Seems like a genuinely nice guy. Great to see they take people in entry lvl to train and he's spot on about college and the lack of opportunity for those seeking a trade
NYC CNC My iron addiction is severe, I recognized I had a problem so I joined a group.... all that did was give me more leads from people with the same addiction!!! LOL
John...Alfred...Great video and tour! It is very evident, that the key to their success, is having a "common Joe" supervisor, that can step in an operate most every machine. Having recently been on a mission, to tool up a KO Lee tool grinder that has been setting for years, made it especially interesting. It being a hobby venture, I can now see the possibilities are endless of what I can do if willing to spend the time! I have both the radial grinding fixture, as well as the air bearing spiral grinding fixture, and can also do od grinding with the powered workhead....I'm getting excited! ....ready to watch again! Thanks!
That was my philosophy for 30 years, and it works! .....sure wish you were closer! .... in tooling up my KO Lee, I'd love to "dumpster dive" behind your shop!
Love your vids John. You get into shops that really blow me away. Sort of shocking that there is a quick turn carbide shop left in the states, let alone CA given it's reputation. Do you know of any American companies that do indexable inserts or finding wheels? I can only think of the big names over seas. Keep the great content coming
I agree whole heartedly on most of the comments here that everyone does not have to go to college. These jobs you see here can earn a very good living and are in high demand at any given time in USA. All of these shops are hurting for skilled labor right now, also stating it's hard to find people that WANT to work in this field & have the ambition.
My opinion on college is that the "everybody to college" mentality has not done our nation any favors. Many companies hedge their bets on new hires by looking at the degree as a certificate that the person can follow instruction, then proceed to train them in technology that is not being taught anywhere yet, and may be trade-secrets. Specialized and 2-year degrees can earn very well, and start that earning process sooner and with less debt. I know from experience that once people that start with a company, apply themselves and get a reputation, no one remembers where or if they went to school. The universities in this country are now a huge industry, and have enormous political power under recent administrations, so anything that runs counter to their best interests will be ridiculed. But conventional "wisdom" is not always where the smart money goes.
weshowe I really spoke without thought. I do think college is important. I would just like to see all of the various shop classes back in high schools so that kids can see if it is something that interests them.
We need people that can dream up new ideas, and we need people that can execute the ones we already have. The loss of a respect for trades as a career goal (as reflected in the lack of shop classes) is not a move forward, IMO. People I went to HS with studied auto body shop (and other topics) and found good paying jobs with their skills soon after graduation. And no student debt to pay off.
Agreed, my last job was at a packaging equipment company, I had mechanical experience from wrenching, and was hired as an assembler.. I worked in the machine shop a bit and then was a service tech.. My foot in the door was when I was given the shop tour, I corrected the supervisor on how a machine performed a particular function, so he knew I was observant.. No amount of schooling gets you that, and no amount of schooling makes you good at troubleshooting problems either.
Hey NYC CNC I am a student in high school and I take machining in school and I was wondering if you can do a video on your cnc lathe because we are doing external threads and I was wondering if you can high speed thread on a lathe
I think all kids should go to college; at least through an AA. Kids coming out of high school do not know what they want to do for the rest of their lives. They may think they do, but they don't. if they go into something like machining/construction/another trade right out of HS, spend a few years doing it, and end up not liking it, they will be stuck doing that for the rest of their lives. They will never have the time or money to go back to school, or they'll be doing the 1 class a semester plan and will never ever get through school. Those 2-4 years of college give them adult experiences, and time to think of what they want to do. I could had gone on to inherit mutt family business and made 10-20 times as much money, but that's not what I wanted to do. It took me 12 years to figure that out, and now I'm 30 y.o. and back in school. I work at a community college, and see students in situations like this all the time. There's guys there that are 40-60 y.o. and just now going back to school because they finally have the time/money to afford to quit work and go to school. Other students are in their 30's, and are doing 1-2 class a semester. Most have no time with their families, not enough time to work AND study, are doing terrible grade wise, and will not succeed. And let me tell you, trying to start school, after not having any schooling for over a decade, is VERY difficult. Just my 2 cents from my experiences and what I see everyday.
