Sanji didn't ask Zoro to strike him down if he couldn't control himself because he looks to him as a leader. He did it because he knows Zoro's the only one on the crew capable enough to do it. Luffy is strong enough also, but he won't do it.
lol we see how Luffy goes to war for anybody that feed him. And Sanji make 90% percent of his meals. I think Sanji is luffy’s favorite person. That’s why he let whole cake slide
@@McDawit21 Nah its cause sanji didnt mean anything he said. Ussop pulled out a fake identity taking no accountability in what he said just to still be with the straw hats. If sanji didnt do what he did everyone in whole cake island dies including zeff. Sanji did it for everyone whilst ussop did it for himself thats why the 2 situations are no where near comparable. And anyone who may argue sanji didnt have faith in luffy, luffy still nearly lost to the 1stt commander and we know katkuri is no match for big mom so imagine big mom coming after them with no germa alliance no jinbe to help the strawhats and companions are all dead.
I feel Luffy is that one friend, that ties everyone together. That when he is gone, the others kind of form they own little cliques but can't really come together in an entire group. Like he doesn't really lead in a way, just brings everyone together.
They can come together without Luffy. They've done it before in Thriller Bark & Skypeia. Their bond is too strong. There is somewhat of a hierarchy as well, just look at who's in charge of the ship at times. I found out the usual order is Luffy->Zoro(gone with Luffy)->Sanji->then Nami. No one on the ship seems to have a problem with this as well.
@@tonydiamond7663ehhh.. he wasn't gone, as in dead, though, during those times. This is when he is gone forever. I tend to agree more with op, that they would probably have a few different little groups with some mingling between the groups, but probably wouldn't be able to continue on as is and as a whole.
@@tonydiamond7663 yeah saying that the whole crew would fall apart because luffy dies because luffy is the only thing that holds them together or keeps them connected is really disrespectful. and underestimates the bond they all have and is the same as calling them weak and a weak crew.
I think people always overlook Luffy’s quality that his strongest weapon is taking on someone else’s burden. Take for example, when he was getting beaten to a pulp by Katakuri, Nami, Chopper, and the rest saw him through Brûlée’s mirror getting punished, but he smiled at them so they wouldn’t have to worry about their captain. That’s a true leader, even if he’s an air head
What surprises me that no one brought up is we’ve seen crews stop voyaging from the loss of their captain. Like we don’t see the Roger’s or the Whitebeard pirates sailing as a crew. They all still care for and respect each other, but once the captain falls you really don’t have the figurehead to follow anymore
Nami has the best shot at keeping everyone together. Her dream of drawing a map of the world means Robin, Sanji, Franky can all achieve their goals in the process. And Zoro is just sailing around looking to get stronger. Chopper, Brook, and Usopp would stay for the vibes. Jinbe probably leaves tho no matter who takes over
The problem with that is Zoro would definitely leave to become stronger on his own. He has already made it clear nami annoy's him constantly especially when she orders him around or goes off money and treasure. Ontop of his annoyance with Sanji. And without Zoro a large portion of the straw hats power is gone. Zoro's constant annoyances with nami and Sanji is only balanced out with his loyalty to Luffy.
@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn Maybe. I think they like each other enough to stay together as long as the dreams align. The problem with Zoro leaving is he'd have no idea how to navigate the grand line to find strong opponents, so his dream becomes kinda impossible. Also Zoro as captain is problematic since he's pretty aimless, so where does he chart a course to?
Franky as Captain of the Thousand Sunny. Franky would be the most agreeable to go to whatever island or area the rest of the crew would want to go to. No one has any beef with Franky, he's got the big brother vibes. They'd need that kind of leadership in grief
Straw Hats would disband before his death like Roger. If he died in a fight they would die trying to kill whoever did. after the fight if there were any survivors they would disband.
It's very clear that only LUFFY can lead the straw hats, without him as captain they all go their separate ways... but I could see a world with Zoro and Sanji leading maybe as co-captain or like a vice captain/captain thing since those 2 together have Luffy's best qualities
It’s funny cause nami definitely would be Sanji captain but every time they separate in arc where Sanji and nami are together there always the swirly pirates. Like when big mom showed up in whole cake it was Sanji who took commander while nami was running around scared or water 7 when he saved ussopp
The strawhats would definitely carry on chasing their dreams together because they are a family now, and they would inherit Luffy's will and go after the one piece when he can't (both major theme's of one piece family and inherited will) they would be like the scabbards opening the borders for oden
I agree. And would like to think that even after Luffy is gone. The crew would continue the course and keep Luffy as their capitan. They would make decisions together but always with Luffy's dream as the goal.
This question also comes down to who you would follow other than luffy. Each of your perspectives of who is the most capable and who you respect the most will effect your pick.
