Driving the 2020 Porsche 911 Carrera (992) on a wet race track: Does wet mode work? TECH REVIEW
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
- MotoMan heads back to Spain to drive the 2020 Porsche 911 Carrera. - the Porsche 992, but this time, on a wet racetrack to find out if the new Porsche ‘wet mode’ is a gimmick or actually useful. Along the way, he presents a TECH REVIEW of the 2020 Porsche 992, focusing on all of the changes that impact driving dynamics and the coming electrification of the 8th generation Porsche 911, the Porsche 992 . . . #PorscheWeek
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Refreshing to see some actual technical info on the car instead of the steady regurgitation you see in every other review 👍🏻
You are on every 992 carrera video 🤣 not enough videos about this amazing and affordable machine eh?
🤣 #covidlife
I just leased that car for a few days and I in love with it, for me, best permanence car on the market, PDK is amazing! Love it!
Enjoyed the video, thank you. I have a 991.2 C2S with PDK which is simply an exceptional gearbox. I drive that car in ‘manual’ mode wherever I can but for a daily driver or urban crawling it is so nice to be lazy and the PDK is almost telepathically changing gear where I would anyway, particularly when you push the car harder. Now to clear my name I’m lucky enough to own a beautiful 964 C2S manual and I have to say when I get out of that after a spirited drive I have a smile on my face that the 991 simply can’t deliver. So as a UK resident I fit into the European 5% but if I only have one choice I’d have a manual without hesitation as good as the PDK is. Good on you Americans for your 20% score - that’s an impressive stat. Anyway, enjoying your work. Well presented, factual, funny and professional.
I drove a manual 997 S for 5 years, daily driver in city traffic. Loved it and and I've ordered a manual 992.
Pdk, in my 991.2 GT3. Absolutely love it.
Very saddened by the idea of the gas motor in the 911 going away
I've owned and driven manuals for years. First new car: 71 Fiat Spyder. I've driven the PDK on tracks and have fallen in love. Definitely the PDK. Great vid.
As a weekend car, definitely manual. As a daily driver, probably PDK.
You had amazing private access to do your filming, making it very special for the viewers. Additionally, your technical discussion of the car’s improvements is just great, very interesting and informative. You should have 10X your current subscribers; so many car guys are just missing out. To your question, dealing with SoCal traffic daily, I’d get the auto trans.
Thank you for the great feedback . . .
I live in New Jersey and I just ordered a 2022 911 Carrera S with a manual transmission in Shark Blue. I purchased my first Porsche 911 base Carrera 12 months ago in Gentian blue. At the time I felt I was lucky enough to own a 911 in the first place and felt getting a manual was out of reach since I had to upgrade to an S which was about $20K more. Turns out I was very unhappy driving a boring automatic and wished I had a manual. As luck should have it I was fortunate enough to trade in my base 911 for only $3K less than what I paid for it after owning it for 12 months and driving 6000 miles. I can't tell you how excited I am to be getting a manual and it being an S is a huge bonus. Truthfully, if the base 911 was manual I would not have even considered a Carrera S since the base 911 is fast enough. To me, a sports car is not a sports car unless it has a manual transmission.
From the US and have been coveting and luckily owning manual transmission Porsche’s for 35 years but both Porsche’s sitting in our garage today are PDK’s and we love them. As much as it pains me to admit, I don’t find the PDK to be any less engaging. Is it different? Absolutely. Is one better that the other? That’s very subjective. However, I’ve not totally abandoned the manual, I’m eyeing a couple of options in a late 70’s, early 80’s 3.2 Carrera that will satisfy my inner manual loving tendencies but any new Porsche in my future will be a PDK, it’s just that good!
USA PDK is so good, I have both and would keep the PDK over the manual. Great insight, I agree how does this guy not have more subscribers.
Im actually planning to order this So you know its a manual. But to answer your question about the manual/EV's. OMG LOVE IT. I went to a car show and saw a guy there in a converted Probe GT to an EV keeping the 5MT. I asked how he did it, he said it wasnt hard but works just like a normal 5MT. Getting the same effect on the EV drive. He said it was great fun. Now ive never ridden it personally but it sounds perfect. Just do that. Plus you would have the option to just go into drive. WHICH is a transmission ive been screaming for years. 3 pedals on the floor stick on the consol for full manual driving plus the option to just stick it into drive. THAT is the holly grail and the only way to keep that alive.
