'63 Combi Most Expensive Combi Auction

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  • @StargazerFS128
    @StargazerFS128 9 років тому +48

    One of the most beautiful cars ever made!

  • @davidhunternyc1
    @davidhunternyc1 9 років тому +56

    Practicality be damned. This 23 window VW bus is not only rare, but a rolliing work of art. A masterpiece of line, color, and form.

  • @67herby89
    @67herby89 7 років тому +2

    I'm a VW nut. Have owned a beautiful restored 1967 beetle and recently purchased a 66 convertible beetle, from original owner. The 66 is completely original. Paint, interior and top and all in great condition. And best of all the previous owner kept everything! From sale contract, EVERY service receipt and DMV registration....
    But I must say that bus going for 198K is just outrageous. They have made it completely impossible for the average person now to purchased one and the only thing that's going to be available now are going to be rust buckets going for $30K+. I know the history and the background but that's just too crazy.

    • @aphex14
      @aphex14 5 років тому

      Exactly!!!

  • @matttafakt
    @matttafakt 7 років тому +10

    I sold my 23 window back in 98 for 4500. It was rust free, totally complete and ran great. It sat on the auto trader for 4 months! What a joke.

  • @djmhyde
    @djmhyde 8 років тому +77

    200.000 dollars in a car that some pepole in my country use to sell fruits and vegetables...

    • @eljot6305
      @eljot6305 8 років тому

      Voce mora em Brasil?

    • @djmhyde
      @djmhyde 8 років тому

      i was born there, but today i live in UK

    • @superdavico
      @superdavico 7 років тому +3

      And you're still selling bananas?

    • @djmhyde
      @djmhyde 7 років тому

      no se compra una Porsche vendiendo plátanos..

    • @ZerokillerOppel1
      @ZerokillerOppel1 7 років тому +2

      djmhyde back in the day it was just another utility vehicle. It was ahead of it's days beccause it offered much space for little money. The mini van version was indeed a new innovative thing but was still cheaper then a lot of the US contemporary people's movers. Don't get me wrong: I love these cars and this one is gorgeous!

  • @woodyw6891
    @woodyw6891 9 місяців тому +1

    Several years ago, saw a ‘63 Bus auction for $213,000 there at Barrett Jackson.

  • @dhd951
    @dhd951 8 років тому +1

    When Debby and I first got married we had a 1963 combi VW... it was great fun! This one is beautiful!

  • @btinsley1
    @btinsley1 7 років тому +1

    it boils down to this....a car is WORTH what one is WILLING to pay. May this fella enjoy that beautiful vehicle for years to come ! =)

  • @schlusselmensch
    @schlusselmensch 10 років тому +13

    I spent a good deal of my childhood travelling in a '59 bus. What a gawdawful thing it was; a mobile terrarium in the summer and a most effective icebox in the winter, all while criminally underpowered. Obviously for some nostalgia is a powerful thing.

    • @joevandamm
      @joevandamm 10 років тому +2

      Thank you. Finally a bit of honesty about these miserable campers.

    • @schlusselmensch
      @schlusselmensch 10 років тому +2

      vayuwings Whereas your childhood goal to grow up to be a supercilious Internet nitwit came off without a hitch?

    • @joevandamm
      @joevandamm 10 років тому

      Let me just add to this if you will that comfort and speed are everything.

    • @schlusselmensch
      @schlusselmensch 10 років тому +1

      I'm curious what you meant by "poor maintanance"? My father was a top flight RCAF fitter and rigger and certainly knew how to maintain and repair a car. And I'm even better than he was. I have no idea why you're going on about airplanes although I'm pleased that you can still get it up at eighty+! I don't know what it has to do with a woefully underpowered, ill handling, unheated box on wheels though. One thing's for sure, for the money this guy spent, I'd have an SF260, thank you very much.

    • @schlusselmensch
      @schlusselmensch 10 років тому

      vayuwings SIAI-Marchetti SF260 / WACO Meteor

  • @THOMASTHESAILOR
    @THOMASTHESAILOR 7 років тому +1

    That's the most beautiful VW van I've ever seen.. The workmanship was second to none..

  • @ericlevy8318
    @ericlevy8318 5 років тому +14

    Screwed VW Busses for the rest of us, for eternity...