It’s between zoro and jimbei we’ve seen countless times zoro has had I don’t wanna say educate but correct his members and keep them in check on certain things that comes with being ina crew like when usopp left and we’ve seen the crew look his way for council multiple times or depended on zoro in situations but jimbei also has been shown to have similar qualities as well and sanji I can’t put in the same category because when it comes to women he’s vulnerable he’s unreliable in those situations so I’d put nami over him she just follows her emotions more then jimbei and zoro who are more logical
Realistically they would just desband. Zoro is the only one similar enough to Luffy in terms of leadership, charisma, respect and strenght to have a shot at it (people pointing out Nami, Sanji or Jimbei are more rational and strategic are dumb, Luffy isn't the most clever guy in the crew and he's still a great captain since in One Piece that isn't the most important quality to be a leader). That being said we've seen that Zoro likes to act solo most of the time and if it wasn't for Luffy he would just do his own thing, and I don't think all the strawhats would follow him anyway. So yeah, they would desband
No they wouldn't, what have you people been reading? I really wonder. That's not the nature of the straw hats, starting with Nami, she wouldn't let anyone leave lmao she would force everyone to keep going because that's what Luffy would've wanted. They've been a crew for years now (people forget time skip) and they love each other, Chopper wouldn't wanna leave, he'd be crying begging everyone to stay. Usopp would be shitting his pants scared to be in the new world alone, so he'd beg them to stick together to protect him. (He would also be the first to offer himself up as the new captain) Franky would want to still make the sunny the best and most famous ship to have ever existed, he needs the crew for that. Robin would just observe everybody and smile as they're all being crazy about what's gonna happen next, probably also picks up Chopper and gives him some sweets because he's crying (she also has the highest chance of knowing the whole truth about the void century by staying) I could keep writing about them all but the comment would be too long. But that's who the straw hats are, and how they act, it's been 20 years and over 1000 episodes and you still don't know the crew? That's sad. Ps: of course this is all if Luffy died right now while they're all young and haven't achieved their dreams, if it's after they've all achieved their dreams, then yeah, they would disband, but now? Hell nah
@@angelaquino6755 I get your point, but I view things differently. I agree that, with or without Luffy, they're still a family and they still care for each other. But Luffy is the reason each of them joined and leaved their home, Luffy is the glue that keeps them together and the leader that they're all following. Maybe some of them would stick around together, but the crew as a whole and as we know it would be finished (unless they decide to achieve Luffy's dream in his place, but I don't think they could do it without him)
the two main themes in one piece are found family and inherited wills, saying they'll disband is just disregarding all the bonds and relationships between them that don't involve luffy, if anything they'll try to achieve his dream and inherit his will, while also pursuing their own, if someone had to step up as a figurehead it would be zoro, he was present at the recruitment of every straw hat.
People forget that Luffy and Zoro were both instrumental in having Sanji decide to join the crew. Luffy primarily and Zoro as well especially when he saw Zoro’s ambition to follow his dream to the death when facing Mihawk.
Also as far as fighting Zoro can take Luffys role one example is when at wci Nami herself told Luffy that they didn’t come here to fight and if they did they would have brought Zoro. Also many times it’s stated that Zoro purposely doesn’t go overboard with his fighting in order not to outshine Luffy as the captain. If there’s no Luffy then he would take the mantle.
I believe that Robin could potentially lead the Straw Hats. She’s knowledgeable, everyone would respect her enough, and while she’s not the strongest, she can handle her own. Plus she would know who to place in certain situations to get out of a tough spot.
That and she could find the one piece. I think continuing that mission could keep the crew together and Robin has the most motivation for the one piece besides maybe Nami.
Your right she has all the leadership and intellegence but she lacks the qualities of a conquer and thus cldnt become pirate queen specially against enemies like black beard shanks etc
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17:15 that is so true Zoro has his own ambition and it’s not a far-fetched ambition/goal he can actually do it non-plot wise against Mihawk or non-plot wise in general. It just makes sense on paper. He doesn’t need help to become the world’s greatest swordsman he can solo that on his own. Even without luffy Zoro would’ve found strong opponents. He could’ve even been a marine
19:54 If Luff passed away, I can also still see them going after the One Piece as a memento, but I still don’t see Zoro staying. So I think Sanji would make the most sense as captain. Jimbei would be a great captain but I don’t think the straw hats would follow him as far. Same reason for Nami.
It definitely would be Zoro, he's Luffy's right hand and first recruit. He's already had to take charge is situations where Luffy was out of the picture temporarily.
Zoro is least likely to stay if luffy died. Everything about his personality and goal is centered around him alone. He doesn't need the crew and joined when it was only him and luffy. I think they would have the best chance with split leadership between Sanji, Nami and Jimbei. I can still see zoro leaving and the rest of the crew would go on without him. Maybe even brook would leave momentarily to say hi to laboon. He just wanted to share some laughs with luffy anyways.
18:45 I think if Luffy was gone, Zoro would leave too. At the beginning it was just Luffy and Zoro. Luffy and his dream and vision was essentially the reason Zoro tagged along. He said “The Pirate King would need no other but the World’s Greatest Swordsman by his side .” Being a pirate was never Zoro’s ambition to begin with. But that quote also shows that out of everyone on that ship that he believes would help him reach his goal the most is Luffy, the future pirate king. While Zoro may have great feelings and respect for most of his fellow crew members, he clearly doesn’t think any of them are on his equal, and I think he would actually see it as a kindness to leave them behind. He knows his goal is a gruesome one and only ends in blood. I don’t think he would bring any of them along for that. I can see him stopping by each island the respective straw hats go to after the crew splits up and brings them sake and sharing a few laughs and stories and leaving almost as quickly as he arrived.
"We're not gonna go and seek other people to accomplish what we started together" only luffys dream requires a crew. None of their dreams require a crew. So there's no guarantee to stick together
That's not the point there, it's that at this point they've already lost Luffy, the strongest of the crew, and if he were to assume the role of captain, Zoro would definitely leave, meaning the crew would be significantly weaker. Sanji could stand to be under Zoro but he would know in that situation it's either Zoro is captain or he's gone, and then they wouldn't have a fighting chance at making any forward process at all
Yoo we forgot how White beard literally pulled up to one of the most dangerous places for pirates to get ace back, just to turn around and hug somebody that betrayed him
One of the rare times he actually had a good take to go with his good reasoning. Though I do agree that they would disband. Maybe even each person leaving as they accomplish their own dream.
The straw hats are the most unorthodox pirate crew where oda has even stated they dont have a legit hierarchy with vice captain, etc. Theyre def 1000 percent pushing forward together and grabbing the one piece.
The straw hats are a family and pretty much roommates, lol. I don't think they'd disband. I don't think they'd be as lit, BUT I don't see them splitting up right away.
Luffy really showed his being a captain when he screamed on Usopp about the knowledge regarding the one piece. That was his first showing of leadership. Water 7 was a progression into fgzr role. Success bring messy and all. Fish man is land he officially became the captain. Flexing his power and letting it be known that my ambition is THE ambition that trumps all.
this broke my heart because i now look at all the arks of one piece and how they would go without luffy and it feels just so much more... unhappy and sad.
