Will Turkish objections stop Finland and Sweden joining NATO? | DW News
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- Sweden and Finland have formalized their NATO applications. Despite previous combative rhetoric from the Kremlin, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said the Nordic countries joining the western military alliance would make no difference. However, Turkey has said it will block the move. Interview with Ian Bond, Director of Foreign Policy at the 'Centre for European Reform' think-tank in the UK.
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A previous headline and a question in the video incorrectly suggest that Norway wants to join NATO. Norway has been a founding member of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. We apologize for the mistake.
As a journalist; yes the opportunity to publish every mistake for all the world to see is a part of the job. Been there, done it. Then just take the flak, apologise and move on. Errare humanum est. ;-)
@@RuniDjurhuusOr the other way around. Then, Canada goes into manic moose mode.
Similar to Finland and Sweden, it would be great if Russia could apply and join NATO to maximize its southern security and thus bring complete peace in Europe and Asia:--
It would be a historic moment.
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Not "has been" a founding member ... is
And your mistake caused Russia to invade Ukraine?
Because of the conflict in Eastern Europe, I think Norway wants to emphasize the importance of its membership in NATO and therefore wants to join a second time.
Astutely observed 😄
They are very well defended.
Norway and Iceland are both ready for quite a lot, strong allies.
Double gold membership gets Norway a 10% discount for all NATO purchases.
@@johnnytawon780 it's already got two NATO states on border.
Ah yes, my favourite non-NATO country in Scandinavia, Norway.
Norway is a Nato country. The current secretary general of Nato Jens Stoltenberg used to be the prime minister of Norway.
@@peterpaldor5866 he is now president of their central bank ig.
Let's not forget about Norway. Everyone matters, even the little ones.
@@peterpaldor5866 DW messed up the video title.
😂
Well this is bad. Who on your UA-cam team confused Sweden with Norway? It looks incredibly incompetent.
Sweden? What's that? Nor way heard.
I do agree, but mistakes happens and there's a chance that the video includes Norway's current NATO sec gen and someone got confused.
It's not just the UA-cam team the anchor says Finland and Norway himself around the 40s to 50s mark
Mistakes happen. Hopefully not often when editors and publishing/broadcast is involved, but occasionally one slips through.
Best to accept that human error is human and move on.
UK wants to rejoin Nato.
Norway??? Norway has been a member since day 1. Lol
No way
Sorry
@@user-pr5sc8se7t apology accepted, that was beautiful
Norway ? Norway is already a member
For sure...
No it isn't. Shh!
Yoooo, you need to change the title for the video
Sweden, not Norway!
lol embarrassing
Norway is already a member of NATO. It’s about Sweden and Finland joining NATO! What Erdogan wants at all costs is the strengthen his own position, him and Putin have a lot in common in that respect.
Nato should come up with a mecanism on how to cancel a member's membership. Nato should get a rid of Turkey because Erdogan is not into democracy and values.
It's sad to see that he only thinks about his self and not about the hole alliance.. Even if there are some points to discuss that cut be done intern and not to show everyone 'look Nato is not always 100% on board I'm turkey and I'm important... yeah can you see it.. look look...'
that's how I see it and that's just like a 13 year old child isch BS
'Pukin' is helping Turkey with specific technologies, specifically, nuclear power development. So, now, there is a 'fly in the ointment', if you catch my drift......
No, they aren’t, they in process, hope sooner 💪
The EU and NATO allways are countries that specialize in goin to war with other countries.from Iraq war to Tunisia war and every war in the world all have EU to war
Just a little problem with the title. Seriously, quality of reporting is of utmost importance in order to combat dissinformation.
Oh dear. Lol. Yeah that's a funny one.
It would be permissible if this was an Asian news network, but it's literally from Germany...
