Pretty sure you would win. The base model Mark VII cost more than a Cadillac new. And was a much better built car. The Mark series was always Ford's pinnacle. I had a 1983 Mark VI until recently and the only option that car had was a power passenger seat and digital dash delete, as the digital dash was standard. The window sticker was $25,000. And there were plenty of options you could add. The most expensive Cadillac the same year was $21,000 fully optioned.
Never mind 1991, it's 2024, I'm 51 now and I think I want a personal luxury coupe. This car is basically a 5.0 Mustang wearing a suit and tie and it's awesome.
I had an 86! Black on black. My seats were a lot 'sportier' looking than these, though. Still stock, but they had like 10-way adjustable seats with much more aggressive bolstering than what was in this video.
I had an 87 for 4 years as my first car I enjoyed the time when I had the car got me from a to b in comfort. also fun fact idt anyone cares but my car was in a Disney movie. the one and only Ivan they needed car’s pretty bad for the 80’ and 90’ section because not a lot of people had them in good shape my granddad was driving it in the film.
@@careycummings9999 I agree. Everything from the rear wheels to the front screams muscle car if it was set up right with appropriate sized wheels/tires, and set at the right height.
There was a cougar of a redheaded forman at my work who drove one of these. Smoke danglin out of her mouth. Hair from 1987. It was 2016. She was great lol
Mr. Regular and Roman, your videos have become part of my Monday morning routine. Thank you for providing great videos to help make the start of the week bearable.
When Ford decided to discontinue the Thunderbird (the first time) after 1997, former director of SVO and NASCAR team owner Michael Kranefuss wanted to keep the RWD tradition alive. He and his team prepped a prototype for the 1998 season based on this car’s successor, the Mark VIII, and pitched it to Ford. They shot them down because they thought that racing would hurt Lincoln’s image, but I would’ve loved to see that!
@@jordantomblin2302 I’d argue that’s a bit different. The BPOs were more analogous to Mercury, not Lincoln. Actually, they might’ve been receptive to the idea if it was a Mercury. There were Cougars in the Busch series as recently as 1984, and other Mercurys in the Cup series in 1976. Lincoln HAS been in NASCAR, though. In fact, the winner of the first race ever (Jim Roper) was driving a Lincoln. From what I can gather, though, it was only in those early days and never in any sort of official, factory-backed capacity.
I enjoyed working the auto auctions as a temp. I did apply to one in SE Michigan in 2005, and they did offer me a full-time job, but it was for, like, $7.30/hr and I had just gotten a better offer, so I told them "Thanks, but no thanks."
I worked there for a summer driving cars on the lot at the Fontana CA location. because of that I’ve got to drive basically every luxury car around because nobody on my crew knew how to drive a stick
They're cool now because they are nostalgic. In the late 90's they definitely were not cool, I remember. But to be fair that's pretty common for most higher end vehicles. The new ones and the classic ones are the sought after ones. The stuff that's in that 10-15 year old range is just old hat. Not new enough to turn heads, not old enough to be a classic.
@@100percentSNAFU I was too young when they were new but I've always thought they were cool, at least since the early aughts. Same goes for the early nineties Eldorado. Just great timeless designs.
I thought they were a cool fat 5.9 mustang back in the day. But the fox mustangs were so cheap I never bothered with one of these till a few years back.
My dad chose this over the supra in 87', bought another in 89' when the first one was totaled by a station wagon and has kept it mint to this day. Having driven both, he does not regret his decision, which must say something considering the praise people sing for the mk3 supra.
@@atomicrust574 Hey…302s will literally run forever if they’re maintained. There’s a reason they’re still one of the most common performance builds out there.
My dad had a burgundy on burgundy '86 Olds 88 brougham. It was dripping with burgundy, from the paint job to the seats, to the steering wheel, to the landau roof 😂
The 80s in a nutshell. I had an '89 Caravan. Everything in it was red, except the fake wood grain on the cassette tape storage cubby. It was like being in a blood cell.
A few years ago the maintenance guy at my apartment complex had one of these in green that was a survivor, a really sweet ride. He used to keep it in the maintenance garage and only drove it in the summer. Then one day I witnessed him get a DWI in it after driving the LSC across the lawn to get to a phone quickly when an apartment caught fire.
I’ve always like that car…only ever see them in silver,dark blue and black…last spotted one in 2017. black, faded paint,rusted out and smoking at a traffic next to me… gave the guy a thumbs up- guy looked over at me like I was crazy 🤣
Not gonna lie. This was a very lusted after car by high school gearhead teenage boys in the 1980's. It was body on frame, rear wheel drive, and V8 power. The clock was ticking on all these cars from the big 3 by 1984 and by 1990 FoMoCo was the only game in town if you wanted a 2-door coupe that fit this criteria. I say this as a GM guy at heart. I want it. Damn me for turning into Uncle Pulltab, but for the love of God I want some notstalgia in my automotive world, and this car brings me back to being 21 and having hope, and stuff... Don't ever change RCR.
I really miss the 2-door personal luxury coupes of the eighties. I owned an '86 T-Bird in high school and this Lincoln was kinda like its much bigger, much brawnier older brother. I really couldn't care less whether the spare tire hump on the trunklid was functional or not. It just adds to this car's unique level of coolness. In today's automotive lansdcape where practically everything on the road is some dull, cookie-cutter SUV, survivor cars dripping with as much style as this Lincoln should be celebrated.
The Ford Fox platform isn't body-on-frame, it's unibody - but you're not a Ford guy so no harm no foul. I'm surprised anyone paid attention to these things back in the day, I sure didn't. My gearhead buddies and I all wanted 60's and 70's muscle, not knowing that we were soon to be priced out of the market when the first Hemi 'Cuda hit $100,000 at auction.