I think emotional maturity also plays a big role in this. There are several characters, like a Nami or a Sanji, who I think would be too emotionally immature to lead a crew. Whereas someone like Zoro or Jimbei, who have a lot of mental discipline and would better serve as leader
Sanji literally kick the hell out of luffy, and told him he needs to watch what he says to usopp During water seven. Larry this sanji hate is getting a little sad. like i get you dont like the dude but to down play sanji role in the story is crazy
@@WriteWhatISeethe post isn't about the question at hand. It's about how there is clear Zoro bias coming from Larry. Enough bias to have him view the story in a completely different way
Sanji will be the worst leader, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 All you have to do is put a woman in front of him. And he will not fight back , and if any man fights back like zoro, he will attack him. And we'll say it doesn't matter how evil they are beaceuce all women are Innocent even if they are assassins 😂😂😂😂 they can do whatever they want even killed him 😂😂😂 his word When he fought the girl in cp9 If big mom was involved, say goodbye to the crew 😂😂😂
I could see a scenario where. If Luffy is gone, and the crew breaks up. Some time later. Usopp would be the one to bring them back together. He would need a power up. But I think the crew would allow him to have the capitan title, because they know he would consider the desires of the crew. It would take time and like a whole arc for him to grow into a man that can make the tough choices. But ultimately I think he would be the only one to fill in Luffy's shoes.
People say things about Larry, but at least he ain’t a yes man. He has his opinions and he makes the show more interesting, no matter how much you may disagree w him
I think Nico Robin could be the captain. Continuing the mission of finding the one piece could keep them together and Robin has the intelligence, level headedness and strategy, plus she can read the poneglyphs.
10:12 luffy progressed and proved him self as a leader in fishman island. He always been the captain who led through his actions that is true, but actually leader wise was when he was in fishman island
22:30 so true 😂 sanji led the marines without asking for luffy orders in punkhazard. Zoro just didn’t wanna kill or fight tashigi because the main enemy was in front of them. But it is true Zoro wouldn’t accept sanji as captain. Everyone respects Jinbe like even allies of enemies would respect him he chooses his battles well and knows how to lead
One thing about this question that I feel is being overlooked is that half of the crew didn't even want to be pirates but they did want to follow luffy. With this in mind,I doubt they would continue being pirates but each would still follow their own individual goals, that doesn't mean that they no longer respect each other/enjoy eachothers company, I feel like they would become more like the Roger pirates after Roger died. (Each one does their own respective thing, to reach their own goals and that still follows the guidelines or atmosphere luffy set for his crew). Also respectfully some of yall were too wrapped up on whether or not luffy is a good captain which doesn't really matter in terms of the question, technically as soon as each member joined the straw hat pirates they acknowledged luffy as their captain and no one else.
Now that the whole crew knows Luffys dream, if he died, they would all likely stay together for as long as it took to accomplish his dream. Once they fulfill his dream, they’ll posthumously declare him the pirate king and gradually disband.
huge factor is does Luffy die before or after they find Laugh tale? Before. they probably turn back & pick up some of their friends & allies & go forward to finish luffies dream of finding the one piece. (picking up the likes of Vivi, Boa, Yamato, Law, etc). then when they find the ONe piece they have the greatest party ever had. & they head back out to do what they wanna do. I think some SH members would stick together, even if all of them dont stick on the same boat or island. theyre still a found family, which is more than just friends... & maybe they eventually move off fully years later to start their own seperate families. like what rogers crew did If luffy dies after the find the one piece, i think most of the SH's dreams have been met & theyre good to go. maybe some will stick together like i mentioned before. but life exists beyond the boat. & we've seen that with rogers & white beards crews. who were extremely familial
Literally sticking with a crew and traveling is the best way Zoro could achieve his goal because if the kept going after the one piece it puts them in direct conflict with strong opponents
Zoro and sanji would probably be leaders together but with zoro taking the alpha role and sanji might give zoro a hard time but he respects him because since the kuma situation zoro always steps up and fills that first mate role to the fullest
The straw hats would still love each other after luffy dies, but they'll no longer be a crew, just look at rocks', whitebeard's and Rogers' crew... But if i was hard pressed to find a leader I think, Jinbei is most suitable, he's level headed and is also respected by the whole crew
8:25 he’s right I don’t see Zoro actually forming alliances to further complete any plan he makes or the crew makes without luffy. Jinbe can work with everyone and make alliances with other pirates or outsiders. Sanji can too. Zoro is more like action he’s not really gonna formulate plans with other people for the sake of the crew. Unless he swallows his pride but I just don’t see em allying with anyone out the crew fr or liberating people from outside the crew
The only way the crew doesn't disband is if they all decide to continue the journey in honour of luffy. Given that scenario, I dont think there'd be an actual captain. They'd all just do their respective rolls and all decisions would go through everyone.
Saying that the crew would split if luffy died, because nothing else is keeping them together is crazy. They only love/like each other because luffy is present is even crazier. A crew that can barely tolerate each other doesn't survive.
I just finished that Fish-Man Island Arc where the princess is swimming away from the slow Noah, so drawn out…why not just touch the ship and stop it when they first seen it approaching🙄
I understand and agree with what law was saying, and i also agree with what larry was saying,this time for once all were making sense, but only thing i disagree with the take that strawhats would splitup if luffy passess away before completing his ambition. Yes, luffy brought them all together, but they grew into a family, they have developed relationships and bonds among eachother beyond their common standing of their belief and trust in luffy. To me it seems like that kuffy's ambition of becoming the king of the pirates is as important as their own individual ambition to all of them. Zoro even put luffy and luffy's ambition before his own. And i have no doubt that every other strawhat would do the same, even luffy would do the same. There is no way in hell they would abandon their bonds and relationship under any circumstances. Whitebeards were the opposite, all of them had gathered under the shadow of one one who they called as pops. When whitebeard died ,even though he wanted his sons to go on with the journey without him, even though it was one of his final wishes, marco, jozzu ,vista and all others just couldn't continue without whitebeard. But the case is different with the strawhats.