As if turkey was really going to risk pissing off the alliance even more than they already have
Dw’s reporting is getting bad
In a documentary about modi they made factual errors like when the opposition party first came to power
I have also noticed many spelling mistakes in titles
I don’t really see how this title is disinformation? The title is literally one of the key questions of the entire video.Although yes the answer is pretty definitive that the answer is yes. We’ve just got to hope that any concessions for Turkey will not be damning in the long run that we end up having to fight and that this agreement we do with them, whatever it will be, will allow them to be willing to say yes to Finland and Sweden joining NATO.
Big error: Norway? Norway is already in NATO and one of the founders (maybe meant Sweden ;D)
Never mind holding the role of current Nato's leadership.
As somone from "Norway", I look forward to cooperate with our neighbours
It’s Chicken now, not Turkey. Show respect!
After we all will...
After all these years, finally you(!) are under our(!) control...
@@kylejohnson6070 I vote we now call the country Roast Beef..
@@johannlindstrom5948 Chickens better…lol
Norway? DW, did not expect you to make such an embarrassing mistake in your headline. You should amend or take down the video.
Second time in past few weeks DW mistakenly writes Norway/Oslo instead of Sweden ... wth xD
Norway is flyover country on the way to Sweden
They just did not get any new reports or memos about the political changes since period between 1814 to 1905 - when they actually were the 'same country' per say. At least had same king and same foreign policy. I'd say someone is using stone age routing to have so much lag.
The general secretary of NATO is Jens Stolberg, a Norwegian. I don’t think that Norway needs to apply for a membership for a second time.
Norway already in nato.we speak about Finland and sweden
@@tinaforyou5618 It's a reference to the title of the video.
Check your title darlin
Maybe you could change the NATO rules so, that a member CAN challenge the applicant country's right to join the union, BUT at the same time, the challenger's own membership would come under re-evaluation as well. That would limit this kind of ridiculous blackmailing from countries with no honor and whom are used to giving cheap punches.
Thats a great idea
This rule was designed exactly so that the US could block anyone they did not want joining
Ridiculous, turkey is the second largest army in Nato just after USA.
🤣🤣🤣 do you mean change the rules to suit whoever has convinced the sheeple...bet you've had all your jabs haven't you you little fascist
@@cannabisoutlawz yeah really democratic hahaha
What a time to be Norwegian!
NO WAY the title of this news is so accurate😅
Norway???
The title of the video is wrong- Finland and Sweden
also in the video at 0:45
Please correct your video/title, Norway is a founding member of NATO
Finland and Sweden*
Haha!
"Its there somewhere"
DW, what's the matter with you guys? This is a German News Company, and you make such a massive typo in a headline? Good luck competing with the BBC.
Isn’t Norway already in NATO? I think the title is meant to say Sweden?
Video title says Norway instead of Sweden :) i know they are somewhat similar countries but they are still separate countries :)
They just did not get any new reports or memos about the political changes since period between 1814 to 1905 - when they actually were the 'same country' per say. At least had same king and same foreign policy. I'd say someone is using stone age routing to have so much lag.
We tried to keep them a while, after losing Finland. It never really worked out. The union dissolved 1905, much to their satisfaction. Maybe we should try Denmark next, that always works out. 🇸🇪
Turkey has not said it will stop the joining of these countries to NATO, but they want to talk about the PKK harboring in these countries. I'm 100% sure these issues will be solved in the NATO meetings.
why not create a new defence alliance: ATON, TONA, ONAT or something- reuse the NATO documentation etc except the rules for joining.
Finland and Sweden applying to join wouldn't have even been discussed if Putin hadn't invaded Ukraine. There are some reasons not to rush this.However, Sweden, Finland and the UK have signed a mutual defence agreement on 11th May 2022 in case any of them are attacked. In practice that would mean the Joint Expeditionary Force, a coalition led by the UK with Denmark, Norway, Finland, Sweden,Estonia, Iceland, Latvia, Lithuania and the Netherlands. It was set up in 2014 (when Russia invaded Ukraine, annexing Crimea) to provide a fast multi disciplinary response capability focussed on northern European defence with like minded countries as members. The last major exercise was at the end of March 2022. All of these countries now use NATO interoperability standards and procedures.
