I think they were both suffering. I saw an interview with Martin saying they could only play the short edit version live at first, too demanding stamina wise.
Wow I never noticed how easier it is to understand this part when isolated. You can spot all the loops. After all these years I suddenly realize that this song is not that weird
To me it's opposite. Trying to break it down makes me realize how intricate this thing is. Trying to play it - first, the speed alone is insane, but if you get that part, now you got to follow the rhythm and changes.. It's a world of hurt.
Yeah it's simpler to process, but still not "easy" per se. This really helps, but it's still gonna take the average person quite a while to get that stamina down. It's insane.
@@Darkhalo314 Maybe it`s a matter of taste...but they made my life much easier. The way their products behave in terms of mixing, sound and feeling made me give up traditional recording
Marten and Fredrik have both gone on record stating they used to use TC Electronics pedals into a head, but they switched to only using a Line 6 Vetta II.
I'd love to, but I'm not sure where I would find them. Bleed was released as DLC for Rock Band, so I was able to extract the stems from the game. No other Meshuggah songs have been released there though :(
SpiralShadow123 if they ever did release another Meshuggah song, oh my god there so many good ones to pick from. people would probably have fun with new millenium cyanide Christ, but good luck ever getting a studio to release the individual tracks haha. the album was made in 98. as far as today's stuff, violent sleep of reason would be super sick in my opinion. Our rage won't die would be another good one.
most important thing is the hand tone...that's the reason why everybody tries to be meshuggah and fail, the tightness comes from the playing, the muting position, etc
You know I have to keep it 100 with you. I've listened to and played this song on guitar a thousand times over the years. Until I heard this, during the solo, I had no idea that the clean chorus guitar kept playing a part. I just never noticed. That is incredible
@@soullessSiIence polyrythms is technically correct, at least for the drums. The guitars often play a polymeter riff centered around the 4/4 hit-hat of the drums. But you can interpret what the drummer plays as a polyrythm. A 4/4 beat on the hi-hat and some odd numbers of hits on the kick an/or snare.
Even though i'm not a musician or at least, not yet, i like to pat some rhythm on my legs or table or anything that really makes a sound and i've gotta say, learning these rhythm patterns is such a struggle, but once you get the hang of it, it's so fun to do!
Hey man, I would need to use your rock band stems for Bleed, but it seems like there is a guitar track missing on your ''guitar track'' video. I know some rock band songs have extra tracks with more content on it, and I suppose the missing track is on the extra track. Anyway, could it be possible to send it to me or to upload it? I really really need it, thanks a lot :)
Hey, turns out you're right. I just looked at the files and there's a "song.ogg" that contains the extra part at 2:02, 3:45, and 4:50. If you want to get the original rock band files there's a new website that they're hosted on. Go to "chorus.fightthe.pw" in your browser, type in meshuggah bleed and it should be the third one down (make sure it is RhythmAuthors chart). Let me know if there's anything else you need. Cheers
**Sarcastic Tip:** Can't replicate this sound or rhythm with the guitar you own? easy, call this video "crap" and get insulted for it. P.S.: Come on, don't be ridiculous and go practice.
There's a lot of people now that think they need to drop thousands on gear or plugins to get the perfect "djent" or modern metal tone, when in reality it's usually the bass and sometimes kick drum used cleverly in a mix to give off the illusion of the guitar tone being more complex.
Ricardo Stevens that’s how metal works. You’ll never replicate the tones of your favourite songs just with a guitar. A lot of it is the bass, and how the drums and vocals fill out every other frequency to give it a full sound.
Look at his wrist! It is so relaxed. What a technique. He looks like he is not moving. This is machine human.
It's an image
@@spinky999 whoooosh
@@spinky999 holy moly ugotta be kiddin bruv
@@spinky999 r/woosh
@@spinky999 bro
BEAMS OF FIRE SWEEP THROUGH MY WRIST
Fr!
Through my head
I just figured out the picking pattern and I would definitely say it’s a lot easier to play on guitar than drums
@@youtubetimewithliam2846 You missed the joke.
