The Secret Gay Language
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Sexual Offences Act: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_...
Polari: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polari
UK Gay Rights Timeline: www.theweek.co.uk/87213/a-tim...
Polari’s Hidden History: www.liverpoolmuseums.org.uk/s...
The Queer Code: blog.yorksj.ac.uk/englishlit/...
What Is Polari?: www.lancaster.ac.uk/staff/bak...
Polari Vocabulary: menrus.co.uk/men-content/voca...
How To Spell Zhuzh: www.quickanddirtytips.com/art...
Understanding Drag: transequality.org/issues/reso...
Drag On OED: www.oed.com/view/Entry/57406#...
Happy Pride! 🏳🌈
fuck pride
γαμω το pride πουστι
Happy pride to you also
@@yasin_GD yes i am proud greek what are you? proud gay 😂😂
Like theatre & circus performers created Polari, American musicians particularly black ones, created their own language called "Jive".
Interestingly, Swardspeak here in the Philippines is a very similar phenomenon (minus homosexual activity being illegal) but it changes even faster, and draws more on pop culture depending on the decade. We even have non-LGBTQI+ people using some words that evolved from this gay slang; it also adopted the word "drag" and made into the easy-to-figure out "dragá". Sometimes, it even morphs into "dragelya" for added humour or camp.
thats really dope :3
Same sex marrage is still illegal in the Phillipines and homosexual rights, protections and public opinion in the country are NOT very high or very secure. The need for a queer language in the nation is unfortunatley still there until these things change.
I thought "dragona" was also a thing at one point. Whenever I hear the word I imagine a drag queen in a dragon costume spitting fire.
Celebrity-based ones:
Julanis Morisette: rain (from Tagalog "ulán")
Tom Jones: hungry (Tagalog, "gutóm")
Haggardo Versoza: haggard (Filipino actor Gardo Versoza)
People, places, objects:
Pagoda Cold Wave Lotion: tired (Tagalog "pagód"; a hairstyling product)
Pamintá: straight-acting or closeted gay ("pa-men"; literally "pepper")
Thundercats/Thunders: elderly (Tagalog "matandâ")
Malaysia: I dunno (short for "Walâ sa malay ko", "Not in my consciousness")
Crayola: to cry (based on the English)
Japanese-inspired:
Nomi: drink (based on Japanese; also on "inóm", to drink)
Anetchiwa: what (Tagalog "anó")
Antokyo: sleepy (Tagalog "antók")
Akechiwa: me, I (Tagalog "akó")
Lesbianism was not illegal in England. When the law against homosexuality was written, Queen Victoria did not believe women would “do things like that.”
🤔
Women: [love each other]
Queen Elizabeth: sounds fake don’t believe it
I heard "zhuzh" all my life, but I never knew it was part of the gay community. (A lot of the women in my family growing up were hairdressers.)
As a Bisexual, I understood about like half of the polari sentence
ba dum tsssss
Ah yes, my native tongue.
Why are U gay
Mine too thats crazy
There.s a similar language in South Africa called Gayle. Was used exclusively by the LGBT+ community. One can still hear some people using it, younger LGBT+ people use it less though. Again, it came about to make sure members of the community could communicate without incriminating themselves.
In Brazil too exist a secret lenguange is pajubá use the mix words to portuguese languege and african words
In Turkey too. It's called lubunca.
Interesting phenomenon! I think the official term is "sociolect", and many languages have one or two among their social outcasts. That story sounds similar to "Rotwelsch" and "Jenisch", which are German sociolects and also were influenced by Romanes, Yiddish and Criminals cants (but had no influence on German Gay culture, as far as I know).
In Hong Kong (a former British colony), I used to hear people describing feminine men as "cam". Little did I know it's actually a Polari word "camp" with bad pronunciation.
My mother uses the word "Zhoozh" and she isn't English and she is also a homophobe. I wonder how she even learned that word.
Your mom is based
@@UTTPOfficerBennienah
@@UTTPOfficerBennie based? based on what!?
@@zeeveestudios homophobia which is based
@@UTTPOfficerBennie but what is it based on?
I'm "about 60 years old" and I remember knowing of and even seeing "Punch and Judy" puppet shows in the US when I was a child. I even remember my mother telling me that they glorified domestic violence.