And some people might be surprised by how well armed Finland is, and the huge number of bunkers across the country.
Finland was invaded before by Stalin, and even before that had been annexed by the Russian Empire.
Also, some people forget that Finland is already part of the EU which includes the commitment that *" if an EU country is the victim of armed aggression on its territory, the other EU countries have an obligation to aid and assist it by all the means in their power, in accordance with Article 51 of the United Nations Charter."*
Being part of NATO means that there are more countries, it's not essential but it would be additional valuable insurance (Putin having already shown he will break into other people's houses, kill, and steal).
Chicken needs to be heard. Show respect.
Very well written. Thank you!
But the UK is out of the EU?
Hi from the UK yes that’s right we did and will stand ready to help other NATO members and our friends including Ukraine. We have to stand up against evil dictatorship from the Kremlin and Putin. I believe that no country should be bullied and have the worst war crimes committed against it since the Second World War, for that Putin and the Kremlin and his goons are guilty.
Good idea
Haha, who wrote Norway in the title? I mean even the Swedish flag is on the Thumbnail
It one member says No does that mean NATO can't expand ?
Please Explain
or is that member asking to not be a member of NATO
Norwegian here im loving the title LETS JOIN NATO for the first time ever :3
Nato will use your army to fight in serverals foreign nations like Suria Libia ,Yaman, Irak ...
😂😂😂😂😂
@@dragonballz6695 I think it is hilarious when people don't seem to understand, that Norway, one of the founding members and the current leader of Nato is in fact a member of Nato.
welcome Sweden and Finland from the United Kingdom 🇬🇧
DEAR DW NEWS, Headline is wrong! Norway was a founding member of NATO. You're supposed to say Finland & Sweden!
I think there would be many 'lurking surprises ' on the way
Unanimity rules have to be changed to stop blackmail on this level in the future.
Or at least there have to be election rules -- if you enter NATO as a democracy and twist into an autocratic state, you don't get to stay.
This late milking is cheap, indeed.
That, or simply change Turkey's status to a non-voting member, if it remains a member at all. It has degenerated into an autocratic state which is at odds with NATO membership policies if I recall.
That's ridiculous. NATO is a defense pact. Of course the approval has to be unanimous.
@@jeffmorris5802 it may be changed to a majority vote if this continues. Just a thought.
Norway 🙈
Five hours in and the video is still up without needed correction. Says a lot of the quality of DW. The title at least should be fixed...
When are they going to sign?
😆 😆 😆 Norway again will join? It should be Sweden and Finland not Norway.
Finland 🇫🇮and Sweden🇸🇪 go to Nato to day🤝👍
So, as more members join NATO, more agreements are needed , making it ever-harder to join? Surely that was never intended?
It has been 6 hr since this video was posted. Why is NOR still in the title?
You know that you have mistake in title ? Norway is a member already, did you mean Sweden ? ;)
He wants to see if he can get another superyacht from NATO. He doesn't even want to talk about it so that he can't be asked to justify concerns.
for the god sake cant u guys stop being biased against us {turks}, it has nothing to do with erdo but a lot to do with turkish people whose family relatives were killed by pkk/ypg with (sweden's rockets and money)
we simply as turkish people dont want to defend sweden when they continue to support our enemies its that simple every nation in nato should respect security concerns of eachother since its a defence pact not an economic one... and turkey has %100 working democracy (people elected him and the same people elected opponents of AKP in every single major city just a few years ago) only thing that turkey lacks is LIBERAL democracy and it can not be achieved without time+support from outside but all the western governments do is trying to replace democraticly elected leader with junta (they did it 2 times and tried it many times since turkey joined nato and started to progress its democracy and oh boy they done a lot of damage to our democracy)
It is so weird that people just accuse Turkey because Turkey is concerned about its vital security concerns. And assume it is erdo's decision where none of the Turkish people support this idea of them joining NATO.
