the devs are actually listening to their community, there is a communication.
@@mintsugas I’ve seen the jokes and memes being made online about Genshin right now. Yes, that is unfortunate. But I personally don’t want misinformation being spread about a unreleased unit who’s numbers and kit we still don’t have full clarity on. That’s all I’m saying
At least Dr.Ratio has an actual functioning kit that works and was clearly meant to be a limited unit based on leaks. Meanwhile in genshin the only free 5 start we haver ever gotten is aloy who was forgotten with in the first 2 days of her release and than we have the abomination that was Dehya being nerfed to the ground after they decided to make her a standard character after they realized "Maybe no one is willing to pull this character after so many nerfs and not having a functional kit".
I will never forgive them for Dehya. Such a wonderful character not deep persay but fun in that Mercenary life but softening to a client trope. Very nice design.... then she takes alot of work and god artifacts to work, dies almost instantly in multiplayer boss arenas. I mean I guess luckily overworld is so smash my face on the keyboard easy her kit doesn't matter in that regard but it still sucks, and they will probably never buff her either.
@@DeezSnowflakesAreInsane Never said I hated Genshin. There are a variety of reasons why it's last on my Hoyoverse rankings but it still has some novelty to me. I keep up with main story at most now a days.
People say that Dr Ratio is free because he'll be bad, that's just dirty of a mind people have, we don't even know how he'll perform just yet, so assuming that a character is free while saying he'll be bad is an understatement, the reason I think having Dr Ratio being free was a good idea mainly due to Kafka being on there on the same phase so people won't have to decide to pull for.
Thing is he makes the supports a Dps cause everytime they attack, Dr Ratio does a follow up. making it so that in 4 turns, he's doing 4x the amount of damage he's suppose to do.
It’s crazy how people don’t realize this is all carefully orchestrated Furina is abt to be the peak of Fontaine after that it’s pretty much filler until natlan they are promoting HSR so the focus is switched back to hsr for 2.0 at the end of the day Hoyoverse is the winner
Its amazing how quickly people forget its a business lol. Oh and look! The Raiden banner (historically the best selling) is available right in time for the holidays! Gee whiz, sure does suck that 4.3 also happens to have the lowest primogem count in months, guess there is no other choice than to swipe! Its all marketing and maneuvering your product around that market, if you think about it this way then none of this is that surprising.
@@OinklyFunny I said someone said "They are doing it cause it's a marketing campaign to win over social media". Yeah no shit, and they success doing it lol
I said this on reddit and I'll say it again "I wonder if people will realize or figure out that Genshin player count/popularity is not normal and inflated due to its release window/timing and being the first of its kind. Like all these first-time gacha/game players coming from genshin don't realize gifts/rewards don't mean a game is dying or players are leaving."
I played a lot of gacha games and they have always hidden intention when they are being generous, mostly for marketing purposes or retaining players and hiding their powercreep issue. Bro its almost 2024 now your reason for genshin popularity is too old, their current player base is still above average while the game that released in covid like among us failed to retain the players they got on pandemic. Currently there's still a lot of new players joining on genshin but I think a lot of old players especially from covid time are already quit. Let's be real the more you play genshin the more you hate it because open world is getting repetitive especially on Sumer u and genshin lack endgame or replayibility value.
@@tidf-wh1zgi mean what's wrong with hidden intentions? The old player got the rewards, they got new/returning players, it's a win-win situation and that's what other gacha games do. Genshin is the weird one here, they don't give rewards, sht anni and lack of QoL.
@@tidf-wh1zgI agree about the generosity often implying some other intention and it’s maddening to see people outright say that doesn’t happen instead of just being truthful and saying they don’t think it’s the case here. If Genshin had a lot of competitors and was losing a lot players I’m sure they’d be super generous to you know *compete*
Imagine saying that when GI get matched with real games 😂😂😂. HSR didnt had to fight against god of war or cyberpunk coz its a mobile game so its competitor were a bunch of nameless mobile games that nobody had heard of. If they didnt win I would probably quit HSR out of embarassment.
@@Qopayou dont need to tell everyone that you are a delusional genshin fan xD (I play it too, but its nothing against honkai universe. Its just more popular because of open world and honkai has less popular game mechanics)
Ratio does look fully fleshed out, so I think his gifting was "kind of" a spontaneous celebration for the game awards. Its been clear from the jade vs primo monthly count and the other rewards that HSR has had the green light from Hoyo to give better incentives. For various reasons, no doubt. HSR devs were probably told by accounting and marketing departments months ago that they could give a free 5 star. They played it smart and waited for a good opportunity to arise. Cue a healthy dose of success from the Game Awards + gap after Fontaine and its time to strike while the iron is hot. My guess is they chose him for the free slot over Ruan Mei after they got banner projections from the beta server. Let's be real, we know what sells in this community so Ruan Mei being free wasn't an option for them lol. And that's how we got Dr. Ratio, and also why I highly doubt the notion that he's free because he's bad.
As very low spender, welkin and occasional BP, this kind of stuff makes me more willing to spend and support the game. I try to balance what I spend and always appreciate extra content/events and free chars.
Same, but I only bought 3 BP in the past due to the resoursces were very scarce at launch with so many characters. Now they are giving even a free Ratio, I think I will buy this patch and next patch BP for the resources alone.
HSR has been generating more revenue than Genshin has in the past couple of months according to sensor tower. Genshin had more revenue in November but that’s because furina came out and topaz and houhou weren’t that hyped. Hsr has been doing close to or better than Genshin has revenue wise the past few months, so no HSR is certainly not dying.
You forgot that HSR has been selling character back to back, in 1.0 to 1.6 alone, there are 14 limited characters, which is 2 new limited characters every updated, while in Genshin, theres only 10 and this type of aggressive strategy, marketing, and being a hoyo game helps push HSR sales , making sure that there are still sales regardles if its high or low. On Ios sales alone, only the first patches (Seele,Jingyuan, SW) has high sales and theres no repeats. It isnt dying for sure because of this strategy.
@@shutup1037 They are selling thats for sure, compared to HSR, Genshin has updates with only Reruns+ unpopular characters thats are still giving them high revenues compared to HSR new unpopular characters. based on the previous sensor tower revenue, 30 million + only in reruns + 1 unpopular character, thats really good compared to HSR high revenue because of its aggressive strategy.
Tbh i didnt played genshin for about 8 months since ive gotten into hsr, it is so relaxing to do dailies, less burnt out for relic farming and character ascending, so rewarding every new patch (i have never watched genshin live stream cause its boring to me ) but i didnt missed any of hsr livestreams plus character design is more mature and appealing to me in hsr.
I started playing hsr for under a month ago. And I actually have a alot of enjoyment from this than I did with Genshin for over a year and a half. Not to mention I like playing Turn-based games in general. Seeing the 1.6 updates and the content it'll bring was nuts. On top of Dr. Ratio for free? They got me hooked on this.
I enjoy HSR a lot. It has pretty much everything I was looking for in a game I can have in my pocket. I’ll keep supporting it as long as I feel valued and the game is around. Can’t wait for Penacony.
Have to remember that Genshin Impact came out in 2020 during the pandemic where everyone was at home and they built a huge player base off that. Of course Star Rail isn't going to have anywhere close to the same amount of players as Genshin Impact.
@@phxgamingxd-hatdogedition1157 everyone has their own advantages, HSR and GI... I've been playing HSR since it was first released, and I don't know why the main story updates are so slow... we only got the main story in patch 1.2 and continued briefly in 1.3 just for the farewell dialogue --__-- In terms of content, I really approve of HSR, the development team is better than GI 😅
@@Reverse1999-er9vzFYI the belobog, and HuoHuo's big event, was main story, true 1.3 was kinda short, but if you count the companion mission in, it is part of the main story and gives it more lenght Just because its not shown as the regular yellow color, it does not mean its not main story
@@hvcskmagyar the huohuo/topaz story is just a continuous story like Ruan Mei's continuous story in 1.6 later, obviously it's not the main story :) in GI we call it a story event :)
@@Reverse1999-er9vz For me (maybe this is me sucking the HSR Dev Team's dick), I was kinda into the stories they've been cooking. Compared to the Belobog story quest tho, it probably had a much lesser "impact" so to speak. However, I was really enjoying the kind of "filler" story and companion quests as theygive off a "slice-of-life" feel to it. Maybe this is my mentally ill side speaking but I was really immersed with the story and made me sometimes forget the current life problems I'm facing as a student.
Just wanted to say that I'm here thanks to their marketing, lol! Star Rail has been on the periphery for some time but having it win at the Game Awards, PLUS getting a 5-star for free got me sold. Seeing Ruan Mei's drip marketing helped more than I'm willing to admit, haha!