The most important thing that everyone don't understand here is that it's not about them anymore it's all about luffy if a straw hat die luffy will continue the journey with the rest but if luffy die that is a whole different story because non of them is gonna follow anyone.
Jinbei is a conqueror, he conquered our hearts as soon as he appeared, showed his middle finger to big mom on her face, in her territory,with all her crew around them. Jinbei and Fischer tiger need to be and announced as conquerors. If two of the strongest and most influential fishmen aren't conquerors then i would start calling oda racist(jk).😂
I can see them sticking together because it is the best way to accomplish their dreams. But I would argue that none of them would accomplish their goal. I think the most important aspect of Luffy is his driving Force which pulls them. Yes Zoro is very ambitious but I think Luffy greatest ability is to inspire outher people to go on and improve
Plus Usopp has the Usopp pirates so you gotta think the next generation of pirates is under him and the rest of the straw hats will follow and go along with the idea but they would have a ranking of how the decisions are made
3:50- 4:00 I disagree I think they would stay together because the memory of Luffy would still bond them. Nami would obviously set the agenda, Zoro would still continue his quest to beat Mihawk, Sanji still wants the all blue, all their dreams would still be in tact and attainable if Luffy died. Being any given Strawhat was never about following Luffy, but following each of their individual dreams as a team. Those dreams would keep them driving.
Based on the show. The leadership order would be... 2.Zoro- First mate is always next, but he lost all the time, so it automatically goes to #3. 3. Sanji-In Zou, when Luffy& Zoro weren't present, he took the role of Captain. 4.Nami- In Whole Cake, she took charge when none of the 3 were present.
I can see zoro leading with Nami as co. Zoro has stepped up multiple times and Nami has always been the plan maker and level headed one to help keep the crew from killing themselves. Even if they wouldnt have formed without Luffy, They would carry out his will and be done after or die trying. I cant see Luffy dying unless its for his friends, and straw hats repay debuts so what better reason to keep carrying on than for the man who brought them all together and gave them love and made them a family. With the Sanji and Zoro beef, i think it would be squashed almost instantly the moment they hear luffy dies. they are more like brothers than frienemies. Luffy being around makes them feel safe and that no matter what, luffy will be here to save us. but with that security blanket gone, they wouldnt have room to be bickering. they would be on edge and worried about the crew. I could even see the arguement of Sanji voicing he wants zoro to be the new captain. Sanji works in the background, like with chopper and usopp, supporting his crew, but he wont shy away from speaking up about something serious.
I feel like if we go the respect angle, they might all elect Jinbei as the new captain, but I don’t know what his goal would be as captain. Zoro would want to get stronger and look for ways for everyone to get stronger, but not much else I don’t think. Sanji would just want to travel looking for the all blue. Nami would want to continue her maps, so in terms of a long term goal that would suit everyone else, Nami is the best choice there.
The Strawhats all care for each other, they all love each other. They would not stay together without Luffy. They all trust each other to do what needs to be done. But their goals are not to aid each other. Their goals are to fulfill their own dream, and Luffy's. None of them reference any of the others dreams. Other than Luffy's. They all say that he's going to become the Pirate King. That's what they care about.
If Luffy dies there is no straw hats imo. Jimbei would leave the crew and go back to fishman island. Zoro would leave the crew and pursue his goal by himself because his goal doesn’t require a crew he just chooses to follow Luffy specifically. Robin imo would join the Revolutionary army. I think the rest of the crew with Nami, Sanji, Franky, Chopper, ussopp, and Brooke would all stay together on the ship with Nami probably being the leader but it wouldn’t be the straw hats without Zoro or Luffy.
Sanji didn't ask Zoro to strike him down if he couldn't control himself because he looks to him as a leader. He did it because he knows Zoro's the only one on the crew capable enough to do it. Luffy is strong enough also, but he won't do it.
Exactly Zoro is the only one strong enough on the crew that wouldn't think twice about honoring Sanji's request
True
lol we see how Luffy goes to war for anybody that feed him. And Sanji make 90% percent of his meals. I think Sanji is luffy’s favorite person. That’s why he let whole cake slide
@@McDawit21 Nah its cause sanji didnt mean anything he said. Ussop pulled out a fake identity taking no accountability in what he said just to still be with the straw hats. If sanji didnt do what he did everyone in whole cake island dies including zeff. Sanji did it for everyone whilst ussop did it for himself thats why the 2 situations are no where near comparable. And anyone who may argue sanji didnt have faith in luffy, luffy still nearly lost to the 1stt commander and we know katkuri is no match for big mom so imagine big mom coming after them with no germa alliance no jinbe to help the strawhats and companions are all dead.
That’s a request you only make to someone that you respect. Respect for their strength and their resolved, which are both leadership qualities.
I feel Luffy is that one friend, that ties everyone together. That when he is gone, the others kind of form they own little cliques but can't really come together in an entire group. Like he doesn't really lead in a way, just brings everyone together.
They can come together without Luffy. They've done it before in Thriller Bark & Skypeia. Their bond is too strong. There is somewhat of a hierarchy as well, just look at who's in charge of the ship at times. I found out the usual order is Luffy->Zoro(gone with Luffy)->Sanji->then Nami. No one on the ship seems to have a problem with this as well.
@@tonydiamond7663 completely agree
@@tonydiamond7663ehhh.. he wasn't gone, as in dead, though, during those times. This is when he is gone forever.
I tend to agree more with op, that they would probably have a few different little groups with some mingling between the groups, but probably wouldn't be able to continue on as is and as a whole.
@@tonydiamond7663 yeah saying that the whole crew would fall apart because luffy dies because luffy is the only thing that holds them together or keeps them connected is really disrespectful. and underestimates the bond they all have and is the same as calling them weak and a weak crew.