I am anti Erdogan and i support fully in this policy.Finand qnd Sweeden is house of terrorism.A cople days before terrorist flag was in their capital.Which make clear to their support on terrorism.Well if they threat to us like that then why we don't let Russian bear to eat Nordics?
The title is wrong! It’s not Finland and Norway. It’s Finland and Sweden.
Good convo
Where are the EU and the US when PYD terrorists and Assad soldiers are firing at NATO soldiers on Turkey's Syrian border? Isn't the Turkish border also a NATO border? Have you heard a single news from the European and American media on this subject?
Finland and Norway? Lol. Always helpful to get the title right.
@Craig SteddyMars be part of Nato soon.
Poor Norway! I don't think they are even aware that they have been kicked out of NATO.
😂😆
It is an error in the title. Norway is a NATO member since 4th of April 1949. Finland and Sweden applied for NATO membership.
😂 Swidden
You're like the 7th person in the comments to say that.
I agree that nato members shouldn’t support terrorist groups if they want to be in a peace alliance.
PKK is branded as a terrorist organization in Sweden as well, so yeah...
Theres two sided the the coin. Neither are wrong the things we can accomplish if the accused terrorists who are believed to be communicating and organizing terror attacks were just put in a Sweden level nice prison for a few weeks and cut from comms until they made it clear they won't cause trouble for other countries, this can end so quick
Turkey has a genuine grievance, that we have no real way to know how valid it is but the question is 100% valid as it relates to national security
Sweden has always been a advocate for world peace, human rights, and a very valid interpretation of our general constitutions they couldn't turn the immigrants over to Turkey without violating their own interpretation of constitutional rights. Since neither are wrong and neither can fully concede, members should have looked for concessions we can make in Swedens place months ago so we could have resolved this before the application
@@WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq Sweeden support terrorism.There is house of terrorists.A couple days before terrorist flag was street of their countries that make very big sense because if you wonder reality,1 thing clear Nordics support on terrorism
@@WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq Do you want picture about terrorist flag in those countries?Just lemme know any stuf for sent photo,video to you
Two autocrats Hungry and Turkey opposing Finland and Sweden I wonder who benefits A third autocrat Russia. Shame to them
Bargaining chip 😉
How are turkish demands unreasonable? Should they be allowed to join despite being sanctioned by them?
@@kawaiiobama8079 What sanctions?...um
@@RR-ms1nv Living under rock and commenting?
From the start of Ukraine war Turkey has been the most supportive country to Ukraine. Turkey has given bayraktar unmanned combat aerial vehicle to Ukraine and that's the game changer drone on the war. Read more so be less ignorant.
Welcome to the world of war dear Finland and Sweden. You missed the action in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yugoslavia and Syria
TYPO in your title: “Finland and Sweden joining.” Not “Finland and Norway joining.”
NORWAY??
Norway is already in NATO, maybe you mean Sweden 😂
I could swear they do it on purpose to get loads of comments on their video to help the algorithms.
Miiiiiight wanna correct the video title, guys 😅
Did you mean Sweden? Not Norway?
nice video title. norway has been in NATO for a very long time.
Norway already in nato.we speak about finland and sweden apply for join nato.please writes correctly in articles 😀
Hope so.
Your title is wrong
3:48 Do not defame Hungarians. This'll never happen. Hungarian authorities had a few disputes with the EU, but they'll never act against the European safety and NATO. From the 20th century onwards, Hungarian people are against communism and Russian imperialism. Hungary is pro-freedom, anyway 🇭🇺🇪🇺
It's the human rights issue is the stumbling block, and you know it.
Perhaps you should remind your president of that?
love to hungaria from turkey♥ignorre the press from this scared countrys !