The changes that HSR are making is great, and I already know the new planet is going to be amazing. I just don’t see them dropping the ball. (Also I quite enjoyed the ghost event) liked the cast of characters they chose. Regardless of all of that I’ve seen people say ad nauseam that mihoyo will give up on hsr and put all their efforts into genshin… hi3 is even less popular than hsr yet from what I’ve heard remains to get love. People act like great games from the same company can’t coexist.
No star rail wont die nor it will be dropped by hoyo but no matter what they do star rail wont be as popular as genshin since it simply lacks content , genshin just gets bigger and bigger with every update , with more world , quests , lore while star rail is only adding more levels to already existing content and its not enough to beat genshin , not to mention them totally dropping lore and story with how they added 3 hours of main story during all the 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 and 1.6 patches . Compared to like 25 hours of fontaine archon quest alone together with another 25 hours or more of narzissenkruez world questline and other world quest and story quests in 4.0 4.1 and 4.2 alone
@@generaltoszur1036 Im not far into genshin (recently started playing it) but one thing I can say is that there’s a lot to do. I do think people downplay how much content hsr has, but I do agree it’s no where near as much as genshin. But I do think the content we do get on hsr is entertaining even if it’s not a lot of it.
@@munchkintaker4263 and what do you mean minor patches later one s maybe but what about patches like 1m1 and 1.2 they were literally the First patches game got and 1.1 gave no main story , 1.2 gave 2 hours of luofu nonsense and 1.3 gave 30 minutes of nonsense
@@generaltoszur1036 And? I am talking about things like 2.0 - this is the first major patch. But you compare it to a damn Fontaine, that appeared years later after the game's release. You can't simply compare it like that, since Genshin was quite like that at the beginning too. Considering how you downplay everything to nonsense, I also can downplay a lot of stuff in Genshin to nonsense that exists only to fill in the story lenght, but in even bigger amount - boring and bland, repetitive too. It is very convenient to close eyes on the problems that Genshin has, which is what people sick of, and then criticize the other game that has the same kind of problems (like every gacha to an extent) but actually adds more gameplay to balance the content drought. It is not for Genshin fans to talk about lacking and stagnated content. Not to mention, you seem to disregard the expansion on lore during all those patches, which is very dishonest.
It is genuilly Nuts how much these genshin stans are trying to downplay this game, it is nuts and makes NO SENSE why they hate starrail this much, i just don't understand it
I think its cause people like me love to make fun of how hard Genshin stans cope when Star Rail rewards its players this well because Genshin could never. 😂
@@harr0wing890ya probaly and people saying this "is a bad thing" I HIGHLY DISAGREE, cause it's just that when genshin players went over to starrail, they realized HOW MUCH BETTER they get treated for being loyal players then when they played genshin and got treated like shit for being loyal and its annoying seeing genshin stans say "starrail players need to stop shitting on gensbin" and i think that's a GOOD THING that genshin gets shit, cause then it wake other gensbin players up to the reality that they CAN BE TREATED SO MUCH BETTER then they are now
HSR doing this was the smartest (and nicest) thing ever, while people were gonna pull on his banner it wasn't really gonna be that high especially considering the 4 stars were crap. Now I'm not saying that was the reason they made him free, I genuinely believe that it was their way of repaying back the community with sincerity considering the HSR team actually listens to the players. While money might not have been on their minds while giving Dr. Ratio away, it will leave a good impact on the player base and entice people to play which will more than make up for the "loss" of giving him away for free. Overall, I truly like Genshin Impact but them doing something like this entices me to actually put a bit of money into the game since our voices are being heard.
this is just a HYV tragedy to make player play HSR instead of genshin. genshin is already popular and HYV wanted their another game to be successful too. if they put everything like Endgame content or increase resin and put what their genshin playerbase want. the more they put what we want, the more people who play HSR because genshin doesn’t add what they want, they will quit hsr and play genshin again. i think MHY is trying to make their game’s balanced like- genshin have: open world,lore while HSR have endgame,resin increase or you want genshin to have Combat focus game then play ZENLESS ZONE ZERO they wanted their games to have balanced so that they want YOU to play both games.
***EDIT*** It's been brought to my attention that Genshin Lab's estimations aren't to be taken anywhere close to fact, as they seem to have a reputation for estimating based largely on app rankings, which can vary wildly on the overall quality of a patch, series of patches or other trands related tot he game, not just on the banner. Leaving my original post in case anyone wants to roast me for this, or any of my other points. ** The Genshin Lab revenue numbers only takes into account iOS numbers from China. The fact that HSR has already made nearly a quarter billion in revenue from that alone tells me they're probably well over a billion for overall revenue, especially since iOS's market share in China is less than a third of what Android is. Another thing to consider, is that HSR doesn't take nearly as much effort for development as Genshin, since the world isn't nearly as big, so I'd say Hoyo are doing VERY well with this game, despite it not reaching the same numbers that Genshin has. In the least, the cost of development is likely a lot smaller. Also, HSR may have fallen off from its day 1 revenue, but if you compare the iOS China revenue, you'll see that a lot of Genshin's banners average between $10 mil and $20 mil, which is very similar to HSR's current trend, and there are plenty that have made less than $10 mil. Heck, the only banner on Genshin to exceed Seele's first banner for Chinese iOS revenue was the Hu Tao/Yelan rerun banner! Anyway, I imagine that HSR is probably a lot bigger in China than it is everywhere else, and the gap in popularity between the two franchises is probably a lot smaller in China than it is in the rest of the world. But the fact that it won Mobile Game of the Year tells me that, globally, it's doing exceptionally well for the time being.
@@Ocacadordecasadas Well yeah, that goes without saying. HSR has the potential to break Selee revenue if they rerun Jingliu with another banger character, much like how Genshin reached its peak month with Yelan's first rerun by featuring her with Hu Tao. Turns out featuring two of the most desired characters together does wonders for sales. If there is one thing that would (and probably will) prevent HSR from ever breaking Seele banner sales though, it would be that Hoyo had already reached peak popularity at the time of HSR's release, and a majority of the game's fans come from Genshin and HI3.
@@tidf-wh1zg Thanks for pointing that out. I looked up further details, and I didn't realize that Genshin Lab's numbers came from a group that has a bad reputation.
Anyone who says Honkai Star Rail is Dying given it's explosive support from HoYo and Blissful Joy it's brought to it's Player base is either Tunnel-vision Blind, Tone-deaf or had to listen To CLAPTRAP Talk for more than thirty seconds.
Dr. Ratio is giving players a free education which I find really interesting considering he’s an academic. So this whole getting him for free really adds to the character in the end. Great vid
I’ve been playing HSR every single day since launch and I am someone who doesn’t like gacha or live service games but I love the game! They really knock it out the park and I preach how good the game is to everyone I know and its funny considering I’m someone against live service/gacha and I still support it bc they respect the playerbase
Honestly what a great video and also great look on the PR/Advertising side that most people would normally overlook. Even myself as a PR/Advertising major, that always tries to take into account marketing of video games, found this video exceptionally good You’re a great person and content creator, seriously. Keep up the great work!
I agree with what you said, and I will add that for new players coming in, having an imaginary dps to mix in with the starting roster will be great. If people are lucky enough to pull Welt off the standard before the 300 mark, cool, but other than that, Yukong is the only img you are going to have. Personally I nabbed DHIL as soon as he came out for that very reason. I finally got Welt as my freebie because aside from still not having a single Bailu after 6 months of playing, my luck with standard characters has been hit or miss.
As someone who played genshin daily and achieved my personal goal when i started genshin which was clear the abyss, I am at a comfortable position in the game where i still have plenty to explore, can collect my dailys and do events and basically pull when i want a character or hyper invest in ones i loved. Now i have started my Hsr journey and while brand new and getting used to stuff the free dr ratio is gonna be so good for my account regardless and i have plenty of primos saved 10k for ruan mei being 70 into pity etc...Hoyo is killing hsr and i love it and both of the games.
