Enough is Enough! The Line Has Been Crossed!

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  • Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
  • In today's furious rant, I share my frustrations with the Milwaukee Fuel M18 framing saw. In my experience, when set to its maximum depth, it doesn't clear a speed square, which is a crucial tool for making precise cuts. Compared to the West Coast-style saws like the Skil Mag 77 or my DeWalt Flexvolt, which easily clear a speed square and have the blade on the left for better visibility, this is quite disappointing.
    I'll also address some of the feedback I've received, suggesting I use my other hand (even though I'm right-handed) or avoid setting the saw so deep. These suggestions, in my opinion, miss the practical reality of needing to use a speed square for deep cuts. Join me as I share my thoughts and frustrations. Let's discuss! Many of our videos are comedic & satirical & not intended to cultivate antisocial or unlawful behavior.
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  • @Ravespillo
    @Ravespillo 21 день тому +776

    This is how the U.S. Forest Service fights the whole internet.

    • @wranglerstar
      @wranglerstar  21 день тому +155

      his made my chuckle, thank you , beloved,

    • @Ravespillo
      @Ravespillo 21 день тому +37

      @@wranglerstar Furious Rants give me great joy, so I'm glad you got something good back!

    • @chuckray8389
      @chuckray8389 21 день тому +2

      Problem with people is they are too much peoplie,😂 stop being people and just be smart!

    • @alexanderwhite298
      @alexanderwhite298 21 день тому +17

      ​@@wranglerstar I did a quick search online and I think you have a left-handed saw there instead of right handed one. I typed in Milwaukee left handed circular saw and got pictures of both left facing saw blades and right facing saw blades. I did the same with right handed circular saws and got similar results.
      I think you're just tired and hungry and thirsty so just go on the porch with a cold glass of hard ice tea and rock your worries away in a rocking chair.

    • @lonnielacaillade2019
      @lonnielacaillade2019 21 день тому +13

      East coast guy here that marks the length with a pencil puts a square line on the mark and cuts the lumber. Yes without using the square as a guide.

  • @mattfinn27
    @mattfinn27 21 день тому +260

    I've experienced this flaw on other brand cordless and corded saws before. I believe this is a problem with Engineers who've never actually used a saw in a production environment while trying to make tools more "streamline" and compact.

    • @ashburncitystandup9707
      @ashburncitystandup9707 21 день тому +17

      100% agreed. Problem with common sense these days. It just ain't that common.

    • @voidFutureVector
      @voidFutureVector 21 день тому +18

      bingo, engineers that never use the product

    • @Stonepotwaffles
      @Stonepotwaffles 21 день тому

      Maybe the right guard is patented

    • @mattfinn27
      @mattfinn27 21 день тому +8

      @Stonepotwaffles Perhaps, but the problem is the motor housing extends past the shoe the saw rides on. If the engineers extended the shoe past the housing or shortened the housing itself, that would allow you to use a speed square with the saw set at full depth.

    • @Scrivscribe
      @Scrivscribe 21 день тому +6

      Or maybe the marketing team promised a certain cut depth and the engineers were backed into a corner?

  • @MNW777-k4c
    @MNW777-k4c 21 день тому +322

    Fedex guy now films houses for the government

    • @brandonburdette7895
      @brandonburdette7895 21 день тому +15

      I use to let them bring packages to my house but now they aren't allowed any more with all the cameras

    • @SterlingWheel
      @SterlingWheel 21 день тому +16

      Amazon guy has been doing it for years...

    • @3Runner95
      @3Runner95 21 день тому

      milkman used to spy and write notes

    • @humanthingtodo7891
      @humanthingtodo7891 21 день тому

      😂😂

    • @jonathanbellows113
      @jonathanbellows113 21 день тому +4

      IT company the flock

  • @mr.clancy1598
    @mr.clancy1598 19 днів тому +32

    Flip the speed square 180, the saw blade will clear the material before hitting the lip of the square - I am an east coast man. Continuing to solve west coast problems

  • @lidlett9883
    @lidlett9883 21 день тому +63

    You're not wrong.
    It does have a major flaw. It's not a wormdrive
    Wormdrives were first known as a 77 skill saw. That red thing is a circular saw. Circular saws are for hobbyists. Skillsaws are for men with calloused hands

    • @LordVader407
      @LordVader407 19 днів тому +13

      Every saw with a round blade is a circular saw. The type of circular saw is what changes the name. Miter saw, chop saw, brewco, wormdrive, Cut off, are all types of circular saws. Skill is a company that makes saws.

    • @bk7278
      @bk7278 19 днів тому +2

      Worm drives suck

    • @jasonperkins1654
      @jasonperkins1654 19 днів тому +10

      Skill saw is a brand . Not a mechanical name for a saw. Real men know the difference

    • @daviddoesit2341
      @daviddoesit2341 18 днів тому

      Aye they cooking u 👆🏾👀😳

    • @lidlett9883
      @lidlett9883 17 днів тому +1

      @@LordVader407 in a word NO!
      Just because they have blade the spins in a circular motion does not make them a circular saw.
      When you go to a tool store and ask to see a miter saw they do not show you a circular saw.
      They will show you a small 6¼ circular saw that is not a worm drive. At the age of 16th my father gave me a all metal body 77 Skillsaw. In 1979, I said to him but dad I was hoping for a car. He looked me smiled and said"Son that saw will buy you many cars" and it did.