@@airfight10 they are scared so so much ! sitting in corner and crying inside for help 🤣
@@bernardpearce3478 They know it, but Hungary is getting all those ex-war torn immigrants from the Middle East. We got a few here in thr U.S and all it took was one local beheading, and then we were all screaming Rag head with even those who only ever talk about human rights eyeing them trying to make sure they weren't going to explode when they stepped into the cab
Turkey isn't really at fault. It deserves full repersentance, especially since it's the U.S and Brittains fault for the last Afghanistan war and how long it took to civilize again (and then how we just up and left after we actually righted our wrong)
Greece objected the entry of Macedonia to NATO because of the country's NAME, for years...
Norway?
Norway is joined with NATO. I think what you're talking about is Sweden. Finland and Sweden.
There are about 30000 total Arab immigrants in Finland now. Turkey is looking for some kind of a deal. Their economy is a worse mess and they are looking at Europe for help. There’s gotta be something they want from the EU. They mentioned Greece in the objection too.
We made the same mistake by allowing greece to join nato. We will not make the same mistake again. Finland sweden have financed many terrorist acts in Turkey. We lost 60,000 people in acts of terrorism. Russians will kiss they and we will talk about the old days. This is called karma ! if one day red snow falls, Finland sweden can be enter NATO.
Since we got the General Secretary of Nato me thinks a second joining of us Norws should be a smooth operation... or, this makes me question the seriousness of this channel...
The Titel of the video is wrong 😅 it's not Norway its Sweden
he even says Finland and Norway at 0:45. plus the title says norway. is it that hard to say the right country. First Sweden is mixed up with Switzerland and now with Norway.
Indeed. I can understand that a single entity slips up like this , but to get it wrong in several places like a title is a inexcusable embarrassment!
Norway? Norway!? Do the Norwegians know?🧐🤓🖖
Turkey's politics of scarcity is a poor fit for the West's politics of abundance. I hope we can come to an agreement, but Erdoğan taking this crisis as an opportunity is hard for me to respect.
İ dont support erdogan and i know that that was made for turkish voters. But erdogan has some points.
We were kicked from F-35 program and our money didnt returned to us.
Plus sweden really harbours pkk members.
@@burakayan3360 ok that makes sense. I wonder if now is a good time to ask Sweden to pardon Assange, too.
Hard for you to respect a counties security concern? Ohh nooo the Turks will have to put up with the new ally funding their enemy and suck it up to make you happy i guess
well we dont need your respect so...
@@jupiterbirlesikgezegenleri9884 what do you need NATO for if you're not a democracy anymore? you and Putin should be best buddies now.
editor made a big ooof
Why is there a swastika in the NATO star?
One thing is for sure , Putin only does things if there is a gain for him.
What about ... JUST BEING OVERCONFIDENT IN HIS VIRTUAL REALITY ?!?
Fun fact *Germany was the country who stopped Ukraine to join nato in 2008 💀 !* Look now they loose crimea and donbas almost ! This all can be avoided by just this one decision of Germany ! So don't tell turkey what to do before see what you have done ! + Turkey have there own interests soo now they also like you using this opportunity 😂🤭
Germany is a shame and cowards these days! Turkey is a dictatorship and Erdogan is a butcher!
Norway ?
Norways is already a part of NATO. Get it right !
The title should say join Finland and Sweden…not Norway
Way I see it, if Turkey alone can stop them from joining, we have bigger issues.
Any country in nato can stop the join of a now country by using Vito
Why? Didn't Greece stop Macedonia from joining on its own?
Stop support terrorism and join.Easy peasy
Swedes be mad rn for getting their country confused with Norway.
Greetings from Germany. Im glad to say:
Welcome SE & FI !
Norway??? Come on, it’s Finland and Sweden…
If Turkey drags its heels NATO countries should start signing individual treaties with Sweden and Finland as Britain and Finland did. Erdoğan is looking for a finance rescue for his damaged and bankrupt economy.
You youtube politologists are just something else..
