Retired firefighter here. We don't just sit around waiting for a "shout". We get tied up with so many other secondary activities these days......and no, not snooker......it's not as depicted in "London's Burning"......at least in my former brigade!! If we're on station and not engaged in training, generally we'd be mobile in under two minutes. I don't want to speculate here but I have never attended a conventional car fire as fierce and prolonged as that. Either it had a bloody big fuel tank or it was an EV or hybrid......either way, that was a show stopper!!
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Will only get worse with Council's blocking all the roads to traffic by putting planters in the roads. 🇬🇧
Dirty councils who did this. The lives they cost through ambulance delay, fire brigade delay, police delay, as well as all the fines against local people.
Unfortunately stations will close as fire people get paid more money. The more you pay in wages the less staff you can afford. Schools are looking at AI to take classes and everything thing from police to the army is shrinking because of the wage bill.........
@@BlairAndrews-h7b for the most part I'm not sure stations are closing. Where I am we have more stations opening than closing. UK fire service probably don't do themselves any favours as most won't respond to EMS calls for some bizarre reason, meaning they become less important. I'm a firefighter myself so I don't like the idea of station closures, but the unions have to stop being obstructive to progress and change
Most emergencies are voluntary they are dotted about 24/7. That way they can attend and warn people to back away. Before emergency crew arrives. My local fire department has these schemes throughout the year. Especially during the Christmas period as everywhere gets busier.
@md2320 Yeah fancy that people wanting more than a subsistence wage. Yet no one questions why the number of MPs and managers in the Civil Service never decreases in proportion.
Good catch, it illustrates that fire spreads very fast and it seems like ages until the crew gets there but they did arrive quickly if they were called straight away less than 10 minutes 🚒👍
If you listen to the transcript of this conversation from start to the point you can hear sirens it was about 3 minutes till they rolled up with water on which is good going
Invariably they overestimate the response time. “They took 20 minutes to get here” Then a review of the dispatch records and the radio transmissions shows it was more like 5 min. It seems like an eternity when you’re under stress.
What happens in these instances is, partly because of the cuts to public services - including massive cuts to finding of the Fire and Rescue Services in the country, responses to fires and such are sometimes delayed. An example - if the nearest fire station is already out on a call, the next nearest fire station has to be mobilised, which takes more time. Some areas don't have their own fire stations anymore, which again causes crews to travel further. What also happens in these instances sometimes is people get so shocked and suprised with what is happening, they start watching and filming instead of phoning the fire brigade - obviously in this video here the people filming phoned the brigade, so hats off to them, but even so sometimes it takes time for people to realise what is happening. All of this adds time, fire spreads quickly, it can take all of 5 minutes, maybe less, for a vehicle like this to be fully englufed, again depending on the distance of the incident from the fire stations mobilised, that could be the travel time for the crews. So whilst it is frustrating, it isnt the fire service's fault, or the Police or Ambulance services fault that there are delays to emergency responses, it is unfortunately a fact of life that there are time delays, there is not a neverending line up of resources and they are stretched very thinly in the UK in some areas!
@@scooby1992 maybe if the UK fire service did what they do in USA, France, and other countries across Europe/the world and respond to EMS calls, they would be seen as less expendable 🤷. I'm a firefighter myself so I don't like to see stations closed or posts lost but it's a simple fact of life in these circumstances. The unions have to stop being so obstructive to progress and change
If you watch fire fighters in the US, they spend 10 minutes watching it on scene before they get water on it! Our guys arrive and don't hang around. They do a great job 👏 👍
Yes its called a dynamic risk assessment, where is fuel, electricity, gas etc there is a reason for that in the u.s but at least they have proper water hoses instead of garden hose, my hosepipe bigger than what they were using
I disagree with that comment about American firefighters. I’m A retired firefighter 48 years service, civilian and military. The departments I was one were quick to get hose lines into service and start doing the job. There are rare times when we would slow down to evaluate what we needed to do and if additional resources were needed. But never did it take 10 minutes as alluded to
@@andrewmidgley296🤣 you don't know what you are talking about do you lol. Dynamic risk assessment is just that, dynamic, not standing about watching. British firefighters use a very robust method for decision making and incident command. One which has been adopted by fire services around the world, including the USA. Your comment about the hoses just goes to show how ignorant you are 🤣 just because it doesn't seem like a lot of water is coming out that doesn't mean it isn't. They use highly sophisticated branches which means the water under high pressure comes out in smaller droplet particles, thus having a greater cooling effect. Might want to check what you are talking about before gobbing off 🤣
@@andrewmidgley296All about size in America, those are just the quick deployment hoses while the lager ones will need a water hydrant connection. As you can see the the “garden” hoses are very effective with car fires.
Anyone complaining about the fire & rescue service should be ashamed. All the emergency services police, fire & ambulance do an amazing job with the finite resources they have available to them. Maybe if the people complaining stopped & thought about how the savage budget cuts to such vital services have now impacted the response times etc. how about we come up with a new model of restoring some of that funding so they can actually do something about it.
@@anakinskywalker4113 maybe if the UK fire service did what they do in USA, France, and other countries across Europe/the world and respond to EMS calls, they would be seen as less expendable 🤷. I'm a firefighter myself so I don't like to see stations closed or posts lost but it's a simple fact of life in these circumstances. The unions have to stop being so obstructive to progress and change
@@professorminstrels6460 I’m from Melbourne Australia. We are expanding our fire & rescue services year on year. We just recruited an extra 1000 additional full time firefighters. Firefighters here turn out for everything from CPR persons not breathing road, accidents & of course fires etc. we have a standard response time of 7mins from time of dispatch. We get penalised if we fail to meet the target.
@@professorminstrels6460 No you are totally wrong. There is no excuse for this sort of response. The firefighters look like they need a lot more training to be anywhere near safe.