    • @StrangerHappened
      @StrangerHappened 5 років тому

      This car is one of the cutest ever, just amazing overall.

  • @trappedinlafayette
    @trappedinlafayette 10 років тому +9

    Thing of it is; VW never built one this straight and perfect, it's over restored.............

  • @lex3729
    @lex3729 7 років тому +1

    When I was a kid we had the same model. My dad used to drive through Times Square, and we would stand on the seats and wave at people! It died in a head-on crash with a bull in Mexico.

  • @JayDubber
    @JayDubber 9 років тому +63

    Thanks for fucking it up for the rest of us, now we can't afford to get em.

    • @ahmaddarwish1486
      @ahmaddarwish1486 7 років тому

      yep, crushed my dreams. I go to bus shows and cry

    • @iartistic3617
      @iartistic3617 7 років тому

      yes you can. JUST GO FOR IT.

    • @angelhernandez-uy3rv
      @angelhernandez-uy3rv 7 років тому

      J W ...we can bro we just realy have yo work hard and have patients to get one but one Say you could find one maybee not un dat condition but time an patients

    • @TERRYW00DS
      @TERRYW00DS 7 років тому

      He's got a point. A patient is someone in a hospital, I believe you mean patience. Patients aren't going to buy cars for you. Well, maybe really wealthy mental patients. Actually, maybe you're on to something.

  • @davenelms68
    @davenelms68 7 років тому +1

    Wow,,,I bought a 1966 23 window in 1971 for $700,,would only do 60 mph but was lot of fun to drive, wish I still had it to say the least, this is insane.

  • @fk4515
    @fk4515 8 років тому +1

    I can remember in 1964 when my parents traded off their 62 bug for a Gray and White 64 deluxe Micro-bus. Ours did not have the rear corner windows, the middle bench was 2 wide and our had buckets rather than the front 3 wide bench.

  • @lestersart5834
    @lestersart5834 10 років тому +11

    Hahah. Bought mine 15 years ago for $600. Couldn't do anything with it for a few years. Now, I am finishing up a full restoration, getting ready for paint. Hehehe. Those that thought I was stupid for buying it are sure quiet these days.

    • @mrrolandlawrence
      @mrrolandlawrence 10 років тому

      the same, used to get early T1s from states like Arizona for literally rust free for < $1000 bought them back to the UK and sold for $5000 and though that was high as it went. wow though $198,000 !!!!

    • @sabs93
      @sabs93 9 років тому +1

      Roland Lawrence For the 23 window thoug. the normal ones dosent go for that high

    • @RayJacksonbighmw
      @RayJacksonbighmw 7 років тому

      Got my 1963 Kombi in 2002 for a mere $1,200, how much would she be now???

    • @ahmaddarwish1486
      @ahmaddarwish1486 6 років тому

      condition is everything, but
      restored like 30000

  • @stebenit
    @stebenit 9 років тому +2

    well worth the money ,it was restored to pristine condition, paintwork was flawless...amazing vw bus....

  • @lockwpa
    @lockwpa 11 років тому +4

    Love these...used to flip them cheap in the 80's. If I hit the lotto, I'm picking this one up for $250K.....

  •  9 років тому

    My Father had this one in 1963-1972 ... :-)))) great car, great time... He sold it for 1200 Deutsch Marks... 600 € today...600 Dollars ... 120000 km ....

  • @williamkniesly5090
    @williamkniesly5090 8 років тому +14

    I liked my 1963 bus, but it was the most unreliable car I have ever owned. I would buy another one if I could afford it. go figure.

  • @tanello2
    @tanello2 10 років тому +21

    if germans make something they make is soo fucking good that no other country can beat them

    • @techo61
      @techo61 10 років тому +1

      Yep, like making wars hey?

    • @tanello2
      @tanello2 10 років тому +2

      hey, they did made the best wars! it took half of the FUCKING PLANET TO DEFEAT THE GERMANY! France got so fucked,UK almost got fucked,poland got fucked ,Norway got fucked,and many others has well, so yes germany did made a good war !

    • @TheCalgarycanuck
      @TheCalgarycanuck 10 років тому

      Tanel Murd are you sure your moniker is Tanel Murd, not Manel Turd?

    • @tanello2
      @tanello2 10 років тому +2

      and what are you ? Horny Miller ?