I think people always overlook Luffy’s quality that his strongest weapon is taking on someone else’s burden. Take for example, when he was getting beaten to a pulp by Katakuri, Nami, Chopper, and the rest saw him through Brûlée’s mirror getting punished, but he smiled at them so they wouldn’t have to worry about their captain. That’s a true leader, even if he’s an air head
What surprises me that no one brought up is we’ve seen crews stop voyaging from the loss of their captain. Like we don’t see the Roger’s or the Whitebeard pirates sailing as a crew. They all still care for and respect each other, but once the captain falls you really don’t have the figurehead to follow anymore
Exactly what I was thinking. Disbanding doesn't mean they don't care for each other.
when brooks captain died he took the role of captain until his crew died.
They kind of did when they were stating luffy is the reason they are all together that they wouldn’t even be together if luffy wasn’t there
They’re not built like Zoro.
Nami has the best shot at keeping everyone together. Her dream of drawing a map of the world means Robin, Sanji, Franky can all achieve their goals in the process. And Zoro is just sailing around looking to get stronger. Chopper, Brook, and Usopp would stay for the vibes. Jinbe probably leaves tho no matter who takes over
The problem with that is Zoro would definitely leave to become stronger on his own.
He has already made it clear nami annoy's him constantly especially when she orders him around or goes off money and treasure.
Ontop of his annoyance with Sanji.
And without Zoro a large portion of the straw hats power is gone.
Zoro's constant annoyances with nami and Sanji is only balanced out with his loyalty to Luffy.
@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn Maybe. I think they like each other enough to stay together as long as the dreams align. The problem with Zoro leaving is he'd have no idea how to navigate the grand line to find strong opponents, so his dream becomes kinda impossible. Also Zoro as captain is problematic since he's pretty aimless, so where does he chart a course to?
Franky as Captain of the Thousand Sunny. Franky would be the most agreeable to go to whatever island or area the rest of the crew would want to go to. No one has any beef with Franky, he's got the big brother vibes. They'd need that kind of leadership in grief
Straw Hats would disband before his death like Roger. If he died in a fight they would die trying to kill whoever did. after the fight if there were any survivors they would disband.
That's so true
Larry has no idea what he's talking about. Luffy has ALWAYS been the captain
It's very clear that only LUFFY can lead the straw hats, without him as captain they all go their separate ways... but I could see a world with Zoro and Sanji leading maybe as co-captain or like a vice captain/captain thing since those 2 together have Luffy's best qualities
But they don’t get along.
They do get along in situations serious enough, in a situation where luffy dies they will get along for the crew@@travisealy3512
@@travisealy3512 On the surface they don’t, but they have one of the strongest bonds out of all of the straw hats
It’s funny cause nami definitely would be Sanji captain but every time they separate in arc where Sanji and nami are together there always the swirly pirates. Like when big mom showed up in whole cake it was Sanji who took commander while nami was running around scared or water 7 when he saved ussopp
@@royalfun1031ship was literally named something like twirli pirates
20:09 Larry, Zoro and Luffy's dream are not comparable whatsoever
The strawhats would definitely carry on chasing their dreams together because they are a family now, and they would inherit Luffy's will and go after the one piece when he can't (both major theme's of one piece family and inherited will) they would be like the scabbards opening the borders for oden
I agree. And would like to think that even after Luffy is gone. The crew would continue the course and keep Luffy as their capitan. They would make decisions together but always with Luffy's dream as the goal.
@14:16 Larry??? You remember what happened when Zoro fought Enel, don’t you??…….BBQ 3 style Chicken
This question also comes down to who you would follow other than luffy. Each of your perspectives of who is the most capable and who you respect the most will effect your pick.
This is also the same way that Rayleigh was the official first mate..but the Roger pirates were disbanded when Roger himself left
But who’s gon fight Sanji for trying to find the all blue? Ain’t nobody gonna pull out advanced conquerors for someone trynna find an ocean😂
The bald dude is a clear Zoro stan and it’s sick
He literally gave an articulated response and your only one is "he's a Zoro stan." Grow up lol
Zoro hater try not to sound like a moron challenge(impossible)
It’s between zoro and jimbei we’ve seen countless times zoro has had I don’t wanna say educate but correct his members and keep them in check on certain things that comes with being ina crew like when usopp left and we’ve seen the crew look his way for council multiple times or depended on zoro in situations but jimbei also has been shown to have similar qualities as well and sanji I can’t put in the same category because when it comes to women he’s vulnerable he’s unreliable in those situations so I’d put nami over him she just follows her emotions more then jimbei and zoro who are more logical
Realistically they would just desband. Zoro is the only one similar enough to Luffy in terms of leadership, charisma, respect and strenght to have a shot at it (people pointing out Nami, Sanji or Jimbei are more rational and strategic are dumb, Luffy isn't the most clever guy in the crew and he's still a great captain since in One Piece that isn't the most important quality to be a leader). That being said we've seen that Zoro likes to act solo most of the time and if it wasn't for Luffy he would just do his own thing, and I don't think all the strawhats would follow him anyway. So yeah, they would desband
No they wouldn't, what have you people been reading? I really wonder. That's not the nature of the straw hats, starting with Nami, she wouldn't let anyone leave lmao she would force everyone to keep going because that's what Luffy would've wanted. They've been a crew for years now (people forget time skip) and they love each other,
Chopper wouldn't wanna leave, he'd be crying begging everyone to stay. Usopp would be shitting his pants scared to be in the new world alone, so he'd beg them to stick together to protect him. (He would also be the first to offer himself up as the new captain)
Franky would want to still make the sunny the best and most famous ship to have ever existed, he needs the crew for that.
Robin would just observe everybody and smile as they're all being crazy about what's gonna happen next, probably also picks up Chopper and gives him some sweets because he's crying (she also has the highest chance of knowing the whole truth about the void century by staying)
I could keep writing about them all but the comment would be too long. But that's who the straw hats are, and how they act, it's been 20 years and over 1000 episodes and you still don't know the crew? That's sad.
