ESPN NFL LIVE | Schefter STUNNED, Atlanta Falcons Could Have MAJOR Controversy With Penix, Cousins
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- ESPN NFL LIVE | Schefter STUNNED, Atlanta Falcons Could Have MAJOR Controversy With Penix, Cousins
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They had to get a good future QB when they could. They passed on Fields and with Kirk they know chances of getting a top tier QB again are slim. There's no controversy, it's Kirks job to lose not Penix's to win
That's fair!
What the heck are you taking about! No elite weapons! Are you living in the same world everyone else is? He had two premier OT in Darrisaw & O’Neill for the past 3 years. He had Dalvin Cook who for several years was considered a top 5 RB. He had Diggs & Thielen and then Thielan & JJ, and then JJ & Addison. In case you don’t remember with the exception of an injury plagued 2019 season, AT had almost 70 receptions in 6 out of the final 7 years with the Vikings and this past season he had 103 receptions & 1014 yards with Carolina. KC also had a top TE in Kyle Rudolph or TJ for most of his tenure.
He played great with those weapons. I said consistently having weapons and with a good coach. One of his years with a good weapon was with a bad defensive coach.
Uhhh....also a bottom 5 defensive, a bottom 3 inside oline and a center that got forklifted into the pocket passing cousins.
Lol- if Kirk had what dak had/ has - lol.
Fun fact :
Cousins passer rating without dalvin cook = 95
without = 105.
Ask any receiver who has played with kirk. His game is to distribute the ball to all. KOCs mistake as a 1st time head coach was forcing the ball to JJ. If Kirk stayed in minny , this would've been year jj got his 2k but naturally. Finally a decent oline with darrishaw and O'Neil healthy at same time.
Flores stayed. The vikings do everything backwards. Kirk wasn't a polished top 10 qb when he first came to minny . After alot of punishment, he is now.
Really interested to see how all this shakes out .My only hedge is the achillies and will it be 100%.
Well said!
First time watching this channel....probably gonna be the last....the glaring love for Kirk, a QB that has done nothing but pad his stats and pockets is beyond belief...Kirk's first your with us was a NFC championship team..Kirk has had awesome teams around him...but his problem is he wants to play statue of liberty ball....he wants to stand in 1 stop and deliver the ball....I hate to break it to you..THAT NFL IS GONE....
@@Gnothe1 hate to break it 2 you and already mentioned this but yes once upon a time ago even I called Kirk " happy feet" cuz but you get better especially, in spite of the toxic Mike zimm, from the year before KOC came to town under the first time he had an oc back 2 back years under kubiak ( clint).
That was his com8ng out year as a team leader and a top 10 QB . He's gotten percentages better every year and it's hard to believe that alot of people don't see it.
We'll see- I guess everybody is where they're supposed to be .
I been saying since the pick. Falcons are living rent free in your heads 😂😂😂😂
I’m cheering for the Falcons. What are you talking about?
Yea what is Adam S talking about? That first sentence he made cracked me up. If Pennix lights it up. Lights it up where? Preseason? Okay good, I hope so.
Agree with you, unless Kirk is just beyond horrible, like 6 INTs amd 2 TD in 2 games, then you start to talk about bringing in Pennix.
YES!!! Let Pennix sit for at least a year. Good or bad. Let him be a sponge to Cousins bring a professional.
To piggyback on your last point which I said in a comment earlier, it’s takes time!!! Like relax. Haha same with Caleb. Soo many people expect these QBs to come flying our day 1.
People are very confused about how quick QBs can hit the ground running. And they under estimate how much confidence and mastery a QB like Cousins has. They think if you’re not Mahomes then any other rookie is worth the shot. And it’s just not true.
@@JWLSports people honesty think the NFL is like Madden and every player has a certain attribute rating hahahaha so why can’t they be good, I’ve done it on madden babaha
I think the falcons only made this move because they fear the nfl will take there first round pick next year for that tampering charge on recruiting Kirk to Atlanta!
Pretty interesting theory!
Start the best performing player. The object is to win games and put the best players on the field. Likely Cousins starts given his experience and talent. But if Penix is significantly better, not even or maybe, but truly better then you need to play him. I really don't get why people are conflicted. Last year Miles Sanders got paid a lot of money to move from Philly after a career year. He sucked. They played Chubba. Were there people melting down? Was anybody really saying how could you play Hubbard when you gave Sanders all this money? Nope.
No , Kirk starting no matter what…. The drama is only what the national media is doing , Kirk is about to compete and play
Adam is trying to create the drama 😂😂😂😂
Sounds about right!
Look at what the Panthers gave up to get Bryce. Look at what the 49ers gave up to get Trey Lance. The Jets for Zach Wilson. You can set your franchise back years like we did also by not having a succession plan at the most important position in the game. We won't end up like the Jets who wasted an entire season after the first drive with Aaron Rogers. We have a starter and a back up. The rest of the pieces are easy to fill when your franchise is set up to have to pay your quarterback $300,000,000 as the pay keeps going up.
Yeah but if those QBs ended up as good picks then those franchises become instant contenders
People are still telling us about Kirks contract numbers and so called qb controversy. The offseason is hell...stories are dry and so are these desperate takes.
Haha it's the NFL offseason!
Listening to your argument for Cousins it makes even more sense to draft Penix!
How so?
@@JWLSports if you are saying Cousins makes the falcons a playoff team and or possible contender, their draft position is at the back half of the first Rd. Given the ramifications of the tampering you probably are going to lose a high draft pick or picks. So when are you going to pick high enough to get an elite QB prospect again?
