Sonic Origins Music Comparison - What Sonic 3 Tracks Were Replaced?

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  • Опубліковано 5 сер 2024
  • Sonic Origins does not include some of the original music tracks from Sonic the Hedgehog 3. So how did they replace said tracks?
    0:00 Remember these great tracks?
    0:38 Old tracks compared (Carnival Night Zone, Ice Cap Zone, Launch Base Zone)
    2:08 Prototype tracks compared
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  • @NathanielBandy
    @NathanielBandy 2 роки тому +2633

    I'm gonna have to mod in the originals

    • @zenatrical
      @zenatrical 2 роки тому +90

      YES please do ! Btw i love your channel

    • @Sea32x
      @Sea32x 2 роки тому +14

      True...

    • @ChuckE.CheesesIllinois
      @ChuckE.CheesesIllinois 2 роки тому +41

      These are the originals bandy

    • @Eireyes622
      @Eireyes622 2 роки тому +5

      Come on let’s go!!!

    • @HOL457
      @HOL457 2 роки тому +18

      @@ChuckE.CheesesIllinois Yep, these are indeed the originals

  • @paperluigi6132
    @paperluigi6132 2 роки тому +2291

    IMO, the biggest loss was Ice Cap Zone.

  • @RiseXP
    @RiseXP 2 роки тому +467

    Ice cap is just evidence that music can completely change the mood and feeling of a zone. The ‘hard times’ version makes it feel like a melancholy and lonely descent down a formidable mountain whilst sonic is surrounded by ice, the frozen version of his greatest fear: water

    • @why3994
      @why3994 2 роки тому +2

      Hard times version?

    • @XephyrEnigma
      @XephyrEnigma 2 роки тому +8

      @@why3994 The original Ice Cap theme sounds very similar to Hard Times by The Jetzons.

    • @RedSaber9
      @RedSaber9 Рік тому +5

      His fear came from Labyrinth tell me I'm wrong

    • @berdinawilliams5875
      @berdinawilliams5875 Рік тому

      True so true

    • @RobertSoul123
      @RobertSoul123 Рік тому +2

      Damn. Did William Shakespeare write this comment?

  • @YowLife
    @YowLife 2 роки тому +823

    *Strange, the new tracks don't really sound like they're from a Sega Genesis game.*
    Perhaps they're not using the same soundbites as the Sega Genesis.

    • @ExtraordinaryFate
      @ExtraordinaryFate 2 роки тому +71

      *Strange, I can also type in bold.*

    • @bloxxel64colonthree
      @bloxxel64colonthree 2 роки тому +36

      Wrong. is been stated that the creator of the new music used the same Yamaha synth.

    • @Valstrax420
      @Valstrax420 2 роки тому +20

      It just sounds clear now and not played through a CRT TV.

    • @david-eh6ps
      @david-eh6ps 2 роки тому +14

      The songs are from the Sonic 3 prototype.

    • @Silvero_o
      @Silvero_o 2 роки тому +26

      @@david-eh6ps ye we know, the seconde half is literally comparing the original prototype with the remaster...

  • @ChaotixBR
    @ChaotixBR 2 роки тому +1616

    Man, i'll miss the ice cap music

    • @BreadCroissant
      @BreadCroissant 2 роки тому +30

      Maybe MJ and original music will be unlockable

    • @AleBuiu.
      @AleBuiu. 2 роки тому +13

      @Team Chaotix Br tbm vo sentir falta da musica da ice cap e a "musica nova" nem combina com a ice cap e ja sei que vc é br e conheço o canal

    • @theultimabass
      @theultimabass 2 роки тому +28

      @@BreadCroissant They're not. The DLC doesn't have the Sonic 3 at all. It only has Knuckles Chaotix, Sonic Spinball, and Sonic 3D Blast.

    • @yoshiponyoschannel6471
      @yoshiponyoschannel6471 2 роки тому +5

      @@theultimabass a man can still dream though.

    • @tobiasrios2503
      @tobiasrios2503 2 роки тому +1

      I will too

  • @TailsFan92
    @TailsFan92 2 роки тому +889

    For some reason I feel like the original prototype tracks sound better than the updated prototype soundtracks. The newer versions sound like a downgrade in my opinion.

    • @MegaMet98
      @MegaMet98 2 роки тому +102

      Ice Cap Zone's sound exactly like the one in the prototype or at least close enough.
      But yes, I agree that Carnival Night and Launch Base should've use the unfinished prototypes as the basis instead of the finalized ones used in the Sonic & Knuckles collection.
      (EDIT: So the music was based the demo tapes instead of 1993 prototype, that explains why Carnival Night and Launch Base didn't sound right)
      Otherwise the rest of the unaltered soundtracks remains intact.

    • @cubedtothex
      @cubedtothex 2 роки тому +29

      Serious downgrade 😡

    • @EvanTomiko
      @EvanTomiko 2 роки тому +44

      They sound like unfinished tracks. I don't like them

    • @ShurikanBlade
      @ShurikanBlade 2 роки тому +45

      personally I think that the instrument sounds they choice are vastly inferior to the prototype ones. the prototype ones sound like a sound you'd get from the 90s while the new renditions are too modern and electric sounding.

    • @kburns2406
      @kburns2406 2 роки тому +21

      Was going to say the same thing. How did they somehow make the prototype tracks worse?

  • @KalleBowo
    @KalleBowo 2 роки тому +151

    Daaamn, I got to say, that's absolutely a deal breaker for me. Especially Ice Cap and Launch Base Zone had such amazing music, I regularily find myself humming these tracks from time to time even after nearly 30 years.

    • @rylandarrke3200
      @rylandarrke3200 2 роки тому +3

      I bought it unaware. It was bad and scary and sad and wrong. Everything was fine until carnival zone. Then it was not fine at all.

    • @DoomKid
      @DoomKid 2 роки тому +5

      The deal breaker for me was the fact that this remastered collection has bugs out the wazoo. The original games had an occasional bug but you can’t play this stinker for 15 minutes without getting stuck in the level geometry...

    • @TomsRetroGames
      @TomsRetroGames 2 роки тому +1

      @@DoomKid I swear I bought it and 100% the games and there were some bugs but they weren’t deal breakers. The worst glitch I encountered was at the end of Hidden Palace Zone in Sonic & Knuckles where being Hyper Sonic after beating Knuckles just stopped. I could still move but nothing was happening. I just restarted the level from the checkpoint being able to do that in Origins and beat it without it.

    • @KLMarc
      @KLMarc 7 місяців тому

      The PC version can have the songs replaced with a simple file swap

  • @ElComanche
    @ElComanche 2 роки тому +53

    Man that ice cap song slaps so hard. Beautiful stuff to this day.