Ps: of course this is all if Luffy died right now while they're all young and haven't achieved their dreams, if it's after they've all achieved their dreams, then yeah, they would disband, but now? Hell nah
@@angelaquino6755 I get your point, but I view things differently. I agree that, with or without Luffy, they're still a family and they still care for each other. But Luffy is the reason each of them joined and leaved their home, Luffy is the glue that keeps them together and the leader that they're all following. Maybe some of them would stick around together, but the crew as a whole and as we know it would be finished (unless they decide to achieve Luffy's dream in his place, but I don't think they could do it without him)
@@lemme3295 valid
the two main themes in one piece are found family and inherited wills, saying they'll disband is just disregarding all the bonds and relationships between them that don't involve luffy, if anything they'll try to achieve his dream and inherit his will, while also pursuing their own, if someone had to step up as a figurehead it would be zoro, he was present at the recruitment of every straw hat.
People forget that Luffy and Zoro were both instrumental in having Sanji decide to join the crew. Luffy primarily and Zoro as well especially when he saw Zoro’s ambition to follow his dream to the death when facing Mihawk.
Also as far as fighting Zoro can take Luffys role one example is when at wci Nami herself told Luffy that they didn’t come here to fight and if they did they would have brought Zoro. Also many times it’s stated that Zoro purposely doesn’t go overboard with his fighting in order not to outshine Luffy as the captain. If there’s no Luffy then he would take the mantle.
"Sanji can lead a kitchen" 😭
I believe that Robin could potentially lead the Straw Hats. She’s knowledgeable, everyone would respect her enough, and while she’s not the strongest, she can handle her own. Plus she would know who to place in certain situations to get out of a tough spot.
True but we've never seen her take charge. She's more like an advisor than a leader.
That and she could find the one piece. I think continuing that mission could keep the crew together and Robin has the most motivation for the one piece besides maybe Nami.
Your right she has all the leadership and intellegence but she lacks the qualities of a conquer and thus cldnt become pirate queen specially against enemies like black beard shanks etc
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people forget how much ViVi helped Luffy be a good Leader
True
17:15 that is so true Zoro has his own ambition and it’s not a far-fetched ambition/goal he can actually do it non-plot wise against Mihawk or non-plot wise in general. It just makes sense on paper. He doesn’t need help to become the world’s greatest swordsman he can solo that on his own. Even without luffy Zoro would’ve found strong opponents. He could’ve even been a marine
19:54 If Luff passed away, I can also still see them going after the One Piece as a memento, but I still don’t see Zoro staying. So I think Sanji would make the most sense as captain. Jimbei would be a great captain but I don’t think the straw hats would follow him as far. Same reason for Nami.
It definitely would be Zoro, he's Luffy's right hand and first recruit. He's already had to take charge is situations where Luffy was out of the picture temporarily.
How did a simple question turn into a full debate lol
Franky’s dream is the only other one that involves luffy becoming the pirate king
Zoro is least likely to stay if luffy died. Everything about his personality and goal is centered around him alone. He doesn't need the crew and joined when it was only him and luffy. I think they would have the best chance with split leadership between Sanji, Nami and Jimbei. I can still see zoro leaving and the rest of the crew would go on without him. Maybe even brook would leave momentarily to say hi to laboon. He just wanted to share some laughs with luffy anyways.
18:45 I think if Luffy was gone, Zoro would leave too. At the beginning it was just Luffy and Zoro. Luffy and his dream and vision was essentially the reason Zoro tagged along. He said “The Pirate King would need no other but the World’s Greatest Swordsman by his side .” Being a pirate was never Zoro’s ambition to begin with. But that quote also shows that out of everyone on that ship that he believes would help him reach his goal the most is Luffy, the future pirate king.
While Zoro may have great feelings and respect for most of his fellow crew members, he clearly doesn’t think any of them are on his equal, and I think he would actually see it as a kindness to leave them behind. He knows his goal is a gruesome one and only ends in blood. I don’t think he would bring any of them along for that. I can see him stopping by each island the respective straw hats go to after the crew splits up and brings them sake and sharing a few laughs and stories and leaving almost as quickly as he arrived.
"We're not gonna go and seek other people to accomplish what we started together" only luffys dream requires a crew. None of their dreams require a crew. So there's no guarantee to stick together
Also saying sanji “would know better” is wild as if he’s afraid of zoro
That's not the point there, it's that at this point they've already lost Luffy, the strongest of the crew, and if he were to assume the role of captain, Zoro would definitely leave, meaning the crew would be significantly weaker. Sanji could stand to be under Zoro but he would know in that situation it's either Zoro is captain or he's gone, and then they wouldn't have a fighting chance at making any forward process at all
Yoo we forgot how White beard literally pulled up to one of the most dangerous places for pirates to get ace back, just to turn around and hug somebody that betrayed him
One of the rare times he actually had a good take to go with his good reasoning. Though I do agree that they would disband. Maybe even each person leaving as they accomplish their own dream.
"Sanji could run a kitchen" lmao seb spitting
The straw hats are the most unorthodox pirate crew where oda has even stated they dont have a legit hierarchy with vice captain, etc. Theyre def 1000 percent pushing forward together and grabbing the one piece.
Larry always spitting
I think the “nothing happened” scene kind of closes this argument for me.
The straw hats are a family and pretty much roommates, lol. I don't think they'd disband. I don't think they'd be as lit, BUT I don't see them splitting up right away.
I feel like all captains/kings need advisors to pick up the slack or point in the right direction when they doing or leaning towards the wrong way
Bro’s trippin’ Luffy has always been captain.
Facts 😂
Luffy really showed his being a captain when he screamed on Usopp about the knowledge regarding the one piece. That was his first showing of leadership. Water 7 was a progression into fgzr role. Success bring messy and all. Fish man is land he officially became the captain. Flexing his power and letting it be known that my ambition is THE ambition that trumps all.
this broke my heart because i now look at all the arks of one piece and how they would go without luffy and it feels just so much more... unhappy and sad.
They’d power through it.