They know 2.0 is coming. Alot of players left, and there's a lot of new players to be had, the game has optimized all the bugs/quality of life/endgame etc. Penacony will be beautiful and there will be tons of new lore and characters. Get players to log in in order to claim their free 5 star, then hook them in with the new content. It's genius really
Imagine what they will do during the 1 year anniversary for the game I hope it will be something like a free standard five star so I can finally get that bronya or himeko or something. But the one thing I learned from the livestream is that we need to let them cook again 🔥🔥🔥
I love this game, after 10 days I finally did everything and I'm now lvl 50 TL and waiting each day to do dailies and the next patch to get Blade :3 I'm not really a Gacha enjoyer, Genshin ultimatly wasn't for me because I didnd't know about the currency traps and how hard it is to get a character. This game, if you research a little bit before starting so you avoid fucking your resources, is absolutely amazing. The way you have to strategize each fight with the resources you get feels amazing + I noticed you can clear everything with F2P character easily (I got Welt from Beginner and he didn't really click with me, but I continued and enjoyed the entire story with the normals characters and had a blast). Overall with 150 hours, I had my fill for 0 euros :) PD: Im in dire need of a DPS so Dr. Ratio is a god sent, I don't enjoy Sushang or Dan Heng
as hi3 and hsr player, what really annoying about "some" of genshin fandom is their pride, they always mentioned that genshin are better than both honkai game. Generally and statisticly, yeah, genshin are better, but it become annoying when they saying that other game are bad. so, as little payback, we (honkai player) teased them with "yeah, you are better, but do you treated better tho?"😂
I still cannot forgot when I keep saying Genshin Dev Team should treat their community better and they told me "They already invested the game well unlike giving free rewards in HSR with no content" Idk should they be even proud of that or what is the point of saying that? When HSR have consistent contents (even more now)
HSR is so convinient you will never get burned out with this game, you can always go back when you get tired of it. Plus their past events stays wether if youre a returnee or a new player you can play the past events and earn jades ❤❤
I imagine that he is free for a number of reasons: 1. Because they won a bunch of awards and they want to reward their community. 2. his banner is positioned at not a great time and might not have the greatest sales. They may also have focus testing or community sentiment data that suggest people aren't as excited about him as they are about other characters. So they probably figured out that he might do the most good for the company by being free, in terms of the community sentiment, hype, and free advertising that he buys.
I've gotten into Star Rail since it launched on PS5 which provides a unique perspective, this is the first time PS gamers will have an opportunity to pull for Kafka which is big for opening up DoT comps. It may be a smaller chunk of the playerbase but they reached 1 million PS players in the first 2 months since launch and the game has only gotten more appealing in that time. Peace and Love Gamer!
I think it's also worth mentioning that by giving out Ratio for free, ppl are now more incline to pull on his LC or just try to get his E1 because of how generous starrail is so indirectly the sales of ratio banner together with his lightcone might actually exceed what the sales would be, if they didn't give out ratio for free. Overall I think it's a very smart move from Hoyo team, they get something player also get something, double W.
The most apt and convincing analysis on Dr. Ratio drama! I totally agree on your take! 😲👏 This is the best thing about Mtashed's channel in my opinion...😇👍
One of the things I hate most about genshin is that starrail gets everything we want, relic customiser, more resin, resin holder, bubbles as a pet, and a free 5 star genshin devs are really holding us back by not giving genshin the same stuff as honaki and I keep on asking for it in the surveys.
They're literally giving him out as a reward for winning an award; a dying game won't win an award lol Sure they're taking a revenue loss from people who will now skip his banner, but: 1) he already wasn't going to sell much when compared to other banners, most especially Ruan Mei 2) they're taking a temporary revenue cut in order to gain *MUCH MUCH* more from a reputational gain from doing this, it's a short term loss for major long-term gain thanks to their improved reputation for being generous
kind of crazy that HSR wins game of the year for moblie and they would say the game is dying. sure I think there isnt much to do since planet 2 is done but saying the game is dying would be just outright insane.
The copium is unreal. Yes obviously it's a marketing strategy but does that mean we can't appreciate their generosity? No, gift is gift, whether what the reason is. This copium is like mrbeast hater who always hate mrbeast for being generous cus "he makes more after this video", well duh, where tf he gonna get money to give for if not from his videos?🤦 Other thing is that, the reason we all loudly said "genshin could never" is to convince genshin to be generous too, is that not a good criticism? No wonder genshin never give us anything cus any criticism immediately gets attacked by genshin stans😑
This is how gacha is like, why does HI3 give S rank valks for free when you start the game and is giving another one out? Why did Nikke give hundreds of pulls for their anniversary? Why do some gacha discount stuff on certain events or seasons? It's because this is how you get players to play, spend and maybe stay. Genshin is one of the few gacha that is so stingy it's baffling. Not every free character is a sign of bad times or has a bad kit, especially when they're the new one, in fact it's more surprising that it is a limited unit and not a standard one. Usually your free ones are either standard, lower ranked or older characters.
I saved for Furina, got her. Havent built her, and havent logged in since. Ill check back in, in a few years. Maybe the story will have progressed by then, not holding my breath for end game content tho. So borning.🤣
rather than bored of genshin, i got overwhelmed and saw hsr was a younger game with less story because it was released later, so i tried it out and i got hooked on it
Isnt it wild that when Genshin had its anniversary, HSR still made more money? Isn't that a worse sign than thinking Dr Ratio is free to because the game is dying?
I just used him in a trial in the recent story quest. The one with Asta vanishing (spoiler, she’s fine). And he’s pretty good. Does decent damage. He’s basically imaginary Topaz, but with less follow-up attacks. His ultimate looks pretty cool. Would have been tempted to pull for him during his rerun if he wasn’t made ubiquitous.
not the most popular but the best gacha game i've ever played,i used to play genshin because of the characters but now i can enjoy the characters,the gameplay and a true end game that keeps getting better with a new free 5*
I play Genshin all the time and I have memory-holed that Aloy even exists. When I'm selecting my Spiral Abyss teams, my eyes don't even register that she's there.
The genius thing about his banner is he is paired with Kafka which was hype and a lot of ppl did not get her. its a perfect timing with the game awards and now they paired him with hype character kafka.
They must be learning from Epic Seven cause were constantly getting free 5 stars and gear pretty often there as well. Were just recently able to get a free Moonlight 5 star of our choice after a month of just playing the game. Let alone the new player log in rewards that gave us two sets of great gear(cause vets got it as well) and we just got yet anther round of logins with 5 star tickets for artifacts and a hero. It's pretty crazy.
HSR has much more competition in the turn based genre, while Genshin has an absolute hegemony over the open world mobile game genre. When you want an open world gacha game, it's only Genshin, that's why Genshin devs are so complacent, because there's no competition at all. The power creep in HSR is also much faster than Genshin, they release characters at a faster rate than Genshin (HSR has 17 5* already in 1.6). That's why they give more rewards and even give out a free 5*, even though it's an excellent publicity move.
I feel like a lot of people don't get that the reason genshin doesn't do stuff like this is because it doesn't need too to survive, genshin's playerbase is that big that even if it loses players it doesn't matter THAT much hell it may even gain more on the next update. on the contrary hsr NEEDS to keep + gain players that's why they're more generous, it's not because it's dying it's because they need to gain more.
Best approach to the drama is to ignore the Genhin community(those who are creating conflict, not the chill guys) the devs are ignoring them so why shouldn’t we?🤔
This shouldn't even be a conversation, Honkai Impact 3rd gives free S ranks ALL the time. That game is doing just fine. A free character in star rail literally means nothing in regards to the state of the game.
The "HSR is dying" thing is coming from Genshin players. HSR's income has been higher than Genshin's for a while now and their online reddit users numbers are equal at all times. It's just cope from jealous people.
OF COURSE it's a marketing ploy. How do I know? Because it worked on me. I initially refused to play HSR due to seeing similarities to Epic Seven and Genshin's gearing/artifact systems, which I utterly abhor; however, the news of Dr. Ratio got me to finally give the game a try, and now I'm quite enjoying it. Of course some of that enjoyment is probably because I have had some pretty crazy luck in my first week of playing, but regardless it proves that the marketing strategy worked. I will say that I am disappointed in a few things, such as the inability to get previous event light cones. Looking forward to what the game might hold in the future, who knows, maybe my issues with the game will get alleviated in future updates. I hope for a positive future for the game, something I've not done legitimately for a gacha game in a long time.
It's a publicity move. I play HSR but honetly is not as popular as Genshin so they need a way to attract more people, and it's a quite good move from the HSR team
Where do these mfs come from bro 🗿 I swear these genshin Stan’s find ANYTHING to try and cope. HSR has outsold genshin in revenue every single month, aside from this last one. Genshin needed an ARCHON to overtake HSR’s FILLER patch 💀. Those who say HSR is dying, nida realize that genshin has 3x the players that HSR has. The fact that a game the quarter of ur playerbase is outdoing your game in revenue, should speak to HSR’s success. Turn based games as a whole r just more niche, so it’s only natural for there to be less players. From all the good things the game has done, there really isn’t that many people quitting HSR.
‘wins mobile game of the year’ ‘consistently among the top in revenue among gacha games’ ‘Gives 5* as thanks to the community” Some fans: IS HSR DYING? Yeah there is a weird mental gymnastics happening here
That's exactly what I felt. I wanted a game that I can play casually while I'm out of content for Genshin. And HSR is the cheapest version and it's really fun too.
6:14 I trully believe that, I've tried multiple turn based games in the past and never liked (besides card games and pokemon). But my friend really got me into this game and its really good indeed
might not be as successful as genshin but its #2 in monthly revenue vs all other gacha titles iirc in the monthly revenue stats so its still doing good
I gotta say, I think Honkai Star Rail is doing everything genshin should have done in the beginning but at the same time, I don't think honkai star rail would be the same without the mistakes from early stages of genshin.