Vikings was the first time he had the same offense with KOC two years in a row!
Exactly!
The problem with Atlanta is, they took a flawed method from Green Bay that did not produce Super Bowls. Green Bay was screaming to get Aaron Rodgers playmakers instead they did other stuff and one of those other stuff was getting quarterback. This method did work, however, to keep them competitive, but ultimately lose in the first or second round of playoffs.
It’s a great point. Because what if instead of drafting Love they got another big player, or traded back and got even more pieces. Not hard to imagine the Packers would have been better.
Sir. He had a great receiver. He had all that.
Not consistently with great coaches over extended periods. And when he did he balled out.
I have a source inside the Falcons building and he told me Kirk melted down that draft weekend.
lol oh yeah?
My source says Pennix is 6 years away from starting.
Unless penix just balls out in preseason and the offseason or Kirk looks like garbage sit penix it seems to help then next season give him a chance if he really really looks bad pull him you will have a insurance policy in Kirk unless Kirk is bad it’s a good situation in my opinion at least your trying to make sure your good at the position now and future just the gamble of how it all shakes out
Bullshit Kirk Cousins hasn't played in this offense for 3 years. This is a BRAND NEW OFFENSIVE SCHEME, so painting him like he knows this offense and Penix Jr has to learn it, is false. Kirk Cousins has a 2 month head start on Penix Jr, but Penix Jr will probably get the most preseason work at the 1.
Kirk is a seasoned veteran. It’s not a two month head start. It’s more like a 10 year head start.
This is the Kyle Shanahan scheme... he's been in a version of this scheme most of his career.
I got worms.
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Pretty sure they know what the penalty is as the Falcons CEO, Rich McKay, who is the chairma of the NFL Competition Committee so pretty sure he knows something is gonna happen witht the tampering. Maybe they lose a couple of picks and Kirk gets suspended or something. Idk. Both parties at fault. Kirk knew what he was doing to get more money from the Vikings and control. Everybody knows not to tamper. Just depends if you don't get caught.
Kirk isn’t getting suspended.
I wish one of these UA-cam gurus would answer something thats bothered me a long time: why are teams obliged to play their starting QB every snap?
You mean in the middle of a game?
@@JWLSports Sure. Even in Garbage Time, teams don't sit their starters.
They typically do if the game is out of hand. But you’re right. It’s not super common. And they don’t do it in the middle of games because each qb has his own report, cadence, flow, chemistry, etc. It will throw off the offense way more than it can help.
He never had great offensive minds like shanahan or McVay, hell he had both in Washington, come on man, know what you're talking about, truth is everywhere kirk has been, they were looking for his replacement, the ultimate bridge qb, same here, no different
Dude, he never had great coach coaches in their prime with with great weapons. That’s a fact. He had like a season and a half with great weapons and a great coach in Minnesota. Know what you’re talking about
huh? Dude wasn't even the starter in DC, RG3 was. Owner was in love with RG3. Minnesota had Mutiple coaches and coordinators, turnstile O lines, in-and-out running game and piss poor defenses. I guess having one great receiver makes up for all that especially since they won games anyway when that receiver was hurt.
Respectfully, the Falcons, “invested”, a guaranteed $100 million dollars in a 35-year old veteran quarterback who’s coming off of an Achilles injury. Rather than asking whether or not he’ll start, why isn’t anybody asking if he’ll even be able to play? If he can’t, then it’s a good thing that the Falcons hedged their bet with a young, capable, but inexperienced back-up.
He’ll be able to play. No reason to not expect a full recovery. .
This is a good problem for falcons. Cousins is going to have to play his ass off to remain on the field.
LOL riiiight
I mean Cousins always does
Kirk has guaranteed big money for the next 2 years.. Do the Jordan Love and let him sit and develop for 2 years.
lol you mean jordan love.
@@denomac1740 yes I absolutely did.. hadn't had my coffee yet lmao
Problem is Penix is already older.
Why act like drama is a bad thing that in this business, He's way better than the last two Qbs so miss me with the drama BS
Who?
Let's replace the word drama with the word competition..last I checked, competition served to improve the performance of all involved.
Who takes a rookie at number 8 and ask him to hold a clipboard??
The chiefs.
Literally, every team team in the NFL before they started doing rookie contracts.
Penix needs to sit until Kirk’s contract is up. You don’t pay what you’re paying for a back up. Love sat for 4 years behind Rodgers. Penix needs to do the same. Period. It was a boneheaded move drafting him when they did. He’s not that good in the first place. But oh well. He still needs to sit
That's a lot of years to sit! Pennix is already older remember
It is highly unlikely that Michael Penix will 'light it up' as Adam Shefter suggests might occur. Nonetheless, there is a large support group of Black NFL players and coaches and Black commentators who are hoping for another outstanding Black QB. I am uncertain why this is the case, because 75% of the NFL are Black athletes, but the Black QB is to the NFL what Moby Dick is to Captain Ahab. The bottom line is that Kirk Cousins is a 12 year, proven top 10 QB. Penix has a long, long way to go before anyone can say that about him. Is there a pathway for Atlanta to screw up their Kirk Cousins signing. Absolutely, continue to hype up the play of Penix and create a QB controversy when none should exist.
Penix will def light it up you gone see preseason because he might get a few snaps with the 1’s or some of the 1’s. But regardless he will sit at least one year before Cousins is at risk for starter job. 2 bd yr if Kirk just losing or bombing they will put Penix in.
Yeah I would be shocked if Penix passes Cousins this season