    • @boogiedownbronx73
      @boogiedownbronx73 7 років тому +2

      JAPAN they make everything better

  • @hartmutthomas989
    @hartmutthomas989 10 місяців тому

    Den schönsten Samba-Bus den VW je rausgebracht hat .Top restauriert .

  • @bartlettj79
    @bartlettj79 10 років тому +2

    It's Kombi (FYI) and it's not even a barn door! That's crazy, I wonder how much an early 50's 23 window barn door would fetch at one of these. If the right people were bidding I would guess in the 250-300k range judging by this.

  • @jondoe888i
    @jondoe888i 7 років тому +1

    Mass insanity! I had a 54 Barndoor. Paid $80 in 1967. Might this be one of the few restorations where the owner actually made money on their project? I love seeing this, but the money disgusts me. People with too much money, trying to outdo the next guy, because they don't know what to do with it!

  • @amblt1
    @amblt1 7 років тому

    Oh, my. We had one just like that in 1965-67. Guess we should have kept it!!!

  • @bigearedmouse17
    @bigearedmouse17 8 років тому +8

    This Bus was worth 198,000 Dollars if there was 148,000 Dollars in the glove box.

    • @israndy
      @israndy 7 років тому +2

      Hee hee hee. "Glove Box"... nope, ain't got one

    • @midwest4416
      @midwest4416 7 років тому

      In the words of Maxwell Smart "Missed it by ' ' That much.

  • @regfenster
    @regfenster 7 років тому

    Bloody hell, As a young child in the 1970's my grandfather use to cut spit screen buses up for scrap metal value at the back of his garage business.

  • @puntagordy
    @puntagordy 8 років тому

    I was at Barrett Jackson and checked it out up close before it hit the block. Much nicer in person. Suttle red pin stripe on the chrome.

  • @423alonso
    @423alonso 10 років тому

    Congrats to the buyer,that is crazy this is why you pay from 7K to 10 K for a rusty one God Bless them...

  • @azcartruck
    @azcartruck 8 років тому

    I bought my 65 blue Transporter in 75 for $800 and drove it for 10 years.Traded it in on a new 85 pickup and they gave me $2000 for it.Sometimes wish it was still in the family.

  • @paulhein662
    @paulhein662 Рік тому

    I believe this used to be my dad's van. He sold it in quite rough shape to someone who restored it to perfect condition

  • @aphex14
    @aphex14 5 років тому +2

    Greed in the VW community to purposely drive the market up. I saw that 1st hand back in the 80s and 90s...And they still sell stuff at Pomona and keep hiking the market up.

  • @ddf414
    @ddf414 10 років тому +1

    I wounded if this caused a increased price people ask for their vintage VW's?

  • @montetown5741
    @montetown5741 11 років тому +1

    @0:38, Butthead from Bevis and Butthead said, "I really like those fold-open, window ....panes"

  • @ghalibabubaker88abubaker87
    @ghalibabubaker88abubaker87 Рік тому

    Wow that's a sweet one☺️ myself owner of a 56 panel bus fully restored it just a month ago and now starting a 56 oval 😎

  • @MrMjolnir69
    @MrMjolnir69 4 місяці тому

    What about the original VW logo? Why restore so meticulously only to put the weird Gap between the V&W? It always touched / sat on the middle point- subtly visible through the V to show it was 2 Letters; Volks Wagon. (o not e)

  • @agoetz64
    @agoetz64 11 років тому

    Now I know that I never should have sold my tan 66 Kombi (Westfalia) camper with a white pop top and a tent! I had it for 20 years and 4 engines, but gave up on it when the rust started getting in the lower body.

  • @theoriginalJo3l
    @theoriginalJo3l 7 років тому

    That's great! He was so happy when he won.

  • @MarcusTDM
    @MarcusTDM 8 років тому +4

    These stupid auctions only push up prices even more. Don't get me wrong I love VW buses but they're not exactly rare but fetch a lot more money than some very rare sports cars which is a little ridiculous.

    • @chrisjarmain
      @chrisjarmain 8 років тому +1

      MarcusTDM it's buying into an image. you get modern day bus things and you kinda get labeled. driving one of these yiu get smiles waves and good vibes. alot of it now these days is just that. :)

    • @MarcusTDM
      @MarcusTDM 8 років тому +2

      chris jarmain Yes, that's it, you've hit the nail on the head, you buy into the image and an experience if you like. I really enjoyed the week we had in one. Just a little frustrating that prices are so high over here in the U.K.