Fire brigade have to drive to the incident and they could be coming from another station or shout hate when people moan about them not being there instantly
Thank you for sharing, it was frighteningly informative of how quickly that fire spread for one, and how much worse it could of been if the fire crew hadn’t got there when they did, and thank goodness nobody was hurt 💜🌸🇬🇧
Fire crews did really well got water on within a few seconds of arrival and when they noticed the car full of fuel wasn’t being extinguished they got foam onto it. Even managed to contain the running fuel fire in the gullies heading towards the van.
The fire service spot on tackling the fire in less than a minute of arrival. I did get a headache looking through a crack in the window, I suppose the videoer’s TV is the same!!
@@arthurfaulkner8620that's a fuel fire it wasn't an EV fire which is why they deployed the foam to smother the fuel flare up as the stolen vehicle was carrying extra fuel cans. Foam would not put out an EV fire as the lithium generates it's own oxidation and as you know is extremely difficult to extinguish.
Would have been a good video but honestly the complaining about the cire brigade taking ages is just ridiculous. They've been through savage cuts since 2010, fire stations closed, less fire crews manning the stations that are left how about directing your anger towards those responsible for the cuts instead of criticising a job that feel the exact same frustrations as you! It even says on the side of their fire engine to join up be part of the solution instead of complaining and hoping someone else sorts it out.
Wow whatever happened a four for one deal for the firies, good to see they were all over it once they arrived. They do a cracking job under the circumstance of being woefully funded, due to cuts.
Most times they can put out a car fire with water, it’s rare that they have such an issues and I wonder whether the car owner was carrying additional fuel.
They did eventually. Water is fine 99% of the time but in this case foam was needed and had the best effect. It does depend though on how much each appliance carries as it varies considerably from 1/2 25litre drums up to a 100 litre tank. My pump has a 100litre tank plus 2 x 25 barrels (though this is a different foam in the barrels)
@@RushfanUK By the way vehicle in middle of the road was burning and kept reigniting, it's likely it was an EV. When lithium-ion batteries overheat into a thermal overload state and then catch fire, they generate their own oxygen. It's just one of the many things global dictatorships, sorry governments are omitting to advise us of as they force us into EV ownership. If it was an EV, when you add the pollution cased by the fire to that already caused when making the batteries. I doubt this EV ended up being environmentally friendly after all 😂
Don't forget, at the last inspection Avon FRS was one of the worst in the country and rated 'Inadequate'. Most disturbing being the toxic culture in the service. A very poor service and it shows in the video.
Check to see if your fire department is volunteer or full time and that may help you determine a response time also if it was fuelled by gasoline they needed foam a lot sooner my reasoning behind this is my son is a firefighter here in Ontario Canada and he has been watching this with me!!
Yes it was a freak of nature if by that you meant the unnatural freak ability of man made Lithium EV batteries to incinerate everything around an EV uncontrollably at greater spead with greater temperatures reached more rapidly to create a greater burn radius than any equivalent size petrol or diesel vehicle would 😂
Christ knows fuel was in the central car because it just wouldn't go out but it shows how quickly a fire can spread... great job by the fire crews 👍 ..
Firefighters intervened with water, water is an electrical conductor, the foam was a problem, the generation of electric cars, they need a coolant during the fire, just to protect environmentalists, but I'm not the one who makes the rules, electric cars should have a special fire extinguisher with battery cooling in the fire house !
By the way vehicle in middle of the road was burning and kept reigniting, it's likely it was an EV. Lithium-ion batteries when on fire generate their own oxygen. And that's the problem, as to put out a fire, you need to cut off the oxygen supply. Sill, I'm sure It's one of the many things the global soft dictatorships, sorry governments will 'fix'! If it was an EV, doubt it ended up being that environmentally friendly after all😂
Having worked as a part time Airfield fire crewman many years ago, it amazes me that with the increased number of car fires at present, they still fight obvious fuel fires with water. We were trained to use water to see how to cool areas, but it's like chucking water on a chip pan fire....💥 We had to use foam to extinguish the fire really fast. You could then go on protecting and cooling with water around the area. I can't see why they don't now carry or deploy foam tenders in the first instance when it's a known car fire. It has incredible knock down capability and starves the fire of oxygen limiting opportunity for re ignition. Water cools the area surrounding and can protect crews by creating a shield. But it doesn't effectively fight any liquid fuel fire.....as perfectly demonstrated here !! By the way, I think your wonderful commentary may just go viral!! 😂😂❤
Is it to do with the fire fighting foam causing pollution with it containing forever chemicals, running into the water course? Is using foam a last resort for the fire service? I do like fire fighting foam but unsure what the future is for it. They are banning AFFF foam fire extinguishers, I don't think there are many so called environmentally friendly fire fighting foams out there. But putting that aside foam is a very good extinguishing agent. Just not good for the environment or us humans
@@JamesPorter87 Hi and thank you for your reply. Yes, I do understand that issue. We used a horrid animal protein based foam for our training on the airfield as AFFF was very expensive and yes....not great for one's health if exposed to a lot of it for prolonged periods. But so far, it has not readily been surpassed for knockdown power with fuel fires and the amount used versus the pollution and huge damage caused to the road infrastructure and other property while the fire continued to burn quite intensively while they battled to use water, might still provide an argument for its use. They said they would ban the cfc laden special extinguishers at airfields back in the late eighties and so far as I remember.....they continued to remain in service as there was nothing to replace them for their specific application in fighting certain types of aircraft fires. That may well have changed by now....I've been out of the game for a good many years now! Anyway, let's hope they do come up with better tech than stirring up running fuel fires with just water. It really isn't the best thing to use and takes, as you see, forever to get close to controlling a vicious and persistent blaze. The other huge challenge the Fire and Rescue service now face, is of course lithium ion battery fires.....now they really are nasty!! 🫣💥
By the way vehicle in the middle of the road kept reigniting, it appears this was likely to have been an EV. When lithium-ion batteries overheat into thermal overload state and catch fire, they produce their own oxygen supply as they burn. Guessing the fire crew can only use what they're given.