The main difference is that the Star Rail devs listen to the plea of their community, they take their plea and make the game better for the community to enjoy while in Genshin, yes sometimes the devs listen but most of the time their plea is ignored and thus a rift between it's community and the devs is being formed.
I didn't realize until recently that there were different devs for the games. I thought it was just 1 company focusing on all the games at once. I am really glad they are listening to their community. I believe that genshin is working on it though. They're adding minor changes but it shows.@@idontspeakjapanese6289
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 Hoyo listened to Genshin players complain and implemented them in Star Rail instead to attract players from Genshin . At this point HSR is benefiting from the Genshin hate from players otherwise it wouldn’t have been that popular. Da Wei has a hardcore favouritism towards Honkai projects.
i don't think anyone's saying the game is dead because of the free ratio. just people saying that he's free because he's gonna be bad, which is also wrong. it's literally just to celebrate the award and they would be absolutely stupid if they made ruan mei the free character instead. (since she was the first character to release after VGAs)
The best thing I did was, stop playing genshin. It just became boring and the exploration for me is just saturated and exhausting. I rather play HSR, I'm really invested in the future of this game which is way more promising than genshin.
I was even going to pull for him because I like his kit. also way before the announcement, just during his introduction, everyone is already heads over heels for him in HSR groups.
Is it that hard to comprehend that when you win three awards, it wouldn’t be out of the ordinary to reward the players who helped obtained them?
Of course not. Look at genshin when they won 2021 Best Mobile Game, 2022 Player's Voice Award, and 2022 Still Playing Award. They give out 800 primos, in a span of 4 days! How cool is that!
They're too used to getting a bad treatment from genshin. Other gacha games are quite generous compared to genshin lol. Honkai impact and Honkai Star Rail are just few examples of it.
@@youandme8076definitely Genshin fanbase too busy eating the yellow snow to realize how bad they have it
for genshin player who get 10 pulls and a chicken every anniversary? Yeah, absolutely.
Is it that hard to comprehend that this video is not just about dr ratio, and it is in fact about everything they've done. Why do you refuse to give them credit for it?
Dude I'm a huge fan of Genshin but I kinda like HSR more almost because of how much love and care is being put into it by the devs. I get excited for the surveys because I feel like I can actually give feedback that might be considered for once. There's no way HSR is dying for me when it's too much fun.
That's so true man. I love how the devs of HSR are really putting care to the game, they hear us out and, that sht really entices me to put some money into the game. And since I got into HSR after playing genshin, I felt lot less stressed, like, HSR fanbase is actually healthier.
@@Kioh. Yeah. This last survey I asked if they could work on allowing players to preselect what 2pc relic set they want to drop in SimU or an alternative to farm them easier. It's really frustrating and discouraging doing a 20-40 min run for only 4 drop opportunities and only receive 0-2 pieces of the set you're trying to farm. You can't even craft them like the 4pc sets so that makes it even harder.
Edit: OMG you're right I don't know how I overlooked it. Farming Inert Salsotto has been a nightmare and this will hopefully allow me get those elusive ATK ropes🤞
@arreis7866 You can craft them but I fully agree that the SimU relics need an easier way to farm them. They are kind of annoying.
@@Kioh.Your money is still going to hoyoverse dummy
This! it feels that my feedbacks on every survey were read at least once
Having a small dedicated community that is passionate about their game is better than a big community that doesn't care about their game.
Edit: Love reading all the comments and seeing everyone's pov!
true look at honkai impact 3rd perfect example i think
Even though I think hi3rd is overhyped as shit, and not as AMAZING as people say, it's still a good game and a good example of this
@@Accountthatexistsstory aspect is great
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@@Accountthatexists this dumb again
It literally won the best mobile game. No way its dying xD It is not as popular as Genshin but it is surely isnt dying. I saw somewhere it had like 30Mil monthly active players. Which is a lot. And Giving Free New 5 star will further improve its player count and player base. Its the BIGGEST W HSR has done which Genshin has failed to do since it came out in 2020.
It makes no sense when a game every few weeks is making 15mil+ (since those calculations from that one website aren't WORLDWIDE) and i don't think when a game is making that much money, i don't think it's a flop
Ofc it's not dying maybe a few people leaving the game but that it's normal almost with every game. It won't get the same amount of players as genshin only because of the combat system and a lot people say it's boring (and haven't even tried once). So it's still really good for a turn based mobile game
Who ever it was who think Star Rail was dying is literally brain dead LMAO, sure it's not as popular as Genshin, but it has a dedicated community, look at Hi3rd.
It's still very popular though, but i don't understand why it's gotta be a competition , it's a turn based game vs an Open world , their sales might've went down the last few patches but these patches were filler, there are people comparing Genshin's sales when Furina came out to Honkai's HouHou sales like give me a break it's the same damn company guys😂
@@idontspeakjapanese6289true a game that charged $1800 for the unit + wep and full stigmata, total of 300+ pity (new units will put them in the bin) and hi3 story being absolutely ass, copied of other animes, and predictable + lazy af with how they reused plot armor and random anime power up in their game for 40+ chaptets.
Regarding HSR, going from $100m+ to $20m when GI consistently get $50m+ is a bad sign for HSR.
200+ days of filler too, HSR might as well be a dead game.
Its to be expected that an open world games like genshin will have a larger player base than HSR which is a turn based game. It may not surpass genshin's average popularity but it will have a solid dedicated player base that enjoys the game.
I mean before maybe but i think now honkai have more player base since u can look how active community the view on yt and like on both facebook and reddit is both higher
of course so, that is how the game is designed, genshin has 2000 people for dev whereas HSR has only 500
@@peak407 Star Rail is great but don't fool yourself. 60 million people aren't playing
@@infinitekg6537 i didn't fool myself tho i tell from what i see u can go see for yourself
@@peak407 just did. Approximately 22million active players. Nowhere close to 60million
If you follow leaks and info about Dr Ratio before the game was ever nominated, it’s basically his same kit currently. It’s pretty obvious they had him as a fully fledged limited unit that would need to be pulled to obtain. They just decided to do something nice.
Are there benefits of doing this in order to draw in new and old players back into the game also? Of course. But they aren’t doing it because “they’re desperate” or whatever the hell people are saying
Bruh you should see some people said to me "if they are really nice they would give 5* Limited Selector", what a braindead comment.
We were never know they would gave us free 5* Limited to begin with, it's like those people given 100$ and when they are homeless and then demanded 1000$ instead.
In the end he still a free 5* Limited unit, that's not gonna changed.
Honestly it's the only logical explanation on why Starrail gets better rewards than Genshin.
It doesn't depend on developers being nice, it depends on strategic business decisions intended to increase profits.
@@TheMattVis bruh, you can’t please some people. Wow that’s…something XD
@@spiderdude2099 a lot of people coping like that dude, they were either:
1. Say Ratio would be a bad unit cause it's free, or
2. Say the rewards is not good enough.
They compeletely disregard the fact we got 5* Limited for free to begin with, doesn't matter if he's good or not, It just the fact they can do this now, they open the possibility to do it again in the future.
@@TheMattVisbruh, limited 5* selector is too much. Hsr already got a guaranteed tutorial banner, standard 5* selector and a free limited, they're being too nice to the players, even genshin can't do any of that.
The idea that the game that’s pulled in hundreds of millions of dollars in less than a year is dying, it so incredibly absurd 😂
Exactly like a game will only die if the servers are shutdown
Starrail can never die because the game was never meant to be comptetitive,its a turn based game with a decent story,and easy "combat mechanic" that anyone can master in a week of gameplay
A game will never die, as long as it has a dedicated community, L4d2 and Skyrim is a testament to that.
Yep, game can die only if it has p2w PvP content
@@tartagliax804genshin and star rail are made by completely different teams. Star rail actually cares about players because players care about their game. You can’t say anything bad about genshin even if constructive - genshin players would eat hoyo’s shit and ask for a bigger spoon
@@naw613 you seem to have things mixed up, they "care" more about their playerbase because hsr isnt as big or successful as genshin, and theyre trying so desperately to bring in every genshin player. Theyre still one big greedy company that profits off gullible people like you.
@@tartagliax804 That's some weird reasoning. You are disappointed in the fanbase, but the company (and its games) is what you are not gonna support? A lot of games have a bad fanbase, good games too, but the creators are the ones who need support.
Not only HSR has a different dev team, who are gonna make many QoL changes/content and marketing moves because of the competition, but also the fanbase is a bit different. Of course, there are Genshin players who play HSR too, but ultimately the games are of different genre (really, apparently a lot of people don't like turn-based games), which would already divide a lot of people, and it is also Honkai - would attract some of the older fanbase of HI3.