I think emotional maturity also plays a big role in this. There are several characters, like a Nami or a Sanji, who I think would be too emotionally immature to lead a crew. Whereas someone like Zoro or Jimbei, who have a lot of mental discipline and would better serve as leader
Zorro also said he wouldn’t work under someone who’s weaker than him
Larry the only person making sense for real.
Sanji literally kick the hell out of luffy, and told him he needs to watch what he says to usopp During water seven. Larry this sanji hate is getting a little sad. like i get you dont like the dude but to down play sanji role in the story is crazy
How exactly is Sanji kicking his captain good support for Sanji making a good captain himself?
@@WriteWhatISeethe post isn't about the question at hand. It's about how there is clear Zoro bias coming from Larry. Enough bias to have him view the story in a completely different way
Sanji will be the worst leader, 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
All you have to do is put a woman in front of him. And he will not fight back
, and if any man fights back like zoro, he will attack him. And we'll say it doesn't matter how evil they are beaceuce all women are Innocent even if they are assassins 😂😂😂😂 they can do whatever they want even killed him 😂😂😂 his word When he fought the girl in cp9
If big mom was involved, say goodbye to the crew 😂😂😂
@@defianthound407 Right but how does that defend that Larry has said bias?
@@defianthound407I agree larry was too bias and one point not making sense but ay you need that one guy who don’t make sense
I could see a scenario where. If Luffy is gone, and the crew breaks up. Some time later. Usopp would be the one to bring them back together. He would need a power up. But I think the crew would allow him to have the capitan title, because they know he would consider the desires of the crew. It would take time and like a whole arc for him to grow into a man that can make the tough choices. But ultimately I think he would be the only one to fill in Luffy's shoes.
People say things about Larry, but at least he ain’t a yes man. He has his opinions and he makes the show more interesting, no matter how much you may disagree w him
I think Nico Robin could be the captain. Continuing the mission of finding the one piece could keep them together and Robin has the intelligence, level headedness and strategy, plus she can read the poneglyphs.
5:46 facts
If Luffy passes away, the crew will disband, theres not even a question about it.
if jimbei rlly tryna end racism then he might be a conqueror fr
10:12 luffy progressed and proved him self as a leader in fishman island. He always been the captain who led through his actions that is true, but actually leader wise was when he was in fishman island
I think this argument has very different answers pre and post timeskip
They would disband like rocks crew and form an entire generation of yonko level crews
Truest fact said in this whole what if "if sanji became captain zoro would leave"
22:30 so true 😂 sanji led the marines without asking for luffy orders in punkhazard. Zoro just didn’t wanna kill or fight tashigi because the main enemy was in front of them. But it is true Zoro wouldn’t accept sanji as captain. Everyone respects Jinbe like even allies of enemies would respect him he chooses his battles well and knows how to lead
One thing about this question that I feel is being overlooked is that half of the crew didn't even want to be pirates but they did want to follow luffy. With this in mind,I doubt they would continue being pirates but each would still follow their own individual goals, that doesn't mean that they no longer respect each other/enjoy eachothers company, I feel like they would become more like the Roger pirates after Roger died. (Each one does their own respective thing, to reach their own goals and that still follows the guidelines or atmosphere luffy set for his crew). Also respectfully some of yall were too wrapped up on whether or not luffy is a good captain which doesn't really matter in terms of the question, technically as soon as each member joined the straw hat pirates they acknowledged luffy as their captain and no one else.
Now that the whole crew knows Luffys dream, if he died, they would all likely stay together for as long as it took to accomplish his dream. Once they fulfill his dream, they’ll posthumously declare him the pirate king and gradually disband.
Zoro glazer Larry at it again. Your examples only looked at the good. Be hyper critical on Zoro like you are for Sanji.
huge factor is does Luffy die before or after they find Laugh tale?
Before. they probably turn back & pick up some of their friends & allies & go forward to finish luffies dream of finding the one piece. (picking up the likes of Vivi, Boa, Yamato, Law, etc). then when they find the ONe piece they have the greatest party ever had. & they head back out to do what they wanna do. I think some SH members would stick together, even if all of them dont stick on the same boat or island. theyre still a found family, which is more than just friends... & maybe they eventually move off fully years later to start their own seperate families. like what rogers crew did
If luffy dies after the find the one piece, i think most of the SH's dreams have been met & theyre good to go. maybe some will stick together like i mentioned before. but life exists beyond the boat. & we've seen that with rogers & white beards crews. who were extremely familial
Why that one dude hate Sanji so much ? 🤦🏾lol
That’s not a take...because he clearly doesn’t like Sanji 🤷🏾
That’s not a take...because he clearly doesn’t like Sanji 🤷🏾
That’s not a take...because he clearly doesn’t like Sanji 🤷🏾
What did he say that shows his hate?
Literally sticking with a crew and traveling is the best way Zoro could achieve his goal because if the kept going after the one piece it puts them in direct conflict with strong opponents
Zoro and sanji would probably be leaders together but with zoro taking the alpha role and sanji might give zoro a hard time but he respects him because since the kuma situation zoro always steps up and fills that first mate role to the fullest
I feel Robin would be a good leader. The remaining Strawhats would turn more into a Dragon pirate group.
The straw hats would still love each other after luffy dies, but they'll no longer be a crew, just look at rocks', whitebeard's and Rogers' crew... But if i was hard pressed to find a leader I think, Jinbei is most suitable, he's level headed and is also respected by the whole crew
8:25 he’s right I don’t see Zoro actually forming alliances to further complete any plan he makes or the crew makes without luffy. Jinbe can work with everyone and make alliances with other pirates or outsiders. Sanji can too. Zoro is more like action he’s not really gonna formulate plans with other people for the sake of the crew. Unless he swallows his pride but I just don’t see em allying with anyone out the crew fr or liberating people from outside the crew
Zoro we not even about to overcomplicate this
Lmao only one person answered the question, the bald guy with black t-shirt
It was Vivi that taught him how to be a leader.
The only way the crew doesn't disband is if they all decide to continue the journey in honour of luffy. Given that scenario, I dont think there'd be an actual captain. They'd all just do their respective rolls and all decisions would go through everyone.