  • @earthboy9622
    @earthboy9622 21 день тому +217

    I'm lefthanded - Finally an advantage! Now on to scissors.

    • @escapetherace1943
      @escapetherace1943 21 день тому +4

      WISS makes some good left handed scissors. We're winning, pal!

    • @Prepare2Prosper
      @Prepare2Prosper 21 день тому +12

      We need to form a special interest group and lobby congress.
      We are clearly an oppressed minority

    • @robb8331
      @robb8331 21 день тому

      there are left handed notch trowels

    • @josh857
      @josh857 21 день тому +3

      Sinistrophobia is real 😢

    • @christopherd5941
      @christopherd5941 21 день тому +5

      Where’s my left handed hammer, damnit!?

  • @motorrad2
    @motorrad2 18 днів тому +7

    jesus christ, I framed for years and never used a flippin' square as a guide when cutting beams

  • @greatamculture
    @greatamculture 20 днів тому +10

    Suggestion…flip the speed square so that it s pointing toward you on the other side of your work. By the time the body of the saw reaches the stop on the speed square you should have a full cut or at least nearly a full cut. Follow through on each side to complete. Give it a try and let me know what you think.

  • @zeroskill.
    @zeroskill. 21 день тому +226

    i came expecting the manifesto, severely disappointed

    • @LKS-1976
      @LKS-1976 21 день тому +7

      Ditto

    • @SeanMurphy00
      @SeanMurphy00 21 день тому +5

      Haha same here… speaking of manifestos, I highly recommend Ted Kazinsky’s Manifesto if you haven’t already listened to it.

    • @LKS-1976
      @LKS-1976 21 день тому +1

      @@SeanMurphy00 great read. Good ole Uncle Ted

    • @rammbostein
      @rammbostein 20 днів тому +5

      I thought he would show us a partially armored Komatsu D335A with the rest of sheet metal waiting to be welded on

    • @ryankc3631
      @ryankc3631 20 днів тому +4

      Yeah, thought he was calling up the Minute Men.

  • @narutobroken
    @narutobroken 21 день тому +58

    Milwaukee makes another model with the blade on the other side

    • @scottverge938
      @scottverge938 20 днів тому +1

      Yep, but it's not as common.

    • @RedundantBuoyancy
      @RedundantBuoyancy 19 днів тому +1

      ​@scottverge938 yea people don't know the difference

    • @scottverge938
      @scottverge938 19 днів тому +1

      @@RedundantBuoyancy so it seems.

    • @KansanWolf
      @KansanWolf 18 днів тому

      What is the model?

    • @scottverge938
      @scottverge938 17 днів тому

      @@KansanWolf you'd have to look it up on their website but I'm almost certain it exists, if not you could buy their worm drive saw like the dewalt he's using in the video.

  • @edzachary8657
    @edzachary8657 21 день тому +30

    Framing crews don't use their speed square as a guide, we don't need it

    • @quickchicken506
      @quickchicken506 20 днів тому +4

      You lie much?

    • @waynewebb7377
      @waynewebb7377 20 днів тому +8

      so that is why there are no square corners or ceilings in most houses...

    • @winnebagochaingang7172
      @winnebagochaingang7172 20 днів тому +3

      Square a pencil mark on whatever you wish to cut…genius!

    • @edzachary8657
      @edzachary8657 20 днів тому +3

      @@quickchicken506 I have never seen one framer on any job I've been on put down their speed square as a guide to cut on a line

    • @edzachary8657
      @edzachary8657 20 днів тому

      @@winnebagochaingang7172 he was using it as a guide to cut on that pencil mark, genius

  • @JamesKonzek-xr5zy
    @JamesKonzek-xr5zy 21 день тому +10

    A little flavored lip balm & Mr Wranglstar here will be dolled up lookin' like George Michael.

  • @r.rodriguez4991
    @r.rodriguez4991 21 день тому +79

    Looking online it looks like there are left and right handed versions of the saw.

    • @narutobroken
      @narutobroken 21 день тому +22

      Yeah I don’t understand the outrage, he bought the wrong tool

    • @johngreydanus2033
      @johngreydanus2033 21 день тому +4

      Is that "right"? Pun intended. That would be so awesome, he will have to rant at himself now.

    • @michaelhislop4840
      @michaelhislop4840 21 день тому +2

      Yeah they do

    • @tommychong1173
      @tommychong1173 21 день тому +2

      Yup they certainly do. Or any 6 1/2 inch saw also left hand sighted

    • @kaptainkrunch6179
      @kaptainkrunch6179 21 день тому +3

      Maybe we'll hear about the left handed scissors he bought next.

  • @Hisdudeness799
    @Hisdudeness799 21 день тому +68

    When you’re right you’re right.

    • @dinneryeti
      @dinneryeti 20 днів тому +1

      No, it goes on the left!