What’s crazy is Instead of congratulating HSR for getting best mobile game and getting rewarded for it, Genshin players/fans/Stans whatever… can’t just be happy for HSR players and say “that’s really awesome, happy for y’all gettin a free character, keep it up” No. They have to downplay a character THAT HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED & can’t compliment the fact that the game is successful and it’s sad to hear & see. This is coming from someone who still plays Genshin & LOVES Ayaka to death
It's really sad indeed. I've never cringed so hard in my life than when I surfed the genshin subreddit the day free Ratio was announced. The amount of hipocrisy and copium was, and still is, insane and people there just agree without a second thought, which seems like brainwashery to me.
I mean don't act like Star Rail fans don't do the same in the reverse with bragging and having a superiority complex over a mobile gacha game.
Hsr fans are the one making fun of genshin cus they got the free five star tbh, that's all I've seen since its been announced
@@mintsugasThat's because a lot HSR players/fans are also seasoned Genshin players, who are literally furious for supporting the game for like 3+ years now and their plea is not being heard, the 1st year anniversary was that trigger. While in HSR, the game is only out for months but it has a lot of QoL and the best part of that is the devs are actually listening to their community, there is a communication.
@@mintsugas I’ve seen the jokes and memes being made online about Genshin right now. Yes, that is unfortunate. But I personally don’t want misinformation being spread about a unreleased unit who’s numbers and kit we still don’t have full clarity on. That’s all I’m saying
At least Dr.Ratio has an actual functioning kit that works and was clearly meant to be a limited unit based on leaks. Meanwhile in genshin the only free 5 start we haver ever gotten is aloy who was forgotten with in the first 2 days of her release and than we have the abomination that was Dehya being nerfed to the ground after they decided to make her a standard character after they realized "Maybe no one is willing to pull this character after so many nerfs and not having a functional kit".
I will never forgive them for Dehya. Such a wonderful character not deep persay but fun in that Mercenary life but softening to a client trope. Very nice design.... then she takes alot of work and god artifacts to work, dies almost instantly in multiplayer boss arenas. I mean I guess luckily overworld is so smash my face on the keyboard easy her kit doesn't matter in that regard but it still sucks, and they will probably never buff her either.
so just because Dehya is trash, that is what make you hate genshin? bro--
@@DeezSnowflakesAreInsane Never said I hated Genshin. There are a variety of reasons why it's last on my Hoyoverse rankings but it still has some novelty to me. I keep up with main story at most now a days.
@@Delkes66 was talking to the person above you.
People say that Dr Ratio is free because he'll be bad, that's just dirty of a mind people have, we don't even know how he'll perform just yet, so assuming that a character is free while saying he'll be bad is an understatement, the reason I think having Dr Ratio being free was a good idea mainly due to Kafka being on there on the same phase so people won't have to decide to pull for.
People? you mean that just one guy in reddit who made that post
I was gonna Choose Dr Ratio over Kafka but since he's Free. I'll eiether Pick up Kafka or have Even more savings for and after Sparkle. (A win win)
@@IdeasAreBulletproof What about Black Swan?
Funny enough leaks show he's busted. Strongest stc in the game.
free because bad? lol. he buried selee already
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The thing with Dr Ratio is that his kit is actually really really good I'd probably say is the most unique out of any character in the game.
Thing is he makes the supports a Dps cause everytime they attack, Dr Ratio does a follow up. making it so that in 4 turns, he's doing 4x the amount of damage he's suppose to do.
Frr
@@stuffzluvverz_7665 sorry to wake you up but his follow up atk is limited to 2 time max.
And no he is not as unique as you talking about. Not when characters like Kafka exist.
@@theolailheugue9402 Lol Kafka isn't unique, she is a DoT enabler who's doomed to be a sub-dps to Acheron
It’s crazy how people don’t realize this is all carefully orchestrated Furina is abt to be the peak of Fontaine after that it’s pretty much filler until natlan they are promoting HSR so the focus is switched back to hsr for 2.0 at the end of the day Hoyoverse is the winner
What is HSR???
@@poke8391 Honkai Star Rail
@@poke8391Honkai Star Rail
Its amazing how quickly people forget its a business lol. Oh and look! The Raiden banner (historically the best selling) is available right in time for the holidays! Gee whiz, sure does suck that 4.3 also happens to have the lowest primogem count in months, guess there is no other choice than to swipe! Its all marketing and maneuvering your product around that market, if you think about it this way then none of this is that surprising.
@@OinklyFunny I said someone said "They are doing it cause it's a marketing campaign to win over social media".
Yeah no shit, and they success doing it lol
I said this on reddit and I'll say it again
"I wonder if people will realize or figure out that Genshin player count/popularity is not normal and inflated due to its release window/timing and being the first of its kind. Like all these first-time gacha/game players coming from genshin don't realize gifts/rewards don't mean a game is dying or players are leaving."
Genshin is a quality game, so ofc it will have higher playerbase
Lot of people that never played gacha or actual games swarming in genshin lol
I played a lot of gacha games and they have always hidden intention when they are being generous, mostly for marketing purposes or retaining players and hiding their powercreep issue. Bro its almost 2024 now your reason for genshin popularity is too old, their current player base is still above average while the game that released in covid like among us failed to retain the players they got on pandemic. Currently there's still a lot of new players joining on genshin but I think a lot of old players especially from covid time are already quit. Let's be real the more you play genshin the more you hate it because open world is getting repetitive especially on Sumer u and genshin lack endgame or replayibility value.
@@tidf-wh1zgi mean what's wrong with hidden intentions? The old player got the rewards, they got new/returning players, it's a win-win situation and that's what other gacha games do. Genshin is the weird one here, they don't give rewards, sht anni and lack of QoL.
@@tidf-wh1zgI agree about the generosity often implying some other intention and it’s maddening to see people outright say that doesn’t happen instead of just being truthful and saying they don’t think it’s the case here. If Genshin had a lot of competitors and was losing a lot players I’m sure they’d be super generous to you know *compete*
Dr.ratio went from a meh character to one of my favorites suddenly all these L+Ratio jokes are funny and I swear he’s more handsome now
L ratio became meta
Silliest thing I’ve heard, how can it be dying if it’s winning awards
"Starrail wins an award"
Genshin stans:Starrail is a shit game, bad game
Imagine saying that when GI get matched with real games 😂😂😂.
HSR didnt had to fight against god of war or cyberpunk coz its a mobile game so its competitor were a bunch of nameless mobile games that nobody had heard of.
If they didnt win I would probably quit HSR out of embarassment.
@@Qopayou dont need to tell everyone that you are a delusional genshin fan xD
(I play it too, but its nothing against honkai universe. Its just more popular because of open world and honkai has less popular game mechanics)
@@kvN1005i’m so confused why do people fight over this so much
your money is going to the same company
@kvN1005 bro I don't even play GI that much. I don't have to be a GI fan to say that HSR content update flow is fking ass since the 1.1-1.5 updates.
Ratio does look fully fleshed out, so I think his gifting was "kind of" a spontaneous celebration for the game awards. Its been clear from the jade vs primo monthly count and the other rewards that HSR has had the green light from Hoyo to give better incentives. For various reasons, no doubt. HSR devs were probably told by accounting and marketing departments months ago that they could give a free 5 star. They played it smart and waited for a good opportunity to arise. Cue a healthy dose of success from the Game Awards + gap after Fontaine and its time to strike while the iron is hot. My guess is they chose him for the free slot over Ruan Mei after they got banner projections from the beta server. Let's be real, we know what sells in this community so Ruan Mei being free wasn't an option for them lol. And that's how we got Dr. Ratio, and also why I highly doubt the notion that he's free because he's bad.
I'd honestly take the guy named Dr. Ratio. That's the funniest thing ever to me since you literally Ratio your opponents using him.
As very low spender, welkin and occasional BP, this kind of stuff makes me more willing to spend and support the game. I try to balance what I spend and always appreciate extra content/events and free chars.
Same, but I only bought 3 BP in the past due to the resoursces were very scarce at launch with so many characters. Now they are giving even a free Ratio, I think I will buy this patch and next patch BP for the resources alone.
HSR has been generating more revenue than Genshin has in the past couple of months according to sensor tower. Genshin had more revenue in November but that’s because furina came out and topaz and houhou weren’t that hyped. Hsr has been doing close to or better than Genshin has revenue wise the past few months, so no HSR is certainly not dying.
You forgot that HSR has been selling character back to back, in 1.0 to 1.6 alone, there are 14 limited characters, which is 2 new limited characters every updated, while in Genshin, theres only 10 and this type of aggressive strategy, marketing, and being a hoyo game helps push HSR sales , making sure that there are still sales regardles if its high or low.
On Ios sales alone, only the first patches (Seele,Jingyuan, SW) has high sales and theres no repeats.
It isnt dying for sure because of this strategy.
