IF I LOSE THIS RACE I AM SELLING MY M3 /// *BMW e36 m3 vs VW Golf KO4 1.8T*
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Can my BMW E36 M3 beat a MK4 Golf 1.8t with a Ko4 sawp?? It is finally time to race and find out!
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1.8Ts have mega tuning potential but the sound of the M3!!😍😍
i would have been very disappointed if the result was any different.
The M3 lost imho 1.8T Ko4 would always win if setup correctly but that owner did not do that at all. He should be sitting at 300hp+ to the actual wheels
So good. Nothing but love. I own the golf and I prefer the m3 in every way. Now you don’t have to sell your car. Until round 2 @treatsonthestreets 😘
Thought those 1.8t made 180 block and the older 1.8t from Audi A4 and Passat made the 150 block .
Yeah the AWP 1.8t is fittted with a K05-053 Stock making it 180hp while the K04 in general is better so he should be exceeding that 180hp. K04 tops out 400hp+ so the resualts in this video makes no sense. Dude is either running really low boost or has a bad tune or just bad supporting mods. The M3 with its 240HP should have been sent gaple bees lol
Okay kids pay attention to rule number 1 if you have a Euro FWD car. Slicks or radial drag tires are your only friend from a dig unless you like doing burnouts. Number 2, your est 310LB of TQ on a stage 2 tune is around 1400 rpm so always opt for a rolling 3rd gear run if you want to keep all things moving forward. I guarantee with proper tires and a much cooler day like c'mon 99 degrees is murder to a 1.8T, that said he easily should have smoked more than just his tires.
You could use a water sprayer on the intercooler between runs, just get one of those spray thing you use for weed killer and just use it to cool down intake air temps. It's a legit technique used in the pits of race events, for example they do it a lot on formula drift cars.
Im going to look at e36 328i manual car tomorrow. If its in good condition ill buy it while here they are expensive though :(. You gave me huge confidence in how good they are. Thank you man! Love your content.
328 isn’t quite the same. It takes some money to make stock m3 power. Cams, exhaust, manifold, tune, probably a M3 diff would help too. A 328 probably would lose to the golf. However, the 328 is still a great car. Its probably better to just turbo or supercharge the 328 m52 if you want real power. Its not easy or cheap to make NA power with the e36.
Justin Tarango my 328is with a bit of work and a tune done to it stays doors with a 95 m3. newer m3s eat me alive though. i can shave some time off with a better transmission because i can’t slam gears because i have nonexistent synchros lmao
i love the car but it’s a work in progress. i need to pretty much redo my m50 manifold swap because i’ve got vacuum leaks out the ass. i need an alignment because i just did poly everything. i also need to figure out something with my dipstick because it keeps shooting it out and making me lose oil
The K04 can make good power the Volvo guys are making 300hp and close to 350tq. Of course that's on a 2.5 5 cylinder. The biggest problem is the K04 can't operate well over 20psi because it's so small and gets too hot. All the best running Volvos with K04s are running big intercoolers
My Volvo v50 t5 is on 25psi on stock k04 and I made 375whp and it is amazing. I have a second car which is a k04 1.8t and it’s making over 260. I have no idea why this gti lost but something was wrong with it
@@Mazdaspeed_lifestyle I have a 2nd generation C70T5 with upgraded downpipe and tune. Tune is set a little over 17psi. I have stock intercooler. The thing is quick as shit the first few times you floor it after it's warmed up but once heatsoak starts it gets slower quickly. The Intercooler is important with the K04. Too big you will see pressure drop and too smart you want see heatsoak. The tall thin intercoolers work best on the Volvos in my opinion probably the same on the VWs.
@@willriley1619 I have a DO88 Intercooler on my v50 I highly recommend it, it performs amazing, and I have a cts intercooler on my mk4 gti and have had no problems with heat soak. But I definitely agree with your statement 100%
Good now you don't need to sell your 36 💯
K03/3s is good low
Down boost they run out of steam quick
K04 is better makes abit more power around 280/290 if pushed an the k04 holds boost better at the top end
Good cheap fun for stock turbos
Haha all this racing is right from my house. Good times!
Actually not bad for a mk4 with a ko4
David Paradiso it’s not even a 225 k04. This one is basically a k03s without the muffler on the compressor side.
A ko4 properly tuned would pull that m3
Those vdubs love to drop valves, my old vr6 got me good.
good ol german engineering
They are fine if they are maintained well
Ppl rant shit out of them and mod them and expect them to be fine
my boi just needs that no lift shift and it'd a lot closer.