@@youtubetimewithliam2846 wooooosh
3:26 I swear fredrik was smiling when he recorded this part in the studio.
That’s how good it is.
think about how hard it would be to record left and right THAT tight
@@brandonrogers4810 also sounds looped as fuck
@@detts5082not really, have you heard i? This song is a field day for him
@@detts5082 Yeah it kinda sounds like a loop in a weird way but not sure
I think they were both suffering. I saw an interview with Martin saying they could only play the short edit version live at first, too demanding stamina wise.
2:35 - 3:27 my fav part
Mine is the intro and the first few minutes
3:41-4:50 is mine
0:00 - 7:26 is mine!
10 out of 10 carpal tunnel specialists would NOT recommend this song.
No pain no gain bitchez
Meshuggah does what is not recommended
My Truck didn't start.. I recorded some audio for the garage so they could get an idea what was wrong..
Somehow that audio ended up here.
Underrated comment
Wow I never noticed how easier it is to understand this part when isolated. You can spot all the loops. After all these years I suddenly realize that this song is not that weird
It's still hell to learn as a drummer..My shins bled the first day of practice..it's relentless
To me it's opposite. Trying to break it down makes me realize how intricate this thing is. Trying to play it - first, the speed alone is insane, but if you get that part, now you got to follow the rhythm and changes.. It's a world of hurt.
Hats off to you drummer dudes.
Nathanael Goodwin do you mean literally? How does that work?
Yeah it's simpler to process, but still not "easy" per se. This really helps, but it's still gonna take the average person quite a while to get that stamina down. It's insane.
He seems awfully still.
This is because he's moving so fast that our eyes can't keep up
But it... move...
Its called the frames of the camera are to slow to pick up whats happening :D
This video is 1fph
He is playing though
It's honestly crazy how much more thrashy this sounds without Haake's kicks. Meshuggah is so good with layering everything
I never actually noticed the ambient guitar still playing in the background during the solo
marten hagstrom 💪
@@zinusz811 Marten Hagstrom is a fuckin beast, thr whole band is 😂
I feel sorry for the pick he is using. Stay strong little pick!
Never had noticed how this solo is, and for the first time I hear the cleans in the solo's background. Just beautiful!
You rally should listen on beter earbuds or headphones. Also play flac or cds
that solo is just beautiful
Bleed is one of those songs that doesn't make sense unless a whole band is playing it.
Why is this so accurate
Can totally make sense
Listen to the drums only. You'll hear the original song.
it makes sense to me, it's a banger!
Makes sense to me idk what you thought it would sound like
He actually plays a majority of the first chugs on the open 6th string but goes down to the 5th fret on 7th string for the upward bends
I never realized how beautiful the solo was till i listened to it isolated
many versions live, this imo is not the best one :)
At 3:26 I can hear a smile of relief.
BuT yOu caN'T HeAR A sMiLe
Sarcastic comment
For anyone who is trying to rebuild this perfect guitar tone : try out the "Fortin Nameless" Plugin by NEURAL DSP
Thanks man!!! or you can boost an AMP triple recto preamp pedal and run it through a good fx loop
I haven't bought neural DSP yet but I really love what they have.
Is Neural DSP worth it? I already have Amplitube 3 and 4, plus Bias FX. I've heard a lot about Neural DSP recently
@@Darkhalo314 Maybe it`s a matter of taste...but they made my life much easier. The way their products behave in terms of mixing, sound and feeling made me give up traditional recording
Marten and Fredrik have both gone on record stating they used to use TC Electronics pedals into a head, but they switched to only using a Line 6 Vetta II.
been practicing this for a few hours and already getting good
Jonathan Gallup how is it after 8 months?
Nicola Galbusera same question
He probably quit within 5 minutes. This song is an endurance test. Not much musicality in here.
I play this song like three times just because it's so catchy. Although the riffs are very complex in rhythm therms playing this is a lot of fun.