HSR will not die, even tho their player base is small compare to genshin, their playerbase appear to have more spenders and whales than genshin.
@@Mariuslorcasaying like gensbin not selling character too
Lol it isn't. It will take some time to surpass genshin's revenue
@@shutup1037 They are selling thats for sure, compared to HSR, Genshin has updates with only Reruns+ unpopular characters thats are still giving them high revenues compared to HSR new unpopular characters.
based on the previous sensor tower revenue, 30 million + only in reruns + 1 unpopular character, thats really good compared to HSR high revenue because of its aggressive strategy.
Tbh i didnt played genshin for about 8 months since ive gotten into hsr, it is so relaxing to do dailies, less burnt out for relic farming and character ascending, so rewarding every new patch (i have never watched genshin live stream cause its boring to me ) but i didnt missed any of hsr livestreams plus character design is more mature and appealing to me in hsr.
Same
I started playing hsr for under a month ago. And I actually have a alot of enjoyment from this than I did with Genshin for over a year and a half. Not to mention I like playing Turn-based games in general. Seeing the 1.6 updates and the content it'll bring was nuts. On top of Dr. Ratio for free? They got me hooked on this.
I enjoy HSR a lot. It has pretty much everything I was looking for in a game I can have in my pocket. I’ll keep supporting it as long as I feel valued and the game is around. Can’t wait for Penacony.
Have to remember that Genshin Impact came out in 2020 during the pandemic where everyone was at home and they built a huge player base off that. Of course Star Rail isn't going to have anywhere close to the same amount of players as Genshin Impact.
I can see it as a difference between quality and quantity. Genshin has like "quantity" player while HSR has "quality" players. Just an opinion tho.
@@phxgamingxd-hatdogedition1157 everyone has their own advantages, HSR and GI... I've been playing HSR since it was first released, and I don't know why the main story updates are so slow... we only got the main story in patch 1.2 and continued briefly in 1.3 just for the farewell dialogue --__-- In terms of content, I really approve of HSR, the development team is better than GI
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@@Reverse1999-er9vzFYI the belobog, and HuoHuo's big event, was main story, true 1.3 was kinda short, but if you count the companion mission in, it is part of the main story and gives it more lenght
Just because its not shown as the regular yellow color, it does not mean its not main story
@@hvcskmagyar the huohuo/topaz story is just a continuous story like Ruan Mei's continuous story in 1.6 later, obviously it's not the main story :) in GI we call it a story event :)
@@Reverse1999-er9vz For me (maybe this is me sucking the HSR Dev Team's dick), I was kinda into the stories they've been cooking. Compared to the Belobog story quest tho, it probably had a much lesser "impact" so to speak. However, I was really enjoying the kind of "filler" story and companion quests as theygive off a "slice-of-life" feel to it. Maybe this is my mentally ill side speaking but I was really immersed with the story and made me sometimes forget the current life problems I'm facing as a student.
Just wanted to say that I'm here thanks to their marketing, lol! Star Rail has been on the periphery for some time but having it win at the Game Awards, PLUS getting a 5-star for free got me sold. Seeing Ruan Mei's drip marketing helped more than I'm willing to admit, haha!
The changes that HSR are making is great, and I already know the new planet is going to be amazing. I just don’t see them dropping the ball. (Also I quite enjoyed the ghost event) liked the cast of characters they chose. Regardless of all of that I’ve seen people say ad nauseam that mihoyo will give up on hsr and put all their efforts into genshin… hi3 is even less popular than hsr yet from what I’ve heard remains to get love. People act like great games from the same company can’t coexist.
No star rail wont die nor it will be dropped by hoyo but no matter what they do star rail wont be as popular as genshin since it simply lacks content , genshin just gets bigger and bigger with every update , with more world , quests , lore while star rail is only adding more levels to already existing content and its not enough to beat genshin , not to mention them totally dropping lore and story with how they added 3 hours of main story during all the 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 and 1.6 patches . Compared to like 25 hours of fontaine archon quest alone together with another 25 hours or more of narzissenkruez world questline and other world quest and story quests in 4.0 4.1 and 4.2 alone
@@generaltoszur1036 Im not far into genshin (recently started playing it) but one thing I can say is that there’s a lot to do. I do think people downplay how much content hsr has, but I do agree it’s no where near as much as genshin. But I do think the content we do get on hsr is entertaining even if it’s not a lot of it.
@@generaltoszur1036 Strange comparison of minor patches with Fontaine one, as if it wasn't one of the major patches and goddamn archon quest
@@munchkintaker4263 and what do you mean minor patches later one s maybe but what about patches like 1m1 and 1.2 they were literally the First patches game got and 1.1 gave no main story , 1.2 gave 2 hours of luofu nonsense and 1.3 gave 30 minutes of nonsense
@@generaltoszur1036 And? I am talking about things like 2.0 - this is the first major patch. But you compare it to a damn Fontaine, that appeared years later after the game's release. You can't simply compare it like that, since Genshin was quite like that at the beginning too.
Considering how you downplay everything to nonsense, I also can downplay a lot of stuff in Genshin to nonsense that exists only to fill in the story lenght, but in even bigger amount - boring and bland, repetitive too. It is very convenient to close eyes on the problems that Genshin has, which is what people sick of, and then criticize the other game that has the same kind of problems (like every gacha to an extent) but actually adds more gameplay to balance the content drought. It is not for Genshin fans to talk about lacking and stagnated content.
Not to mention, you seem to disregard the expansion on lore during all those patches, which is very dishonest.
It is genuilly Nuts how much these genshin stans are trying to downplay this game, it is nuts and makes NO SENSE why they hate starrail this much, i just don't understand it
Gi players are salty, chaotic and ... Wriothesley buns and breast jingle physics ... ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I think its cause people like me love to make fun of how hard Genshin stans cope when Star Rail rewards its players this well because Genshin could never. 😂
@@chesterkuro15bernoulli75not really relevant.....but also wrio is hot, also punching people cool as shit
I am making fun of genshin stans wherever I can because they are so salty. And I love the entertainment
@@harr0wing890ya probaly and people saying this "is a bad thing" I HIGHLY DISAGREE, cause it's just that when genshin players went over to starrail, they realized HOW MUCH BETTER they get treated for being loyal players then when they played genshin and got treated like shit for being loyal and its annoying seeing genshin stans say "starrail players need to stop shitting on gensbin" and i think that's a GOOD THING that genshin gets shit, cause then it wake other gensbin players up to the reality that they CAN BE TREATED SO MUCH BETTER then they are now
HSR doing this was the smartest (and nicest) thing ever, while people were gonna pull on his banner it wasn't really gonna be that high especially considering the 4 stars were crap. Now I'm not saying that was the reason they made him free, I genuinely believe that it was their way of repaying back the community with sincerity considering the HSR team actually listens to the players. While money might not have been on their minds while giving Dr. Ratio away, it will leave a good impact on the player base and entice people to play which will more than make up for the "loss" of giving him away for free. Overall, I truly like Genshin Impact but them doing something like this entices me to actually put a bit of money into the game since our voices are being heard.
this is just a HYV tragedy to make player play HSR instead of genshin. genshin is already popular and HYV wanted their another game to be successful too. if they put everything like Endgame content or increase resin and put what their genshin playerbase want. the more they put what we want, the more people who play HSR because genshin doesn’t add what they want, they will quit hsr and play genshin again.
i think MHY is trying to make their game’s balanced like-
genshin have: open world,lore while HSR have endgame,resin increase or you want genshin to have Combat focus game then play ZENLESS ZONE ZERO
they wanted their games to have balanced so that they want YOU to play both games.
Basically both sides wins,they get marketing,and we get a free character that is really good
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It's been brought to my attention that Genshin Lab's estimations aren't to be taken anywhere close to fact, as they seem to have a reputation for estimating based largely on app rankings, which can vary wildly on the overall quality of a patch, series of patches or other trands related tot he game, not just on the banner.
Leaving my original post in case anyone wants to roast me for this, or any of my other points.
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The Genshin Lab revenue numbers only takes into account iOS numbers from China. The fact that HSR has already made nearly a quarter billion in revenue from that alone tells me they're probably well over a billion for overall revenue, especially since iOS's market share in China is less than a third of what Android is. Another thing to consider, is that HSR doesn't take nearly as much effort for development as Genshin, since the world isn't nearly as big, so I'd say Hoyo are doing VERY well with this game, despite it not reaching the same numbers that Genshin has. In the least, the cost of development is likely a lot smaller.
Also, HSR may have fallen off from its day 1 revenue, but if you compare the iOS China revenue, you'll see that a lot of Genshin's banners average between $10 mil and $20 mil, which is very similar to HSR's current trend, and there are plenty that have made less than $10 mil. Heck, the only banner on Genshin to exceed Seele's first banner for Chinese iOS revenue was the Hu Tao/Yelan rerun banner!