  • @DekerO03
    @DekerO03 2 роки тому +438

    I will deeply miss Launch Base Zone, i think that in the original it nailed the atmosphere of the zone and also the song represented the feeling of "you're very near of the end, maybe it's the end? We'll find out"

    • @Xxandrew01
      @Xxandrew01 2 роки тому +26

      I also think the original Ice Cap Zone was the best as well. It had this very dark feeling of being at a glacier that is dangerous. The new version doesn't capture that feeling sadly.

    • @RealAGuy
      @RealAGuy 2 роки тому +4

      @@Xxandrew01 I agree.

    • @isaacramirez2143
      @isaacramirez2143 2 роки тому +4

      Launch base Is a mid game zone so...

    • @NineTails87
      @NineTails87 2 роки тому +9

      @@isaacramirez2143 not in the original Sonic 3 release..... so.....

    • @isaacramirez2143
      @isaacramirez2143 2 роки тому +3

      @@NineTails87 but lauch base was planned as a mid game zone so...

  • @25kamul
    @25kamul 2 роки тому +625

    All they had to do was to add a few instruments and it would have been golden, like in Sonic 3 A.I.R. This sounds closer to the crappy MIDIs than the real proto versions.

    • @juhadexcelsior
      @juhadexcelsior 2 роки тому +50

      Even SilvaGunner understood this with his spoofs

    • @Star_Mans_Legacy
      @Star_Mans_Legacy 2 роки тому +15

      That, or just make something new (which would have been more difficult) but hey at least we’re getting great ports on our consoles and portable devices

    • @Jimbo1221
      @Jimbo1221 2 роки тому +16

      I WISH I NEVER LISTENED TO THE PROTO VERSIONS….. ugh these are bad lmao

    • @CharlieTheSupersaurus
      @CharlieTheSupersaurus 2 роки тому +11

      You had one job, Sega.

    • @south_island_hero
      @south_island_hero 2 роки тому +1

      At least these are actually better than the midi's.

  • @Fluxuation
    @Fluxuation Рік тому +13

    “No copyright law in the universe will stop me!”

    • @matthewlawton9241
      @matthewlawton9241 5 днів тому

      Do what you want cause a pirate is free, you are a pirate!

  • @HardPhoenixRock
    @HardPhoenixRock Рік тому +10

    If you ask me, there is a lesson in this: Never work with a celebrity without a way of ensuring you can always use your own content.

  • @ichi1011
    @ichi1011 2 роки тому +359

    The best compromise would've been to hire Tee Lopes to compose new tracks for the affected stages. I have full confidence that he would have put together some bangers. As things stand, these versions of the songs just don't do it for me at all...

    • @TayTheDay
      @TayTheDay 2 роки тому +47

      Agreed. Even the original prototype tracks sound way better

    • @benraven9087
      @benraven9087 2 роки тому +31

      You know who is the one responsible for "remastering" these tracks according to Sega? Jun Sennoe apparently.

    • @RhythicManRhythm
      @RhythicManRhythm 2 роки тому +7

      He did an amazing job with ninja turtles so they should have.

    • @Cleverconveyence
      @Cleverconveyence 2 роки тому +4

      @@benraven9087 wow real shocker

    • @benraven9087
      @benraven9087 2 роки тому +47

      @@brucewatkinson5254 Actually, he's better known as the song writer and guitarist of Crush 40, as well as the composer of Sonic Adventure 1 & 2.

  • @SuperStaticPro
    @SuperStaticPro 2 роки тому +730

    The New Music Sounds Closer to the Version of the Sonic and Knuckles Collection on PC than the original Sonic 3 Prototype on Genesis. Except Ice Cap act 2, that sounds the same.

    • @DisasterMillennial
      @DisasterMillennial 2 роки тому +45

      I grew up with the Sonic and Knuckles Collection so if anything, these "new" songs actually make me feel MORE nostalgic lol

    • @SuperStaticPro
      @SuperStaticPro 2 роки тому +38

      @@DisasterMillennial Though I prefer the prototype tracks, I’m glad you’ll get some enjoyment out of the tracks.

    • @Roboshi2007
      @Roboshi2007 2 роки тому +7

      The pc version had the pre-MJ tracks so yeah these were the finalised prototype tracks in the end

    • @HulluHapua
      @HulluHapua 2 роки тому +3

      I mean, the prototype compositions were likely unfinished anyway

    • @ToonCatTV
      @ToonCatTV 2 роки тому +2

      @@HulluHapua did you not hear them?

  • @jishservedcold3536
    @jishservedcold3536 2 роки тому +31

    I am CRUSHED to see this. Sonic 3 was nothing but bangers, one of the best video game OSTs of all time

  • @troywright359
    @troywright359 2 роки тому +11

    I'm so used to associating MJ track with launch base. Like that's a strong nostalgic memory for me.

  • @Ecua73
    @Ecua73 2 роки тому +375

    Honestly I really hope 2 things happen.
    1. The modding community steps in a restores the old tracks.
    2.(This is a huge stretch) Sega comes to an agreement with all other parties regarding the og music and in turn sells a dlc pack called the S3&K Music pack, and hopefully officially acknowledges that MJ did have some hand in the Original soundtrack.

    • @HelperUnknownGB
      @HelperUnknownGB 2 роки тому +12

      I see the former being far many times more likely. Maybe the modern could use DJ SpinDash’s version used in Sonic 3 AIR.

    • @Simon-zo1vf
      @Simon-zo1vf 2 роки тому +40

      I hope 1 thing happens: People don't buy this crap! So simple

    • @tristandahn2284
      @tristandahn2284 2 роки тому +37

      @@Simon-zo1vf Clown emoji

    • @thevenom2731
      @thevenom2731 2 роки тому +28

      @@Simon-zo1vf it's crap just because three songs from one game were replaced? gtfoh kid

    • @flainfan
      @flainfan 2 роки тому +10

      @@Simon-zo1vf 🤡

  • @Estorium
    @Estorium 2 роки тому +364

    This collection is seriously neutered without those tracks. Ice Cap zone's music is in my top 3 videogame themes of all time. The Carnival Night zone music is iconic and funky, and Launch Base's music fits the stage so well. It feels like a different game without the original Genesis music.

    • @Joosher56
      @Joosher56 2 роки тому +11

      I completely agree

    • @kirbywordy
      @kirbywordy 2 роки тому +6

      agrree

    • @lunatic0verlord10
      @lunatic0verlord10 2 роки тому +30

      And the new choices are *AWFUL!*
      Even the old prototype versions were better.
      That was quite possibly one of the worst things Sega could've done.