  • @logicVSpassion
    @logicVSpassion 21 день тому +5

    As a pro framer... The better saw depends on the application. For rough framing, a wormdrive is superior. For trim and bevel cuts, a circular saw (the Milwaukee) can be a better option because this style of saw has better precision and stability than a wormdrive. In practice, this saw is usually used with the wide side of the table toward the workpiece. The best framers I know use both, even just for cutting fascia and decking.

  • @capg5806
    @capg5806 17 днів тому +2

    I am a right handed carpenter, and I own a “left-handed” porter cable, circular saw that I’ve had for almost 18 years. It’s the best circular saw ever because I can actually see the blade and see my cut.

  • @chuckmiller5763
    @chuckmiller5763 21 день тому +59

    And Milwaukee makes a rear handle saw, just like the Dewalt rear handle, just like Dewalt makes a battery sidewinder like that Milwaukee sidewinder that will not clear the square at full depth either.

    • @narutobroken
      @narutobroken 21 день тому +9

      Yeah I don’t understand, Milwaukee makes probably six different versions of those saws, with blades on either side and with the worm drive handle in the back

    • @geoffkeller5337
      @geoffkeller5337 21 день тому +16

      ​@@narutobrokenHe's doing it for views

    • @matthellcat2494
      @matthellcat2494 21 день тому +2

      Agreed

    • @illiniwood
      @illiniwood 21 день тому +2

      @@geoffkeller5337 No, I read the comments on the video he's talking about. They're pretty bad. There are truly a lot of dolts in this world. I've worked with a few myself. To be fair, for some, I've too have been the dolt at times.

    • @genewitch
      @genewitch 21 день тому +1

      ​@@geoffkeller5337wtf else would you film a video in 4k and edit it and upload it.
      You're a genius, bro

  • @jfarmer1672
    @jfarmer1672 21 день тому +251

    You clearly need to grind the lip of the speed square down with the bench grinder…. Just like Midwest man.

    • @johngreydanus2033
      @johngreydanus2033 21 день тому +17

      But then you need 2 of them, one for left and one for right.

    • @dustonstine7549
      @dustonstine7549 21 день тому +14

      Why would you compromise a tool whenever the engineers should actually be doing their job properly and listening to customer and contractor feedback?

    • @donaldmatthies6026
      @donaldmatthies6026 21 день тому +5

      @jfarmer1672,
      I live in the Midwest and hell no! Why wreck a tool like a speed square to accommodate inferior junk, you are wrong on this one!

    • @jfarmer1672
      @jfarmer1672 21 день тому +17

      @@dustonstine7549 I think you should look above your head…. You might see the joke…..

    • @johngreydanus2033
      @johngreydanus2033 21 день тому +3

      @@jfarmer1672 I got it HA HA HA, I've had a search and apparently saws are classified as left or right BLADE.

  • @dennisminnick6677
    @dennisminnick6677 18 днів тому +2

    I’m a left handed west coast guy. Worm drive saws used with my left hand my entire career. I just got used to it.Semi retired now at 76. Also I miss work. Blessings.

  • @JesusCristo-pp5xf
    @JesusCristo-pp5xf 20 днів тому +11

    Pro carpenter tip. The front table of your saw is a square. Line it up with your lumber and plunge cut. No square needed. Very fast, especially with the guard pinned back, but only for pros. Seriously.
    Also one side of your table is 1 1/2” the other side is 3 1/2” so you can rip lumber without snapping.

  • @fulltism
    @fulltism 21 день тому +178

    I love that the east coast man accent is a stereotypical west coast man accent 😅

    • @wranglerstar
      @wranglerstar  21 день тому +70

      It's called inversion, it's I trick I learned from the adversary,

    • @backfromthedead553
      @backfromthedead553 21 день тому

      For the "up coming struggle"?​@@wranglerstar

    • @elihutson4553
      @elihutson4553 21 день тому

      @@wranglerstar please look on their website the have a right handed model

    • @garrettmandujano2996
      @garrettmandujano2996 21 день тому +3

      @@wranglerstarclassic

    • @rarobertsun1770
      @rarobertsun1770 21 день тому +3

      I feel like a whining new jersey accent would have been fitting

  • @mw6886
    @mw6886 21 день тому +79

    When I first got my Milwaukee, I was so confused. Still hate it to this day.

    • @D2O2
      @D2O2 21 день тому +2

      Makita sidewinder has the blade on the correct side.

    • @365JohnDoe
      @365JohnDoe 21 день тому

      Same haha! now I need to sell and get their right hand saw

  • @jimmyhoffa70
    @jimmyhoffa70 18 днів тому +1

    I'm a 57 year old East Coast carpenter. I can't believe the point hasn't been made about bevel cutting. Most people prefer a right bevel saw for long point measurements.
    There's got to be a reason why most saws on the market are right bevel and why they changed from the original old SKIL design, right ? ( even SKIL makes them )
    My only irk with them is, being right handed, the narrow part of the table is on the material when trimming doors and counter tops.

  • @prideland1210
    @prideland1210 20 днів тому +2

    You just got the wrong one. Should have got the left-blade version.