@@lawrencemartin1113 Careful making negative statements about lithium-ion batteries, when commenting on this video. You might as I did, attract an accusation of being biased against EV's.🤣 The world has been developing and using ICE vehicles on mass for over 116 years. That's a lot of R&D experience. The world's first EV vehicle produced in any volume, was GM's EV1 in 1996 (approx. 1200). It wasn't until about 2012 that EV's were beginning to sell in anything approaching large volumes (global sales of 100,000). The world's soft dictatorships, sorry governments, have now mandated, that as from 2030 new ICE's will start to be banned, less than 15 years on from the first large volume numbers EV's. Madness! The world is exchanging one environmental crisis for another. There are numerous, alternative, much cleaner fuels that can be used in ICE's. Most, if not all ICE's, will end up having no value and be prematurely scrapped (and adding to landfill, non recyclable waste etc.). in the 1990's we we told petrol was bad, diesel was good and we're offered £ incentives to buy diesel or convert petrol to LPG. Although the LPG incentive was soon dropped, even though it has the lowest emissions of them all! By mid 2000's we we're told diesel is bad in cities and towns, so LE zones were introduced🤔 Not a good track record so far! The current propaganda we're being fed by the world's soft dictatorships is that humans are causing climate change and, or global warming. That just isn't true (but very effective generating fear and mass compliance) Humans are accelerating certain aspects of it. Climate change is part of planet earth's evolution, we cannot stop it. I think EV's are great, I've driven them. However, I feel this enforced, rapid change to EV use, is very high risk one, in an attempt to reduce global CO2 emissions by about 10%
@@tjdUK I couldn't agree more! The disaster that awaits the planet as the direct result of producing lithium ion batteries in vast and ever increasing quantities is going to be devastating for the ecology of many, many fragile habitats. We are destroying vast areas of the planet even faster and in new ways so far not seen or properly assessed. It's crazy. All driven by messed up skewed politics and the incentive for governments to profit in a massive way from the robbery of a millennium. Shocking and shameful. To be honest, without humans, the plant will do just fine. It's really time we all shuffled off really. 😁
He probably did test it. The hand gesture he used for "water on" is standard across the UK fire service. You'd know that if you are/were a firefighter. You only ask for water on when you are actually about to start fighting the fire
@@professorminstrels6460 Incorrect, the branch should be working before you get to the fire. We now test branch’s next to the pump operator, that way we are never in a situation where you need water but are also in harms way. What they showed here is that they had not tested their branches but wanted water on when they reached the car - this should be basic stuff.
@@Mattyzetec1 did you not read my comment ? I clearly stated that he likely did test it beforehand. He then gave the gesture for water on, which is standard across UK fire and rescue services. Again, you're clearly not a firefighter
@@professorminstrels6460 “water on” is a gesture to the pump operator to let him know you want water. If the branch was tested before hand then he wouldn’t have had to use the “water on” Signal. He would already have water ready. I’ve been a UK firefighter for 7 years - you obviously have things slightly confused.
I’m guessing the car that refused to go out must have been a hybrid as the battery was the part that wouldn’t go out and produces its own oxygen so water and foam won’t out it out. The best way to control this would have been a specialised fire blanket designed for electrical fires. It only contains the fire till it burns itself out.
Now that must be a electric driven car... A high pressure hosereel will put 1 to 2 cars out in minutes. The effects ive seen are some thing ive never seen before. Especially when a foam jet is put to work.
You’re right; I could easily tell it wasn’t an EV fire from the video, as it went out too “easily”. I’ve seen real EV fires, and there’s times you have to dig a hole, fill it up with water, and drown the EV in it to finally extinguish the fire. They’re brutal, and extremely hard to put out. It takes so much water due to how highly reactive the metals in the battery are.
@@oober2004 As one of those who stated that it might be an EV, it's because intensity of the fire and continued reigniting, is very much what happens when lithium-ion batteries are on fire. So if that's bias, then guilty as charged. Perhaps I'll also get to be accused of being right wing? As for being told to accept change. I'm almost old enough to remember the outcome of people on mass being told to just 'accept change' and that was by the NSDAP. So maybe I'm not right wing after all.
My suspicion is that is an electric vehicle fire?! The fire was low down where the drive batteries are located!! Petrol or diesel vehicles have their tanks normally towards the rear of the vehicle and the fire service will usually use water to extinguish them as the water takes away the heat from the burning fuel!! Electric car batteries are Lithium Ion and it doesn’t matter how much water you put on them they carry on burning as it’s a chemical fire!! Another reason not to purchase an electric vehicle!! The authorities will cover this up as it goes against the narrative!! Leave electric vehicles where they belong back at the factory!! Just remember everyone we are all being misled. Electric vehicles will not save the planet as they will never ever pay back the amount of carbon used in their manufacturing process compared with a petrol of diesel vehicle. Also currently the electricity used to charge them will almost definitely be generated by burning fossil fuels. Big con job by globalists and governments don’t be taken in!!!
@@kevinbennett437 Thanks for pointing that out. I didn’t mean it to sound like a sermon and yes I should have read the description in more detail. I just have a fear of electric vehicles and how quickly they can combust. I’ve seen too many during my travels and I feel people should know about the risks??!! Thanks for pointing out my mistake. God bless.
Judging by the intensity of the fire and why the fire what's so big and intense I reckon the car that started to blaze was a electric car an as a result of this they are extremely hard to put out once they catch a light I just hope everybody was safe in this and safe and well and as for the fireman they were amazing they got the flames out with a matter of minutes a true testament to the fire service
The downside to this happening is that your road will have a scorchmark on it for the next year or two, lets just hope this doesn't cause a pothole to form because if it does you have zero chance of getting it filled 🤪🤣😅
It's not petrol running down the street. If it was, it'd be alight. Vehicle in middle was likely an EV, as it kept reigniting. Lithium-ion batteries can and do go into a state of 'thermal runaway', then explode, catch fire and when on fire, generate their own oxygen. As we're forced into only being allowed to own EV's, don't be surprised if this is a more common sight.