I'm really glad that more and more countries have come far enough for people to be themselves, and to see the decline of the use of secret languages like Polari, despite their linguistic intrigues.
In my country Brazil the secret lenguange is pajubá derivading by mix the portuguesse words and african words.
As a French, I never heard of Punch & Judy, but here we have Guignol, I suppose it's very similar.
Brazil has a similar phenomena with the pajubá dialect, used only by queer people, it has its own words, spelling, pronunciation, grammar, differently gendered words, and different from standard portuguese it conjugates using the feminine as the neutral form instead of the masculine which is standard in romance languages.
someone speaking fully in pajubá is really hard to understand for standard speakers, which is on purpose, since it was made to avoid censors, cops and the military, during times where it was common to circumvent the laws prohibiting lgbt people during our military dictatorships.
That’s awesome! Maybe there should be a dialect of English neopronouns/gender nonconforming language is extremely prevelant.
@@curslingi think it's already happening, it's just less notable than an actual secret language.
Já tentei ver de aprender, e não é tão difícil se você tiver uma boa fonética, mas as novas comunidades nem falam mais esse dialeto, é bem chato
@@cursling Neutral pronouns that aren't as dehumanising as "it" and "that". 🤔 It's a tough one and people have tried before.
@@brianedwards7142 I mean some people are fine with using "it". Depends on the person
its french
the secretly gay language is french
This video will weed out all the bigots that may have been subscribed
Not necessarily, bigots come from all backgrounds and groups. I dont see why gay bigots would unsubscribe because of this video, quite the opposite.
@@nosmokejazwinski6297 Your deliberate attempt to reframe the current context into something it isn't is a statement on behalf of your own passive-aggression, but that's okay. It has nothing to do with me or the original comment.
@@danielkaiser8971 your deliberate attempt to reframe the context of my comment into something it isn’t is a statement on behalf of your own passive aggression, but That’s okay. It has nothing to do with me or my comment.
Don’t project your own way of thinking on others, rather try to understand what they are actually saying and not what you want them to be saying.
@@nosmokejazwinski6297 Thank you for echoing my words, since you have none of your own.
@@danielkaiser8971 thank you for proving my point by making your passive aggression too obvious and continuing to project it onto me
Fun Fact, Polari is far from the only example of a Cant used specifically by Gay people, There's a good Otherwords video about the topic in general (ua-cam.com/video/UjqKcvu3Ycs/v-deo.html), but I'd like to specifically bring attention to the Gay Lingo of the Philippines, Also known as Swardspeak, Which is still used today and spoken by a friend of mine, Which has some pretty interesting etymologies of words involving borrowing from various different languages, For example apparently the phrase "New Guys" can mean "Things", Because the original Filipino word "Bagay" eventually morphed into "Bagong Guys", With "Bagong" being Filipino for "New", And then I guess that was translated to English as "New Guys".
The term for this type of language (mostly slang turned into full language) is an argot.
Great video, I know you focused on Polari and British English but it’d be cool if you’d do a follow up on American (specifically Black and Brown) contributions to the lexicon of “gay words”. Shade, beat (as in makeup), tea, snatched, kiki… those are just a few words of the top of my head that come out of black and brown gay communities in the US that have jumped to being understood in the broader culture. And also how white gays have scooped up words and terminology from Black and Brown members of the community and “mainstreamed” them. Not a criticism but it’s important to document!
"Butch" now is often used to say 'masculine' in reference to queer people more recently [i.e butch lesbians]
Butch lesbian reporting for duty🫡
Yeah, butch and femme have become aesthetic terms (and of course, all the variations like soft butch, high femme, and futch).
As alluded to by Patrick , homosexuality wasn't officially legalised in Scotland until 1981 - the year I turned 25.
Thank you for highlighting this fact. I was going to mention it at the start of the video but felt it derailed the video from the main topic too soon. So I appreciate you saying it here.
And now Scotland has one of the strongest LGBT defense records in the world, to the point of telling England's transphobic public opinion to go fuck itself.
You just love a happy ending.
It wasn't until 1990 in Jersey.
With same sex marriage since 2018.
Maybe it already exists but can you make a video about why Z is pronounced zed in the UK/other English speaking countries but zee in the US?
