iv got the white win4 2023 edition capped at 7.5t tdp and getting 5 hours playing psx game emulation, if i didn't have the 23 one id be buying this one it is feeling a little soon for them to be bringing out the refresh as its the 3rd one for the win4. Overall I am very happy with my win4 and it has been my go to device for the work day transit and sneaky gaming when the office is quiet!!!
Yeah 5W for PS1 is awesome, also the same for a lot of lower demanding games. The 2024 model does have better battery life at higher TDP but I think at 5W it would be roughly the same. We will do low TDP battery life tests in our round up of best handhelds video in a few months time.
I brought in a few older handhelds from my collection to use in the background of videos. GP32, Gizmondo, SEGA Nomad etc. I was talking to another staff member about them and what they could emulate etc. While the GP32 for example is a bit smaller, the capabilities between that and the Win 4 are worlds apart.
Being a fan of the PSVita this thing is so appealing to me. But that battery life... I might as well just use my desktop if I have to keep it plugged in most of the time.
Keep in mind the battery life test is based on it being 100% in use on full cpu at 28W TDP. You will get far longer battery life if not pushing it to the absolute maximum.
Battery on my 2024 lasts from 3 - 5 or even 6 hours. On last gen AAA games I can easily get 3 + hours with TDP at 8 - 15 range. On emulation it lasts for 6 hours.
It seems that it gives better FSR performance, but after spending 1800 at Droix for the 2023 version and the G1, I think I’ll hold off. Unless Droix will do a good trade in deal 😉
The only reason holding me back is this device has a 60hz screen. I wish it can come with 120hz so I can play side scroll platformers at a high frame rates.
Awesome, thanks for the good unboxing and testing (would have liked to see Cyberpunk 2077), been waiting for something like the GPD Win 4 (2024) to upgrade from my Ayaneo 2 (AMD 6800u) . I really want the Oculink for my GPD G1 which doesn't work reliably with the Ayaneo 2 but I also want the additional A.I. processing as there are rumors that Microsoft will be adding built in upscaling to windows that utilize the NPU processor. Can't wait.
We have the black models in stock, only a few left until the next batch arrives. UK - go.droix.co.uk/UFofIp & Worldwide - go.droix.co.uk/VGO7sB OcuLink works very well with the 2024 model, some of the best scores we have seen so far!
Great Review, do you know which one have better performance between 7840u gpd win 4 model or the One x Fly 7840u, I'm seeking to buy one of those even the 8840u but it is a bit more expensive
You can find them on their website, its on the "GPD OS Firmware" tab on the specific devices Download page. For example this is for the Win 4 2023 & 2024 www.gpd.hk/gpdwin42023firmwaredriver
If you have Gamepass, can you test Madden 24 on this? I think I get slowdowns on my Ally due to the lack of RAM. Curious to see if 32GB and the new APU makes a difference.
Madden requires 10gb ram on the cpu side and 4 gb on the gpu side. The allys has 16gb and it splits it so there's 8gb for gpu and 8gb for cpu. So 32gb would be enough
It is the fastest 8840u device for its size it's even better than the win mini which got a restricted tdp on the 8840u because of the poor cooling so the win 4 is definitely the best choice
Yeah the Win 4 24 is the best option in terms of performance. We still have the MAX 2 24 to test which I think might be the fastest or as good as the Win 4.
Is there any overheating issues with the win 4? Is there ever any issues docking it, using an egpu, maxing out the tdp and playing triple AAA games? Does the external 4g lte module effect cooling? This thing looks super tempting...
I personally have not had any issues with overheating. It will obviously get hot but within reasonable temperatures. If it did get too hot then thermal throttling will kick in, slow down the CPU until it is cool enough. Much the same like PCs etc do when too hot.
@@DroiX_Store thank you! I'll order this from you shortly! Have you had any us customers verify that the 4g LTE module works with Verizon? Do you have the lte version and 64g in stock?
@@matthewbutler4650 They never released the 64GB model, we do have the 32GB models in stock at droix.net/product/gpd-win-4-2024/ and the module at droix.net/product/gpd-win-4-lte-module/ Regarding the module working with Verizon, I haven't heard either way. If it wasn't working then I guess we would have been told. Hope that helps. Thanks.
Battery life costs something. Even if there was 120Hz - it can barely use it in indie and oldest games hitting around 120 fps. If you wish to use it with G1 you will probably use monitor better than native screen anyway. And the screen size... It's just 1 inch away of giant ahh steam deck which is not pocketable in the way GPD WIN 4 is. I wish there was an OLED screen tho!
I don't mind the lack of 120hz but VRR would have incredible. VRR is a game changer for underpowered devices that can't hit 60 fps consistently. Hopefully the 40hz mode will be an ok compromise.