Anyway, I imagine that HSR is probably a lot bigger in China than it is everywhere else, and the gap in popularity between the two franchises is probably a lot smaller in China than it is in the rest of the world. But the fact that it won Mobile Game of the Year tells me that, globally, it's doing exceptionally well for the time being.
Honkailab/genshinlab is inaccurate AF, their revenue computation is way less than sensor tower computation.
I mean,every game has Its peak revenue day 1 (99% of the time)
@@Ocacadordecasadas Well yeah, that goes without saying. HSR has the potential to break Selee revenue if they rerun Jingliu with another banger character, much like how Genshin reached its peak month with Yelan's first rerun by featuring her with Hu Tao. Turns out featuring two of the most desired characters together does wonders for sales. If there is one thing that would (and probably will) prevent HSR from ever breaking Seele banner sales though, it would be that Hoyo had already reached peak popularity at the time of HSR's release, and a majority of the game's fans come from Genshin and HI3.
@@tidf-wh1zg Thanks for pointing that out. I looked up further details, and I didn't realize that Genshin Lab's numbers came from a group that has a bad reputation.
Genshin fans just can't handle that HSR fans are getting treated better than them. XD
Anyone who says Honkai Star Rail is Dying given it's explosive support from HoYo and Blissful Joy it's brought to it's Player base is either Tunnel-vision Blind, Tone-deaf or had to listen To CLAPTRAP Talk for more than thirty seconds.
I’m certain he’s free exactly *because* the game isn’t dead
ye they wouldnt really give away a free character if they were doing bad revenue wise lmao
Dr. Ratio is giving players a free education which I find really interesting considering he’s an academic. So this whole getting him for free really adds to the character in the end. Great vid
I just finished the fungus fighting event in Genshin a few days ago, and Aetherium Wars blew it out of the galaxy.
HONKAI STAR RAIL JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER !!!!!!
GO TRY IT!!!!
I’ve been playing HSR every single day since launch and I am someone who doesn’t like gacha or live service games but I love the game! They really knock it out the park and I preach how good the game is to everyone I know and its funny considering I’m someone against live service/gacha and I still support it bc they respect the playerbase
Honestly what a great video and also great look on the PR/Advertising side that most people would normally overlook. Even myself as a PR/Advertising major, that always tries to take into account marketing of video games, found this video exceptionally good
You’re a great person and content creator, seriously. Keep up the great work!
I agree with what you said, and I will add that for new players coming in, having an imaginary dps to mix in with the starting roster will be great. If people are lucky enough to pull Welt off the standard before the 300 mark, cool, but other than that, Yukong is the only img you are going to have. Personally I nabbed DHIL as soon as he came out for that very reason. I finally got Welt as my freebie because aside from still not having a single Bailu after 6 months of playing, my luck with standard characters has been hit or miss.
As someone who played genshin daily and achieved my personal goal when i started genshin which was clear the abyss, I am at a comfortable position in the game where i still have plenty to explore, can collect my dailys and do events and basically pull when i want a character or hyper invest in ones i loved. Now i have started my Hsr journey and while brand new and getting used to stuff the free dr ratio is gonna be so good for my account regardless and i have plenty of primos saved 10k for ruan mei being 70 into pity etc...Hoyo is killing hsr and i love it and both of the games.
Furina is home, Fontaine is over, it's time for Honaki Star Rail, see you in Natlan.
Im so happy about this! I was allready hyped about the new place in game coming out and now we get a free 5 star! Its great!
They know 2.0 is coming. Alot of players left, and there's a lot of new players to be had, the game has optimized all the bugs/quality of life/endgame etc. Penacony will be beautiful and there will be tons of new lore and characters. Get players to log in in order to claim their free 5 star, then hook them in with the new content. It's genius really
We are a small comic book shop in Alaska and you will find our staff regularly on their iPads playing HSR 😂 Can’t see how it’s a dying game yet ❤
Imagine what they will do during the 1 year anniversary for the game I hope it will be something like a free standard five star so I can finally get that bronya or himeko or something. But the one thing I learned from the livestream is that we need to let them cook again 🔥🔥🔥
Nobody get too close to Genshins Copium tank with an open flame, you could accidentally set off the next Tunguska Event.
"They gave a free 5 star because the gake is dying"
Is probably the biggest copium I have seen someone ever say
Genshin player logic is if it's not as popular as their game then it must be dying lol.
I love this game, after 10 days I finally did everything and I'm now lvl 50 TL and waiting each day to do dailies and the next patch to get Blade :3
I'm not really a Gacha enjoyer, Genshin ultimatly wasn't for me because I didnd't know about the currency traps and how hard it is to get a character.
This game, if you research a little bit before starting so you avoid fucking your resources, is absolutely amazing. The way you have to strategize each fight with the resources you get feels amazing + I noticed you can clear everything with F2P character easily (I got Welt from Beginner and he didn't really click with me, but I continued and enjoyed the entire story with the normals characters and had a blast).
Overall with 150 hours, I had my fill for 0 euros :)
PD: Im in dire need of a DPS so Dr. Ratio is a god sent, I don't enjoy Sushang or Dan Heng
as hi3 and hsr player, what really annoying about "some" of genshin fandom is their pride, they always mentioned that genshin are better than both honkai game. Generally and statisticly, yeah, genshin are better, but it become annoying when they saying that other game are bad. so, as little payback, we (honkai player) teased them with "yeah, you are better, but do you treated better tho?"😂
I really agree!!
I still cannot forgot when I keep saying Genshin Dev Team should treat their community better and they told me "They already invested the game well unlike giving free rewards in HSR with no content" Idk should they be even proud of that or what is the point of saying that? When HSR have consistent contents (even more now)
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It is to attract new players,they have been advertising it in ads. It is gacha afterall.
HSR is so convinient you will never get burned out with this game, you can always go back when you get tired of it. Plus their past events stays wether if youre a returnee or a new player you can play the past events and earn jades ❤❤
I imagine that he is free for a number of reasons: 1. Because they won a bunch of awards and they want to reward their community. 2. his banner is positioned at not a great time and might not have the greatest sales. They may also have focus testing or community sentiment data that suggest people aren't as excited about him as they are about other characters.
So they probably figured out that he might do the most good for the company by being free, in terms of the community sentiment, hype, and free advertising that he buys.
I've gotten into Star Rail since it launched on PS5 which provides a unique perspective, this is the first time PS gamers will have an opportunity to pull for Kafka which is big for opening up DoT comps. It may be a smaller chunk of the playerbase but they reached 1 million PS players in the first 2 months since launch and the game has only gotten more appealing in that time. Peace and Love Gamer!
I think it's also worth mentioning that by giving out Ratio for free, ppl are now more incline to pull on his LC or just try to get his E1 because of how generous starrail is so indirectly the sales of ratio banner together with his lightcone might actually exceed what the sales would be, if they didn't give out ratio for free. Overall I think it's a very smart move from Hoyo team, they get something player also get something, double W.
Yeah thats the thing with star rail for me, genshin always felt like an abusive relationship but star rail respects your time
He's free because he is UBIQUITOUS🔥🔥🔥
The most apt and convincing analysis on Dr. Ratio drama! I totally agree on your take! 😲👏
This is the best thing about Mtashed's channel in my opinion...😇👍
One of the things I hate most about genshin is that starrail gets everything we want, relic customiser, more resin, resin holder, bubbles as a pet, and a free 5 star genshin devs are really holding us back by not giving genshin the same stuff as honaki and I keep on asking for it in the surveys.
Star rail is low-key designed as a side game
They're literally giving him out as a reward for winning an award; a dying game won't win an award lol
Sure they're taking a revenue loss from people who will now skip his banner, but: 1) he already wasn't going to sell much when compared to other banners, most especially Ruan Mei 2) they're taking a temporary revenue cut in order to gain *MUCH MUCH* more from a reputational gain from doing this, it's a short term loss for major long-term gain thanks to their improved reputation for being generous
kind of crazy that HSR wins game of the year for moblie and they would say the game is dying. sure I think there isnt much to do since planet 2 is done but saying the game is dying would be just outright insane.
The copium is unreal. Yes obviously it's a marketing strategy but does that mean we can't appreciate their generosity? No, gift is gift, whether what the reason is. This copium is like mrbeast hater who always hate mrbeast for being generous cus "he makes more after this video", well duh, where tf he gonna get money to give for if not from his videos?🤦
Other thing is that, the reason we all loudly said "genshin could never" is to convince genshin to be generous too, is that not a good criticism? No wonder genshin never give us anything cus any criticism immediately gets attacked by genshin stans😑
This is how gacha is like, why does HI3 give S rank valks for free when you start the game and is giving another one out? Why did Nikke give hundreds of pulls for their anniversary? Why do some gacha discount stuff on certain events or seasons? It's because this is how you get players to play, spend and maybe stay.
