Why 70% Of Super Troops Are USELESS...
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- Опубліковано 24 гру 2024
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Super witches and rocket loons are very strong. The reason why it’s so low is due to the high skill needed to perform it well. The are used in esports and champ 1 cwl. They are very meta there, but the vast majority of the players prefer spam
My th12 account lowkey solely depends on them for trophies
Yeah, im aware of that, this video is about the ones that don’t get used though
Reason is 25k dark elixir.There ain't no skill in touching your phone screen and dropping a rocket loon at a desirable location.Most f2p players can never max their heroes.But i hope addition of minion prince will change everything but still attacking without warden is the shittiest thing about coc.I just shifted to a coc mod called nulls clash and im enjoying it cos everything is already maxed and people are truly equall.
@@Lonewolf123go couple of things, 25k for me is not a lot, I’m on vacation right now so I can’t even play that much. I’m getting about 2-3 attacks in per day, with star bonus and war bonus I’m averaging about 30-40k dark per day. I don’t know where you get the misconception that rocket loons are low skilled. If that was the case everyone would be spamming it, but I only see it in high cwl and the occasional war. If it was low skilled than the use rate would be a lot higher. I get for the lower town halls 25k is a lot, but you can easily farm that if you pop sneaky gobs and put 5-6 on 3 dark pumps and get away with 3-5k dark every attack. As stated above a lot of super troops are strong it just takes a bit more skill to maximize its value. I will admit, valk, bowler, ice hound, miner, inferno drag and a couple others are kinda irrelevant. Those do need reworks to make then more competitively viable but super witches and loons are fine as it is
@@JacobClashes the thing is you can’t determine the strength of a troop based on the use rate in ladder, most people in ladder tend use the troops that are easier to use. Root riders, hydra metas that are dominating the latter right now, sure they are strong without a doubt. They are more so used because in ladder bases are random so it’s kinda one size fits all sort of attack. When it’s war and you can plan I think that’s when different strategies and troops come into play. I do admit that certain super troops are irrelevant but there are certain regular troops that have faded into irrelevance as well (golem, bowlers, witch, miners, pekka), there will be highs and low.
I feel like the super goblin being popular explains it. Nobody wants to actually strategize, just lazily spam lol
Thats real
At higher trophies and cwl super troops are used. Also i personnaly use super troops not just because they're strong but because it's more fun to actually strategise to make good attacks instead of spamming like a no brainer
I think there are a few main reasons that some of the super troops have such low use rates.
1. The 25k DE cost. I think this is tolerable, but for a casual clasher who does just their daily star bonus and maybe a war attack or two, this is a pretty major sink. Personally, I feel like they should add different durations to unlock the super troop for, costing different DE amounts, as well as make the cost a little lower. I feel like if we had options like 2k DE for 2 hours, 5k DE for 10 hours, 10K DE for 1 day, 20K DE for 3 days and 35K DE for 1 week, usage rates in general would go up.
2. The 2 super troop limit. Because of the hard limit on the number of super troops that you can have unlocked, a majority of players are funneled into using the most useful ones, where Super Wallbreakers and Sneaky Gobs dominate for funneling and farming reasons. There is also the obvious aspect of if we let everyone use how many ever super troops they want, it would become a balancing nightmare for SC. So personally, I think for TH11/12, There should be 2 super troop "slots" that you can use, then for TH13/14/15 there should be a limit of 3, and finally for TH16/17 there should be a limit of 4. This would encourage super troops to be used a lot more.
3. Finally, some of the super troops are pretty underwhelming, and need reworks or buffs to compete in the meta imo. I think the clearest example of this is super giants and super valks, which both have the lowest use rates not just of super troops, but troops in general in the game. This is because of usage difficulties, or not a well enough defined niche. I have a lot of rework or buff ideas for a good chunk of the super troops, but that probably warrants a much longer write up that I'm not sure anyone would be interested in.
Edit: Super Witches are among the strongest troops in the game right now, atleast for TH12-15. I can regularly use super witch smash and three star maxed bases a full TH above mine with decent regularity.