Name Explain already did a video on that. :)
@@elinakangas571 cool, I'll have to look for it :-) I've always been curious about it
There's a secret gay language in Greece, it's called kaliarda (καλιαρτνά) and funnily enough it's also influenced by Romani.
Missed opportunity for etymology- "drag" surely must have a connection with the Dutch "dragen", meaning "to wear". For example "Ik draag kleren" means "I wear clothes". The mnemonic I use to remember the verb is to think of drag in the sense discussed in this video.
HAPPY PRIDE , HON ! Thank you for speaking about Homosexuality in such an educational and compassionate way!
In Brazil we have Pajubá, with lots of words coming from African and Brazilian Indigenous languages!!!
In a similar case to the US, Brazilian queer culture came mostly from afro-american communities. They were more accepting of gender non-conforming people because they would fuse the European imposed christianity with their original beliefs.
Sending gay hugs from Brazil!
Ah, the Swedish language, of course.
lmeow
As a butch lesbian and a long time viewer, I’m mega stoked to see this on your channel:)
Happy pride from “Ohio”, Patrick!!!
I remember, when I was in the Army 40 years ago, lesbian friends in my unit, used the word "family", when referring to lesbians. For instance, they might ask a female, if they were "family", if they weren't sure, if she was a lesbian or at least cool with it. Back then, homosexuaity was technically against the rules but the rule was seldomly enforced. In the seldom case, that it was enforced, it was used to get rid of a problem soldier, that had other issues that were more difficult to prove or as part of several different charges, rather than a stand alone charge. Even so, it wasn't okay to be too obvious about it, because promotions & career success was based on what supervisors thought, so it didn't pay for a soldier to totally thumb their nose at the rules, even if eventually, everyone knew who was gay, since units were pretty close knit.
Did you ever know or hear of the term "family" used in that context?
@@sparky6086 Wow that’s super interesting! I had no idea of that term! Thanks for sharing that with me. It’s unsurprising though cuz those of us in LGBT community will always find ways to subvert unjust rules. I’m sure you were highly valued and appreciated as their friend, too.
Also thank you for your service:)
Edit: Cute doggo!
I've gotten in trouble for coming out to some people at play practice. Unfortunately, theater isn't as welcoming as it may seem.
name explain video in feed 💪💪💪
This is a really awesome video! With more and more of the LGBT younger population around the english-speaking world becoming more comfortable with their identity, it's very important to share the history of the movements that allowed them the legal right to exist.
The title sounds like a history channel at 2 am thing
hello I'm Julian and this is my friend Sandy! Classic humour!
Realising Father Christmas lives on the North Pole and therefore native Polari speaker 😳
Thanks for educating me about a part of queer history I didn't know existed in any kind of structured way ❤💛💚💙💜
I just heard "zed" more times in the past 5 seconds than I have in my entire life 😂
then you haven't played league of legends or killing floor much or at all. nice 😅
Gayle or moffietaal in South Africa emerged similarly but is still popular today.
Fun little fact probably not mentioned here - Polari of also a messaging/IRC app for Linux.
I love the idea of a secret gay language thank you Mr. Explain
Thanks!
0:37 Sir Elton John and Sir Ian McKellan
This video is so lovely 🥰
Yes the 1967 act didn't decriminalise sex between women because it was never illegal.
Yeah sure buddy
Sideline: in the Netherlands Punch and Judy are called Jan Klaassen and Katrijn
Happy pride everyone!
I think it's called Danish
What is cant?
You tend to be careful who you talk to when saying what you mean gets you beat to death!
Take that to heart, because it's coming back faster than you fuckin' think!
I wonder if Shelta had any influence on Polari, I believe the Irish Travellers had a lot of contact with Romani and Circus People, So it certainly doesn't seem that far-fetched.
4:46 I can tell you they have Dutch names: Jan Klaassen & Katrijn. So there's that.
"NAFF" originally from "Not Available For F**king" 🤣
thanks for telling me how to spell zhuzh
I've never heard "cant" pronounced to rhyme with "aunt" rather than with "ant". Shouldn't [IMHO] be pronounced the same as "can't" - maybe regional, but Collins English dictionary concurs.
Well, in British English, "can't" rhymes with "aunt" and American English it rhymes with "ant". IDK
Southern English pronounces can't that way too.