    • @chrisjarmain
      @chrisjarmain 8 років тому +1

      MarcusTDM yes! I wouldn't own one here in the UK! Kent weather is naff. so buying one here seems silly. I've got a plan to get one imported 😎😎

  • @S7tronic
    @S7tronic 9 років тому

    It's still a fucking minivan. A 200k minivan, nostalgia is a powerful drug.

    • @dasvwden3656
      @dasvwden3656 9 років тому

      Yes it is. Same goes for anything, not just automotive...

  • @joshbriggsDayZBeast
    @joshbriggsDayZBeast 9 років тому

    I thought Kobi's where just vans with windows and Samba's had all the seats and windows etc like this one?

  • @foskco87
    @foskco87 6 років тому

    That is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen.

  • @petezereeah517
    @petezereeah517 10 років тому +3

    Jay Leno said, "I want it PERIOD! Make it happen."

    • @lestersart5834
      @lestersart5834 10 років тому

      More likely it was Jerry Seinfeld. He already owns one and has a whole collection of air cooled cars.

    • @MICHGO1
      @MICHGO1 7 років тому +2

      FLUFFY.

  • @RayJacksonbighmw
    @RayJacksonbighmw 8 років тому +2

    It's NOT a Kombi, it's actually a 23-Window Deluxe Microbus, my 1963 Kombi has only 11 windows in it, but THIS one is A THING OF BEAUTY!!! Just watch the bidding action (and the $$$!) go up and ENJOY!!! . I'll bet my Kombi would bring in some $$$ in the sum of a five-digit figure but nothing like this!!!

  • @vwaudiwelder
    @vwaudiwelder Місяць тому

    GOODNESS THIS GRAY IS ASTOUNDING! Are these truly worth $4,000 in any condition???? Is one thousand clams too much to spend for one I just found with half the glass including ovals up top?

  • @EricFB
    @EricFB 8 років тому

    Considering it's not origional, this is bananas. Pick up a body out of southern states for 20k and put another 30k into it and get the same result.

  • @bluetoad2001
    @bluetoad2001 9 років тому +4

    worth at least 200K, where you gonna get an original 21 window bus?

    • @michaelslack6227
      @michaelslack6227 9 років тому +6

      +buzz kirschner Actually it is a 23 window...more rare than 21's

    • @stevejones8665
      @stevejones8665 7 років тому

      I count 25 window with the 1/4 lights

    • @johnhenryoliver1
      @johnhenryoliver1 3 роки тому

      @@JosephYearwood precisely, this example is German built 63/64 not Brazilian hence crazy price

  • @insonh21
    @insonh21 10 років тому +3

    I have this dream of going to one of these auctions with unlimited funds and buying some rare cars than having a demolition derby in the parking lot with my friend

    • @AllenSunnyD
      @AllenSunnyD 10 років тому +4

      We all now hope you dont become successful in life with unlimited funds

    • @insonh21
      @insonh21 10 років тому

      you mean I shouldn't send the suggestion to Johnny Knoxville for the next "Jackass" movie?
      he did it with a rent-a-car
      funniest thing I ever saw

  • @kylesmith5046
    @kylesmith5046 10 років тому +1

    More money than sense department!! This is insane LOL

  • @JamesCalbraith
    @JamesCalbraith 10 років тому +2

    That's only about twice as much as some of the vans I've seen in the UK :)

  • @RayJacksonbighmw
    @RayJacksonbighmw 9 років тому

    An absolute thing of beauty!!!

  • @erockfuk
    @erockfuk 11 років тому +14

    worst commentators ever. they have absolutely nothing to add to the discussion on why the value/bids would be so high. yes, it's outrageous, but they fail to mention it's a 23-window bus, which is why it is so sought after. the other rare bus that fetches the most money is the 21-window, yet most buses were 15,13, or 11. none of this was mentioned by these guys who are supposed to be knowledgeable car commentators.

  • @suzanaandrade2265
    @suzanaandrade2265 7 років тому

    Que lindaaaaaaa....... quem me dera a minha, 1972 azul, caiçara que esta parada ha 8 anos estivesse assim

  • @rickfitzgerald4426
    @rickfitzgerald4426 10 місяців тому

    What is this bus doing today?