    • @kirbywordy
      @kirbywordy 2 роки тому +4

      @@lunatic0verlord10 ice cap act 2 survived

    • @girlslaughingjp
      @girlslaughingjp 2 роки тому +6

      Come on, that’s a stretch. I love Jackson tracks, but these prototype tracks are just as good. The video here doesn’t play enough of the songs in order to gain full context of their sound. The carnival night prototype lines up with the vibes of the music from Balloon Park. These tracks make sense and they are good.

  • @ViVaLaRan
    @ViVaLaRan 2 роки тому +27

    For someone who grew up with both PC & genesis version of the game i'm loving the throwback to the PC version tracks
    That being said i hope somebody can mod the Genesis tracks back in lol

    • @GTXDash
      @GTXDash 2 роки тому +1

      ...or the prototype tracks. These new ones somehow sound worse than the PC Midi's using a good soundfont.

    • @billyskittles1036
      @billyskittles1036 Рік тому +1

      Sonic on PC? 🤮

  • @NineteeN9D
    @NineteeN9D 2 роки тому +12

    The “remastered” tracks I definitely remember, since I did have the Sonic & Knuckles Collection as well, but maaaaaaan it really saddens me that the Genesis versions are gone. Those songs were a huge part of why Sonic 3 & Knuckles is my all-time favorite Sonic game. Playing through these Zones on Origins for me doesn’t even make me happy anymore.

  • @TheDanimatorsChannel
    @TheDanimatorsChannel 2 роки тому +250

    Part of what is hurting the new mixes of these tracks is the lack of a wide stereo sound.
    The one that pains me the most is carnival night act 2, if you listen to the intro the prototype sounds so much WIDER
    For some reason, ice cap act 1 is the only one I feel has a better stereo image

    • @TNEQL
      @TNEQL 2 роки тому +18

      Indeed. They somehow made the new songs sound WORSE than the prototypes.

    • @realPurpleOrb
      @realPurpleOrb 2 роки тому

      And even with ice cap, it's essentially pre-sonic 3 since act 1 sounds identical to act 2

    • @shadowledastray
      @shadowledastray 2 роки тому +5

      Agreed, the mix sounds crowded with everything up-front and center, and compression (or low-pass filtering?) seems to have chopped off the crisp high-end frequencies expected from Genesis synth.
      Both issues rob the tracks of clarity.. I think the resulting off-putting tone is the real culprit here, exaggerating the disparity between these tracks and the prototype ones.

    • @TheDanimatorsChannel
      @TheDanimatorsChannel 2 роки тому +3

      @@shadowledastray
      Yes i also totally thought they needed more high end, these tracks would all sound better with a slight boost in the highs

    • @chanceForNotBeingRapper
      @chanceForNotBeingRapper 2 роки тому

      I am not good at music studying but I think what you said about wide stereo is called reverb? If these tracks are played in live set, reverb is super important for creating the atmosphere that studio can't recreate

  • @DGG91
    @DGG91 2 роки тому +465

    Not really a fan of the new renditions. Looks like they are primarily based on the PC port instead prototype renditions. Ice Cap for example has the same melody instruments in both act 1 and 2 unlike the prototype and Launch Base Act 2 doesn't sound so powerful.
    Carnival Night Act 1 on PC always sounded unsynchronized for me, something I haven't found on the original prototype track, which sounds even better. It's a shame this wasn't brought up in the new rendition

    • @RRM693
      @RRM693 2 роки тому +7

      I agree

    • @deserted4ever
      @deserted4ever 2 роки тому +27

      they chose to “remake” the PC songs instead of simply enhancing the prototype songs that fans have made sound better than this for years already…. Carnival night 1’s tempo is the proof they decided to just go with the PC version

    • @Epsilonsama
      @Epsilonsama 2 роки тому +4

      The PC Collection versions were closer to the final version of said tracks. The Prototype ones are unfinished and had some channels muted.

    • @fificivil4080
      @fificivil4080 2 роки тому

      Me too

    • @moonbeamer
      @moonbeamer 2 роки тому +2

      It’s a shame
      I do like the prototype version tho

  • @NiNGalaxU2
    @NiNGalaxU2 2 роки тому +9

    One big reason for me to get Sonic Origins was because I never got to play Sonic 3 but heard some of the music and loved it. Now that factor is gone and I don’t see myself spending 40$ on this. Michael Jackson’s Ice Cap Act 2 just sounds amazing. Was looking forward to that.

  • @epicchris1985
    @epicchris1985 2 роки тому

    Can someone tell me I got sonic origins premium with the packs and the music I can play but all show locked icon saying points needed? is this a bug?

  • @ruru8021
    @ruru8021 2 роки тому +90

    Losing Ice cap just crushed my soul in every piece scattered through out the infinite universes.

    • @petergriffinsbrother2499
      @petergriffinsbrother2499 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah

    • @FireStriker_
      @FireStriker_ 2 роки тому +2

      Same it’s the only one that really is worse

    • @Father_Venti
      @Father_Venti 2 роки тому +2

      there is a chance to get the mj music as dlc except ice cap because it's not by mj and the og creator of ice cap zone music/hard times died

    • @Benjamillion
      @Benjamillion 2 роки тому +3

      Just wait for the modders to step in.

    • @Clingojam
      @Clingojam 2 роки тому +2

      BREAKING NEWS: local Sonic fan becomes W. D. Gaster after hearing the wrong tunes /j

  • @Sonickeyblade00
    @Sonickeyblade00 2 роки тому +60

    I knew this was gonna sting. But hoo boy. Ice Cap gets hit the hardest. The prototype song just doesn't invoke the same sense of danger that the original Ice Cap Zone song does.

    • @mane8751
      @mane8751 2 роки тому

      yeah

    • @JCULLI
      @JCULLI 2 роки тому

      Right. 🥺 yeah.

    • @TheFeezy777
      @TheFeezy777 2 роки тому

      Launch base zone pissed me off the most SMFH

    • @JTCPingas
      @JTCPingas 2 роки тому +1

      That's gonna be hard disagree from me. Carnival Night got hit the hardest.

    • @mrbisshie
      @mrbisshie 2 роки тому

      I actually like the new Carnival Night zone songs. But dear god, that new Ice Cap zone song is god awful.

  • @supergobbler6830
    @supergobbler6830 Рік тому +3

    So informative. Thank you! I DID play Sonic origins first recently so I admit that the alternative tracks did grow on me. But mad respect to the og mj tracks

  • @luisdiaz1980
    @luisdiaz1980 2 роки тому

    Can you select the US and JP soundtracks for Sonic CD? Also the opening animated movie? Can you select both versions? Is it upscaled?