@@outofideas42Can’t (with an apostrophe) rhymes with (the British pronunciation of) “aunt”, but cant (the word for language) rhymes with “ant” (the animal).
@@DrWhoFanJ not in southern England. Source: I live there
@@outofideas42 I’m in Southern England too. Cant and can’t are two different words, pronounced with a different vowel sound.
Oh wow i expected the comments to be wwwaaayyy worse. Banger!!
It's already way worse.
The language community is the most nicest community I ever met.
"Drag initially in Polari just meant clothing"... I wonder if glad rags was originally glad drags.
Probably the other way around. "Drag" seems like it could be a shortening of "glad rags".
in the 80s, we (US gay guys) would talk about someone being in 'preppy drag' or 'business drag' or 'cop drag', so the basic clothing meaning stuck around for a while.
Isnt it called french?
The best language
Hi,
00:20, the reason it only decriminalised sex between men and not between women, was because sex between women was never illegal (in UK).
Gay language (:3)
Hey, I speak that.
FINALLY. I can speak gay!
Wonderful video! It's amazing to learn the intricacies of the way our forbears had to communicate before the advent of private messaging brought about by the internet era. Definitely have an even higher respect now for those in the LGBTQ community who fought to get us to where we are today. 🏳🌈
In the Philippines there’s two gay language and That is ilocano And Bisaya
Like theatre & circus performers created Polari, American musicians particularly black ones, created their own language called "Jive".
A few white folks are fluent in Jive. Barbara Billingsly is a notable example.
3:13 Chandler Bing?
What’s Zed
The last letter of the alphabet.
FYI
You might know PadThai as food, but in rainbow meaning in Thai language, Pad Thai also means a trans woman who laid on bed with Trans Woman
I found this so dom interesting. I want somorrah these videos!
PBS Otherwords did a great video about this.
Julian and Sandy - the introduction many had to Polari on _Round the Horne_ in the second half of the '60s.
We were all avid listeners, gay or otherwise, and started to use Polari at school.
Camp means derivative, and is connected with camp girls, camp boys,
Camp means something that is funny and exaggerated
what, you mean french? lmao
does this also explain the weird "comic book style names" gay people give themselves?
No, what you're talking about is probably based on humor and the strong determined message that gay people will never go back into the metaphorical closet. There is a particular drag queen in my area whose name is "Safonda Peters", which sounds like "so fond of peters (slang for male genitalia)".Another example might be, "Anita Mann" ("I need a man").
6:18 if there’s anything to be learned from 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis, which the US Supreme Court _just_ decided earlier today.
it's swedish
❤
did they just forget about danish or what?
*MR. EXPLAIN EXPLAIN YOURSELF! WHY IS THE YELLOW SO YELLOW! WHY IS THE RED SO RED!*
next video, me NameExplain outing myself ^^ just kidding 🤣🤪🏳️🌈
Nooo, don't tell the straights about our gay language. :( All jokes aside, I thought this video was going to be about current day gay slang, but this is even better.
Secret 2nd language of China.
French
Thank you for this video. 🥹🏳️🌈
Greek Language
Happy pride month y'll 🌈✨🏳️🌈
Is there a secret lesbian language? I could use one.
Same. But even if I knew it, I'd still be too shy to make a move and too clueless to pick up on someone else's :)
You just commented on a video about one
Many years ago I met a lesbian and we became friends after we exchanged numbers (before email existed). She handed me a pre-printed card she normally gave to women, it said, "Lez be friends!" I also got along well with her friends and they made me an honorary lesbian for a while. Those who needed to be seen with a man to hide their lesbianism referred to me as their "beard". All of us gay men and women were "friends of Dorothy" (reference to Dorothy Gale, the character played by Judy Garland in The Wizard of Oz). We had all kinds of code words back then.
i've heard Butch used in the USA as a kind of insult for manly lesbians
It's not an insult! It's a term of endearment! It's also the literal term for manly lesbians, they use it for themselves
I wonder if Polaroid has a connection. It has the same symbolisms.
so gay
much secret
Sodom: 😨🔥
sodom burned not because of gay people but because they violated the rules of hospitality.
@@blank_3768 Both The Bible and The Quran confirm that Sodom has committed homosexuality, and both scriptures confirm that It's forbidden.