Andrew Delashaw I said this above but I will restate it to you as well... I really spoke without thought. I do think college is important. I would just like to see all of the various shop classes back in high schools so that kids can see if it is something that interests them.
anyone know what the tool they use to hold the carbide in place while brazing is made of? ceramic maybe? Brazed some tools the other night, that would have been handy.
you can induction heat and harden only the insert pocket, just change the coil. You need a special coil have an engineer build you one. You heard right its really the best.
"You don't have to go to college." No truer words have ever been spoken. ALL public schools should be required to offer our students trade skills or tax funding should be denied until they do.
Ya, I noticed it cut as they were travelling over to the Ewag. I suspect it broke at the time of filming, and/or UGG got wind of this and shut it down somehow?
👨💻 left scholl & 16 found a Spring manuf c/o IN MELB VIC oz 25 years🐨🕺I latter left knowing more than any of my mates Learnt in an office I had access to toolroom machines & tools and allowed to use most for small projects i set up all type spring machine & also did sample making by hand wasn't much i couldn't do you thru at me they nicknamed me the wizz kid and every boss i got along with like a father or bro! i just got it when alot didnt wish i learnt machine shop Dam cnc robotics today setting huge production nos or making them is the $ today the tech is out there i made my own Jigs & set ups etc small runs welded mild steel to spring steel ring for a big lathe hand coiling :) never broke i once got the tool room to weld 1 time and it broke in 2 sec i NEVER asked anyone to make my tools again :) like this when it broke it went across the room thru a wall if it hit anyone kill em so i was happy the way i took my time self learnt how to weld mild to spring steel :) like fabric stitching to me 👍🐨🕺
college is such a waste of time and money, if i had a shop i would build it up. i've been in college for 10 years got about 10 more to go for my field of work.
Seems like a genuinely nice guy. Great to see they take people in entry lvl to train and he's spot on about college and the lack of opportunity for those seeking a trade
Nice shop tour. Thanks for sharing and for Alfred and AB Tools for letting you film it.
It is the first time I see a machining center being used in carbide tool sharpening. This is sensational. Congratulations from Brazil!!!!!!
Great shop tour. It is really awesome to see all the form tooling being made. 20ft bridge mill = yes please! lol
NYC CNC
My iron addiction is severe, I recognized I had a problem so I joined a group.... all that did was give me more leads from people with the same addiction!!! LOL
I love plant tours :) Always learn something.
Really, really good! I learned a ton from this. Thanks so much to both you and the A.B. Tools guys for putting this together! :)
instablaster...
Thank you for a great set of videos. Please pass along our thanks to AB Tool. I am looking forward to giving them my business.
Happy to see the carbide cutting tools workshop
Buy all of our o-ring cutters from AB. Great stuff!
Great facility! So good to meet you that day!
that was cool man. just started running a shear hog in our tormachs. freaking love it. throws chips EVERYWHERE.
John...Alfred...Great video and tour! It is very evident, that the key to their success, is having a "common Joe" supervisor, that can step in an operate most every machine. Having recently been on a mission, to tool up a KO Lee tool grinder that has been setting for years, made it especially interesting. It being a hobby venture, I can now see the possibilities are endless of what I can do if willing to spend the time! I have both the radial grinding fixture, as well as the air bearing spiral grinding fixture, and can also do od grinding with the powered workhead....I'm getting excited! ....ready to watch again! Thanks!
Jim Liechty Thank You Jim! I don't know if I'm the key but I do make it a point to not ask of others anything that I wouldn't do.
That was my philosophy for 30 years, and it works! .....sure wish you were closer! .... in tooling up my KO Lee, I'd love to "dumpster dive" behind your shop!
Whoa..., did he play Garth from Wayne's world ? LOL awesome tour , thanks John, thanks AB tool
Excellent discussion on tech school versus college....
Man that guy knows his stuff
Walking encyclopaedia. Very smart cookie
Hooter700 .