Manual, California. Predictable, I suppose. If there was electrification involved I would wish the electric motor had 7 forward gears as well, instead of the single-gear setup most of them seem to run. It would also be cool if like in the McLaren P1 the electric motor sent torque to the wheels during your gearshifts.
Nice video, does it sound any different than a 991.2? Or louder?
Can't say that it is.
never owned an auto but I think the 992 will be my first auto car
What about my G2 pamamera PDK, it is noisy and cranking like chainsaw ? Anyone have this problem and have solutions for that ?
I can’t afford to buy one new, but I’ve been looking at used ones with a manual. To me, there’s no point in getting one without a manual
If you can't afford to buy one, how do you know the difference between manual and PDK? I own one of each and each has its merits.
If you are still looking at the used ones, I can tell you the price hardly has dropped. The value retention is high for Porsche 911s as you're not the only one in the world wanting to buy second hand.
Secondly, most owners will never sell till the warranty runs out and that's where you take up the liability of replacing old and worn parts.
For German cars, it's better to buy them first hand and off load them in the short term 2-4 years.
i know I'm pretty off topic but do anybody know of a good site to watch new series online?
@Julio Ty I would suggest FlixZone. Just google for it =)
@Deacon Braydon Yea, been using FlixZone for years myself =)
I’m going to get a manual and a PDK, the best of both worlds. No one can deny how good the PDK is.
Question about electrification....are they going to a performance hybrid model or are they looking to do a total EV car? Because if it's an EV car, then I'm wondering how could it still be a 911 since it's unlikely the car would be a true rear engined vehicle, which is kinda the point (otherwise everyone would just get a Boxster/Cayman. As for manual vs. auto, I always go auto since my legs are too long to deal with a third pedal for more than five minutes.
Whats the cross-over arms, say 04:15? I was trained never to do that ...a very vulnerable position.
From Spain, my perfect 911... a manual GT3 Touring (No PDK option) with 4 seats.... perhaps the next 992 GT3 Touring ???
Great channel !!!
At 70 years old I pick pdk.... I'm done pumping clutches. And am now more than used to Adaptive Cruise Control that comes with PDK and not manual sorry from the UK 🙃
I’m tempted to get rid of my current Turbo S for one of these. Curious to see the trims that will carry 3 pedals.
I prefer pdk, from the U.S. Part one and two of this series were great. I loved all the technical details and cutaways.
I’ve owned a 1986 944, 2006 997.1& a 991.1 all in manual trans. Until I traded in my 991.1 for a 2019 M5 Competition, I was planning on ordering a 992 with PDK next year. I live in Wisconsin. Love manuals, but just like that the DCT’s are so much quicker from a standstill start.
I currently have the 991.2 in PDK. Really wish it was manual and will definitely wait for the manual 992, likely 992 2nd gen. Would be very interested to see how they manage to fuse electric with the stick.
I would have to drive both before I decide, but there are factors at play for me, like will it be my primary/daily car? or secondary/weekend one?
I too very curious to see how they're gonna pull that off.
Excellent work as always, M!
Cannot wait for the 4S to drop to around 100k in about 18-24 months. Great car but a little too expensive new. Great review as always.
I think it's amazing that Europe is buying a lower percentage of manual 911s after so many years of smugness in every comment section. Combine that with Germany's best selling sports car being the Mustang. It all brings me joy.
Its because of their love for F1...paddle shifting...
@@ScottR10 No. It is because of their love for smugness. I take it that you are new to internet comment sections. Europeans have always blamed automatic transmission sports cars on Americans. Typical comment : "You inbred Americans are ruining the 911". That was when PDK was new. They said Porsche had to make it for Americans that don't know how to drive a manual.
PDK FOR SURE.. I want the car to be as fast as it can be.. full stop.