Some passages refer to the topic:
[Jude 1:7] (As Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.) [KJV]
[Quran 27:54-56] (And [mention] Lot, when he said to his people, "Do you commit immorality while you are seeing? Do you indeed approach men with desire instead of women? Rather, you are a people behaving ignorantly." But the answer of his people was not except that they said, "Expel the family of Lot from your city. Indeed, they are people who keep themselves pure.") [Saheeh International]
Don't be ignorant, Homosexuality has been through history one of the worst sins, and only a few nations had the effrontery to commit it as it wasn't that famous, That's why the scriptures didn't talk about it that much, because no one (except the people of the 21st century) imagined that happening. but at the same time, God informed us of the story of Sodom to show how bad that sin is.
@@Lion_of_TruthGo outside 😂
I can't believe name explained have gone WOKE😢😢😢😢😢😢
This is a joke
It even rhymes
The 'condition' of homosexuality was never illegal.
It was the doing of certain things that was illegal.
(I could never understand why.)
Because it’s far easier to prove that someone was actively doing an action than it is to prove they believe a certain thing.
@@DrWhoFanJ You misunderstand me.
I could never understand why the actions were illegal.
@@lah50tac Is it a misunderstanding if you phrased your original comment ambiguously? 🤔
@@lah50tacyou don’t understand why a man putting his dick into another man’s sh**thole was considered illegal?
@@DrWhoFanJ What's ambiguous about:
"It was the doing of certain things that was illegal.
(I could never understand why.)"?
Saying that "Homosexuality was illegal' is false and misleading.
I'm excited for the moving front of social liberation to progress to the point where it decriminalizes people that love, grow, and own certain plants and fungi. Illimitable millions have been incarcerated where they have been perpetually brutalized, humiliated, and traumatized, having their entire lives destroyed all for the offense of needing or requiring, or adoring the positive affects of certain natural chemicals found in what would be rather inocuous plants and fungi. To this day (not merely in the 1960's) millions of human beings are locked up in steel cages for the harmless lifestyle they often times are not even afforded the option to "choose," given that medical necessity or finanical imperatives dictate their needs that are defined by centralized authoritarian Statists as "illegal." That would be a truly "Liberal" and "Progressive" society when clearly and obviously the most oppressed among us have the same rights as those that now have open parades.
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why? are you scared of gay people?
Ooo, look at the big, strong, snowflake. Scared of the gays.
cry harder
@@rheiagreenland4714 You are pathetic. Not me who should cry, but you!
Great, bro!
being "proud" of one's sexual habits is just stupid.
when for the last thousand years you where told to be ashamed for it, no it isn’t stupid. it’s also not just a sexual habit, that’s reductive. habits are chosen you don’t choose to be gay
Well when people stop trying to criminalize us we'll stop shoving it in people's faces. But so long as homophobia exists we don't really have the option of staying quiet, lest we die in the dark.
and yet straight people have been wearing wedding rings just to point out their sexual habits for centuries. They seem to be pretty proud of it.
@@otsoko66 wedding rings have nothing to do with pride. It is a sign of commitment to your spouse.
Queerness and pride is about far more than the sexuality aspect.
And no, it is not stupid to be proud of one's community for enduring and continuing to fight for a more accepting and loving world. We are proud of the unique facets each and every one of us brings to the face of humanity.
To say that pride is stupid would be akin to telling an artist or a poet they can't be proud of their work, or anyone proud of living a life that fits them, and telling people who face and endure horrible things in the world can't be proud of that.
thank god its the end of june...
sick of seeing that flag.
Like what you want, get over yourself
cope harder
i’m sorry you’re afraid of rainbows
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Nice satire!
June comes every year. Maybe you should spend the entire month hiding in the closet. Oh wait... 🤣🤣🤣
im homophobic
🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
Hi homophobic, I'm a transgender gay woman.
that’s sad, hopefully you will mature with age
Thanks for outing yourself. Now we know to ignore your comments, starting now.
Man...that sounds sad as fuck. Couldn't be me.
I hate to tell you there's no leather zed in the english alphabet
Not a leather, but a letter: Z
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Good. Asshats like you aren't welcome outside of the Trump rally.
You don’t follow people on UA-cam, you nob.
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