When this country is over-run by cheap crappy Chinese electric cars we will have to park in the nearest river. Luckily, because of global warming and increased annual rainfall, this won't be a problem.
Interesting comment there which I think you're slightly wrong on my friends petrol needs article to burn once you smother it with water and spray and cut off ice and it will go out but unfortunately these idiots who insist on having electric cars don't seem to realise it's a firmer runaway and you can put all sorts of stuff on now and that will keep burning that includes phone as well so I suspect that electric car was gone up in flames it's not petrol and it's not diesel let me know let me know if it was 100% electric car which I suspect it was😂❤
Our firefighters do know what they're doing, unlike US ones who send an aerial ladder to a car fire (??) , and spend ages scratching their heads and finding a hydrant!
@@sugarbertie1143 Obviously they don't know! You don't use water and foam together because the water dilutes the foam and makes it useless. Well senseless....
@@sugarbertie1143we send aerials to vehicle fires because sometimes they have pumps on them, which gives them another hose line to operate from, especially if they’re the closest unit to the fire. Secondly; if they can’t pump; the manpower on our aerials is used to support the engine company in extinguishing the fire. Nice try bashing us though! FYI; I’ve never spent ages looking for a hydrant. Either there’s one by us that we can hookup to, or there isn’t. Either way we do our best with the tank of water we have. If we need more water and there’s no hydrant we just call for another unit, or draft water if that is an available option.
They don’t just appear out of thin air they have to get through the traffic plus cars go up really quickly
Exactly, it takes time to get there they are on the road in 30-60seconds
Nearest fire station is 0.9miles away.
@@nikskin30Assuming all the engines are sat in there and not on another call...
Retired firefighter here. We don't just sit around waiting for a "shout". We get tied up with so many other secondary activities these days......and no, not snooker......it's not as depicted in "London's Burning"......at least in my former brigade!! If we're on station and not engaged in training, generally we'd be mobile in under two minutes. I don't want to speculate here but I have never attended a conventional car fire as fierce and prolonged as that. Either it had a bloody big fuel tank or it was an EV or hybrid......either way, that was a show stopper!!
Will only get worse with Council's blocking all the roads to traffic by putting planters in the roads. 🇬🇧
Dirty councils who did this. The lives they cost through ambulance delay, fire brigade delay, police delay, as well as all the fines against local people.
Because of government cuts they keep closing stations so they have to come from further afield. They get there ASAP love
Unfortunately stations will close as fire people get paid more money. The more you pay in wages the less staff you can afford. Schools are looking at AI to take classes and everything thing from police to the army is shrinking because of the wage bill.........
@@BlairAndrews-h7b for the most part I'm not sure stations are closing. Where I am we have more stations opening than closing.
UK fire service probably don't do themselves any favours as most won't respond to EMS calls for some bizarre reason, meaning they become less important.
I'm a firefighter myself so I don't like the idea of station closures, but the unions have to stop being obstructive to progress and change
The nearest fire station is 0.9miles
Most emergencies are voluntary they are dotted about 24/7. That way they can attend and warn people to back away. Before emergency crew arrives. My local fire department has these schemes throughout the year. Especially during the Christmas period as everywhere gets busier.
@md2320 Yeah fancy that people wanting more than a subsistence wage. Yet no one questions why the number of MPs and managers in the Civil Service never decreases in proportion.
Serious fire with a least 3 fire engines in attendance. Well done to the firefighters and a superb video
Good catch, it illustrates that fire spreads very fast and it seems like ages until the crew gets there but they did arrive quickly if they were called straight away less than 10 minutes 🚒👍
0.9miles from nearest fire station
@@nikskin30 Which may already be on a call...
@@joelwhitaker2274Good to see people with good knowledge in here.
If you listen to the transcript of this conversation from start to the point you can hear sirens it was about 3 minutes till they rolled up with water on which is good going
People what complain about the fire service not being able to get there quick time need to get a grip
Especially if the fire appliance has to come from further afield
Invariably they overestimate the response time. “They took 20 minutes to get here” Then a review of the dispatch records and the radio transmissions shows it was more like 5 min. It seems like an eternity when you’re under stress.
Unfortunately due to cuts and stations being closed and pumps off the run means that response times have increased drastically
@@pj66410.9 miles to nearest fire station
All emergency services should be made aware not just the fire service. These people who saves people's lives don't get the credit they deserve.
What happens in these instances is, partly because of the cuts to public services - including massive cuts to finding of the Fire and Rescue Services in the country, responses to fires and such are sometimes delayed. An example - if the nearest fire station is already out on a call, the next nearest fire station has to be mobilised, which takes more time. Some areas don't have their own fire stations anymore, which again causes crews to travel further.
What also happens in these instances sometimes is people get so shocked and suprised with what is happening, they start watching and filming instead of phoning the fire brigade - obviously in this video here the people filming phoned the brigade, so hats off to them, but even so sometimes it takes time for people to realise what is happening. All of this adds time, fire spreads quickly, it can take all of 5 minutes, maybe less, for a vehicle like this to be fully englufed, again depending on the distance of the incident from the fire stations mobilised, that could be the travel time for the crews. So whilst it is frustrating, it isnt the fire service's fault, or the Police or Ambulance services fault that there are delays to emergency responses, it is unfortunately a fact of life that there are time delays, there is not a neverending line up of resources and they are stretched very thinly in the UK in some areas!
Since 2010 the UK fire service has lost 1 in 5 posts
@@scooby1992 maybe if the UK fire service did what they do in USA, France, and other countries across Europe/the world and respond to EMS calls, they would be seen as less expendable 🤷. I'm a firefighter myself so I don't like to see stations closed or posts lost but it's a simple fact of life in these circumstances. The unions have to stop being so obstructive to progress and change
@@professorminstrels6460 Yes fair point .