@@Avstract23 We do allow opening up the device. Any destructive mods will not be covered, as will any damage you make. You can replace the controls but these will of course not be covered under the warranty. If any mods are made and there's an issue afterwards we need to decide on case by case as every situation is different.
@@DroiX_Store another question. like if i have the charger plugged in while playing? will it get too hot since it is plugged in for charging but also at the same time playing?
It is just as bad on my desktop PC, I get occasional crashes on that, it's the game more than anything else. But check Windows is up to date and you are using the latest AMD graphics drivers. The current drivers in particular seem to be more stable and have overall higher performance..
Can this be used as a PC if connected to a lapdock in a pinch?... I solely work on Samsung dex via a lapdock... rarely needing Windows... so if needed, can I use this?
@DroiX_Store actually they have HDMI input and wireless (for Dex)... might bite the bullet and get one for gaming and "lite" PC usage when needed... thnks alot for your kind reply...
On the left side of the handheld is a switch to change between mouse and gamepad mode. push the switch to the downwards position to enable the gamepad.
I would be surprised if any games take advantage of the AI features but we will see. There's some nice performance increases in some games and emulators but yes it wont be for every game due to the same 780M GPU.
As mentioned in the review, there are improvements in some games as you can see from the benchmarks. But if a game is GPU hungry then you are not going to see a big difference, its the same GPU as 7xxx series. You will see improved eGPU performance over the 7xxx series though
You can run any Windows software just like a desktop, laptop etc PC. You can run compatible Android through googles new " Google Play Games" software as well, details at play.google.com/googleplaygames
@@WitchDoctor87 Yeah its the same for all of these, as long as they run Windows you can run any software like a desktop PC. But please do check performance compatibility with games. For example you wont be playing the latest AAA game at Ultra graphics quality.
размер как у телефона,так как все им часто пользуются то все будет нормально- если сравнить все с геймплеем каких либо игр в ютубе и сопоставить все с gpd win 4 то...
iv got the white win4 2023 edition capped at 7.5t tdp and getting 5 hours playing psx game emulation, if i didn't have the 23 one id be buying this one it is feeling a little soon for them to be bringing out the refresh as its the 3rd one for the win4. Overall I am very happy with my win4 and it has been my go to device for the work day transit and sneaky gaming when the office is quiet!!!
Yeah 5W for PS1 is awesome, also the same for a lot of lower demanding games. The 2024 model does have better battery life at higher TDP but I think at 5W it would be roughly the same. We will do low TDP battery life tests in our round up of best handhelds video in a few months time.
I'd love to see valve release a steam deck lite that is about this size, I've always wanted one but this just too expensive.
Have this and take it everywhere with me. Still can’t believe how they were able to put all these specs into such a small handheld
I brought in a few older handhelds from my collection to use in the background of videos. GP32, Gizmondo, SEGA Nomad etc. I was talking to another staff member about them and what they could emulate etc. While the GP32 for example is a bit smaller, the capabilities between that and the Win 4 are worlds apart.
My favorite handheld 😊
Me too
I just bought this. Loading my games b 4 I start playing with it 3:26
It looks just like a PSP.
If Sony was to make a new (proper) gaming handheld, it would be this :)
@DroiX_Store instead, they making a handheld that requires PS5 and really good internet
A device that is useless without owning a PS5. what a shame they don't try making a new handheld
Being a fan of the PSVita this thing is so appealing to me. But that battery life... I might as well just use my desktop if I have to keep it plugged in most of the time.
Keep in mind the battery life test is based on it being 100% in use on full cpu at 28W TDP. You will get far longer battery life if not pushing it to the absolute maximum.
Battery on my 2024 lasts from 3 - 5 or even 6 hours. On last gen AAA games I can easily get 3 + hours with TDP at 8 - 15 range. On emulation it lasts for 6 hours.
It seems that it gives better FSR performance, but after spending 1800 at Droix for the 2023 version and the G1, I think I’ll hold off. Unless Droix will do a good trade in deal 😉
The 2023 is still a solid performer. Whilst we currently don't have a buy-back scheme, it is something we might look into in the future.
You know, the steam deck screen is already small enough, in my opinion, I think I might try one of those tablet PCs coming out.
We should have the Minisforum V3 tablet soon for review. We can't wait to check that one out!
Which gaming tablets are coming out?
The only reason holding me back is this device has a 60hz screen. I wish it can come with 120hz so I can play side scroll platformers at a high frame rates.
You may want to check out the GPD WIN Mini instead droix.net/product/gpd-win-mini/
Awesome, thanks for the good unboxing and testing (would have liked to see Cyberpunk 2077), been waiting for something like the GPD Win 4 (2024) to upgrade from my Ayaneo 2 (AMD 6800u) . I really want the Oculink for my GPD G1 which doesn't work reliably with the Ayaneo 2 but I also want the additional A.I. processing as there are rumors that Microsoft will be adding built in upscaling to windows that utilize the NPU processor. Can't wait.