  • @TealOpal
    @TealOpal 2 роки тому +256

    The original Ice Cap is a banger and one of my favorite tracks in the series. It's a shame to see it replaced, but the reasoning makes perfect sense. Hopefully we get some mods on the PC version to readd the old track.

    • @HyperDarkerSonic
      @HyperDarkerSonic 2 роки тому +16

      give it a week, we'll have our orginal music back

    • @Benjamillion
      @Benjamillion 2 роки тому +19

      I honestly think the Jackson family wouldn't even care if they kept the original tracks in, probably just Sega being a little too cautious.

    • @robbiewalker2831
      @robbiewalker2831 2 роки тому

      @@Benjamillion Fuck SEGA and their bad business decisions they've made since 2003.

    • @curtisd88
      @curtisd88 2 роки тому +33

      @@Benjamillion Nah they literally can't use it. They can't even use a smidge of it or they will be hit with a huge lawsuit. The music industry is a LOT more petty than it used to be.

    • @TurbPingouin
      @TurbPingouin 2 роки тому

      Pretty sure they said they'll make the game unmoddable music-wise so people can't add the original/proto tracks back

  • @wileecoyotegenius5955
    @wileecoyotegenius5955 2 роки тому +349

    The remastering of the Carnival Night tune totally killed it. They got rid of the classic Genesis stank. The stank man, THE STANK!

    • @ViewpointProd
      @ViewpointProd 2 роки тому +15

      not remastered AT ALL, you're using that word incorrectly

    • @cloudkitt
      @cloudkitt 2 роки тому +21

      Sounds like a GBA port

    • @officialFredDurstfanclub
      @officialFredDurstfanclub 2 роки тому +18

      Literally why even bother. If it doesn’t have that absolutely FILTHY Genesis twang, then don’t even try

    • @JessicaChastainFan
      @JessicaChastainFan 2 роки тому

      I miss the STANK, motherfucker. I miss it hard. That's what made those Zones iconic AF.

    • @MegaMilesprower
      @MegaMilesprower 2 роки тому +1

      The best part of carnival night music? 🥛💥

  • @shattercross
    @shattercross 2 роки тому +4

    I miss the originals but I can go back and experience them anytime I want using emulation. Currently playing though the mode where it presents every game back to back on the PS5 version of Origins. The 3D special stages in Sonic 2 were a nice touch.

  • @SpyHunter89
    @SpyHunter89 2 роки тому +3

    The one thing that always bugged me about those tracks in the originally-released Sonic 3 is how the Act 2 remixes sounded less intense than their Act 1 counterparts -- certain instrument tracks were taken out, for example -- when you'd expect it to be the other way around. If nothing else, I'm glad the prototype soundtrack got that aspect correct.

  • @PrimeValkyrie
    @PrimeValkyrie 2 роки тому +41

    Prototype versions sound better than the "Remasters"

    • @floridanscorpion2006
      @floridanscorpion2006 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed

    • @TelPhi_
      @TelPhi_ 2 роки тому

      @YEP The Ice Cap tracks are the most unfinished ones in the prototype, so that's probably why

    • @Abaw
      @Abaw 2 роки тому

      @The Legendary Sanic yeah, the new ones kinda feel muted especially carnival night

  • @starbro5731
    @starbro5731 2 роки тому +276

    The originals sound so energetic and can really portray the feelings of these zones so well. The new music sounds super bland, like it can fit any random scenario, but just not well

    • @Legomacgamer
      @Legomacgamer 2 роки тому +8

      It's probably because you're used to hearing the original music in the zones, that the prototype ones feel out of place. But i do think they fucked up the proto ones bad.

    • @gabrielgoncalves2763
      @gabrielgoncalves2763 2 роки тому +6

      It's just your nostalgia that got used to the tracks. Theres no such thing as "portraying the feeligs" of the zones.

    • @mherweg
      @mherweg 2 роки тому +3

      I agree. To me, Ice cap 1, 2, and Launch base 2 all sound like variations on the same theme.
      It's just not the same - that first time you pop into Carnival night and that lame ass track plays....it lacks so much energy.

    • @luisenriquemartinezobando8593
      @luisenriquemartinezobando8593 Рік тому

      Las originales son las mejores.

    • @roilo8560
      @roilo8560 Рік тому

      Even the prototype songs sound bad, michael jackson really helped this game's ost lol

  • @BOABModels
    @BOABModels 2 роки тому +4

    The original soundtrack was in the Sonic Mega Collection for the PS2, despite not being on the PC releases in the late '90s.

  • @JuanDude
    @JuanDude 2 роки тому +59

    The new song versions used in the prototype was basically downgraded even more, which honestly disappoints me and could even distrup the feel of the levels

  • @ikuvaito
    @ikuvaito 2 роки тому +37

    Waiting for mods that bring back the original tracks 💿

  • @cupcakess1_two
    @cupcakess1_two 2 роки тому +4

    Carnival night, Ice cap and launch base will never be the same again 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @jagtaggart936
    @jagtaggart936 2 роки тому

    What about the other tracks? Is the Genesis midboss theme still there? How about the ending theme,,

  • @FireStriker_
    @FireStriker_ 2 роки тому +40

    The new tracks sound alright however ice cap got the short straw. I will be looking for a mod to restore IceCap

    • @BreadCroissant
      @BreadCroissant 2 роки тому +1

      Is because some track didn't use YM2612 instrument such as Carnaval Night and Launch Base

  • @Tyree42069
    @Tyree42069 2 роки тому +104

    ....why do I actually like the prototype versions better then the “new” versions? Sure they are essentially the same but I feel like the prototypes had more of the genesis twang to em. The new ones feel like muddy fan remakes. All they literally had to do was add some extra musical notes to the prototypes to make them sound less empty. It’s a shame because I actually really enjoy the beta ost. Somewhat even more then I do the OG ost
    Edit:Lemme make it clear that I don’t hate the OG tracks. I just feel like some of the beta genesis tracks are more catchy like the entirety of carnival night. Still though the OG is great and it’s a shame we couldn’t get them in this release because of some stupid MJ copyrights Or whatnot

    • @25kamul
      @25kamul 2 роки тому +11

      They based it off the shitty MIDIs. Check out the remastered versions from Sonic 3 A.I.R., they sound great.

    • @Tyree42069
      @Tyree42069 2 роки тому +2

      @@25kamul trust me I’ve already seen em and they are pretty awesome. Such a shame this collection couldn’t do the same......hell didn’t they use the genesis sound font to uh well “recreate” the originals. If so then why’d it come out like this? And not something similar or even better then A.I.R’s I just don’t get it. They definitely already knew that people hated the Midi versions but actually liked the genesis tracks so why use the Midi tracks as a reference???