Right on! Going behind the enemy's lines in the Peoples Republic of California. Damn good work, John! (AB looks like excellent products).
Awesome dude and great to see Aussie ANCA machines!
Before cnc arrived I used to grind cutting tools on a Wickman optical profile grinder. what a machine..:)
Lovely... thanks so much for this tour
Very interesting tour.
Love your vids John. You get into shops that really blow me away. Sort of shocking that there is a quick turn carbide shop left in the states, let alone CA given it's reputation. Do you know of any American companies that do indexable inserts or finding wheels? I can only think of the big names over seas. Keep the great content coming
Grinding with a Haas that's impressive.
MP Tool in Valencia, CA also uses the Haas in this manner. It is quite impressive.
impressive company and employee concepts.
I agree whole heartedly on most of the comments here that everyone does not have to go to college. These jobs you see here can earn a very good living and are in high demand at any given time in USA. All of these shops are hurting for skilled labor right now, also stating it's hard to find people that WANT to work in this field & have the ambition.
My opinion on college is that the "everybody to college" mentality has not done our nation any favors. Many companies hedge their bets on new hires by looking at the degree as a certificate that the person can follow instruction, then proceed to train them in technology that is not being taught anywhere yet, and may be trade-secrets.
Specialized and 2-year degrees can earn very well, and start that earning process sooner and with less debt. I know from experience that once people that start with a company, apply themselves and get a reputation, no one remembers where or if they went to school.
The universities in this country are now a huge industry, and have enormous political power under recent administrations, so anything that runs counter to their best interests will be ridiculed. But conventional "wisdom" is not always where the smart money goes.
weshowe I really spoke without thought. I do think college is important. I would just like to see all of the various shop classes back in high schools so that kids can see if it is something that interests them.
We need people that can dream up new ideas, and we need people that can execute the ones we already have. The loss of a respect for trades as a career goal (as reflected in the lack of shop classes) is not a move forward, IMO. People I went to HS with studied auto body shop (and other topics) and found good paying jobs with their skills soon after graduation. And no student debt to pay off.
Agreed, my last job was at a packaging equipment company, I had mechanical experience from wrenching, and was hired as an assembler.. I worked in the machine shop a bit and then was a service tech.. My foot in the door was when I was given the shop tour, I corrected the supervisor on how a machine performed a particular function, so he knew I was observant.. No amount of schooling gets you that, and no amount of schooling makes you good at troubleshooting problems either.
Hey is that oneeartim Tim!? watched the whole vid and didn't connect the H shirt to the HSM until the closing statement! three worlds colliding!!
So cool, Is that end mill ready to be used right out of the CNC? does it need to be sharpened?
shelby glazer goes in a round blank and comes out a sellable cutter.
Hey NYC CNC I am a student in high school and I take machining in school and I was wondering if you can do a video on your cnc lathe because we are doing external threads and I was wondering if you can high speed thread on a lathe
Boom! War Machine spotting at 59:47!
War Machine LLC haha! You had to look hard!
You were headed over to the Ewag, then the feed cut to the manual machines 46:07 ... Where'd the Ewag go lol?
Are there any fans with the front guard left on them in this shop?
I think all kids should go to college; at least through an AA. Kids coming out of high school do not know what they want to do for the rest of their lives. They may think they do, but they don't. if they go into something like machining/construction/another trade right out of HS, spend a few years doing it, and end up not liking it, they will be stuck doing that for the rest of their lives. They will never have the time or money to go back to school, or they'll be doing the 1 class a semester plan and will never ever get through school. Those 2-4 years of college give them adult experiences, and time to think of what they want to do. I could had gone on to inherit mutt family business and made 10-20 times as much money, but that's not what I wanted to do. It took me 12 years to figure that out, and now I'm 30 y.o. and back in school. I work at a community college, and see students in situations like this all the time. There's guys there that are 40-60 y.o. and just now going back to school because they finally have the time/money to afford to quit work and go to school. Other students are in their 30's, and are doing 1-2 class a semester. Most have no time with their families, not enough time to work AND study, are doing terrible grade wise, and will not succeed. And let me tell you, trying to start school, after not having any schooling for over a decade, is VERY difficult. Just my 2 cents from my experiences and what I see everyday.