  • @zekefrye706
    @zekefrye706 21 день тому +54

    Third generation carpenter here. I put the fence of the square on the opposite side of the board than you. The cut will be well established and nearly finished before the motor hits. I just raise the rear of the saw slightly to finish the cut. It also gives more of a reference edge to guide the saw starting the cut in narrower boards with the tip of the square hanging off towards you. It’s just habit and second nature now. However I rarely use that method. It’s faster for me to strike a line and cut straight than to line up a square. It’s especially easier if the wood has tension and you need to back up multiple times to relieve the cut. Fooling with a square while cutting isn’t effective or efficient enough to be my go to method. Enjoy your channel from time to time btw.

    • @BizzaroInc
      @BizzaroInc 20 днів тому +1

      this is answer for why the motor is on that side

    • @user-iu9uj1yz2f
      @user-iu9uj1yz2f 19 днів тому +3

      Bro, I'm not a professional carpenter, and even I can tell what you're saying about adjusting during a cut sounds stupid. You, sir, are hilarious. The indian dude at the beginning of the comments got it right. That saw by milwaukee is for the hobbiest.

    • @An_Attempt
      @An_Attempt 19 днів тому +2

      @@user-iu9uj1yz2f The thing is professionals tend to get odd habits in their trades, and carpentry can be an interesting blend of science and art. No two seem to do things quite the same.

    • @zekefrye706
      @zekefrye706 18 днів тому +1

      I don’t comment on videos much. I was just trying to help. It’s not an uncommon technique that I mentioned. Maybe I wasn’t clear. I don’t stop during the cut to adjust the sole. I don’t let off the trigger. I don’t slow down. With the motor running, I keep the front, bottom of the sole referenced on wood and the left side of the sole referenced on the square. I simply lift the rear of the saw while finishing the cut. I’ve built somewhere in the ballpark of 20 million dollars worth of multi million dollar luxury lake homes and countless smaller projects. The motor on the left or right (I own both) matters more to me when cutting certain bevels. I hope that’s less stupid and hilarious. Sorry if you didn’t or don’t gather what I’m trying to say. I was only trying to help.

    • @zekefrye706
      @zekefrye706 18 днів тому

      I don’t comment on videos much. I was just trying to help. It’s not an uncommon technique that I mentioned. Maybe I wasn’t clear. I don’t stop during the cut to adjust the sole. I don’t let off the trigger. I don’t slow down. With the motor running, I keep the front, bottom of the sole referenced on wood and the left side of the sole referenced on the square. I simply lift the rear of the saw while finishing the cut. I’ve built somewhere in the ballpark of 20 million dollars worth of multi million dollar luxury lake homes and countless smaller projects. The motor on the left or right (I own both) matters more to me when cutting certain bevels. I hope that’s less stupid and hilarious. Sorry if you didn’t or don’t gather what I’m trying to say. I was only trying to help.

  • @benjamintodd3323
    @benjamintodd3323 21 день тому +29

    The next complaint is about a left-handed whistle. it blows lol.

  • @D2O2
    @D2O2 21 день тому +2

    As a lefty myself, I learned to use dads worm drive skil saw right handed. I started framing houses when I was 14 and the first crew I worked on the owner supplied side winders and I hated them for the fact you can't easily see the blade when using your right hand. Bought my own worm drive skill after the first week. Now when it comes to speed squares, I only used them to make the line, then I put it away and cut the line. Takes too much time to line up the square and the saw blah blah blah. Make a line and learn to cut it. We don't use squares to cut plywood. It is rough framing, not finish carpentry. After a while, you don't need a line drawn square, just a mark and you can cut a 2x4 very square by eye. Production is about efficiency, extra motions and tools is not efficient. Study Larry Haun.....

  • @jakerobichaux939
    @jakerobichaux939 20 днів тому

    As a carpenter, I had no idea wormdrive vs sidewinder was east coast vs west coast lol

  • @zactillett9820
    @zactillett9820 21 день тому +30

    I miss the furious rants. Please bring them back full time.

    • @steveb9525
      @steveb9525 6 днів тому +1

      I used to work at The Gaylord hotel and convention center. My coworker said “I wish this place would burn to the ground.” Lol

  • @EthanYork82
    @EthanYork82 21 день тому +30

    Hey Cody I am not telling you not what to do but I am left handed and I use a right handed saw I just flip the speed square to the other side and can cut it all the way through. Just a thought

    • @neighborhoodprepped7862
      @neighborhoodprepped7862 21 день тому

      I was thinking same thing? But not sure that will work either? But was my 1st thought

    • @johnmiller6817
      @johnmiller6817 21 день тому

      That's how I do it. Plus if your speed square is large enough it gives the shoe more of a fence to make a straight cut.

    • @iron3624
      @iron3624 21 день тому +2

      @@neighborhoodprepped7862 it does work lol by the time the blade makes it to but to the speed square the piece is generally cut

  • @strongjambbyprospeed9499
    @strongjambbyprospeed9499 20 днів тому +1

    Most of the pros used worm drive saws with the blade on the left. But they are no longer worm drive saws, it's just a configuration to mimic those saws. But I also have to say that the pro framers who have been around for awhile don't rely on speed squares to get a straight cut. They either follow a pencil line or just judge it with their pool eye after they've been framing for awhile. So just take it down a notch and go with whatever works for you. Anyway, all the home owners and weekend warriors are cool with those saws!