We have the black models in stock, only a few left until the next batch arrives. UK - go.droix.co.uk/UFofIp & Worldwide - go.droix.co.uk/VGO7sB OcuLink works very well with the 2024 model, some of the best scores we have seen so far!
I run cyberpunk on my 6800u with about 50+ mods and get about 1.5 hours at 12-14w 25-30fps
At 6 tflops, Xbox One X, GPD Win 4 at 8.9 tflops, and PS5 at 10 tflops, wonder how the GPD compares
This or the Rog Ally X ? Curious to see what other people think. I can’t decide which one to buy.
We will have a comparison with the GPD Win 4 and ONEXPLAYER X1 and X1 Mini as soon as our ROG Ally X arrives. Subscribe so you won't miss the video!
@@DroiX_Store Just subscribed, thank you 🙏
@@DroiX_Store compare emulator and gaming performance with the ayn odin and the steam deck as well.
Great Review, do you know which one have better performance between 7840u gpd win 4 model or the One x Fly 7840u, I'm seeking to buy one of those even the 8840u but it is a bit more expensive
Check our ONEXFLY review at ua-cam.com/video/bvAauBxNa4Q/v-deo.html it includes benchmarks comparing it to the Win 4 7840U model.
Nice. Whatever happened to the Steam OS for this that was promised some time ago? Is that dead in the water?
You can find them on their website, its on the "GPD OS Firmware" tab on the specific devices Download page. For example this is for the Win 4 2023 & 2024 www.gpd.hk/gpdwin42023firmwaredriver
Sony needs to come back
Everything to push the technology and competition. The PS Portal was $200 at launch. Do you think a new PSP would compete with the Steam Deck?
The BIOS update changes everything. IPU is enabled.
What is IPU?
Heard to not update bios unless you have issues..
I have the 2023 model and it cramps my hands.
You may be better off with a larger handheld like the Win Max 2, ONEXPLAYER X1 Mini or AMD.
Lend me it bro !
If you have Gamepass, can you test Madden 24 on this? I think I get slowdowns on my Ally due to the lack of RAM. Curious to see if 32GB and the new APU makes a difference.
Madden requires 10gb ram on the cpu side and 4 gb on the gpu side. The allys has 16gb and it splits it so there's 8gb for gpu and 8gb for cpu. So 32gb would be enough
Where to buy 4tb variant
You can buy from droix.net/product/gpd-win-4-2024/
Nice review. The only thing holding me back is 60hz. We need 120 at this price
You may be interested in the GPD WIN Mini 2024 which has VRR and 120Hz. ua-cam.com/video/l7VrnGGMYkI/v-deo.html
It is the fastest 8840u device for its size it's even better than the win mini which got a restricted tdp on the 8840u because of the poor cooling so the win 4 is definitely the best choice
Yeah the Win 4 24 is the best option in terms of performance. We still have the MAX 2 24 to test which I think might be the fastest or as good as the Win 4.
Is there any overheating issues with the win 4? Is there ever any issues docking it, using an egpu, maxing out the tdp and playing triple AAA games? Does the external 4g lte module effect cooling?
This thing looks super tempting...
I personally have not had any issues with overheating. It will obviously get hot but within reasonable temperatures. If it did get too hot then thermal throttling will kick in, slow down the CPU until it is cool enough. Much the same like PCs etc do when too hot.
@@DroiX_Store thank you! I'll order this from you shortly! Have you had any us customers verify that the 4g LTE module works with Verizon? Do you have the lte version and 64g in stock?
@@matthewbutler4650 They never released the 64GB model, we do have the 32GB models in stock at droix.net/product/gpd-win-4-2024/ and the module at droix.net/product/gpd-win-4-lte-module/
Regarding the module working with Verizon, I haven't heard either way. If it wasn't working then I guess we would have been told. Hope that helps. Thanks.
@@DroiX_Store thank you! The module uses a USB c slot? Are they still planning on releasing the 64g model?
@@matthewbutler4650 Yeah it uses a USB port. There won't be a 64GB model for the Win 4 2024
The big problem it's the screen size and HZ ...
No Vrr and No 120Hz ...
Battery life costs something. Even if there was 120Hz - it can barely use it in indie and oldest games hitting around 120 fps. If you wish to use it with G1 you will probably use monitor better than native screen anyway. And the screen size... It's just 1 inch away of giant ahh steam deck which is not pocketable in the way GPD WIN 4 is.
I wish there was an OLED screen tho!
OLED 90hz is better than IPS 120hz.
Such a child,...no vrr no this no that.
I don't mind the lack of 120hz but VRR would have incredible. VRR is a game changer for underpowered devices that can't hit 60 fps consistently. Hopefully the 40hz mode will be an ok compromise.