I grew up driving manual cars but for the past 10 years I’ve been driving autos. While I get how much more relaxed the driving experience is with an auto, if you truly love driving forget the auto. Unless this was my daily driver and I lived in the city, I’d be waiting for the manual (which means that the turbo and turbo S wouldn’t be my choice). Another great video motoman.
helicopter weewee you might be right about that, turned 52 in January. Still miss the engagement of a good manual.
OK, I'm gonna say it : please get a camera capable of >1080p resolutions. People are watching your stuff on 4K HDR-enabled smart TVs now.
I have driven manuals all my life or about 13 years since I hit legal driving age. I live in a city where traffic is an issue and bumper to bumper traffic can be found beyond peak hours at times.
I would buy the PDK.... If I could afford a 911 ; )
Maky M buy a Corolla for that bumper to bumper if it's that tough for you, and get a manual for when you went to actually drive. I've been driving in Toronto every day for 30 years and never had an issue driving a manual. The only times I'm annoyed are when I drive the one automatic I've ever owned, and is a DSG.
@@joxer wow...
I don't know how Toronto traffic compares but I'm mighty impressed you haven't tired of the manual shift after 30 years of constant clutch 1-2-1-neutral-1-2-1-neutral.
I guess to each his own buddy ; )
@@Maky313 Yeah even on an especially bad congested drive I've never felt like I've done 'leg day' afterward. That said when I taught my niece standard (she's a strong athlete) I didn't factor in how specialized the clutching action is and I spent so much time getting her to practice that part that she ended up with her left leg too shaky to continue ;-). I shortened that part a LOT when I taught my daughter and it went better.
@@joxer lol nice story ^_^
I’ve driven manuals all my life and I love them. I daily a manual mk7 and it’s perfect. Now the funny thing is that my 997.2 tts is pdk and I love it! Carving canyon s at pace and shifting gears with those paddle shifters! It changes gears so fast, so responsive and does not miss the beat ever! I feel a manual transmission on this car will cripple its performance. Would a manual be more engaging? I don’t think so. My brain is focused on driving the s&$#t out of it rather than the heal and toe. With that said.... I love that Porsche still gives us the option for a manual, eventually I hope to be able to own both flavors!
I plan to buy a Turbo S. If I were buying a 911 S or 4S, I would order a PDK. Faster, better mileage and I have owned a Cayman S with PDK for 3 years. Simply a better transmission. It is way better than I am. I live in Vancouver BC.
I’ve had a 991.1 Cab manual and a 991.1 GTS PDK. Both fantastic transmissions but the manual is the only way to go for me. In fact, the car I really love driving is my manual 996.2.
Will DEFINITELY buy a Targa with a manual transmission, back here in Canada. It will be my third one in a row, and I don't plan on settling for an automatic until I hit my seventies, at least. Unless they stop making them, which means I'll have bought my last Porsche...
Your videos are great Mr. Moto thank you sir. I've had an '05 and and '09 911 both manual. That said, the PDK is pretty amazing. I enjoyed a '13 Audi RS5 with auto and loved that machine.
That's so nice Review
You deserve at least 1 million subscribers!!!!
Thank you!
I totally agree
For any Porsche reviews motoman tv is the best.
Nick Murray is the next
Would be nice if the description or title mention "Carrera S" instead of just "Carrera" - went through the video trying to figure out if the behavior you experienced included PTV+, eLSD, etc. that the base C2 doesn't have.
Awesome video. Where can I find the numbers to share that US vs EU manual take rate for the 991?
I am certain there is sales data available from Porsche, however that figure came directly from the VP of the 911 within Porsche.
so informative great review！
PDK can 700 torque so that after market upgrade can be done without having to upgrade transmission
PDK
Saudi Arabia, coz I'll commuting, if weekend toy and track then stick.
Always nice to see man
Solid review. PDK owner but defintely want a manual. I miss it from my first Cayman.
The reason why us europeans buys PDK is we have driven manuals the last 50 years, and i think a 911 is way better with PDK.
I could not care for the WET mode, seems cool. The 992 drives even better the 991 and the interior is stunning plus all the extra choices now.
I would go for the pdk. Sounds like a magical experience
There aren’t many Porsche’s sold in Ireland. We’ve got some crazy co2 emissions based taxes so generally the pdks and automatics work out way cheaper to own.
PDK for ease of use and because it’s such a good system.