If you watch fire fighters in the US, they spend 10 minutes watching it on scene before they get water on it! Our guys arrive and don't hang around. They do a great job 👏 👍
Yes its called a dynamic risk assessment, where is fuel, electricity, gas etc there is a reason for that in the u.s but at least they have proper water hoses instead of garden hose, my hosepipe bigger than what they were using
I disagree with that comment about American firefighters. I’m
A retired firefighter 48 years service, civilian and military. The departments I was one were quick to get hose lines into service and start doing the job. There are rare times when we would slow down to evaluate what we needed to do and if additional resources were needed. But never did it take 10 minutes as alluded to
@@andrewmidgley296🤣 you don't know what you are talking about do you lol. Dynamic risk assessment is just that, dynamic, not standing about watching. British firefighters use a very robust method for decision making and incident command. One which has been adopted by fire services around the world, including the USA. Your comment about the hoses just goes to show how ignorant you are 🤣 just because it doesn't seem like a lot of water is coming out that doesn't mean it isn't. They use highly sophisticated branches which means the water under high pressure comes out in smaller droplet particles, thus having a greater cooling effect.
Might want to check what you are talking about before gobbing off 🤣
@@andrewmidgley296All about size in America, those are just the quick deployment hoses while the lager ones will need a water hydrant connection. As you can see the the “garden” hoses are very effective with car fires.
gobbing off 🤣 woke
Anyone complaining about the fire & rescue service should be ashamed. All the emergency services police, fire & ambulance do an amazing job with the finite resources they have available to them. Maybe if the people complaining stopped & thought about how the savage budget cuts to such vital services have now impacted the response times etc. how about we come up with a new model of restoring some of that funding so they can actually do something about it.
@@anakinskywalker4113 maybe if the UK fire service did what they do in USA, France, and other countries across Europe/the world and respond to EMS calls, they would be seen as less expendable 🤷. I'm a firefighter myself so I don't like to see stations closed or posts lost but it's a simple fact of life in these circumstances. The unions have to stop being so obstructive to progress and change
@@professorminstrels6460 I’m from Melbourne Australia. We are expanding our fire & rescue services year on year.
We just recruited an extra 1000 additional full time firefighters.
Firefighters here turn out for everything from CPR persons not breathing road, accidents & of course fires etc. we have a standard response time of 7mins from time of dispatch. We get penalised if we fail to meet the target.
@@professorminstrels6460 No you are totally wrong. There is no excuse for this sort of response. The firefighters look like they need a lot more training to be anywhere near safe.
Fire brigade have to drive to the incident and they could be coming from another station or shout hate when people moan about them not being there instantly
Battery Fire ??? 3000c⁰ to 5000c⁰ ...
Did you actually read the description?
Thank you for sharing, it was frighteningly informative of how quickly that fire spread for one, and how much worse it could of been if the fire crew hadn’t got there when they did, and thank goodness nobody was hurt 💜🌸🇬🇧
Fire crews did really well got water on within a few seconds of arrival and when they noticed the car full of fuel wasn’t being extinguished they got foam onto it. Even managed to contain the running fuel fire in the gullies heading towards the van.
The fire service spot on tackling the fire in less than a minute of arrival.
I did get a headache looking through a crack in the window, I suppose the videoer’s TV is the same!!
No they didn't the ev took longer to put out you cannot put a ev out with water.fact.only foam or smothering it.
@@arthurfaulkner8620that's a fuel fire it wasn't an EV fire which is why they deployed the foam to smother the fuel flare up as the stolen vehicle was carrying extra fuel cans. Foam would not put out an EV fire as the lithium generates it's own oxidation and as you know is extremely difficult to extinguish.
Helmet not done up on the oic and who is he with his hands in his pockets ...standards 🤔
Would have been a good video but honestly the complaining about the cire brigade taking ages is just ridiculous.
They've been through savage cuts since 2010, fire stations closed, less fire crews manning the stations that are left how about directing your anger towards those responsible for the cuts instead of criticising a job that feel the exact same frustrations as you!
It even says on the side of their fire engine to join up be part of the solution instead of complaining and hoping someone else sorts it out.
Damn that was one stubborn fire, the fuel tank must have been totally full....
People dont understand when you call is 30-60seconds to respond it takes time to get there they are driving not flying
8 times they had to ask for water on the hose reel. Shocking
Wow whatever happened a four for one deal for the firies, good to see they were all over it once they arrived.
They do a cracking job under the circumstance of being woefully funded, due to cuts.
The need for firefighters will grow each year exponentially as we use more and more electric vehicles .
Electric vehicle and hybrid vehicles are hard to put out
There using foam foam mixes with water through a special nozzle
Also they use sea containers, they put vehicle in and after that it will be filled with sand
Would it have been better to spray foam instead of water?
Foam cant always be immediately delivered, and sometimes its not carried on appliances
Most times they can put out a car fire with water, it’s rare that they have such an issues and I wonder whether the car owner was carrying additional fuel.
They did eventually. Water is fine 99% of the time but in this case foam was needed and had the best effect. It does depend though on how much each appliance carries as it varies considerably from 1/2 25litre drums up to a 100 litre tank.
My pump has a 100litre tank plus 2 x 25 barrels (though this is a different foam in the barrels)
@@RushfanUK I you read the post the car was stolen and full of stolen petrol cans .
@@RushfanUK By the way vehicle in middle of the road was burning and kept reigniting, it's likely it was an EV. When lithium-ion batteries overheat into a thermal overload state and then catch fire, they generate their own oxygen. It's just one of the many things global dictatorships, sorry governments are omitting to advise us of as they force us into EV ownership. If it was an EV, when you add the pollution cased by the fire to that already caused when making the batteries. I doubt this EV ended up being environmentally friendly after all 😂
Don't forget, at the last inspection Avon FRS was one of the worst in the country and rated 'Inadequate'. Most disturbing being the toxic culture in the service. A very poor service and it shows in the video.