You're a baby 😂
What portable battery do you recommend for this device? I plan on taking this on a 4 hour plane ride
I have not personally tried any power banks, it would need to be quite powerful if you are maxing out playing games.
Nice idea to list display specs in overview (not)
need hall sticks
Have they finally put hall effect joy sticks on it?
Nope. Still alps 3d but there are hall effect sticks (apparrently the rog ally / win 4 are the same in terms of the replacement thats for sale)
Im wondering about your 2 year warranty.. ? 1200 dollar cart needs some reassuring lol
All GPD products we sell have a two year warranty. If there are any issues then we deal with it, return to us for repair or replacement as needed.
@@DroiX_Storewhat if we do modifications to gpd win 4, such as use hall effect Thumbsticks, can i still use warranty?
@@Avstract23 We do allow opening up the device. Any destructive mods will not be covered, as will any damage you make. You can replace the controls but these will of course not be covered under the warranty. If any mods are made and there's an issue afterwards we need to decide on case by case as every situation is different.
whats the screen's latency and response time in miliseconds
We do not have this information, but we have asked GPD if they have it. I will update here if we get the details.
GPD said it is 32ms
Can we charge while playing just like with laptops?
You can. I often have my charger plugged in while playing.
@@DroiX_Store nice to hear that. thanks so much!!
@@DroiX_Store another question. like if i have the charger plugged in while playing? will it get too hot since it is plugged in for charging but also at the same time playing?
looks like the sony psp
Is it possible for someone to swap the 7840u with the 8840 motherboard instead of buying a new device?
We haven't had the time to do a teardown of the 2024 model. But I have a feeling that it could be possible.
@@DroiX_Store have you been able to confirm this?
@@Rashimotosan We haven't had any time to check this, sorry. It means we have to disassemble both models which can take some time.
Is better Experience that rog ally z1 extreme?
A better experience is something for the end user to consider. Personally I prefer the Win 4, great form factor and faster performance.
Any ideas on why my system crashes when playing COD
It is just as bad on my desktop PC, I get occasional crashes on that, it's the game more than anything else. But check Windows is up to date and you are using the latest AMD graphics drivers. The current drivers in particular seem to be more stable and have overall higher performance..
The CPU is as fast as a ryzen 7 5800X3D lol. Next gen will be faster than a 14900ks.
Can this be used as a PC if connected to a lapdock in a pinch?... I solely work on Samsung dex via a lapdock... rarely needing Windows... so if needed, can I use this?
If the lapdock has USB or HDMI input then you could use it like a portable monitor. I think these monitors only work wirelessly with Dex though?
@DroiX_Store actually they have HDMI input and wireless (for Dex)... might bite the bullet and get one for gaming and "lite" PC usage when needed... thnks alot for your kind reply...
@@ASB1401 If it has HDMI then you can use USB-C to HDMI from one of our hubs of docks at droix.net/product-category/accessories/
How do I get the system to recognize the built in controller
On the left side of the handheld is a switch to change between mouse and gamepad mode. push the switch to the downwards position to enable the gamepad.
@@DroiX_Store thank you I forgot about that
Its just a rebranding with an AI feature that will improve a limited set if games with a few extra FPS nothing more nothing less.
I would be surprised if any games take advantage of the AI features but we will see. There's some nice performance increases in some games and emulators but yes it wont be for every game due to the same 780M GPU.
Maybe a new fsr with ai
8840u +\- =7840u
As mentioned in the review, there are improvements in some games as you can see from the benchmarks. But if a game is GPU hungry then you are not going to see a big difference, its the same GPU as 7xxx series. You will see improved eGPU performance over the 7xxx series though
Can i ask is the gpd win 4 international
You can use it anywhere in the world. It is standard Windows 11 OS so it has support for different languages etc.
Litterally Psp 2
Yeah its not far off, great handheld!
Can this run Steam and get all my Android games?
You can run any Windows software just like a desktop, laptop etc PC. You can run compatible Android through googles new " Google Play Games" software as well, details at play.google.com/googleplaygames
@@DroiX_Store is this the same for the WIN mini. Thank you for the reply
@@WitchDoctor87 Yeah its the same for all of these, as long as they run Windows you can run any software like a desktop PC. But please do check performance compatibility with games. For example you wont be playing the latest AAA game at Ultra graphics quality.
psp win 4
Sylvester Prairie
Nice device but the screen size 🤦🏼 too small
размер как у телефона,так как все им часто пользуются то все будет нормально- если сравнить все с геймплеем каких либо игр в ютубе и сопоставить все с gpd win 4 то...
Damn...63db is LOUD.
This is around the lower average end of the fan noise on handhelds. There are other handhelds at around 67 dB and even as high as 74.