I dont really think most super troops really need a buff. I think the overall clash of clans community is just too bad to use them in a good way. Lets take rocket loons hero charge as an example. Its just way too complex for people to use but rocket loons are super balanced. Super Witches also take skill and so on. Super Giants, Valks and Ice Hound and Inferno Dragons get rarely used, but i dont see why every troop should get used in general. Every other super troop has a use case.
The problem is honestly 50 % COC players are stupid dragon spamers..because they don't have skills..yeah some super troops are bad..
real
I wouldn't say dragon spammer means not skilled. It depends on their hit rate. Using dragons to perfection takes a lot of skills.
Dragon spam is easy to learn. Yeah it is a skill but it is too easy to be a skill. I have my own clan with 10 accounts in it. I used all different kinds of attack. Now i have 84 win streak. Whenever i have dragon user to my clan, i kick them immediately. For me they have low skill kind of player.
@rosellerabian4081 What clan is it? If your players don't have good legends finishes I'll make a personal visit and let them know their place.
As a near maxed TH13, the only super troop I use are the Super Dragons. High health and damage, and can help absorb some of the damage from those pesky Inferno Towers.
super drags are heat
@@JacobClashesno pun intended
super witch smash is just so good... but idk why I don't use it anymore
w vid :)
Yeah a lot of people keep mentioning super witches in my comments maybe I underrated them
@JacobClashes big boys are badass..
they touch defenses
Super witches are strong, tf are you on?
This video is about the usage rates, not individual strength of super witches😂
@JacobClashes damn, my bad I thought there was a USELESS word in the title.
@@Xenon77x super witches are in the 30% that actually get used, the title of the video is 70% of super troops are useless, Critical thinking is required😭😭 which you seem to lack
Damn dude you didn't need to roast him-
@JacobClashes man, please care to rewatch your own video where according to you some originals troops and better than their super version, mentioning Super Witches.
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I was just having a quick look through comments, interesting vid and a lot of ppl in comments talking about SWitches/RLs and I am 6k trophies this season and often get attacked by super troops, SWitches/SDragons. Some are really strong and dont need buffs. I myself have used both SWitches and RLs as attacks in the past legend league seasons and those attacks can be very strong but require extremely high skill. I think supercell said they were doing a rework or change to how super troops would work but if they're not than its definitely something they should look into. I think most super troops probably don't need a buff
There is no shortage of Dark elixir in higher Town Halls, I have been using Rocket loons instead of normal ones
yeah i said there was a DE Surplus due to the updates lowering the costs
Super witches/ Rocket loons/ Hydra / Root riders all i see in legends 5500-5900 and root riders almost always include super barbs super troops are basically in every attack
Ice hound isn't bad, it provides more health for a higher housing space and gives a freeze on death, it's worth it for the housing space, super witches and loons are very strong though
Ice hound has a permanent spot in my balloon spam.
Some of those troops are used in cc and everyone's just 1 gem them if needed without boosting
True
Super hogs seem to be decent at th15. They're tanks enough to not die faster than I can drop the heal spell. Pair it with the overgrowth spell and bam. I have good pathing
Didnt super hogs get nerfed?
I think if they turn super giant into royal giant it will be a lot better.
super giant need a change bad tbh
"But the skew is MASSIVE. Like MASSIVE right now"
MASSIVE
Sneaky gobs and super wll breakers are just too useful to get the other ones... Like i can farm loot with it or snipe townhalls for like what? 30 housing or less? So it's great for rapid trophy pushing.... And then we have the other super troops 💀 like damn they suck in comparison...
The only decent super troops(archer, barb, rocket balloon, witch, hog, wizard) since they can offer good value when used correctly
There's a reason as to why i sold all of my super potion (I'm Th10 and about to be Th11)
The only super troops I can't find use for are super giant, valkyre, miner and bowler.
All the other super troops I know how to use.
super bowler smash though😏
Not useless. Just skill issue.