Andrew Delashaw I said this above but I will restate it to you as well... I really spoke without thought. I do think college is important. I would just like to see all of the various shop classes back in high schools so that kids can see if it is something that interests them.
anyone know what the tool they use to hold the carbide in place while brazing is made of? ceramic maybe? Brazed some tools the other night, that would have been handy.
Wow, great tour. So what do you use to dress a diamond wheel?
Louis Brown silicon carbide 100-80 grit
Great tour but stopped too soon, I'm hanging at Tom and the Shear Hog.
hankus253 that was part one
That's my town!
hi first comment. im Argentian ! :)
have you used the black flux? guy i bought my shop from used the white
you can induction heat and harden only the insert pocket, just change the coil. You need a special coil have an engineer build you one. You heard right its really the best.
meocats Thank You for the info. We really haven't used it enough to discover its full potential.
Nice shop tour. But after 30 minutes, i got sea sick. You need a canera with a stabiliser
How does he dress and true all those wheels?
Their is a place called SGS they make custom carbide end mills and cutting things it is in ohio as well
"i dont think we could put a chuck on the back", bro you could put a chuck on a drillpress if you were determined enough ..
meocats you are correct. Foot in my mouth on that one for sure.
Are they using Silver Solder????
"You don't have to go to college." No truer words have ever been spoken. ALL public schools should be required to offer our students trade skills or tax funding should be denied until they do.
the subliminal messaging of him drinking a pepsi made me feel for a cola.
Seeing him drink Pepsi made me want to drink stale urine.. NOT!!!
What happened to the portion of the video where the shear hog inserts are made?
Ya, I noticed it cut as they were travelling over to the Ewag. I suspect it broke at the time of filming, and/or UGG got wind of this and shut it down somehow?
Don’t give away shop secrets bro. 😂
Helloooo somebody knows where can I download the endmills like a ballnose and streight endmills of some links
he likes clean slates lol
👨💻 left scholl & 16 found a Spring manuf c/o IN MELB VIC oz 25 years🐨🕺I latter left knowing more than any of my mates Learnt in an office I had access to toolroom machines & tools and allowed to use most for small projects i set up all type spring machine & also did sample making by hand wasn't much i couldn't do you thru at me they nicknamed me the wizz kid and every boss i got along with like a father or bro! i just got it when alot didnt wish i learnt machine shop Dam cnc robotics today setting huge production nos or making them is the $ today the tech is out there i made my own Jigs & set ups etc small runs welded mild steel to spring steel ring for a big lathe hand coiling :) never broke i once got the tool room to weld 1 time and it broke in 2 sec i NEVER asked anyone to make my tools again :) like this when it broke it went across the room thru a wall if it hit anyone kill em so i was happy the way i took my time self learnt how to weld mild to spring steel :) like fabric stitching to me 👍🐨🕺
I've ordered many tools from this company (I supply the geometry). Super fast turn around. Good thing the guy giving the tour is not making them.
Always wondered what there shop looked like.
mericm1981 Thank You for the orders but there is a good chance that I do make your cutters.
Sorry, figured you as a typical $ counter. After watching the entire video I get you are more involved than that. Great job.
Can you make a part for me? Not complicated but I am willing to pay you what seems fair to you.
Did he just say,” we tried to hire someone with experience but it just don’t work out”,?.
Mr. Lyon is a very particular guy :)
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college is such a waste of time and money, if i had a shop i would build it up. i've been in college for 10 years got about 10 more to go for my field of work.
that's kinda what it takes to be a brain surgeon
Please get a steady cam. Or make one! The shop tours give me motion sickness.
Lincoln not Sacramento
El polvo de carbite no ase daño cuando lo reapiran
White flux?
Tiago Jaques da Silva
Compare that guy to some college professor. Who really adds value to the world?