@@soullessSiIence >Implying complex rhythms can't be musical
>huh
This is the pinnacle of chugchugchug
Speaking for myself, Fredriks leads are second to none. So much feeling !
you should do some other meshuggah songs please
I'd love to, but I'm not sure where I would find them. Bleed was released as DLC for Rock Band, so I was able to extract the stems from the game. No other Meshuggah songs have been released there though :(
SpiralShadow123 if they ever did release another Meshuggah song, oh my god there so many good ones to pick from. people would probably have fun with new millenium cyanide Christ, but good luck ever getting a studio to release the individual tracks haha. the album was made in 98. as far as today's stuff, violent sleep of reason would be super sick in my opinion. Our rage won't die would be another good one.
SpiralShadow123 would you be able to release all the stems for bleed? Or could you only find the guitars?
mathprodigy my favorite song of theirs (along with a few of the songs on FBM) is Stengah, that one'd be so sick to play on the drums
0:00 - 7:25 my favourite part
I like the part when you can hear the guitar
😅
That is absolutely THE best metal guitar tone I have ever heard. Sounds like someone put some EMG’s on a chainsaw. Positively beautiful!
Its Lundgren M series pickups. Im getting some for my 7 string shortly. Amazing metal tone.
Well, it's nothing special, pickups aside wich rally does not matter much for this sound. A stock cubase ampsim was used for the tones.
@@wijons522nah that was koloss, this is line 6 vetta 2
most important thing is the hand tone...that's the reason why everybody tries to be meshuggah and fail, the tightness comes from the playing, the muting position, etc
@@Julian66666666666666 true, the tone has to be tight tho for it to work
Tell me that im not the only who waits for those drums to begin smashing together with that beast riff🌋
God-Level synchronization
its just so damn consistent
You know I have to keep it 100 with you. I've listened to and played this song on guitar a thousand times over the years. Until I heard this, during the solo, I had no idea that the clean chorus guitar kept playing a part. I just never noticed. That is incredible
90 % washing machine sound, 10% guitar sound
You can listen forever, how clear it sounds.
The solo.. oh my god
It. Move.
5:38
cool how he changes the basic picking pattern between sections, esp. between 1st & 2nd verses. future breed machine t-shirt btw
Actual wrists of steel
Thanks for that. I was having issues separating the guitar chugs from the bass drums. I've been playing this wrong for months.
Sounds like it herta lot to play this.
Remembers me ride the lighting tone
3:40 onwards my fav bit guys x
Meshuggah vid let the time signature arguments commence
It's 4/4
It's 32/32 but with 5/8 dotted triplet at a 7/11 polyrythm.
I sound so smart
4/4
Just play it loud through a guitar amp.. its awesome and yer neighbors will think you are improving sooooo fast
😂😂🔥
God dammit, it's so tight!!!
Can you do one of these for future breed machine?
love the solo!
4:20 legendary
crazy wrist movement!!!!!
1:45 - 2:35 fav part
the solo kinda sounds like one of the settings on the Brian May pedal (I know he didn't use that btw)
Hell, he might have lol
Awesome playing! wanna play in my band?
i dont know how to tell you this...
@@biowebset4581 same :/
0:53 socks stuck in washer
Who would give this thumbs down?......seriously!..i want names!👊👊
I tried to match this with the drum track and for some reason I can't
Match the 000-0 riff with the kick drums. Other than that, you can’t really do it, mainly because Meshuggah loves to make confusing polyrhythms.
@@Zawmbbeh polymeters*
@@soullessSiIence polyrythms is technically correct, at least for the drums. The guitars often play a polymeter riff centered around the 4/4 hit-hat of the drums. But you can interpret what the drummer plays as a polyrythm. A 4/4 beat on the hi-hat and some odd numbers of hits on the kick an/or snare.
Rational gaze?
1:44 nice
Even though i'm not a musician or at least, not yet, i like to pat some rhythm on my legs or table or anything that really makes a sound and i've gotta say, learning these rhythm patterns is such a struggle, but once you get the hang of it, it's so fun to do!