Did you even research the reason of their objection? Stop making a fool of yourself. Sweden has been financing and sheltering a terrorist organisation Turkey is dealing with for over 40 years, even tho they theirselves have the organisation labeled as terrorist one. Finland is kind of in the same boat, sheltering members and so on.
@@cnz1212 Sure, Sweden and Finland have always been hot beds of terrorism. Terrorists in another country threatening mine, seems to be a popular theme of late. Erdoğan is drowning in bad paper, he needs a way out. His opposition might be that way.
That's what happens when the middle east floods your country, and you maintaina military just below the single biggest one in the alliance who's only bigger because it's intentionally bloating its funds for future studies. I'm all for the allies to come together and share the load, if it would give Turkey the rep it's supposed to have
Especially if we properly think it through, and try resolve the middle east issue they suffer over. If we were going to do artifical booms for the economy and willing to do a artificial recession to get odd the bull train, wouldn't it have made sense to try build factories to improve Turkeys immigrants quality of life without burdening Turkey itself and sell dirt cheap providing both jobs but sucking out of the federal bloat?
Finland and Sweden will probably have to wait out Erdogan, his presidency ends in 2024
it's not economics and it's not a financial issue it has nothing to do with it. These countries apply embargoes due to the operations Turkey has carried out to protect its borders. By provoking the Kurds, they supply them with weapons and cause bombs to explode in our country. Finland sweden have financed many terrorist acts in Turkey. We lost 60,000 people in acts of terrorism. This is called karma ! if one day red snow falls, Finland sweden can be enter NATO.
I'm not sure if Turkey is actually part of NATO or the Russian Federation. Of course I know what's recorded on paper but in action, there is no reason for Turkey to have a problem with Finland or Sweden.
ım also not shure maybe you are under olders problems Turkey is member in nato since 1952 nato foundet and dont take so seriösly this 2 small countrys will to nato after the war in ukraine they found the way to nato scared from putin !😂 this two-face countrys where was both country before ? do you think turks dont know who is putin and russia ? Turks are the peopel have most war agains russia in world history ! dont underestimate Turkey here. we never trust russia but we also dont rust to western world ! we stand in own foot and we have 10 tousend jear cultur civilisation we foundet 16 staats and we had a big empire ! you all is small fish agains Turkey !
Turkeys only buddy is themselves.
Turkey strikes me as kind of far right, bit if it wanted to join Russia and crush us it would have done it already. NATO is one for all and all for one we need to act like it, because the only thing that holds it together is the dream and moral if we political bull it the whole things going down tomorrow
Dont you listen Turkey rejects because they support terrorists in the syria that are attacking Turkey.
There is a good reason and that is terrorists that Sweden and Finnland are hiding.
Brooo why Norway wants to join- they are already in it. It’s sweden
Why is it that the countries that can be called slighting Autocratic use NATO accession as a bargaining chip, it reflects on the leaders moral compass
Who and how is anyone using any bargaining chip?
@@danieleyre8913 did you just comment on a video you didn't watch?
@@markycypress8484 No.
Can you answer my question?
Have we been throw'n out of NATO?🤔🇧🇻On 17. Of May?😪😅
Ta det inte så hårt, dom har bara en VÄLDIGT gammal historiebok... 😄
@@klasandersson7522 Haha. Ja tenk hvor mange Eurovisjon Song Contest vi kunne vunnet sammen.😂
@@klasandersson7522 Men seriøst. Velkommen inn i NATO. Forhåpentlig vis. Vi er med dere.
Vi trenger bare noen nye Carl Gustav 84mm gen 4.🙂 Så er vi up to date.😁
NO!
You need to fix your thumbnail title. It's not Norway, they are already a member of NATO. Sweden is the one in question here.
It sure seems like Turkey is flirting with Russia on this. They have extensive relations with the Russians, so might be motivated to keep them happy.