  • @nicholasgrammatico403
    @nicholasgrammatico403 20 днів тому +1

    When corded saws were still common I used left handed saw in right hand to have blade on inside where I didn’t have to look over saw to see cut

  • @StrungOutOutdoors
    @StrungOutOutdoors 21 день тому +67

    East coast men cut straight without a square😉

    • @RealLifeProduct
      @RealLifeProduct 21 день тому +4

      Exactly. When I was a framer we just free hand it. Sometimes use finger as guide for long, short width rip cuts.

    • @paladin252
      @paladin252 21 день тому +10

      Because us east coasters ARE straight!

    • @LordHumungus-eg2dw
      @LordHumungus-eg2dw 20 днів тому +4

      Been a carpenter all my life and I get a laugh every time I see someone use a square like that. If you can’t follow a line maybe try harder

  • @mikewilcox8866
    @mikewilcox8866 21 день тому +13

    I don't use cordless saws and probably never will. And i don't use a square to make cuts. Draw the line,use your eyes, make the cut. Has been working fine here in South Carolina for all of my working life. Just saying.

    • @scottverge938
      @scottverge938 20 днів тому +2

      Dude you really should try a cordless saw, they're fantastic.

    • @user-iu9uj1yz2f
      @user-iu9uj1yz2f 19 днів тому +2

      Fantastic is a little much. Their more convenient at the cost of power usually.

    • @mobius972
      @mobius972 19 днів тому +1

      Too complex for a west coast man

    • @scottverge938
      @scottverge938 17 днів тому

      @@user-iu9uj1yz2f I can't say I've ever needed more power. Does it slow down a bit in some difficult cuts sometimes. Sure but it's more than worth the trade off for not dragging that awful cord around anymore. I don't even own a corded circular saw anymore.

  • @michaelakers7257
    @michaelakers7257 20 днів тому +1

    Being 15 year experienced residential carpenter now a pencil pusher / keyboard warrior sitting in a office from the east coast LOL. I rarely used a speed square to maintain square cuts but relied on the putting my eyes on the saw blade itself as it is cutting either by looking over the top of the saw or through the narrow opening most brands have on the motor side of the saw. A speed square dose serve as a great straight edge if needed. Both standard skill saw and the worm drive saw have their pro's and cons pending the application, operator is left or right handed, or most importantly, personal preference.

  • @MikeG.666
    @MikeG.666 17 днів тому

    The first time i ever saw a non-worm drive saw, i said "What the F is this, a left handed saw? Why cant i see what im cutting?"

  • @leviguimond
    @leviguimond 21 день тому +10

    Cody, I use a speed square with an "east coast" saw. I put the square against the top edge of the board and the saw makes the cut before the motor hits it. I pull on the square and push on the saw. It works great. At this point I'd rather cut with my makita circular saw and a speed square than a chop saw. Especially cutting framing lumber and 1x boards.

    • @gearheadted5110
      @gearheadted5110 21 день тому

      Nice technique. I have a couple of Makita saws, both are right-handed and silky smooth.

  • @thomasgarrison3949
    @thomasgarrison3949 21 день тому +7

    From a USMC & US Army Veteran 1974-88, Disabled American Veteran in 1988.
    I'm legally blind in my right eye, but I still use the right handed circular saws, If Milwaukee had had made the saw to go over a Speed Square, I might be interested.

  • @FA-tq9ip
    @FA-tq9ip 2 дні тому

    The benefit from having the blade on the right side is that the bottom plate has more material to rest on when cutting (rather than hanging off the edge like with your DeWalt)

  • @IdahoEagle77
    @IdahoEagle77 20 днів тому +1

    100% right. That saw motor is a horrible design. It’s not just the motor… having to bend so far over to see the saw blade on the other side is ridiculous.

  • @disco4535
    @disco4535 21 день тому +33

    "Just have to cut with your left hand!"
    The cope is incredible

    • @johngreydanus2033
      @johngreydanus2033 21 день тому +3

      So funny if it is actually a left-hand saw!

    • @johndoe-so2ef
      @johndoe-so2ef 21 день тому +2

      Fanboys are going to be fanboys.

    • @Arlatube
      @Arlatube 21 день тому +1

      So all corded circular saws aka sidewinders(non worm drive)were always for left handed people?...wow. That is really what you believe?

  • @markofexcellence5209
    @markofexcellence5209 21 день тому +22

    Makes sense to me. Amazing problems to have though, we live in the best time in human history

    • @Jarmann369
      @Jarmann369 21 день тому +2

      Okay…

    • @ds29912
      @ds29912 21 день тому +1

      We really do.

    • @Owen2108
      @Owen2108 21 день тому +2

      True, running from a cougar, lions or wolves are all probably much worse than the clearance on a circular saw. I of course, still agree with Wrangerstar that the 'pro' line shouldnt have such glaring deficiencies.