How though? Like how is every note so audible and pronounced but so fast wtf
Is the background sound the second guitar track at a lower volume or does the EQ have reverb?
Wait, this song isn't just drums ?
Jens Kidman: voice drum
Frederik Thordendal: lead drums
Mårten Hagstrom: rhythm drums
Dick Lövgren: bass drums
Thomas Haake: drums
How do people isolate instruments from a mix?
This song looks like complicated to play
*sounds
Sounds, looks, whatever. It IS Hard as shit
hard as f**k :D Tried to learn it in a month but couldn't do it...almost tho
not really tbh
You just gotta get the wrist work down for your picking hand
Can you get the bass and drums as well?
thanks for this!
Came for 0:53
Epic!
Hey man, I would need to use your rock band stems for Bleed, but it seems like there is a guitar track missing on your ''guitar track'' video. I know some rock band songs have extra tracks with more content on it, and I suppose the missing track is on the extra track. Anyway, could it be possible to send it to me or to upload it? I really really need it, thanks a lot :)
Hey, turns out you're right. I just looked at the files and there's a "song.ogg" that contains the extra part at 2:02, 3:45, and 4:50.
If you want to get the original rock band files there's a new website that they're hosted on. Go to "chorus.fightthe.pw" in your browser, type in meshuggah bleed and it should be the third one down (make sure it is RhythmAuthors chart).
Let me know if there's anything else you need. Cheers
It's the 5th one down now.
Finger drums go brrrr
4:45 = solo
what am I supposed to do if my forearm starts to spark?
The right hand of doom ⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️
⬇️⬆️⬇️🔹⬆️
Riff at 2.35 is the shit
I used to think this was overrated!
Glad you came to your senses
I still do.
Easy.
my brain stops at 2:35
Just Br00thall!
6:50 what’s going on there?
harmonizing between 2 guitars, going between tritones and minor 3rds i think?
How do they triple track riffs like this?...
Copy & paste lmao
Copy paste and move ahead by 0.07 seconds to fix phase issues
So if they copy paste thier songs how do they remember them at thier live shows?
@@MaxMiller614 wrong that doesnt work you get big mono not stereo you have to record multiple takes on opposite speakers panned evenly
It's probably at least four rythm tracks!
Nice
2 guitar play at a time right?!
No wonder this song is called Bleed.
**Sarcastic Tip:** Can't replicate this sound or rhythm with the guitar you own? easy, call this video "crap" and get insulted for it.
P.S.: Come on, don't be ridiculous and go practice.
Bruthall
See what you did there 😏
All I hear is Bill burr
How the fuck did he play all that without moving a muscle something ain't right here
The guitar sounds better without drums because in my opinion it has a better rythm now when you can hear it fully
0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0
000-0-000-0-000-0-000-0-000-0
im sorry this was on rockband?
crazy how wimpy metal guitar tracks sound without the bass and drums.
There's a lot of people now that think they need to drop thousands on gear or plugins to get the perfect "djent" or modern metal tone, when in reality it's usually the bass and sometimes kick drum used cleverly in a mix to give off the illusion of the guitar tone being more complex.
@@jordanfrancis1074 fr
You record this with your phone from across the room?
The solo sounds a lot better without the rhythm and drums tbh
no
Man Bleed without drums and bass sounds like shit.
The lack of mids and bass is disgusting. Isolated guitar tracks always sound like utter shit
that's the point? Its meant to sound good as a whole in the context of the full mix, not isolated.
W.T.Shit? It just noise
What utter crap.
I don't mean technically. He clearly has very good technique. It just sounds crap. At least this doesn't have the vocals on it.
@@peraon-rs That's how a guitar sounds within a mix. If you give it a fuller sound, it will mudify the track.
Ricardo Stevens that’s how metal works. You’ll never replicate the tones of your favourite songs just with a guitar. A lot of it is the bass, and how the drums and vocals fill out every other frequency to give it a full sound.
haha Ricardo you loser
4:48
5:38
4:49
4:50
1:11