They only arrive in a flash on tv. Real life is surprisingly not like tv
So down to the actions of 2 idiots, the car they stole has been destroyed and 3 other innocent people/families have had their cars destroyed aswell
Total respect for the men and women that keep all of us safe and put their own lives at risk to do so xx
I don't see how anyone can have any respect for these crews.
Lithium burns under water. The fact that they extjnguished the other cars quickly, but not the original car, demonstrates this.
It’s not electric nitwit
Did you actually read the description?
Check to see if your fire department is volunteer or full time and that may help you determine a response time also if it was fuelled by gasoline they needed foam a lot sooner my reasoning behind this is my son is a firefighter here in Ontario Canada and he has been watching this with me!!
Going to have more these with more EVs. Not saying the car that went up is an EV, but an EV fire is 2500C not 600C for an ICE fire.
😂😂😂😂 lmao you are so miss informed
Yes it was a freak of nature if by that you meant the unnatural freak ability of man made Lithium EV batteries to incinerate everything around an EV uncontrollably at greater spead with greater temperatures reached more rapidly to create a greater burn radius than any equivalent size petrol or diesel vehicle would 😂
Christ knows fuel was in the central car because it just wouldn't go out but it shows how quickly a fire can spread... great job by the fire crews 👍 ..
Gosh, these people moan about EVERYTHING. I wonder why they are still living there if everything is so incredibly awful!
They had to resort to using AFFF
It's called CAFS (compressed air foam system)
The heat from the fire must be around 8 thousand degrees plus I studied fire investigation and sciences
8,000 degrees?!? Yeah I’m not sure about that one!! I sure don’t think I’ve ever been at a fire that hot. Maybe take away a 0 and you’d be closer.
The mini explosion are air bag cylinder
Silly cow
Was it an electric vehicle or hybrid by any chance
From the description of the video, I'd hazard a guess of no... No it wasn't. Good grief 😂
What the hells that car made of magnesium,,it won't go out 😮
It literally says in the description that it's a petrol car carrying stolen petrol 😂😩
Looks like electric car fire they put the petrol ones out in seconds . The future looks bright
Looks like a Petrol car fire.
That is not so. That is petrol that they can't put out, not until they (eventually) put some foam onto it.
Definitely an electric car, dangerous uncontrollable fire
@@slubbberdegulliondefinitely not a bev, it's an ice, do you lap up 'big oils' properganda, or do you create it.
Perhaps try reading the description...... if you can. @@stephenhowe568
Heat transfer causes other things to combust
Could only go by what you could see, good coverage though.
You cannot put out a battery until it has expended all of its energy.
I've got to resurface that road again, god some people can be so selfish.
Firefighters intervened with water, water is an electrical conductor, the foam was a problem, the generation of electric cars, they need a coolant during the fire, just to protect environmentalists, but I'm not the one who makes the rules, electric cars should have a special fire extinguisher with battery cooling in the fire house !
By the way vehicle in middle of the road was burning and kept reigniting, it's likely it was an EV. Lithium-ion batteries when on fire generate their own oxygen. And that's the problem, as to put out a fire, you need to cut off the oxygen supply. Sill, I'm sure It's one of the many things the global soft dictatorships, sorry governments will 'fix'! If it was an EV, doubt it ended up being that environmentally friendly after all😂
The heat from the exhaust wouldn’t have sparked the fire as there is a heat shield that surrounds the exhaust to prevent this.
The biggest crime here was filming in portrait aspect.
That was no ordinary car fire. I wonder what was in that car😮
That was a running fuel fire. The fuel tanks are plastic nowadays, so melt and the fuel contents flood out and ignites
Batterys ev car not petrol.
@@arthurfaulkner8620Did you not read the description. The car contained open cans of stolen petrol. The thieves ran off after the fire started
Yes and there was a flying aliens watching to.reports will tell you anything there trying to sell ev.s take a look at the fires in China on ev.s.😂😂
@@arthurfaulkner8620 Read the description. I mean, so desperate... Good grief 🤣🤣🤣🤣
No freak of nature, freak of EV’s
NOT an EV..
The panic in her voice because the fire brigade weren't there instantly to save a hedge. Peak middle-class English.
Having worked as a part time Airfield fire crewman many years ago, it amazes me that with the increased number of car fires at present, they still fight obvious fuel fires with water. We were trained to use water to see how to cool areas, but it's like chucking water on a chip pan fire....💥 We had to use foam to extinguish the fire really fast. You could then go on protecting and cooling with water around the area.
I can't see why they don't now carry or deploy foam tenders in the first instance when it's a known car fire. It has incredible knock down capability and starves the fire of oxygen limiting opportunity for re ignition. Water cools the area surrounding and can protect crews by creating a shield. But it doesn't effectively fight any liquid fuel fire.....as perfectly demonstrated here !!
By the way, I think your wonderful commentary may just go viral!! 😂😂❤
Is it to do with the fire fighting foam causing pollution with it containing forever chemicals, running into the water course? Is using foam a last resort for the fire service? I do like fire fighting foam but unsure what the future is for it. They are banning AFFF foam fire extinguishers, I don't think there are many so called environmentally friendly fire fighting foams out there. But putting that aside foam is a very good extinguishing agent. Just not good for the environment or us humans
@@JamesPorter87
Hi and thank you for your reply. Yes, I do understand that issue. We used a horrid animal protein based foam for our training on the airfield as AFFF was very expensive and yes....not great for one's health if exposed to a lot of it for prolonged periods. But so far, it has not readily been surpassed for knockdown power with fuel fires and the amount used versus the pollution and huge damage caused to the road infrastructure and other property while the fire continued to burn quite intensively while they battled to use water, might still provide an argument for its use. They said they would ban the cfc laden special extinguishers at airfields back in the late eighties and so far as I remember.....they continued to remain in service as there was nothing to replace them for their specific application in fighting certain types of aircraft fires. That may well have changed by now....I've been out of the game for a good many years now! Anyway, let's hope they do come up with better tech than stirring up running fuel fires with just water. It really isn't the best thing to use and takes, as you see, forever to get close to controlling a vicious and persistent blaze.