    • @RelaxAlexX
      @RelaxAlexX 2 роки тому +1

      You smoking

    • @Tyree42069
      @Tyree42069 2 роки тому +2

      @Sonic Frontiers Defender understandable. I mean these aren’t......horrible? But for me atleast compared to the OG beta tracks these are somewhat lackluster. Imma still buy the game tho lmao

    • @megaman3433
      @megaman3433 2 роки тому +4

      @Tree1579 I highly disagree. The Prototype music just doesn't sound nearly as good as the original.

  • @louisdellalucca8969
    @louisdellalucca8969 2 роки тому +2

    Carnival Night doesn’t sound like a carnival. You’re telling me that Sega could afford to put a crappy Mickey Mouse game in the first Genesis Mini, but can’t get the license for their music tracks back?

  • @Evangesmellon3plus1
    @Evangesmellon3plus1 2 роки тому +4

    Those tracks really added a lot to the original games and the vibe of those levels, I think I'll stick with emulation

  • @spacechannelg6843
    @spacechannelg6843 2 роки тому +84

    The ice cape zone just destroys my heart ! I still have that song in my mind. I can’t believe the newer generations won’t be able to experience that song. The new songs on the other tracks sound cool . Tbh the ice cape zone new one is not bad it’s just not even close to the original. I’ll find a way to play the old one over this man I’m so sad about that

    • @BladeShadowWing
      @BladeShadowWing 2 роки тому +5

      At least we have UA-cam.

    • @imskyskyhigh
      @imskyskyhigh 2 роки тому +11

      "I can't believe the nrwer generations won't be able to experience that song."
      All Sega Genesis and copies of Sonic 3 did not self destruct in 2005. Also, emulators exist

    • @ZikOfficialYouTube
      @ZikOfficialYouTube 2 роки тому +7

      @@imskyskyhigh Sonic 3 AIR, Sonic 3 Complete, Sonic Mega Collection/+, Modders for Sonic Origins, UA-cam: Allow us to introduce ourselves

    • @HOL457
      @HOL457 2 роки тому +2

      But this IS the original version of ice cap

    • @robinsr4745
      @robinsr4745 2 роки тому +13

      @@imskyskyhigh
      Yeah but sonic origins is basically meant to be the definitive way for new fans to get into the classics meaning their impressions of the games will come from here

  • @vergilcold1167
    @vergilcold1167 2 роки тому +127

    Im gonna miss ice cap zones music it just fitted the level so much

    • @moniqueperkinsmp
      @moniqueperkinsmp 2 роки тому +1

      We will.

    • @TheNawaf258
      @TheNawaf258 2 роки тому

      We all do

    • @cakelayer
      @cakelayer 2 роки тому +2

      No it didn't, it sounds like the opening theme to a 1980s sitcom, not only that, but it feels like they just slapped it onto an existing level, oh wait, thats because they did

    • @SRUFUS3D
      @SRUFUS3D 2 роки тому +20

      @@cakelayer Cope.

    • @jeicelover911
      @jeicelover911 2 роки тому +6

      @@cakelayer “it sounded like they just slapped it on the level oh wait they did” 🤓

  • @6tails6
    @6tails6 2 роки тому +2

    Launch Base and Ice Cap zone, dang man. Man, I really wished they would’ve gotten Hyper Potions or Tee Lopez to produce some hype musics. Hell, i wish the ones from Mania could’ve been used.
    Gone really miss hearing those two replaying it.

  • @nathanlamont9920
    @nathanlamont9920 2 роки тому

    So you are saying stick with emulation or the Steam version?

  • @TheNemisisx
    @TheNemisisx 2 роки тому +63

    I was dreading this. I loved the original ice cap and launch base zone themes, I'm gonna miss hearing those tracks. I can get behind carnival night theme changing but the others are just a heavy loss for me

    • @L1ght_7
      @L1ght_7 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah I think the Carnival Night prototype theme is just better and much more creative than the MJ one, so I don't mind that one being changed. Too bad the final version in Origins sounds so muffled compared to the prototype version...

    • @GodWarsX
      @GodWarsX 2 роки тому +2

      How do they not remake them with the same soul at least? The new tracks are garbagio

    • @DarkAnomaly
      @DarkAnomaly 2 роки тому

      Agreed. Thank God for modders though.

    • @CosmicCosmo1
      @CosmicCosmo1 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@DarkAnomaly How do i get mods on the ps5 version though?

    • @Kryptosii
      @Kryptosii 2 роки тому

      @@CosmicCosmo1 I don’t think you can

  • @windy3935
    @windy3935 2 роки тому +111

    There's an illusion that the new version seems worse, due to the lower volume. Yall should have did something about that.

    • @tawmifm
      @tawmifm 2 роки тому +21

      There is no meaningful volume difference. The new remastered tracks are songs that sound like they were ripped from a flash game

    • @ViewpointProd
      @ViewpointProd 2 роки тому +2

      @@tawmifm they where not remastered.

    • @imskyskyhigh
      @imskyskyhigh 2 роки тому +10

      The Carnival Night newer version def sounds worse

    • @mellon1427
      @mellon1427 2 роки тому +8

      There is no illusion here. The """""remastered""""" versions lack any sort of punch and sound muddy compared to the original proto tracks. Only exception is ice cap which is mostly the same it seems. I can assure that this isn't just due to volume difference.

    • @imskyskyhigh
      @imskyskyhigh 2 роки тому +3

      @@mellon1427 yeah. They totally massacred Carnival Night Zone

  • @ZombifiedDuder
    @ZombifiedDuder 2 роки тому +2

    I certainly prefer Sonic Origin's Carnival Night tracks.
    In fact, the 1997 PC collection was the way I originally played Sonic 3 & Knuckles, so I do have a certain amount of nostalgia for these replacement tracks anyhow.
    It's also cool to get re-done versions of these tracks with the genesis soundfont. I'm guessing they took the MIDI versions from the PC release and converted them.

  • @shadowprincegamer5231
    @shadowprincegamer5231 2 роки тому

    So how are the 6 tracks missing from Sonic Orgins but the games soundtrack was kept in the Genesis Classic Collection of S3&K that released on PS4

  • @seannetworkblogsandgames7504
    @seannetworkblogsandgames7504 2 роки тому +33

    The Jun Senoue versions sound clearer, but also a little more mellow, which is great for listening when you relax, but not for when you're actually playing. I get they were in a tough spot and tried to give us something new to make up for it, but sadly, once Ice Cap was lost, I think the soundtrack was guaranteed to be received poorly no matter what

  • @BradfortBottlenose
    @BradfortBottlenose 2 роки тому +152

    They're good, but, well, I'll always prefer the Ice Cap theme we know and love.