Genshin is one of the few gacha that is so stingy it's baffling. Not every free character is a sign of bad times or has a bad kit, especially when they're the new one, in fact it's more surprising that it is a limited unit and not a standard one. Usually your free ones are either standard, lower ranked or older characters.
I saved for Furina, got her. Havent built her, and havent logged in since. Ill check back in, in a few years. Maybe the story will have progressed by then, not holding my breath for end game content tho. So borning.🤣
I’m in the same boat and i even managed to get her weapon. Then the hsr update came and i effin bailed 😂
rather than bored of genshin, i got overwhelmed and saw hsr was a younger game with less story because it was released later, so i tried it out and i got hooked on it
Isnt it wild that when Genshin had its anniversary, HSR still made more money? Isn't that a worse sign than thinking Dr Ratio is free to because the game is dying?
I just used him in a trial in the recent story quest. The one with Asta vanishing (spoiler, she’s fine). And he’s pretty good. Does decent damage. He’s basically imaginary Topaz, but with less follow-up attacks. His ultimate looks pretty cool. Would have been tempted to pull for him during his rerun if he wasn’t made ubiquitous.
not the most popular but the best gacha game i've ever played,i used to play genshin because of the characters but now i can enjoy the characters,the gameplay and a true end game that keeps getting better with a new free 5*
I play Genshin all the time and I have memory-holed that Aloy even exists. When I'm selecting my Spiral Abyss teams, my eyes don't even register that she's there.
The genius thing about his banner is he is paired with Kafka which was hype and a lot of ppl did not get her. its a perfect timing with the game awards and now they paired him with hype character kafka.
And, Black Swan, the perfect duo for Kafka is literally coming in 2.0. Is really a genius move by the HSR devs. I love this game fr.
Too bad they have to endure that shitty 4 star lineup on the 2nd phase to get her.
They must be learning from Epic Seven cause were constantly getting free 5 stars and gear pretty often there as well. Were just recently able to get a free Moonlight 5 star of our choice after a month of just playing the game. Let alone the new player log in rewards that gave us two sets of great gear(cause vets got it as well) and we just got yet anther round of logins with 5 star tickets for artifacts and a hero. It's pretty crazy.
Star rail was dying? = NO
It was becoming quite abit less popular? = Yes
Good. Nobody want to get Genshin amount of drama
HSR has much more competition in the turn based genre, while Genshin has an absolute hegemony over the open world mobile game genre. When you want an open world gacha game, it's only Genshin, that's why Genshin devs are so complacent, because there's no competition at all. The power creep in HSR is also much faster than Genshin, they release characters at a faster rate than Genshin (HSR has 17 5* already in 1.6). That's why they give more rewards and even give out a free 5*, even though it's an excellent publicity move.
Turn based gacha games have more competition... Even with all that HSR being in a good spot
I feel like a lot of people don't get that the reason genshin doesn't do stuff like this is because it doesn't need too to survive, genshin's playerbase is that big that even if it loses players it doesn't matter THAT much hell it may even gain more on the next update.
on the contrary hsr NEEDS to keep + gain players that's why they're more generous, it's not because it's dying it's because they need to gain more.
Best approach to the drama is to ignore the Genhin community(those who are creating conflict, not the chill guys) the devs are ignoring them so why shouldn’t we?🤔
Word of mouth... I'm only playing because of your enthusiasm for it. I'm glad I listened to what you had to say.
This shouldn't even be a conversation, Honkai Impact 3rd gives free S ranks ALL the time. That game is doing just fine. A free character in star rail literally means nothing in regards to the state of the game.
HSR and AetherGazer are the only 2 gacchas where every update feels massive. Absolutely loving the devs' work!
The "HSR is dying" thing is coming from Genshin players. HSR's income has been higher than Genshin's for a while now and their online reddit users numbers are equal at all times. It's just cope from jealous people.
OF COURSE it's a marketing ploy. How do I know? Because it worked on me. I initially refused to play HSR due to seeing similarities to Epic Seven and Genshin's gearing/artifact systems, which I utterly abhor; however, the news of Dr. Ratio got me to finally give the game a try, and now I'm quite enjoying it. Of course some of that enjoyment is probably because I have had some pretty crazy luck in my first week of playing, but regardless it proves that the marketing strategy worked. I will say that I am disappointed in a few things, such as the inability to get previous event light cones. Looking forward to what the game might hold in the future, who knows, maybe my issues with the game will get alleviated in future updates. I hope for a positive future for the game, something I've not done legitimately for a gacha game in a long time.
It's a publicity move. I play HSR but honetly is not as popular as Genshin so they need a way to attract more people, and it's a quite good move from the HSR team
i made my hsr account the MINUTE the game was playable but i havent played since then. but dr ratio may make me play again
theres a reason i dropped genshin for honkai like this game gives me what i want
For me who doesn't have many good DPS 5 star this is huge 😭 Thanks to hoyoverse this helps me alot because I only have 1 DPS 5 star
Where do these mfs come from bro 🗿 I swear these genshin Stan’s find ANYTHING to try and cope. HSR has outsold genshin in revenue every single month, aside from this last one. Genshin needed an ARCHON to overtake HSR’s FILLER patch 💀. Those who say HSR is dying, nida realize that genshin has 3x the players that HSR has. The fact that a game the quarter of ur playerbase is outdoing your game in revenue, should speak to HSR’s success. Turn based games as a whole r just more niche, so it’s only natural for there to be less players. From all the good things the game has done, there really isn’t that many people quitting HSR.
Lol the ghost event has been my favorite event the company has ever done. I loved it so much
‘wins mobile game of the year’
‘consistently among the top in revenue among gacha games’
‘Gives 5* as thanks to the community”
Some fans: IS HSR DYING?
Yeah there is a weird mental gymnastics happening here
Yeah... I have been squealing about Dr. Ratio all week now and my friend finally tried HSR. The marketing is working LOL
I am pretty sure people who claimed hsr being dying are just bored.
I feel like the VA of Dr.Ratio saw the 4 stars on the banner and wasn't impressed so he interrupted the broadcast.
I'm literally leaving Genshin for HSR! 😅
I hope you enjoy the game! You're totally welcome here.
Welcome and enjoy to play hsr🎉🎉
That's exactly what I felt. I wanted a game that I can play casually while I'm out of content for Genshin. And HSR is the cheapest version and it's really fun too.
better than genshin for sure
This game isn’t dying it’s literally game of the year for mobile
6:14 I trully believe that, I've tried multiple turn based games in the past and never liked (besides card games and pokemon). But my friend really got me into this game and its really good indeed
might not be as successful as genshin but its #2 in monthly revenue vs all other gacha titles iirc in the monthly revenue stats so its still doing good
Also with conventional memoir , new player can play the big event in the earlier version and get some jade from it , its the best game XD
People be cooping just because they don't want to accept the fact that genshin didn't get anything
the free ratio we get to try during the mission was alrd dealing 30k dmg each follow up atk for free he is pretty insane to me
I gotta say, I think Honkai Star Rail is doing everything genshin should have done in the beginning but at the same time, I don't think honkai star rail would be the same without the mistakes from early stages of genshin.
The main difference is that the Star Rail devs listen to the plea of their community, they take their plea and make the game better for the community to enjoy while in Genshin, yes sometimes the devs listen but most of the time their plea is ignored and thus a rift between it's community and the devs is being formed.
I didn't realize until recently that there were different devs for the games. I thought it was just 1 company focusing on all the games at once. I am really glad they are listening to their community. I believe that genshin is working on it though. They're adding minor changes but it shows.@@idontspeakjapanese6289
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 Hoyo listened to Genshin players complain and implemented them in Star Rail instead to attract players from Genshin . At this point HSR is benefiting from the Genshin hate from players otherwise it wouldn’t have been that popular.
Da Wei has a hardcore favouritism towards Honkai projects.
@@blaze8308 That's because they started with a Honkai game, so I can see why they have favouritism
@@idontspeakjapanese6289 That favouritism is not good for Genshin playerbase. It's kinda unfair.
I got two Bailu’s and Gepards lightcone, I’m ready for Dr. Ratio 🤗
The glazing is crazy dog
Enjoyed this perspective, think you onto something ;)
Star rail is the best game I’ve played from far
i don't think anyone's saying the game is dead because of the free ratio. just people saying that he's free because he's gonna be bad, which is also wrong. it's literally just to celebrate the award and they would be absolutely stupid if they made ruan mei the free character instead. (since she was the first character to release after VGAs)
The best thing I did was, stop playing genshin. It just became boring and the exploration for me is just saturated and exhausting. I rather play HSR, I'm really invested in the future of this game which is way more promising than genshin.
I was even going to pull for him because I like his kit. also way before the announcement, just during his introduction, everyone is already heads over heels for him in HSR groups.