I had it. But for some reason it wasn’t working. The heatsoak was terrible.
that bucket hat makes the video
36 always start from high rpm, witch is good, for the guy on golf, let him try from lower gear and high rpm to roll
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how mutch did i pay for the m3? Here in sweden u have to pay 30K dollars for such a m3.
1.8T #neverlose 😏
B5 a4 would have been a better race/comparison.
That guy with MK4 he don't know race....
Usless
Hahahhaah completely useless. Funny thing is my crx took the e36 to gapplebees from a dig.
6ix9ine
No way that gti lost 😂. How do you have all that and lost to 208 hp. My k04 makes 265. No excuse he lost. WILD 😂😂😂
mine makes 3 on 22lbs
It was literally 100 degrees out. Heatsoak was robbing the golf terribly. Let’s be honest though. Mk4’s aren’t fast cars.
🤣🤣🤣 "He's close"? you leave him 2-3 car lengths on 100 meters... 🤣
I mean not to shit on dude's car but that VW is a shitbox while e36 is a fkn mint US m3. First of all e36 is far superior in everything, and 2nd e36 is basically out of its league. You can't compare that to an e36. If they were on a track that VW would've blow up (again?) while e36 is meant for it lol
Fun video though! 🤣
#1. He's Still Actually driving a Converse Hi Top Sneaker. You're Shifting a bit Soon. I also have a 99 e 36 //M3 W/a Borg Warner EFR7163, Inter cooler ect, ect... Black Coupe. & I just scored an. S 54 !!! The Stock engine can Easily handle 600 hp. Reliably ! I'll Pay for boath of you to race at the "Ring" in Germany... NOT ! The E 36 REALLY SHINES In Handling !! Their are Many Owners W/ Cool sites Showing them up AGAINST NEW Porsche & other, Full on Race/ Roll bars & 0 "Interior" . Still HIGHLY Sought After in Europe ! Bro.. You gotta get past the 350hp mark.. (( Don't Mill your Head )) It will ROCK your world ! ps.. MANY. Small, Medium even Large Businesses are Closing You know... That P|☆nd€mic Thing.. & "They" plan for a "Stage 2"... Great !! Love your car & Enthusiasm !
When I mentioned ( Closing Business) There are MANY things you should get while you still can ! ( Even Household items & Consumer Electronics... Tools.. Get them while you still can !
Dude i think i had a stroke just by looking at your comment
@@yaboyis2236 Sadly... That Speaks VOLUMES about you. Let me guess.. you're 22. . Read more.
@@soundpainter2590 Haha no I'm not 22. I didn't mean to be offensive. Your way of writing is just a little confusing, like too many spaces after certain words and not using capital letters correctly. Didn't mean to offend you sorry
@@yaboyis2236 Ok, No Problem. I'm using my phone. & since my Carrier merged with T mobile & "Other" companies.. Not only did I loose ALL Apps & stored data, But basic (( Functionality is "F"ed up BEYOND Comprehention ! )) I"m Not the Only one ! & "Customer Service" is a Nightmare ! & "Dropouts for NO Reason" All the time. ! Definitely changing to Another Service provider ASAP SPRINT WAS Great, For years.
That Golf just got clapped hard
Knew the e36 would win 👍
if he added 550 cc injectors ,3 inch Maf housing from a vr6 and gotten the Eurcustom k04/Frankenturbo tune. M3 would have been going to gapplebees
Well if you're talking about spending that much money on the m3 as well you could just put a nitrous shot in it and the golf would go to gapplebees.
Boost the M3 and the Golf would be bus lengths back. Not too lention the M3 is road racing car not intended for drag racing. It just does well at both. Vw's are just German Honda's. But Honda's are actually fast when built..
No never
yeah im not sure why he lost must have something funky going on. Ive beaten an e36 m3 on a gonzo stage 2 tune w similar mods.
@@rodgazinya sounds like a golf R hurt ur feelings bud
I’m a VW 1.8t owner and fan
...but that BM tho 😍
Wouldn’t mind some advice for my 1.8t when boosting
Starts playing up
My 1.8t dropped an exhaust valve as well, same cylinder as him too. Happened at 180,000 miles after 10 years of daily abuse and 55,000 of that was on a frankenturbo K04 kit, so it held up pretty well in my opinion.
E36 has a 3.13:1 differential, versus 3.68:1 for Golf. In the simplest terms: the BMW has more engine RPM, and the wheels spin faster than the Golf at a given engine speed. I've had some Tuned AF Subie's and VW's that could catch up while pushing hardcore boost, and semi-dangerous Revs.... But they were always random jealous dudes, pushing their shitbox too hard, and basically "racing" me when I was just driving my commute. 🤣
Thanks for sharing this content, almost 2 years ago i was thinking about buying an e36 and found your channel. Now i´ve had my bmw e36 328i for a year and a half and i cant be more happy! Definetly you helped me decide and for everyone out there thinking about one of these cars definetly go for it! Cheers from Argentina and keep it up!