  • @HuigbertsGamed
    @HuigbertsGamed 2 роки тому +5

    I've mixed feelings about these. For me carnaval night zone act 1 was definitely done the most dirty. The original sounded the best, the prototype was pretty good as well, but the new one really ain't it. But to me the launch base zone definitely sounds better in both acts in the new version. For Ice Cap I've mixed feelings as well. The new version sounds better to me than the prototype, but the original probably still takes the cake. But I feel like this is second best.

  • @1un4cy
    @1un4cy 2 роки тому

    How is there a copyright issue to use music that the game itself already owns?

  • @Tkscz
    @Tkscz 2 роки тому +68

    My problem with them is that they sound like they barely use the sound capabilities of the genesis. They sound more like a third party game than something coming directly from Sega. Of course they were prototype songs

    • @Tkscz
      @Tkscz 2 роки тому +9

      @Sonic Frontiers Defender compare it to say Sonic 2 or the rest of the tracks from Sonic 3 and knuckles. They sound incredibly basic for the sound chip

    • @rynobehnke8289
      @rynobehnke8289 2 роки тому +4

      @Sonic Frontiers Defender Even the Sonic & Knuckles collection sounds more "genesisy" if you use a mid 90's Yamaha sound synth (even one that is done in software like the one that came free with Final Fantasy 7 PC)

  • @JiltedValkyrie
    @JiltedValkyrie 2 роки тому +86

    I'll never forget the time I rented Sonic 3 for the first time and got to Ice Cap Zone. That song and level combined blew my mind and have always associated it with that game ever since.

    • @JORDAN23TV
      @JORDAN23TV 2 роки тому +8

      Right. That snowboarding intro is unforgettable. I still remember my first play like it was yesterday.

    • @OYJluv
      @OYJluv 2 роки тому

      💔💔💔💔💔😫😫😫😫

    • @xevious21
      @xevious21 2 роки тому +2

      Same I cranked up my CRTV and jammed it back in the day. That and the Streets of Rage soundtrack

  • @Isaacgonn98
    @Isaacgonn98 2 роки тому

    Wait wait, how did you get the game early? Did it already release?!

  • @primateboogaloo
    @primateboogaloo 2 роки тому

    Did Lee Topes have any input in these remasters? His work on Sonic Mania's soundtrack was wonderful.

  • @nuggetpotato5471
    @nuggetpotato5471 2 роки тому +102

    Seriously?! There was no reason to make them more like the terrible MIDI versions from the S&K collection! They already sounded perfect!

    • @RSN_SGT_RENEWAL
      @RSN_SGT_RENEWAL 2 роки тому +8

      That’s probably because Jun Sonne has ZERO IDEA there even is an prototype with that OST

    • @jeremyknight9980
      @jeremyknight9980 2 роки тому

      I don't know... I like most of it especially Carnival Night act 2 and Launch Base act 2.

    • @nuggetpotato5471
      @nuggetpotato5471 2 роки тому +1

      @@RSN_SGT_RENEWAL I mean stealth mentioned an "FM makeover" so the guy who added the music propably knew about the prototype

    • @hammerbro4782
      @hammerbro4782 2 роки тому

      These tracks came from the same guy who made the Sonic 4 OST and apparently those songs were supposed to emulate the genesis/mega drive games.

    • @jeremyknight9980
      @jeremyknight9980 2 роки тому +9

      @@hammerbro4782 Sonic 4 is easily one of Jun's weakest soundtracks. I was kinda hoping h'ed make original music but oh well.

  • @Styrophoamicus
    @Styrophoamicus 2 роки тому +100

    I would have preferred new tracks that capture the spirit of the originals (the biggest loss is Ice Cap Zone), but if that's the trade-off for finally getting the complete Sonic 3 experience on a modern console, then so be it.
    That said, I do think replacing the songs with the prototype versions is a neat easter egg for an anniversary-style collection.

    • @Wulframe
      @Wulframe 2 роки тому

      Same tbh. That's what I was hoping for but I knew it wasn't a realistic possibility since the Prototype/PC versions exist.

    • @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171
      @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171 2 роки тому

      I was expecting a remix of Ice Cap having different instruments and different rhythm and notes.

    • @D3sdinova
      @D3sdinova 2 роки тому

      Arent sonic 3 and sonic and knuckles backwards compatible on the xbox SX? If so you could play sonic 3 & knuckles on that. They do have the original tracks from what i remember.

    • @GodWarsX
      @GodWarsX 2 роки тому

      Fr it's like they didn't even try

    • @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171
      @thesupervideogamenerdmore3171 2 роки тому

      @@GodWarsX Trying to get the rights to music from singer is difficult and expensive.

  • @larrylaffer3246
    @larrylaffer3246 2 роки тому +2

    Hopefully they get everything settled because it would be nice to have both of these rather than just one.

  • @SiebayPlays
    @SiebayPlays 2 роки тому

    How do you screw up a remaster?

  • @nobody1923and1
    @nobody1923and1 2 роки тому +35

    What I would do is disable the music, so I can hear the sounds, but in the background, I will play the original tracks. In that way, I can still listen to my favorite Sonic 3 zone's music, IceCap! But I think I will do it for CNZ and LBZ too.

    • @ravisdeli5935
      @ravisdeli5935 2 роки тому +1

      Think you can, just go to the settings and lower music volume to zero

    • @ravisdeli5935
      @ravisdeli5935 2 роки тому

      @@Professor_Rock I agree it’s really stuipid

  • @ZikOfficialYouTube
    @ZikOfficialYouTube 2 роки тому +148

    I would've expected the new songs to sound more Genesis and Sonic 3nK style, while keeping their general melodies, and more bass and extra (non-Jackson) sound samples, like the Ice Cap "swoosh", Carnival Night "ch ch" sounds, etc.
    These sound way more PC style and worse than even the proto S3 versions.
    Take SiIvaGunner's CNZ and Mastered Realm's ICZ for example of what they shoulda sounded like.

    • @rynobehnke8289
      @rynobehnke8289 2 роки тому +9

      Even the Sonic and Knuckles collection version doesn't sound this muffled with Windows stock soundfont (let alone with any actual good soundfont).
      I can't believe they messed this so much up.

    • @YujiUedaFan
      @YujiUedaFan 2 роки тому +1

      Apparently the Supersonic music sounds even worse... I wonder if they cut out the unused track.

  • @sharingan5618
    @sharingan5618 2 роки тому

    Is their anyway they can put a patch in the game bringing back the original music if they settle whatever they have to settle?