Saying that the crew would split if luffy died, because nothing else is keeping them together is crazy. They only love/like each other because luffy is present is even crazier. A crew that can barely tolerate each other doesn't survive.
I just finished that Fish-Man Island Arc where the princess is swimming away from the slow Noah, so drawn out…why not just touch the ship and stop it when they first seen it approaching🙄
if luffy dies...the crew will be immediately disbanded
How do we ask a question?
On the show?
I think if luffy died and said “keep the crew together and find the one piece” they would make either follow Jinbae or Nami captain.
I understand and agree with what law was saying, and i also agree with what larry was saying,this time for once all were making sense, but only thing i disagree with the take that strawhats would splitup if luffy passess away before completing his ambition. Yes, luffy brought them all together, but they grew into a family, they have developed relationships and bonds among eachother beyond their common standing of their belief and trust in luffy. To me it seems like that kuffy's ambition of becoming the king of the pirates is as important as their own individual ambition to all of them. Zoro even put luffy and luffy's ambition before his own. And i have no doubt that every other strawhat would do the same, even luffy would do the same. There is no way in hell they would abandon their bonds and relationship under any circumstances.
Whitebeards were the opposite, all of them had gathered under the shadow of one one who they called as pops. When whitebeard died ,even though he wanted his sons to go on with the journey without him, even though it was one of his final wishes, marco, jozzu ,vista and all others just couldn't continue without whitebeard. But the case is different with the strawhats.
I'm pretty sure Rocks was a conqueror and had a bunch of conquerors under him.
The most important thing that everyone don't understand here is that it's not about them anymore it's all about luffy if a straw hat die luffy will continue the journey with the rest but if luffy die that is a whole different story because non of them is gonna follow anyone.
Jinbei is a conqueror, he conquered our hearts as soon as he appeared, showed his middle finger to big mom on her face, in her territory,with all her crew around them. Jinbei and Fischer tiger need to be and announced as conquerors. If two of the strongest and most influential fishmen aren't conquerors then i would start calling oda racist(jk).😂
I can see them sticking together because it is the best way to accomplish their dreams. But I would argue that none of them would accomplish their goal. I think the most important aspect of Luffy is his driving Force which pulls them. Yes Zoro is very ambitious but I think Luffy greatest ability is to inspire outher people to go on and improve
Im sorry, but luffy became a captain the minute they joined the crew.
Discord link ??? Plz
Jimbei, easy, he has the most experience as a captain and holds the most mutual respect from everyone individually..
luffy has always been a great captain and showed leadership skills
Nami is the only oni i can see everyone following
Plus Usopp has the Usopp pirates so you gotta think the next generation of pirates is under him and the rest of the straw hats will follow and go along with the idea but they would have a ranking of how the decisions are made
Usopp Merchant Association (Warriors of the sea ).
3:50- 4:00 I disagree I think they would stay together because the memory of Luffy would still bond them. Nami would obviously set the agenda, Zoro would still continue his quest to beat Mihawk, Sanji still wants the all blue, all their dreams would still be in tact and attainable if Luffy died. Being any given Strawhat was never about following Luffy, but following each of their individual dreams as a team. Those dreams would keep them driving.
Based on the show. The leadership order would be...
2.Zoro- First mate is always next, but he lost all the time, so it automatically goes to #3.
3. Sanji-In Zou, when Luffy& Zoro weren't present, he took the role of Captain.
4.Nami- In Whole Cake, she took charge when none of the 3 were present.
I can definitely see Zoro leading the Strawhats. For a min and they go their separate ways.
13:36 so a "true captain" cannot get defeated Larry?
As a leader, you have to know how to also follow. Luffy following Zoro or nami at times doesn’t mean he’s not a captain
Exactly, any king has advisors, every president has their cabinet etc.
No rulers rule alone or make all the decisions.
Without Luffy there is no adventure
I can see zoro leading with Nami as co. Zoro has stepped up multiple times and Nami has always been the plan maker and level headed one to help keep the crew from killing themselves. Even if they wouldnt have formed without Luffy, They would carry out his will and be done after or die trying. I cant see Luffy dying unless its for his friends, and straw hats repay debuts so what better reason to keep carrying on than for the man who brought them all together and gave them love and made them a family.
With the Sanji and Zoro beef, i think it would be squashed almost instantly the moment they hear luffy dies. they are more like brothers than frienemies. Luffy being around makes them feel safe and that no matter what, luffy will be here to save us. but with that security blanket gone, they wouldnt have room to be bickering. they would be on edge and worried about the crew. I could even see the arguement of Sanji voicing he wants zoro to be the new captain. Sanji works in the background, like with chopper and usopp, supporting his crew, but he wont shy away from speaking up about something serious.
I like how they forgot about the smartest person on the crew - Robin could lead the straw hats don’t know if zoro would follow tho
I feel like if we go the respect angle, they might all elect Jinbei as the new captain, but I don’t know what his goal would be as captain. Zoro would want to get stronger and look for ways for everyone to get stronger, but not much else I don’t think. Sanji would just want to travel looking for the all blue. Nami would want to continue her maps, so in terms of a long term goal that would suit everyone else, Nami is the best choice there.
These were top tier points 9:30 🔥
The Strawhats all care for each other, they all love each other. They would not stay together without Luffy. They all trust each other to do what needs to be done. But their goals are not to aid each other. Their goals are to fulfill their own dream, and Luffy's.
None of them reference any of the others dreams. Other than Luffy's. They all say that he's going to become the Pirate King. That's what they care about.
If Luffy dies there is no straw hats imo. Jimbei would leave the crew and go back to fishman island. Zoro would leave the crew and pursue his goal by himself because his goal doesn’t require a crew he just chooses to follow Luffy specifically. Robin imo would join the Revolutionary army. I think the rest of the crew with Nami, Sanji, Franky, Chopper, ussopp, and Brooke would all stay together on the ship with Nami probably being the leader but it wouldn’t be the straw hats without Zoro or Luffy.