The other huge challenge the Fire and Rescue service now face, is of course lithium ion battery fires.....now they really are nasty!! 🫣💥
By the way vehicle in the middle of the road kept reigniting, it appears this was likely to have been an EV. When lithium-ion batteries overheat into thermal overload state and catch fire, they produce their own oxygen supply as they burn. Guessing the fire crew can only use what they're given.
@@lawrencemartin1113 Careful making negative statements about lithium-ion batteries, when commenting on this video. You might as I did, attract an accusation of being biased against EV's.🤣 The world has been developing and using ICE vehicles on mass for over 116 years. That's a lot of R&D experience. The world's first EV vehicle produced in any volume, was GM's EV1 in 1996 (approx. 1200). It wasn't until about 2012 that EV's were beginning to sell in anything approaching large volumes (global sales of 100,000). The world's soft dictatorships, sorry governments, have now mandated, that as from 2030 new ICE's will start to be banned, less than 15 years on from the first large volume numbers EV's. Madness! The world is exchanging one environmental crisis for another. There are numerous, alternative, much cleaner fuels that can be used in ICE's. Most, if not all ICE's, will end up having no value and be prematurely scrapped (and adding to landfill, non recyclable waste etc.). in the 1990's we we told petrol was bad, diesel was good and we're offered £ incentives to buy diesel or convert petrol to LPG. Although the LPG incentive was soon dropped, even though it has the lowest emissions of them all! By mid 2000's we we're told diesel is bad in cities and towns, so LE zones were introduced🤔 Not a good track record so far! The current propaganda we're being fed by the world's soft dictatorships is that humans are causing climate change and, or global warming. That just isn't true (but very effective generating fear and mass compliance) Humans are accelerating certain aspects of it. Climate change is part of planet earth's evolution, we cannot stop it. I think EV's are great, I've driven them. However, I feel this enforced, rapid change to EV use, is very high risk one, in an attempt to reduce global CO2 emissions by about 10%
@@tjdUK
I couldn't agree more! The disaster that awaits the planet as the direct result of producing lithium ion batteries in vast and ever increasing quantities is going to be devastating for the ecology of many, many fragile habitats. We are destroying vast areas of the planet even faster and in new ways so far not seen or properly assessed. It's crazy. All driven by messed up skewed politics and the incentive for governments to profit in a massive way from the robbery of a millennium.
Shocking and shameful.
To be honest, without humans, the plant will do just fine. It's really time we all shuffled off really. 😁
Walks up to the fire and asks for water on 🤣. Test your branch before get in the risk area bro
He probably did test it. The hand gesture he used for "water on" is standard across the UK fire service. You'd know that if you are/were a firefighter. You only ask for water on when you are actually about to start fighting the fire
@@professorminstrels6460 Incorrect, the branch should be working before you get to the fire. We now test branch’s next to the pump operator, that way we are never in a situation where you need water but are also in harms way. What they showed here is that they had not tested their branches but wanted water on when they reached the car - this should be basic stuff.
@@Mattyzetec1 did you not read my comment ? I clearly stated that he likely did test it beforehand. He then gave the gesture for water on, which is standard across UK fire and rescue services. Again, you're clearly not a firefighter
@@professorminstrels6460 “water on” is a gesture to the pump operator to let him know you want water. If the branch was tested before hand then he wouldn’t have had to use the “water on” Signal. He would already have water ready. I’ve been a UK firefighter for 7 years - you obviously have things slightly confused.
@@Mattyzetec1 no sorry you are incorrect. If you are a firefighter you can't be a very good one 😂
I’m guessing the car that refused to go out must have been a hybrid as the battery was the part that wouldn’t go out and produces its own oxygen so water and foam won’t out it out. The best way to control this would have been a specialised fire blanket designed for electrical fires. It only contains the fire till it burns itself out.
Now that must be a electric driven car...
A high pressure hosereel will put 1 to 2 cars out in minutes.
The effects ive seen are some thing ive never seen before. Especially when a foam jet is put to work.
It's a fuel fire not electric
I mean, reading the description no.. no it wasn't. So desperate. Good grief 😂
The amount of people here desperate for it to be an EV in order to confirm their bias is hilarious. Bless their cotton socks. Accept change.
You’re right; I could easily tell it wasn’t an EV fire from the video, as it went out too “easily”. I’ve seen real EV fires, and there’s times you have to dig a hole, fill it up with water, and drown the EV in it to finally extinguish the fire. They’re brutal, and extremely hard to put out. It takes so much water due to how highly reactive the metals in the battery are.
It’s lucky it wasn’t an EV fire.
@@oober2004 As one of those who stated that it might be an EV, it's because intensity of the fire and continued reigniting, is very much what happens when lithium-ion batteries are on fire. So if that's bias, then guilty as charged. Perhaps I'll also get to be accused of being right wing? As for being told to accept change. I'm almost old enough to remember the outcome of people on mass being told to just 'accept change' and that was by the NSDAP. So maybe I'm not right wing after all.
Guess most comments here don’t read the description 🙄
My friend dog watching it he needs a job in the fire service
Annoying woman. Do you think there’s a fire station sited around every corner. Think again. They will get there as soon as they can believe me.
Surely nick or Sydney tate would have had bluewatch using foam from the very start.
Looks like an EV fire
How dreadful. I hope All those living in Bristol are safe and well.
All those living in Bristol.. They don't all live in one street 😂
Fire men and women are awesome aren't they! 😊
Car that caused the fire is definitely dodgy.