  • @MegaManNeo
    @MegaManNeo 2 роки тому +1

    I have to admit, I like the beta tracks for Launch Base quite a lot actually.
    The others could have been improved however, that oomph! or woah! feeling that makes them stand out as 16bit songs is missing for me.

  • @PrinceValmont
    @PrinceValmont 2 роки тому +83

    Eeesh... no wonder Sega had avoided answering these questions leading up to the release. As much as I was looking forward to this, the replacement music and the price are what's going to keep me from purchasing Origins.

    • @passion9thedrunkotaku646
      @passion9thedrunkotaku646 2 роки тому +1

      Can’t say I blame ya

    • @luleta1644
      @luleta1644 2 роки тому

      cant u mod the tracks in?

    • @joshschoonover6429
      @joshschoonover6429 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, Sonic Jam still remains the best way to play the four mainline Genesis games. Sound quality was improved over the original releases, you could save your game, and you could play as characters other than Sonic even in the first game. The fact that it has the original soundtracks is definitely icing on the cake.

    • @klusterfuk3688
      @klusterfuk3688 2 роки тому

      @@luleta1644 not on console

    • @luleta1644
      @luleta1644 2 роки тому +1

      @@klusterfuk3688 ohh right...
      those exist ^^""
      my bad.
      was never a fan of the "mods will fix it" attitude but in this case which is just legal bullshit im all for it.
      but yeah idk if u can mod consoles.

  • @sweetpataterz8738
    @sweetpataterz8738 2 роки тому +43

    What the HELL happened there?! I’m in the camp that actually thoroughly enjoys the prototype tracks, I love the Launch Base themes and I actually prefer prototype Carnival Night to the final version. So what in god’s name happened?! I’m speechless. It’s like had these great prototype tracks ready to use, and then Sega just shat all over them and we got the Sonic Origins tracks. How did this happen? Jun Sunoe, I trusted you! And we got THIS?! Forget it, I’m getting the PC version and modding in some actually good music.

    • @Halfway-Stupid
      @Halfway-Stupid 2 роки тому +4

      They really messed up, just like they have been for over 10 years, in all honesty I have lost hope in sonic games...

  • @brownandbloom
    @brownandbloom 2 роки тому +1

    I'm going to miss those 3 tracks. The prototypes just don't quite strike the mood as perfectly as the originals did. Also, the Competition Mode track got replaced as well :(

  • @ZappaSlayer
    @ZappaSlayer 2 роки тому

    Already have a mod for steam version?

  • @GenesisGreen
    @GenesisGreen 2 роки тому +236

    The "remastered" versions kinda sound like a downgrade, especially Carnival Night, but I think it still sounds great

    • @wizard_pirate_9085
      @wizard_pirate_9085 2 роки тому +5

      Their just midi versions

    • @shadowledastray
      @shadowledastray 2 роки тому +5

      Origin's Carnival Night Act 1 music has been stuck in my head all day. The following Act 2 music sounds rough though. Lol
      Does the game's music sound this flat and compressed when actually playing the game?

    • @MIAMI_VIBES_
      @MIAMI_VIBES_ 2 роки тому +1

      Remastered = crap, this is where the Albernic Handheld shines! 😁

    • @arrowghost
      @arrowghost 2 роки тому +1

      Carnival Night's old track to me is no longer about gladiators, it's already more towards the circus. Sonic's case, based on the level & BG design, it looks more like Las Vegas, hence the new soundtrack
      PS : I grew up with the PC version. Didn't had the chance to play Sonic 1 & 2.

    • @eightee7635
      @eightee7635 2 роки тому

      Exactly, I actually really like the prototype Carnival Night....why couldn't they have just used that one???? Like how could you have messed this up 😭

  • @raizen912
    @raizen912 2 роки тому +117

    Man I've never lost so much hype for a game in such a short amount of time. I was hoping the new music wouldn't be that different from the og but it's just not my cup of tea. The music is one of the biggest parts of S3&K for me and them changing it out just kills the whole thing for me. It feels weird to say but I may actually pass on this just for the music. It's really that jarring and bad for me, and I was more hyped for this than for Frontiers. Hopefully they fix it in the future. With dlc or something.

    • @eagc7
      @eagc7 2 роки тому +11

      Don't expect a dlc or something unless they are able to reach an agreement with whoever controls Micheal Jackson music
      At best we'll only get them via mods on PC

    • @GodWarsX
      @GodWarsX 2 роки тому +5

      I totally feel you my man. I know it's only 3 tracks, and it's crazy that it's turning me off from the whole thing... but I cant deny how I feel

    • @bluenitethewarrior9332
      @bluenitethewarrior9332 2 роки тому +2

      This is literally out of Sega control lmao. They wouldn't have changed it if the music wasn't own by Michael Jackson. They had no choice but to make new music.

    • @eagc7
      @eagc7 2 роки тому +7

      @@bluenitethewarrior9332 Exactly, is either that or never re-release Sonic 3 ever again, i am sad these songs arent in it, yeah. but i would rather have them change it if it means i can play Sonic 3 again

    • @raizen912
      @raizen912 2 роки тому +4

      @@bluenitethewarrior9332 I would agree but the new songs just aren't that good. Majority of the people who play this are saying they'd even prefer the prototypes to the versions Jun made. Ice cap zones song, for example, just doesn't match the same feeling the original gave. It's just too happy.

  • @TokyoACR
    @TokyoACR Рік тому +2

    Too bad they can't give folks an option to play with the prototype music or the original genesis music. If that ever becomes a patch in the future, then I'll be buying it.

  • @NiNFan237
    @NiNFan237 2 роки тому

    I'd like to point out that these songs are used in the 1997 PC port called the Sonic & Knuckles Collection. So they were used in an official released game before Sonic Origins but in a PC port that I imagine many people haven't played or possible even know about.

  • @amazinggamermkii1904
    @amazinggamermkii1904 2 роки тому +8

    SEGA just cannot stop taking L's, like come on, HOW DID YOU MAKE THEM WORST???

  • @SaiyanPiratePrince
    @SaiyanPiratePrince 2 роки тому +27

    I do wish they kept the MJ songs. Ice Cap Zone really fell on "Hard Times" too if you get what I mean.

    • @asocos
      @asocos Рік тому +2

      They could not because of legal issues

    • @jeremyriley1238
      @jeremyriley1238 Рік тому +3

      @@asocos Indeed, and at the end of the day, it was either replace the songs that would get Sega into legal issues or not add Sonic 3 & Knuckles into Sonic Origins.

    • @seto_kaiba_
      @seto_kaiba_ Рік тому +2

      Hard Times wasn't MJ's. They just ended up cutting it anyway.