Have you had any problems so far that a potential buyer like me should know?
@@hugo4587 not really because thankfully i found one that is in really good shape. Although you should check the coolant sistem that is common to fail, also make shure if it´s a nikasil engine or not, check the second gear that usually is the first one to blow out. Besides that is a rock solid car just take care of them and do the proper manteinance.
And incredibly fun to drive!
@@Franco_Rothar thx for the tips man, rlly appreciate it. ps: have you not had any problems with power steering or vanos? as i see that a lot on the bmw forums.
@@hugo4587 the only issue that i had was a leaking power steering hose from the reservoir. i replaced the hoses and problem solved. Vanos for now is working perfect.
PLEAAASE ! go to the canyons and do some tracking with the MK4!! I would really love to see it compare to the M3 & see how those coilovers do! @Streets
I sold the mk4. Now I’ll start building my Rx7. It may turn up in one of these videos too 🤷🏻
@@r1l3y91ef 🥲🥲🥲 just bought a awp for my 2.slow
Great work, nice video!!.
I Recently bought an E36 m3 and the grills are in rough shape, what grills you have on yours I really like them?!
Thanks
Nice! Check the link to my website in the description. You'll find the grilles there 👍
Treats On The Streets you’re awesome!! Thanks!!!
not a 'real' K04, tell the bmw to come back when you've got a k04-02X, you'd walk him haha
How’s the k04 holding up?
Still alive haha
What time is this like stage 2 stage 3? Injectors? Or no for ko4
ILL BUY IT
I’ll sell it haha. I need to get it gone so I can start building my Rx7!
Hi all n hope you are having a good day. Just got my e36. But engine is shacking a bit. Guy said it might be because of the cheap plugs so the fuel doesnt burn properly. N 1 more con is that bearing at the left rear wheel is making noise . As far as that i didnt find any issues but i will replace whole cooling system anyway. Thank you all mostly @treats on the street
@treatsonthestreets. I recently bought a 99 e36 M3 convertible with 150k miles, in pretty nice condition. Looking to build it to last and for some fun. Thank you so much for all of your videos. It’s helped me source parts on ECS tuning and can’t wait to start this e36 journey! Would love to discuss specifics around what you do for routine maintenance/monthly/quarterly/annually. 👍🏽 keep up the great work on this Chanel.
Is that a K04-001 or 022?
K04-001. Basically a k03s without the muffler on compressor side.
how much boost is he runnin? @gti
24psi spike 21psi hold
This is the best looking E36 on the planet! Sounds monstrous!
Literally made me go looking for one to buy
2 door golf with same ko4 and tune without the back seats and spare tire and some better tread on the front would get that bmw.
"dang that was close" while an entire car lengths behind entire time lol
Came here for the GTI and fell in love with the E36 M3
KO4 Turbo is disappointing, wanted to make an upgrade with it
this is the shitty k04-001, which is basically a k03s. k03s turbo will safely do 230hp, this k04-001 will do about 245hp, while a real k04 (k04-022 or k04-23) will make 300+ hp.
With the real k04 setup and a good tune, a GTI will leave a lightly modded m3 for dead. It will never win off the line tho, even 3rd gear will spin pretty bad.
This is not an m3 !!!
granny shifting not double clutching like you should, you're lucky that 100 shot of NOS didn't blow the welds on the intake.
Can we get a full mod list of the gti
Intake, catless dp, fmic, eurojet turbo inlet, rkx diverter, full 3inch turbo back exhaust, full egr/sai delete, k04-001 turbo, 06atechnik stage 2 tune.
That golf is basically an S3 with a tune at this point :D No wonder it was that close. 20 psi is a good amount of boost. But I like it how they hold it close to stock for both cars, those engines can both hold around 1000hp easily on a built bottom end. But you don't need ridiculous power to have fun.
I daily a b5.5 passat 1.8t with 18 psi and 240000 on her I'm meticulous about my maintenance tho she gets beat daily tho
Nice edit @ 10:05
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AGHHH now i’m back in college hearing your car makes me miss mine so much now:(((
didn’t even make it to the end of the video to see if your one I’m still in the ads idc I’ll buy it😂
Shit didn’t even make it to the start of the video still I’ll buy it😂
Golf gli? Huh 😅
"golf GLI" lol
"Oh it's close!"
Pulls away immediately 😂
Lol. I let off.
AIR BAG WARNING
flip visor over
Did you redline the?
IS this car tuned?
U going to lose tho
golf gli? no such thing. golf gls it prob is if not a gti. :)
its a gls