For those wondering, yes, if Turkey doesn't allow it, they can't join NATO. NATO's 2nd largest army and Europe's 1st. If these countries do not stop supporting terrorism, they will never allow it. PKK terrorist organization kills NATO soldiers and these countries are funding them, then they say protect me from Russia. Would you buy it if it was you, Nato?
Oh yeah, it sure has nothing to do with the fact that Sweden's been financing and sheltering the biggest terrorist group Turkey has been dealing with for over 40 years, that is trying to divide the country, right? Educate yoruself a little.
So asking them to lift their sanctions and stop them supprting kurdish militants that kill turkish citizens is flirting with Russia? You do realize turkey doesn't gain anything from either accession while they even under sanctions by them. Ofcourse there would be demands by turkey to allow an accession. This is what the turkish population wants.
If we help them recover from the recession, which we should have done before they had to ask as it was a friendly, im pretty sure they'll kick Russias butt on defense. Nukes might be a issue, but they don't need to smile and wave to avoid that
That relationship is kind of necessity. 'Cause Turkey is an euroasian country. That means Turkey has to make a good relationship with any asian or european country. Turkey can't reject Russia or NATO.If they make a small mistake while following this balance policy, their losses will probably be huge. And Turkey's geographical presence is as difficult as its political presence. Therefore, if a step is to be taken in this war game, it will be taken from Turkey. Since Turkish politicians are aware of this, they will use every opportunity to get what they want. Considering its military power, Turkey is an indispensable part of NATO. That's why they want to be satisfied.
Turkey has quickly become Putin's favourite country!
For those wondering, yes, if Turkey doesn't allow it, they can't join NATO. NATO's 2nd largest army and Europe's 1st. If these countries do not stop supporting terrorism, they will never allow it. PKK terrorist organization kills NATO soldiers and these countries are funding them, then they say protect me from Russia. Would you buy it if it was you, Nato?
So turkey should accept them despite being sanctioned by them?
@@davidnoelfranks1124 You are talking about Putin ?
there is nothing rong economic deals just ! turkey dont wont to a war no where ! how fast you forget the conservation organisation for peace with ukraine and russia in Turkey Turkey is the first country supporte with tb2 drons ukraine shame a littel bit !russia is ours neighbor we have no war with russia ! is that what you dont wish ? Turkey is a nato member ! but you have not any respeckt for becouse who knows who you are ? a enemy of turkey maybe a hater sick brain !
These countries apply embargoes due to the operations Turkey has carried out to protect its borders. By provoking the Kurds, they supply them with weapons and cause bombs to explode in our country. Finland sweden have financed many terrorist acts in Turkey. We lost 60,000 people in acts of terrorism. Russians will kiss they and we will talk about the old days. This is called karma ! if one day red snow falls, Finland sweden can be enter NATO.
Apparently, Norway is not a NATO-country, even though Norway is a founding member, and Germany is not.
No way it is possible what u r saying
Might change your title lol, Its Finland and Sweden, Norway is already part of Nato.
Turkey said it will veto.. These country has PKK people in their parliament and he will be voted out if he lets them in
O for fs we dont have pkk members in our parliment
@@nenasiek ppk är terrorister, även för Sverige. Men de Turkiet kräver att Sverige lämnar ut. Är inte terrorister. De är stämplade som det i Turkiet. För att de kritisera Turkiet och kämpar för mänskliga rättigheter och liknande. Det är inte troligt att Sverige lämnar ut dom. Så vi får hoppas att det löser sig ändå i Nato frågan
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These 2 countries (the ones he MEANT to say ) signed a pact with the UK. Why don't they add France and Germany, and Poland, and the US, and anyone who wants to play ball without politics and let NATO slowly fade into oblivion. And they need to make better rules and not rely on 100% unanimous decisions.
The title should read Sweden, not Norway.