  • @epauloconnor
    @epauloconnor 2 роки тому

    Why does it say Z3 window bus when it should say 23 window bus?

  • @benshore7357
    @benshore7357 Рік тому

    I like this bus🎉 in my country we use these to haul manure from the dairy farm 🎉

  • @paulfenech3379
    @paulfenech3379 11 років тому

    Unreal. Love the splitty kombis!

  • @socksumi
    @socksumi 2 роки тому

    Most beautiful rolling loaf of bread ever made.

  • @no_handle_required
    @no_handle_required 8 років тому +3

    Ridiculous. So many better things to spend that kind of money on. That bus is badass though.

  • @edwu8253
    @edwu8253 7 років тому +2

    I cant afford the front bumper😭

  • @christianadventure
    @christianadventure 8 років тому

    That bus is in amazing condition! $200k ... Wow!

  • @antiwarmist3992
    @antiwarmist3992 7 років тому

    I had one in 1979, paid 250 dollars for it, dove it for years.

  • @dr.wilfriedhitzler1885
    @dr.wilfriedhitzler1885 9 місяців тому

    You can order an new VW-Bus like that for around 120 000.- in Hannover, VW Plant, Germany. Why visiting an auction?

  • @MisterFuturtastic
    @MisterFuturtastic 11 років тому

    Can anyone find the actual paint colors and process that was used on this bus? I want to use these exact colors on a different type of vehicle. I heard it's a bit different than the actual stock look which makes it tough to find.

    • @KihlbaumCreative
      @KihlbaumCreative 10 років тому +1

      I think it's the mouse grey L325 and pearl white L87. Thats stock colors for some sambas (and it's the color I have on mine). Good luck with the vehicle

    • @MisterFuturtastic
      @MisterFuturtastic 10 років тому

      KihlbaumCreative Thanks but I have also read on forums that people who are into classic buses say that the colors on this bus don't look totally stock but I like them and want to reproduce them.

  • @Maloy7800
    @Maloy7800 7 років тому +1

    Can't imagine how cheap dollar is. 200k only buys you a used VW van. :-(

  • @djdon60
    @djdon60 6 років тому

    I wasn't aware the spelling'd been changed, from "Kombi."

  • @raiderman28
    @raiderman28 7 років тому

    such a beautiful restoration, but $200k people with money will spend it on anything, but won't people that need it.

  • @persson882
    @persson882 7 років тому

    A friend to me got a vw split bus for free that had been sitting in the forest for 40 years in northern Sweden, he sold it for $ 12,000, it was very rusty and lacked floor and engine,
    Besides that, it was complete

  • @professorpatpending8731
    @professorpatpending8731 8 років тому

    i have a factory multi page VW sales brochure on the this model.

  • @TheBeachedone
    @TheBeachedone 10 років тому +2

    that model is a 23 window samba, not a kombi.

  • @2012spacetraveler
    @2012spacetraveler 10 років тому +2

    Yea the seller is jumping up and down ...he can't believe his luck, would have loved to been there and seen the look on his face when he went to get his cheque and saw that he only got half of the selling price as the auction took 30 - 50% he forgot about that detail

    • @pussy7479
      @pussy7479 10 років тому

      They will have a deal its a percentage upto a certain amount so maybe 30% uip to 75000 then the percentage will drop

    • @dennismonello3841
      @dennismonello3841 10 років тому +1

      you couldnt be any more wrong, the auction house takes the fees which are paid by the buyer the seller gets the full hammer price

    • @3865ron
      @3865ron 10 років тому

      Dennis Monello
      I'm pretty sure that the auction fee is 10%, but that's not set in stone.

    • @tooge47
      @tooge47 10 років тому +1

      3865ron
      you guys overlooked the fact the IRS will swoop in shortly thereafter

  • @happy1465
    @happy1465 10 років тому

    It's a rare 23 window. 99% of buses rusted away...and of those left a fraction of 1% are 23 window models.

  • @stenbak88
    @stenbak88 7 років тому +1

    God damn hippies finally got some money so now they are buying back their old cars just in better shape

  • @theradioactivetoothpastesh4441
    @theradioactivetoothpastesh4441 8 років тому

    I wonder who bought it? The guy is real serious in closing the deal.