    • @austrianpainterhidingfromt5920
      @austrianpainterhidingfromt5920 21 день тому +3

      I don't know, they're trying to cut your son's PeePee off... not great times.

    • @byronn.2885
      @byronn.2885 21 день тому +1

      Also the most expensive time ever…

  • @GreatNorthWeb
    @GreatNorthWeb 21 день тому +1

    HFS!!! That explains why my m18 saw was not cutting my landscape timbers squarely. I literally thought my speed square was effed. Now I feel like a hard R.

  • @Markus314159
    @Markus314159 20 днів тому

    When i was a Kid working for my uncle he said that the right side saws were for doing plywood work, so that you didn't get 8 feet of sawdust blown toward yourself. And that the left side saws were for cutting lumber with speed squares.

  • @s1urry381
    @s1urry381 21 день тому +12

    So it's a left-hand saw. Cool, I'm a lefty.

  • @Lazy-kv4kb
    @Lazy-kv4kb 21 день тому +11

    This choad doesn't know his way around a saw ya herd

    • @wranglerstar
      @wranglerstar  21 день тому +7

      Choad, such a funny word,

    • @noway-sk3yr
      @noway-sk3yr 21 день тому +4

      Rymes with toad, which is what you are, Lazy.

    • @CertifiedSunset
      @CertifiedSunset 20 днів тому

      If you're going to insult someone you could at least rub your two braincells together and try to spell it right.

    • @thelasttaarakian
      @thelasttaarakian 20 днів тому

      @@CertifiedSunset choad and chode are both acceptable ways of spelling.

  • @ericarachel55
    @ericarachel55 18 днів тому +1

    Porter Cable used to make a smaller saw called the "saw boss" it has a left side blade configuration, it is my favorite saw, all saws should be made like this, and I used a speed square often for cuts, you are 100% correct

  • @MrAlexH1991
    @MrAlexH1991 5 днів тому

    Being a guy who’s right-handed, I also NEVER understood how engineers thought it was a good idea to put the blade on the backhand side of the motor… how the hell am I supposed to see what I’m doing like that?

  • @kyleallen6653
    @kyleallen6653 21 день тому +62

    "I'm a competent carpenter" - I only had lay the same tongue and groove flooring 3 times!

    • @Marcel41021
      @Marcel41021 21 день тому +16

      He overestimates his ability.

    • @needaman66
      @needaman66 21 день тому +3

      😂😂😅

    • @outfitr9703
      @outfitr9703 21 день тому +12

      He can do some stuff but he's not a carpenter!

    • @larrymashburn7789
      @larrymashburn7789 21 день тому +4

      I have never seen a competent carpenter use a speed square to make cuts. Most use Larry Hauns method and just square the front to the board.

    • @fsmoura
      @fsmoura 21 день тому +1

      Ohhh, buuuuurn! Mr W will have to go without the toupee for a week to repair the singe! ( oДo)🔥

  • @BillyMcCord
    @BillyMcCord 21 день тому +5

    There are a bunch of saws with this issue they drive me nuts !

  • @bkblazer76
    @bkblazer76 20 днів тому

    East coast guy here says I use the Porter Cable "left handed" circular saw with my right hand so I can see the blade and clear a speed square because it butts up against the guard that isn't under the motor.

  • @endlesstreamofconsciousness
    @endlesstreamofconsciousness 19 днів тому

    You're not wrong, here's how I cut posts with that saw. Make sure your blade is dead nuts square, and mark one side of the post (with your square) at your measurement. Make the cut by looking at the blade (wear friggin safety glasses). Rotate the post 90°, and use the end of your first cut to guide your next cut. As long as your line, blade, and first cut are all square, the rest of your cuts will start off in the exact place and direction you need. With a little practice, it's much faster than lining up your speed square for every cut. Hope this helps, I love that saw, they also have a worm drive style saw if you prefer those.

  • @Veritas84Aequitas
    @Veritas84Aequitas 21 день тому +19

    Northeast Canadian here... You're right, but also sounds like you could use a coconut soy latte from Starbucks to keep that toupee in optimal positioning fella 👌

  • @watchchannel8201
    @watchchannel8201 21 день тому +7

    I LOVE the east coast impression!!!!! You are rare! Keep the rants coming brother! You sounded like my dad arguing his point to a younger me.

  • @uncledaddy4447
    @uncledaddy4447 19 днів тому +1

    It’s a Left Hand Saw. The worm Drive saw you have is a Right Hand Saw. It’s that simple. As far as the speed square not clearing, well that is an issue for the Milwaukee.

  • @ThePattersonify
    @ThePattersonify 21 день тому +1

    As a left hander I salute the Milwaukee design.
    Also I love a good rant from a man of conviction.
    For me this video is a win win.

  • @WalnutAlley
    @WalnutAlley 21 день тому +9

    I’m pretty sure Milwaukee makes a rear handle left cut saw. You bought the wrong one.

  • @aaronmilburn4962
    @aaronmilburn4962 21 день тому +4

    Milwaukee makes a correct version now with the blade on the left it’s a fuel version and it works great! Thanks for the videos.