PDK. I have a 991.1 manual. Tons of fun but not ideal for a daily driver in a crowded metropolitan area.
Manual for the street as it gives us closer connection to car but if I was to track it or lived near open roads auto barn the auto may be the thing to have as at speed these cars are stimulating.
Manual all the way. I live in Illinois. Can't wait to try it with electrification
It’s all the small changes that Porsche does every year that makes them so desirable...it’s not often u can daily drive a sport car and not feel out place
UK : VERY LUCKY to be upgrading from a 718S PDK to 992 C2S PDK next week.
Yes, indeed you are . . . Congrats!
All hail to the manual! However...electrification, is that something to do with physics? Oh my, Porsche has really been working. Thanks from San Diego.👍💙
My 992 has been ordered for e few months now and I will take delivery in may... It is off course a PDK for me as this will become my daily driver and then with our traffic the PDK is more practical.
For manual pleasure I have the 356b in the garage :D
Also, couldn't even consider it since it is not on sale yet.
EDIT: I'm in Belgium Europe...
I like manuals and its a shame they’re dying out, but Porsche has the best dual clutch automatic on the market so not getting it is a loss.
It’s great the way you point out technical details no one else does. Keep it up.
Being a 991.2 C4S owner, this new version will be appealing after as you call it ‘electrification.’
My guess is AWD will be standard and the front will have electric motors. Smaller battery pack along with flat turbo will be in the back. It will maintain the 911 rear engine characteristics, but be better in every way. Manual transmission will still be possible in such a configuration, but there will me more fakery to integrate with electric power.
The PDK.....best of both worlds..
One of the best channels on UA-cam 👍 #savethemanuals USA buyer.
Always the manual. Have never owned an auto. Would love to drive a manual hybrid-electric car. I'm sure the engineers can make it work beautifully. Located in the USA.
Manual
Australia
I have a 993 coupe and a 981 boxster S, both in manual. The manual gearbox is too big a part of the fun for each at any speed to ever think of giving that away
Of course a Manual, from Germany :)
PDK for me! I’ve just loved paddles since I drove my first M car with SMG.
Rick
If/when I'm able to buy a 992, it'll likely be the PDK. If I'm ever able to buy a 2nd Porsche, it'll be an older manual.
Moto Man is Porsche.
Manual all the way. Jury is out regarding paired with electrification.
the only decent manual in the 911 range is the GT3 6-speed and those are virtually impossible to get your hands on. The 7-speed is awful, so the PDK is the best compromise if you're not one of the chosen few who get their hands on a GT3.
Manual, and I wouldn’t mind the electrification. Chicago, IL.
Yeah this is out of my price range, or at least more than I want to pay for a car, but if I did it would be manual for sure. Everytime this comes up people chime in with "everyone says they'll buy a manual but no one does, the enthusiasts want to pick them up second hand, etc etc". You want to know who still buys manual transmission cars new? This guy. In 30 years of buying new cars (and a few more buying used before that), I've bought exactly 1 auto car, a DSG A3. I've bought convertibles, sedans, a wagon, 4 cylinder, V6, I6, rotaries, FWD, RWD, AWD, Japanese, German, etc all in manual, and all while living and commuting 40-85km daily in Toronto traffic. This year I'm hoping to trade the A3 on a GTI or Golf R, and buy the new MX-5 as a keeper, and damn straight they will be manual. I drove the RS3 and it just left me cold driving on public roads - would only be entertaining on a track. I was glad to hop back into my 13 year old A4 Avant even with the barely functional a/c where I could actually drive again and leave the game boy dash to the 20 year olds.
Cool Chucks.
The PDK performance is too good to pass up
My 991.1 is manual, as is my 128i. I have never owned an automatic.
@@JohannesSebastian daily driver in city should be an EV. For fun, manual NA...
Andrew Ward I have a manual 991.1 I love the gearbox
Great videos, love the deep-car insight only Moto-Man gives us. What is your actual profession? How do you have all this money to galavant around puttering in and out of a new car every couple weeks, owning vintage war planes, and yammering away getting middle of the road at best viewer numbers? Are you a trust fund baby? Did you make it big in finance before you made the cliché move of leaving the daily grind behind to follow your passion?