The car that burnt the longest time behaved like a fuel tanker on fire , must have been alot of gasoline in that car 🤔
It was ev.in middle of road fact.
@@arthurfaulkner8620era un coche eléctrico, ardían las baterías.
Says in description that car was carrying open containers of stolen fuel in boot. It wasn't an EV
Why didn't they phone you when you got in touch.
HUMAN INTERACTION IS CRITICAL.....
TALK TO PEOPLE.
PLEASE EVOLVE...
Chicago fire is a great show I like it but this is real.
My suspicion is that is an electric vehicle fire?! The fire was low down where the drive batteries are located!! Petrol or diesel vehicles have their tanks normally towards the rear of the vehicle and the fire service will usually use water to extinguish them as the water takes away the heat from the burning fuel!!
Electric car batteries are Lithium Ion and it doesn’t matter how much water you put on them they carry on burning as it’s a chemical fire!! Another reason not to purchase an electric vehicle!! The authorities will cover this up as it goes against the narrative!! Leave electric vehicles where they belong back at the factory!! Just remember everyone we are all being misled. Electric vehicles will not save the planet as they will never ever pay back the amount of carbon used in their manufacturing process compared with a petrol of diesel vehicle. Also currently the electricity used to charge them will almost definitely be generated by burning fossil fuels. Big con job by globalists and governments don’t be taken in!!!
You've taken the time to write a whole sermon, but could have saved wasting your effort if you'd only read the video description.
@@kevinbennett437 Thanks for pointing that out. I didn’t mean it to sound like a sermon and yes I should have read the description in more detail. I just have a fear of electric vehicles and how quickly they can combust. I’ve seen too many during my travels and I feel people should know about the risks??!!
Thanks for pointing out my mistake. God bless.
Judging by the intensity of the fire and why the fire what's so big and intense I reckon the car that started to blaze was a electric car an as a result of this they are extremely hard to put out once they catch a light I just hope everybody was safe in this and safe and well and as for the fireman they were amazing they got the flames out with a matter of minutes a true testament to the fire service
Read description
Did she just hang up on 999.😮
The future is electric vehicles, right
Chicago Fire would be on scene in 10 seconds truck 81 squad 3 ambulance 61
Your first EV fire i see lol Great footage.
.... And you're making it up.
Lucky there weren't any 'Green Vehicles ' involved...
They would be there for day's...
Took some doing to put that car out. Jesus, just wasn’t for being put out at all
Fire and theft insurance? But who'd want to nick it when it's on fire!!? 😅
The fire on the ground is caused by the fuel leaking from the tank that's caused it spread
The cause of the fire was a lightning bolt
Fire crews are risk assessing 👍
That's not petrol it's lithium batteries
Someone premium will go up next year, 3 or 4 totally destroyed, conifer hedge gone, the road will want resurfacing,
Looks like an EV fire. Yet another reason I'll never own one
The downside to this happening is that your road will have a scorchmark on it for the next year or two, lets just hope this doesn't cause a pothole to form because if it does you have zero chance of getting it filled 🤪🤣😅
Wah ngeri juga kebakarannya... salam dari indonesia kawan
If they are firemen I’m a Dutchman
Wow how many fire fighters are in this chat 😅 i must be the only civilian in here who knows fuck all about fighting fires
Police will be at your door asking for your video
NO EV vehicle. It is petrol fire. You see it running down the street.
Yes unlike older cars that had metal fuel tanks modern plastic tanks cause this
No it was a ev the two cars parked at the kerb where a petrol and a diesel cars the one in the road was a ev.
It's not petrol running down the street. If it was, it'd be alight. Vehicle in middle was likely an EV, as it kept reigniting. Lithium-ion batteries can and do go into a state of 'thermal runaway', then explode, catch fire and when on fire, generate their own oxygen. As we're forced into only being allowed to own EV's, don't be surprised if this is a more common sight.
😂 Do they still slide down poles?
When this country is over-run by cheap crappy Chinese electric cars we will have to park in the nearest river. Luckily, because of global warming and increased annual rainfall, this won't be a problem.
Straight streams defy logic and common sense.
That woman 😅 god help you mate!!
Stop oil not glued to the floor .😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Uber eats, slightly overdone
Let me guess?! It was an EV car?!?!?
Y tv crews when you 2 are there😂
Years of Government Cuts !!!!
See descriptions for details 🤣
Interesting comment there which I think you're slightly wrong on my friends petrol needs article to burn once you smother it with water and spray and cut off ice and it will go out but unfortunately these idiots who insist on having electric cars don't seem to realise it's a firmer runaway and you can put all sorts of stuff on now and that will keep burning that includes phone as well so I suspect that electric car was gone up in flames it's not petrol and it's not diesel let me know let me know if it was 100% electric car which I suspect it was😂❤
@@stephenmorley5289 it was a car full of petrol. Read the description
Guys... wtf!? Is there no foam in GB? Oh yeah.. looks like you have. But then.... use foam or water only... but not both at the same time. 🤔🙄
Our firefighters do know what they're doing, unlike US ones who send an aerial ladder to a car fire (??) , and spend ages scratching their heads and finding a hydrant!
@@sugarbertie1143 Obviously they don't know! You don't use water and foam together because the water dilutes the foam and makes it useless. Well senseless....
@@sugarbertie1143we send aerials to vehicle fires because sometimes they have pumps on them, which gives them another hose line to operate from, especially if they’re the closest unit to the fire. Secondly; if they can’t pump; the manpower on our aerials is used to support the engine company in extinguishing the fire. Nice try bashing us though! FYI; I’ve never spent ages looking for a hydrant. Either there’s one by us that we can hookup to, or there isn’t. Either way we do our best with the tank of water we have. If we need more water and there’s no hydrant we just call for another unit, or draft water if that is an available option.
@@sugarbertie1143lol!!!
@@markbenelli7569yeah it flared up again as they sprayed all the foam away😂