  • @1docg
    @1docg 18 днів тому +1

    Today's tech makes it very easy to make a "right handed AND a left handed" saw. Given a choice almost everyone will pick a saw where they can see the blade while cutting. The speed square issue is also a silly design flaw.

  • @inspired4more
    @inspired4more 17 днів тому

    This is pretty common with circular saws. Not just a Milwaukee thing. That there is a "left handed" saw. Worm drives are typically designed with the motor on the right, which with circular saws is usually called a "left handed saw." Worm drive saws are designed that way because for a reason, and that's part of the main reason they are so common in construction; it's easier to see the blade and material without the drive in the way. This isn't west-coast/east-coast silliness. It's just the way saws are designed, and I agree that it makes little sense. I've always used "left hand" circular saws for this reason, because the motor is on the right side where I can actually view the saw blade and material I'm cutting. Milwaukee makes both. You would need a "blade left" version of the saw, and that will match what you are used to with the worm drive. But worm drive saws are better, in my opinion, so I'd stick with that one.
    One other pro-ho tip: When using a saw like that, turn the square around so the lip is at the top, not the bottom. You'll be through the piece before it touches the lip. No need to change the depth.

  • @bigjaz8768
    @bigjaz8768 21 день тому +7

    Youre on a rampage today dude😂😂😂

  • @thormidthagahast8914
    @thormidthagahast8914 21 день тому +10

    Its for guys who have already chopped of their right hand. They can run the the speed square on the end of their stump. A prosthetic speed square attachment.

  • @robertthomas5906
    @robertthomas5906 21 день тому

    It's what you're used to. I never had a speed square until recently. I'd simply mark the 4x4 with the square and pencil. Then cut. Flip it over and mark it, cut. Two cuts. Cut a few dozen and you're good at it. As long as the saw blade is sharp.

  • @mrsullivan1709
    @mrsullivan1709 19 днів тому

    East coast carpenter here. I will never use a conventional saw again. All I use is a Skilsaw worm drive. A man’s saw. I never use a square as a guide. I simply scribe my lines and cut.

  • @pyroassassin7795
    @pyroassassin7795 21 день тому +5

    Love the honesty its relly refreshing to see someone really say whats on there mind

  • @carlzirk
    @carlzirk 21 день тому +10

    That motor sitting low has messed up my straight cut. Not ok - and dangerous trying to push through. East coast man only cuts 1 x material, so they weren't aware of the problem.

  • @JordanMilligan-sl7qq
    @JordanMilligan-sl7qq 10 днів тому

    24 year old framer from Texas here. Been framing since I was 18. I use a worm drive style battery saw for this exact reason.

  • @longbeardmcstruttin5876
    @longbeardmcstruttin5876 18 днів тому +1

    It’s a metal cutting saw,it’s designed for keeping the hot shavings off operator

  • @777tjohn
    @777tjohn 21 день тому +8

    You bought a left handed saw for leftys, should have bought a right handed saw if you cut with your right hand. The square wouldnt have a problem if it was on the side of the blade.

  • @DavidHain-TX
    @DavidHain-TX 21 день тому +2

    You are correct. This saw is designed for light home use.

  • @kylegaidos7688
    @kylegaidos7688 18 днів тому +1

    You bought what ive heard people call a "sidewinder".. (blade on the "wrong" side)
    Circular saw, not worm drive. Though they so have them in "right" and "left" handed models.
    You can hold the square the other way.. that is to say, with the fat part toward the front of the board.
    Another option is to be a big boy and ditch the square.

  • @ARF.Racing
    @ARF.Racing 20 днів тому +1

    I own this same exact saw, and its great for me as I am left handed. They do make their circular saws both in right and left handed versions, as well and a rear handled worm drive saw too.

  • @miker9043
    @miker9043 21 день тому +6

    Im a Pro carpenter for 40 years , framing i mark lines with square then put the square in my bag and make the cut . I will only use the square trick on trim and siding thats up to an inch thick with the saw depth adjusted up .

  • @speedywalden
    @speedywalden 21 день тому +4

    Last one.... lmfao. FLIP THE SQUARE

    • @user-ki9rx9pp9w
      @user-ki9rx9pp9w 21 день тому +3

      Yup by the time you hit it flipped you’ve already gone through with the deepest part of the blade.

  • @johanw9513
    @johanw9513 20 днів тому

    For some reason, worm drive saws are almost unheard pf on this side of the pond. Almost all the circular saws have the same motor arrangement as the Milwaukee. There’s a couple of the flexvolt deWalts around that is the other way around

  • @DILLSN0OB
    @DILLSN0OB 18 днів тому +2

    here i was thinking the revolution was underway. Nope just a saw rant. Love you wranglerstar.

  • @Clayman5577
    @Clayman5577 21 день тому +14

    Every great tradesman is ambidextrous, with power tools ,hand tools , and his own balance at heights . It’s a blessing .

    • @RamusHelstein
      @RamusHelstein 20 днів тому +1

      Every great contractor knows to buy the right tool and charge the homeowner for it.

  • @4pingpro
    @4pingpro 21 день тому +18

    No excuses for that but Milwaukee does make a “worm drive” version as well. 🤷‍♂️

    • @foubert45
      @foubert45 21 день тому +1

      Even my non wormdrive Dewalt clears the square.