  • @Rhino11111111
    @Rhino11111111 2 роки тому

    Man the ice cap zone music really banged, that music alone brings back so much happy memories.

  • @jayfox4291
    @jayfox4291 2 місяці тому

    So i have a question, so i STARTED my sonic craze on the old PC S3&K collection. I’m extremely fond of THAT soundtrack. But i do know it had a couple like… variations in OST & even SFX based on if you played JUST Sonic 3, JUST S&K or the combined S3&K.
    I’ve lost the disk(s) & now i own all the sonic games on xbox (besides origins or all stars). I’m pretty dis-satisfied with the xbox using a different soundtrack for really… i think the whole game.
    I was wondering what all releases of Sonic 3 & Knuckles use the prototype music instead of the Michael Jackson stuff?

  • @Harrinsain
    @Harrinsain 2 роки тому +59

    Imma be honest, specifically in regards to the prototype tracks, I significantly prefer the prototypes themselves over the remixes in origins, especially Carnival Night, which in origins sounds like it takes more cues from the S&K PC collection, which sounds just awful

    • @YujiUedaFan
      @YujiUedaFan 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah, I hope someone mods it so we get the original proto tracks instead of only the released tracks on the Genesis.

    • @Harrinsain
      @Harrinsain 2 роки тому +1

      @@YujiUedaFan yeah. i was going to buy it on Switch, but now I'm definitely going to be getting it on PC, because I need to mod this out of my ears

  • @Rapboy89
    @Rapboy89 2 роки тому +69

    I still prefer the original MJ tracks from Genesis, but the original prototypes are pretty good, and the updated versions are not bad.

    • @Scorpiove
      @Scorpiove 2 роки тому

      I agree I bet as we play the levels we will get use to them. I'm already liking some of what I hear. I love the originals but what they did is a good solution to a hard to fix problem

    • @MaoRatto
      @MaoRatto 2 роки тому

      I prefer the Sonic 3 PC version or original prototype version due to their sound quality sounds better.

  • @Chaos89P
    @Chaos89P 2 роки тому +2

    Ice Cap and Carnival Night are both big losses in my opinion. If I want them "back," there's always my copy of Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection. Eh, who knows? Maybe those three courses will get their more known tracks back in an update, with the ability to switch between the two?

  • @SoCalKev
    @SoCalKev 2 роки тому +1

    Launch base zone act 1 was def reused in Sonic 3D blast you can hear a bit of the final fight in it!

  • @jimmhlios8430
    @jimmhlios8430 Рік тому

    The original music dlc for ps store is ok with og music for sonic 3?

  • @averyshurts4402
    @averyshurts4402 2 роки тому +10

    The new versions of the prototype music sound almost muted compared to the originals (in some cases)

  • @Sea32x
    @Sea32x 2 роки тому +21

    Ah, nothing like a little bit of modding can help!

  • @AymenZero
    @AymenZero 2 роки тому

    i hate the new ice cap. why did they have to change em? is "hard times" copyrighted or somethin?

  • @YuiHaruhara
    @YuiHaruhara 2 роки тому

    Oh boy, I can't wait to mod in polished versions of the prototype music!

  • @nilok7
    @nilok7 2 роки тому +29

    The new music doesn't feel like it got any love. It feels like its still a rough draft with the levels boosted. The prototypes sound better than the Origins music, while the prototypes feel underdeveloped compared to the classic genesis version.

  • @64ios
    @64ios 2 роки тому +29

    Good thing mods exist. (;

  • @twinborn6028
    @twinborn6028 2 роки тому

    I literally phewed irl when you said at least it's not new music. That makes this bearable due to it being prototype music

  • @nathanevans1382
    @nathanevans1382 2 роки тому

    I don't really mind the changes to Carnival Night Zone and Launch Base Zone, but dear god what did they do to Ice Cap Zone?

  • @agahnim0196
    @agahnim0196 2 роки тому +20

    The new tracks all sound generic... with the originals you can feel the level's theme in the notes... but the new ones sound like they could just be interchanged with one another without making much difference, that's a shame.

    • @TaviiCatniss
      @TaviiCatniss 2 роки тому +6

      ^ they have that generic indie platformwr vibe

  • @Nate9-9
    @Nate9-9 2 роки тому +6

    Ice Cap and Launch Base Zone had a couple of my favorite tracks in the Sonic franchise. This is a shame.

  • @BurnSchulz
    @BurnSchulz 5 місяців тому +2

    Dayum even the prototypes sounded way better than what we ended up with...
    Wtf sega

  • @DenisExgardian
    @DenisExgardian 2 роки тому +2

    The "new" Launch Base Zone act 1 are the best of those... but the prototype version have much more richier instrumentation, and I prefer the prototype ones.

    • @grannyjone
      @grannyjone 7 місяців тому

      They should have used the new Launch Base Act 1 music in Act 2 because the new music in Act 2 is terrible

  • @fumetsusozo
    @fumetsusozo 2 роки тому +20

    I don't like the prototype tracks whatsoever or the remastered versions, I personally find them unappealing. I'll be modding in the MJ tracks back in for the PC version of the game soon as possible.

    • @TheExFatal
      @TheExFatal 2 роки тому +1

      They don't fit the levels at all, I'm not feeling them *at all*

  • @coolguy5133
    @coolguy5133 2 роки тому +11

    The Prototype music will never slap as well as the Michael Jackson tracks.

    • @CheddarVG
      @CheddarVG 2 роки тому

      Yeah, tell that to Carnival Night.

    • @coolguy5133
      @coolguy5133 2 роки тому +3

      @@CheddarVG Carnival Night was the slappyiest slapfest to ever slap.

    • @mane8751
      @mane8751 2 роки тому

      true

    • @CheddarVG
      @CheddarVG 2 роки тому

      @@coolguy5133 The Entry of the Gladiators remix isn't bad, but I personally prefer the prototype music.

    • @coolguy5133
      @coolguy5133 2 роки тому +2

      @@CheddarVG Well we can't always be a fan of things that fit the best.

  • @JohnDoe-dv6zb
    @JohnDoe-dv6zb 2 роки тому

    At least they made use of the Sonic 3 beta music. Used to have the Sonic & Knuckles Collection for PC. Brings back memories hearing these tracks again.

  • @CharlesMosley129
    @CharlesMosley129 Рік тому +1

    i noticed that recently. as a lifelong Michael Jackson fan, i am aware of his contributions and was offended to hear of their replacement. i thought this was their "cancelling" him. but i understand the whole "clearing the rights" thing. i just wish they had got Tee Lopes to knock it outta da park like he did with "Mirage Saloon Zone" Stage 2 in Sonic Mania. in hindsight, Sonic is in best form when running around to funky New Jack Swing tracks.