  • @jtorres8639
    @jtorres8639 8 років тому

    Dave Kindig's went for well over $325,000 after auction premium

  • @Nocturnes1984
    @Nocturnes1984 7 років тому

    The average wage for 1 manhour in my country is 42€
    Just calculate the manhoures that this took to finish it in such detail.
    Thats the beauty of rare objects...they cost money

  • @wrenchg3954
    @wrenchg3954 7 років тому

    ya you're right but patience,the money will arrive

  • @uluckout1
    @uluckout1 9 років тому

    imagine a 1954 23 window barndoor RHD and walkthrough will worth? 500k?

  • @retroman3075
    @retroman3075 9 років тому +5

    Cool little bus, but not even remotely close to being worth 200k. Man Barrette Jackson is a total rip off.

    • @williamkelley7654
      @williamkelley7654 9 років тому +1

      +Retroman Barette Jackson has ruined the muscle car pricing for everything. Lots of people out there with lots of money to burn and they want that car from their youth at all costs.

    • @michaelwalker1119
      @michaelwalker1119 9 років тому

      True. BJ have inflated the prices of a lot of cars. The fools who paid over the top are now down to half what they paid or less. Back down to there true value.

  • @SinfoniaMayor
    @SinfoniaMayor 8 років тому

    perdon,pero este modelo no es de 1952/1954 ?

    • @deepbluedrone
      @deepbluedrone 8 років тому

      The model years are not the same in south America and USA. (Sorry, my Spanish is not that good)

  • @markposselt9029
    @markposselt9029 9 років тому +2

    Worth every cent

  • @catbolinha5452
    @catbolinha5452 7 років тому

    In Brazil you cab bus one VW Bus for $ 5000

  • @kapitolyopasig3532
    @kapitolyopasig3532 7 років тому

    IN THE PH IT STILL COMMANDS A HIGH PRICE

  • @Blueslady111
    @Blueslady111 7 років тому

    Der Hammer!!! I love it what a Car!

  • @puntagordy
    @puntagordy 11 років тому

    I have seen this at Barrett Jackson auction

  • @waiting4aliens
    @waiting4aliens 7 років тому

    Had a 67 with 21 windows that I think I sold for $400 in 1972.

  • @jacobreed93
    @jacobreed93 2 роки тому

    my dad had the same van his was just green he sold it for $6500 in the year 2003 boy he regrets it

  • @Godscountry2732
    @Godscountry2732 10 років тому

    A trip to Brazil would have saved him about 175,000.

  • @wordreet
    @wordreet 8 років тому +5

    It's a beauty, and super cool, but this was just some rich people playing their foolish rich game.

    • @aphex14
      @aphex14 5 років тому

      Yup! Purposely to drive up the market.

  • @davidhayes4814
    @davidhayes4814 7 років тому

    This would have been the equivalent of $30K max in today's money, when new.

  • @alexgrant4576
    @alexgrant4576 10 років тому

    This is the reason I wont be able to afford one when I can actually save some $$. Everyone thinks this is what they're worth now.
    I've wanted one for a decade but hell if id pay that.

  • @samuelapiazza47
    @samuelapiazza47 4 роки тому

    People are learning this was "OVER PRICED". Many don't sell because of this EXPECTATION.

  • @wes574
    @wes574 10 років тому

    I'll take 2 of them. What a premo van.

  • @20vtechnik
    @20vtechnik 9 місяців тому

    What a beauty!

  • @forestflame172
    @forestflame172 7 років тому

    i swear i saw this exact van near my house

  • @bobtepedino5661
    @bobtepedino5661 8 років тому

    $100 says the Buyer owns a Jerry Garcia T-shirt

  • @RHNLNDR
    @RHNLNDR 7 років тому

    Look at the Porsche painture colours of the 60s, pink, purple, aso. And nowadays mainly black, white, grey, dark blue =/

  • @minutemarvels247
    @minutemarvels247 7 років тому

    This is art, design and history for sale.
    Don't even think about the money put into the restoration,
    it's not about that.

  • @jaqswiss
    @jaqswiss 4 роки тому

    wich collor it was paint this car?

    • @johnhenryoliver1
      @johnhenryoliver1 3 роки тому

      Mouse grey, pearl white, silver white bumper and wheel rim