    • @4pingpro
      @4pingpro 21 день тому

      @@foubert45 like I said no excuses for this one not clearing just saying they have other options for the “right hand issue”

  • @vim_usr2753
    @vim_usr2753 6 днів тому

    As a Southpaw, I love the Milwaukee. For right handed folks you’re absolutely right.

  • @madmonte4738
    @madmonte4738 4 дні тому

    As a left hander I am now looking at this saw.

  • @DavidWilliams-jt1im
    @DavidWilliams-jt1im 20 днів тому +6

    East coast men have encountered this same obstacle, but like my dear friend, Ron Swanson, we manned our way through it without all the whining!

  • @leederdavid4782
    @leederdavid4782 20 днів тому +3

    TWO furious rants in one day? I love it! Unfortunately, most non-worm drive saws do not clear a speed square. Frustrating for all of us.

  • @shadowdog500
    @shadowdog500 21 день тому

    I thought all the west coast men could eyeball the cut perfectly like Larry Haun.

  • @jensenfamilyhomestead4278
    @jensenfamilyhomestead4278 21 день тому

    They also make a saw with the blade on the correct side. It takes the full 7 1/4 inch circular saw blades instead of those silly 6 1/2 inch blades.

  • @bradleymorgan8223
    @bradleymorgan8223 21 день тому +7

    here's how the US forest service accidentally buys a left-handed saw

  • @christiansteele7386
    @christiansteele7386 21 день тому +4

    As an East coast man, that red object is not a saw

  • @BacktotheBasics101
    @BacktotheBasics101 17 днів тому

    My father has been a carpenter all of his life and uses what we call the Carpenter saw, which is the Milwaukee version in the video. But I grew up using a framing saw, which is the yellow saw in the video.
    I agree with you, I don’t understand how anybody could use the carpenter saw. The framing saw is so much nicer. The motor throws the energy into the force of your arm and wood or whatever you’re cutting and you can see everything so much better without having to Lean over what you’re doing.
    I suppose everyone has a preference, but me Framers saw is way better.

  • @thefix2573
    @thefix2573 19 днів тому

    I'm a finish carpenter and I've always wondered why circular saws were left handed, but a Skill Saw can be either. Like they can't flip the motor? Or make a CCW motor?
    I clamp and cut a lot with my circular saw and the wide side of the saw base can't pass the 3/4 inch straight edge board. I always have to use the skinny side of the deck plate against the straight edge and if you're only cutting an inch off it runs the risk of tipping and overcutting or wavy cutting the finished veneer panel.
    If Ryobi makes one the others will follow.

  • @camojim5402
    @camojim5402 21 день тому +4

    Just get the milwaukee worm drive problem solved. I have the regular dewalt circular saw, and it's configured the same way as your milwaukee. I hated it, so I bought the worm drive. God bless you are correct about the speed square nonsense

  • @KeepItSimpleSemperFi
    @KeepItSimpleSemperFi 21 день тому +3

    100% right!

  • @xvsj-s2x
    @xvsj-s2x 21 день тому +1

    Have you ever used a misery whip before ?

  • @brentoberholzer4718
    @brentoberholzer4718 20 днів тому

    So I don't know why they do it but the 6 3/4 saw blade is on one side and the 7 1/4 saw is on the other side. So the 7 1/4 would solve your dilemma. You will also notice that over time the depth adjustment leaver will fall below the shoe plate; so that every cut will losen the depth adjustment. Just " Larry Haun it"

  • @BattleChemist
    @BattleChemist 21 день тому +3

    That tool was designed BY and FOR *Sinister* East Coast men.... 🙄😉

  • @manny2ndamendment246
    @manny2ndamendment246 21 день тому +7

    the thin blue line crosses the line every day and we still put up with it because "back the blue"

  • @bigjoe8922
    @bigjoe8922 18 днів тому +1

    71/4 skilsaw the reigning world champion of circular saws for rough Carpentry framing ..

  • @welshwoodco
    @welshwoodco 20 днів тому

    Being from the UK we've never really had the worm drive style, which is probably reason I've always put my speed square at the back of the cut with it facing towards me. But, if a tool doesn't work for you, it doesn't work for you. I don't understand why everybody needs to try and convince you it should. It doesn't, there's a tool that does work for you, so use that one get your jobs done and onto the next job

  • @crankymac1484
    @crankymac1484 17 днів тому

    As a right handed framer/carpenter I absolutely agree and find clearance an issue. A worm drive saw is far superior in many ways.
    The only thing I think you’re missing is that Milwaukee (fuel) makes that exact sidewinder saw for both right and left hand. You can buy it with the blade on either side.

  • @design2survive
    @design2survive 21 день тому

    That Milwaukee is like the Tesla of saws..doesn’t need a speed square, it has autopilot.

  • @SLCHigh
    @SLCHigh 16 днів тому

    I’m left handed and this is awesome news to me. Milwaukee has a new customer!

  • @ralphspringfield9722
    @ralphspringfield9722 20 днів тому

    My blood pressure rises each time I pick up a “left-handed” saw!