1.Turkey is member of NATO from 1952 & not allow to join NATO finland &sweden why enemy of finland &sweden (how became enemy Of turkey due supporting kurdish Turkish conflict from year (1978 to present)
2. In NATO there is 30 country's members are there
If among out of 30 country. Any one country (like turkey ) make take ( objection it's not possible to NATO join membership by finland & sewden
Due to there NATO rule call. (enlargement & article 10) according to this rule if all 30 number of not remember agree then only and a new joining NATO member can become member of NATO
3. Moral of the story before playing the geo politics is came analyse the history
Then take decisions
4. This same NATO rule call. (enlargement & article 10) destroyed today Ukraine by that time used by Germany in the year of 2008 block Ukraine to stop joining NATO
And today in 2022
result Ukraine brutally destroyed by Russia
One country with Nato, Turkey, France Sweden Finland. Why no Csjsawidsk ghmlami !?
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Germany is a friend of Russia. Turkey also. These two countries are doing Russian bitting inside NATO. NATO need need to change that rule to prevent this inside saboteurs.
Blocking Ukraine was the right thing to do at the time because it was supposed to be a neutral zone without NATO or Russia and because of the 2010 election were the new president decided that the country would stay neutral and further negotiations were stopped.
You talk about ENLARGEMENT ?
Yeah but the thing is, Finland's president called to every Nato leader and asked if they have any objections. Erdogan said that he has no problems with Finland. Now instantly as the application is put forward the blackmail begins
Erdogan didn't make these rules up. If theres gonna be a conflict because of Sweden and Finland joining, Turkey would be dragged into it automatically. So they should also have the right to deny them joining NATO if they see it provoking a possible unnecessary conflict. Also remeber this is Erdogan so theres always the possibility that if he says "no", what he might actually mean is "make me an offer"...
I agree that everyone has the right, but if he wants something he could have asked for it earlier and not make a huge deal of it :D There's enough chaos in the world media already.
That's Exactly what's going on.
EU should send erdogan a check for 100 million then he can consider it…..
@@amadeuz8161 bro do you not know how to negotiate. Either he gets what he wants or NATO looks dumb
Unlike you, he knows Russia is molly wopping Ukraine. And that Sweden and Finland are a consolation prize cuz they aren’t really that important in the Grand scheme
Erdoğan's regime is facing inflation rate spiraled to near 70%. So, I don't think the obstacle for Sweden and Finland is caused by either of the applicants. Erdoğan has mismanaged Turkey's economy for decades, and is simply trying to survive. Kinda like Putin.
If the price is right 🤔
As Turks we know that Westerners can be either very ignorant or that they are simply pretending not to be aware of facts that are as clear as day. How exactly would Turkey benefit from Finland and Sweden's membership? Sweden has sent $376 million and arms to the enemy of Turkey, a NATO member. Finland sanctioned Turkey due to its operation against the YPG/PKK. NATO doesn't need Finland and Sweden, it's the other way around. Turkey has NATO's second-largest standing army and is centrally located in a strategically significant region, which makes it indispensable. Sweden and Finland's membership to NATO will only aggravate Russia even more and increases the risk of WW3. I don't want our soldiers to die for the protection of people who support our enemies, who are responsible for the deaths of 40.000 Turks. Let the PKK/YPG protect Sweden and Finland if Russia were to invade them.
@@abadairshi Russia has already threatened world 🌎 war3 weather you like it or not this is about the world, not just about Turkey 🤔 by the way Turkey is not Innocent
Wrong title… Not Norway, it’s Sweden.
NO WAY Man
This is a perfect example why unanimous consent is a very bad idea. It allows one nation to hold another nation for ransom for any reason. Good or bad. I really don't like Erdoğan. His human rights violations have put Turkey on my places to avoid list. That said, he's not wrong. Finland has racist organizations that have too much political power for my comfort. As do Turkey and the U.S.) However I believe that the real reason Erdoğan objects is sour grapes over trade sanctions and political ties with Putin. Members should be allowed to object and state why. If it's a good argument, others will back it. If not, it should be possible to overrule the objection.