@@medievalbear22 so true man
sneakys n r good for farming, funnelin n sbarbs for funnelin too swallbreakers r in almost every attack, super drags n witches are meta, rocketloons r strong, icehound is good in sui lalo, super minions are good in cc with siege or flameflinger, super hogs are used in twin hogs still n sometimes in cc while attackin and super bowlers r solid strat still
I am 3 staring th 15 from th 14 with superwitches 😊😊
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I still use super drags in my main army 😂
Super drags are actually one of the only super troops i trained for trophy pushing Theyre very strong but got nerfed a lot 😔
Maybe I have skill issue, But in my opinion, regular dragons are much better than super dragons. With regular dragons I can get 3* 90% of the time, but with super only like 60% of the time (th15)
@koxukot yeah, I use both in my attacks. I only started playing clash at the start of the haaland event (I'm like 3/4 through th12 rn) but I've known about it for like 6 years
? Who uses normal witch after th 13 super witch plus completely differently either way it's an entire archetype.
I only boost Goblins and Wall breakers 😅
I would use them more if it wasnt for the 25k dark elixir for single use. I personally just use s.wall breaker, s.barbs and witches
So, the Supet Miners don't get touched that much?
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Super giants are worse root riders super miners have the same dos and hp as 4 miners so it's pointless. The rest are pretty good main reason is they cost dark elixir still even though normal troops are free now.
idk Superwitches have made a comeback I Stiil use it been using superwitches since th14 and still use them at th17
super witches have proved to be meta at times
2:50 ht
0:10 YES
I can answer in two words. Housing space.
Real
Superwitches are strong actually
this is 90% of my comment section right now
4:40 he said that they should make the ice hound the same housing space as a regular lava hound. If that were to happen, might as well just not have the lava hound
30 and 35 aren’t the same number 😔 I think u got ur math wrong man
The ice hound and rocket ballons are used, I euse them in my army
Nice
can you share the army and strat
@@rowanstree8499 6 drag 12 loon 1 ice hound 3 dragon riders with giant arrow magic mirror, spicky ball and vampstache, eternal time and fireball , rocket spear and seeking sheild with 2 quake 1 rage 1 freeze and rest lightning in cc also with rocket ballons and stone slammer in cc
Use giant arrow to snipe 2 air defence with a inferno then zap quake the inferno and aur defence use rc alone to take eagle or monolith with rocket spear and ling should be ahead of queen to tank as she damages the inside buildings then create funnel on other side by spreading dragons then warden, loons, stone slammer and dragon riders, then ice hound it will go in faster to tank for loon then when th attacks or multiple target inferno near th use warden ability it will remove nearby defences making your army take townhall and 3 starring the base
I spammed superdragon zapquake since th12, now I am th15. Still an air menace
i stopped using them after the 2-3 nerfs they got
@@JacobClashes yeah they feel underpowered fr
I have never used super troops and I am going to be th 13 in 2 days (I have gotten donations super troops but I haven't made them)
some of them are worth it
Sneaky goblins have been nerfed so many times.. They are so slow now
No they are not
@@user-xl4tp5ef1w ok buddy.. you are obviously an NPC BOT!! Do you even play COC bro?
W vid as always, they are just too expensive in my opinion
Cost to reward ain’t it for some troops
does bro even play the game??? or is he just th11
bro didnt watch the video
Uh he legit said he was th15
You should learn different attack so you know how strong the super troops are. Super witch, twin hogs, super dragons, super archers, rocket loons- they are strongs if you know how to use them. Maybe you use dragons only since townhall 7 until th 15.. Try different attacks brother.
5:59 massive?
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he is talking abt that low taper fade
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My favorite is super dragon
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i use 2 suoer dragons andn 8 dragons for attack it reLLY crush the base
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man i use rocket loons cuz of fireball strat
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what abt wall breakers 😩
They get touched 24/7😏
who cares anyway. whether they buff super barbs. no one will dare to use it. so your suggestions and all are pretty pointless. just increase the days of activation, that should be fine.
no the point of the video 😭
All facts bro
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