He has good friends and a big sense of networking, so he is hanging out with his friends flying these planes as member and made a deal to do his show there. Not everything in life is about money, its his passion and profession. Thats just what I took away from his q&a´s, might be not totally precise in alle places.
Excellent a million times :) Best review...again. Re the car and a comment I have left already somewhere else: too much electronics nowadays...too much interference... like in F1 the driver does less and less and the engineers do more and more. It is not a sports car anymore - it is a technology feast full of playstation gimmicks - the sort of craft I don't ask for. Faster, Porkier, Too Sophisticated, Too Much Luxury. A Cayman 981 GT4 will be certainly slower but much more enjoyable for hardcore drivers. Buy one whilst you can.
Europe is highly congested. Lots of stop and go and less room to enjoy winding out a car compared to North America. That's why the take-rate for manuals in Europe is only 5%.
I just ordered a 992 PDK. Should be here in KS about Sep 1. :-)
There is way too much shaming for those who choose anything other than a manual transmission. I find it counterproductive. People choose the car they want and how it is equipped using a lot of different criteria so when words are used that assume the "proper" transmission in the manual it really turns me off. I have driven manual transmission cars for 30 years (live in the USA) but my preference for the 911 and for my BMW M2 is the PDK/DCT. The fact that the USA is the main customer for manual transmissions likely says more about the influence of journalists who constantly talk up manual transmissions and shame anyone who would dare choose anything else. I have had total strangers come up to me at Cars and Coffee and tell me I selected the wrong transmission in the car I pay for. Face it we are given two excellent choices both the manual and PDK are great and offer great experiences. If I were choosing a car that I would just enjoy a few days a month and wouldn't get stuck in traffic during a commute a manual would likely be my choice but that isn't reality for me.
On the topic of the manual combined with electrification the only car I can recall doing this was the Honda CRZ which offered that combination and from what I heard it worked pretty well. It would be interesting to see what Honda had to do to make that work.
If I could afford it, manual. 🇺🇸
Finally got my 991.2 C4S with PDK. The next one is going to be manual transmission for sure.
We are the last analog generation before losing to all these nanny electronics digital world.
Seem like all good review of 992 and the only thing I will like to change is remove that big hole in the middle of the transmission (central console). Toronto , Canada
Then the PDK user will smoke you in a drag race 24/7, 365 days of the year. What will irk you the most is driving behind his rear and he drives defensively so you can't overtake LMAO
Manual! I currently have a 991.2 GTS manual. 😃
Manual all the way. I can't wait tio try a manual with electrification. I'm in Chicago land.
Nice real nice
I would do a PDK. I’m in the USA. Not enough of an enthusiast to get the manual.
Greg Gronemeier actually the US market has bought the most manual Porsche in the past few years.
Wade H
Yes, that’s what the video said. My comment still stands. Manuals are good if that’s what you desire.
Thanks for the Adult no BS review.
A manual electric car would be interesting.
Manual all day every day, perfect for traffic on Wilshire.
I sure hope they don't offer a manual transmission with an electric car! That would be a gimmick like nothing else! The manual is purposed to keep the motor in the sweet torque or power range that the driver wants... but en electric motor is always in gear! A hybrid car, maybe, but should they bother, or go directly to electric?
What's the song at 9:52?
Manual with the electrification set up with a KERS like on demand button.... from South Dakota -31 tomorrow Oh mein Gott!!
I have a manual Carrera T, wouldn’t have anything else in a 911 so for me a 992 would have to be manual! UK...
Ban the PDK. Long live the manual.
PDK!!!👍
With very few exceptions all electric cars have only one gear ratio. The PDK is irrelevant to an all electric car.
Always manual - Saudi Arabia
Boogie down Bronx
Man parrish
I’m a 50 yo living in the Uk 🇬🇧
It was the best hip hop record everrr made,and the video was just so frigging good..
So very American
Loved it,still on my iPhone today 🤘🏻
ua-cam.com/video/fQtC6Z1Fp0w/v-deo.html&feature=share
If there is a brain on your shoulder
U choose the PDK
I would do horrible, horrible things, for a 992.
PDK due to the bad Bay Area traffic.