@@hypocycloidiaspora Yeah, GM guy so I thought these were still body on frame. We wanted old muscle too, I was daily driving a 1973 Z/28 RS/LT to high school in 86. Other guys had 57 Chevys, 63 Impala, 75 Grand Prix, Lots of early 70's F-bodies and late 60's early 70's full size from the big 3. This was 84-88. G-Body GM stuff and the FoMoCo stuff was the new cars that everyone wanted. The guys just 4 or 5 years older than us kind of ran through the 60 muscle stuff by 84 or so. The old Chevelles, Monte's, Chargers etc.
Change your name a bit, perhaps Jimmy or Jimbo which is more endearing. When you’re Jimbo you still get love even when you suck. I can’t explain the science behind that but I’ve seen a pattern over the years. Jimbo makes it to where someone might dare to accuse of being the neighbourhood loser but the majority of the town will step in and defend you. If you’re just a Jim then they won’t have your back. When you’re Jimbo then suddenly you’re this lovable underdog instead of a creep where everyone is just waiting for them to die so they aren’t Being gross driving around in creepy cars all day.
Dude, about 2 years ago, my old man bought one to flip, and I made every excuse I could to take that thing out for a spin. Imagine one of those with only 11000 mi on it in 2022! It was an absolute time capsule, especially with the surprisingly cohesive interior, and that quad cam modular was a real treat. Wish I could have justified buying it off him, but oh well. I'd probably be singing a different tune once the fancy suspension went.
I owned a red '95 Mark VIII LSC in college that I'd bought for $900 back in 2016. Fantastic car, and relatively reliable even with 200k+ on it (after swapping the air suspension for coil springs). I emailed RCR about reviewing it a few times, but never heard back. It's a shame, because I feel like that it's a very unappreciated competitor to the SC400 and maybe even the 840Ci.
@@zlinedavid As an enthusiast, I agree that a 5-speed would have been fantastic behind the InTech V8. But manual-loving enthusiasts weren't buying Lincolns with $40k stickers ($83k in 2024) back then, and manufacturers don't build cars for the used market. The Mark VIII was a tech showcase just as much as it was a car, and in 1993 Ford was desperate to show off their new iteration of the AOD, the 4R70W. Ford did offer a personal luxury coupe with a 5-speed during that era, though; the Thunderbird Super Coupe. With a supercharged and intercooled 3.8L V6 producing 240 hp/330 lb-ft mated to a heavy duty Mazda M5OD 5-speed and IRS with an LSD, the Super Coupe and its Mercury sibling, the Cougar XR7, was capable of mid-to-low 15 second quarter mile passes.
@@engineer_alv You’re good. The MkVIII is an acceptable guilty pleasure car. I’m 40, and swapping a 6MT into a ‘98 MkVIII has been one of my “If I win the lottery” projects for 15 years.
You actually CAN control that 2-3 shift on an AOD. Next time you’re driving one, try this… start in 1. When you want 2nd, shift up to drive, then drop it back into 1 until you want third gear. The governor wont let the transmission go back into first so it’ll lock you into second gear until you shift up again. Then select overdrive when you want 4th.
The secret to cars like this is to buy them when they are two years old. After two years you could pick one of these up for about 50 cents on the dollar because of the way they depreciate but they were still new enough that everything on them still worked. You got a really nice car for not a lot of money.
Your main critique of "Who wants a yesteryear personal Luxury car" makes no sense because the 1991 Mercedes 560 (SEL) coupe had been using the same W126 platform since 1981 and the E24 BMW 6 series was in production from 1976 to 1989. Lincoln was clearly trying to compete with Mercedes not Honda and Toyota as you eluded to (that's why ford made the mustang and Taurus, which correct me if I'm wrong, sold very well) not to mention Lexus made the SC400, a "personal Luxury coupe" with big comfy leather seats. So with Mercedes being the target (In case you didn't know, Lincoln is Fords Luxury brand) this car was an incredibly affordable option given the $75 000 base price of the Mercedes. It's an odd car but I think it has a certain charm, all these years later if you bought that Mercedes used and wanted to keep it in running condition you'd need to spend as much money as buying a new one where as this is a quirky, inexpensive used car that uses a bunch of Mustang parts, you could probably get one cheaper than a Fox body (whose styling isn't to everyone's taste) and keep it alive on Rock Auto parts. It's a cheap, beater Hodrod a younger car enthusiast can afford to mess around with and not have to sink their entire bank account into, in terms of the Air ride, it's not expensive to go to a spring shop and replace it. Also, coaxial drivers are in some of the best speakers ever made (Tannoy, kef ls50, Tad, Altec 604) and those JBL car systems from that Era are Fantastic. A $1300 car that you can drive home? How can you complain? No, I don't have one.
Agreed, this was still an era where the American companies were trying to complete with the likes of Mercedes and BMW. They still didn't take the Japanese makers seriously (which was a grave mistake in retrospect). It took a lot of American consumers a long time to take the Japanese makers seriously, outside of the West Coast, to be honest. There was still sentiment by many in the early 90's that Japanese cars were junky econoboxes. That view changed for me when my dad bought a 1993 Accord. The American auto makers really shifted towards competing with the Japanese later on in the late 90s into the 2000s.
@@100percentSNAFU My Father had a used 90' Q45 and it probably did everything this car did and was faster and more spacious with 4 doors and the drive train was amazingly solid, now that they're very old and will need replacement parts, I would say the Lincoln is still a better buy for someone who wants a cheap hotrod. My Grandparents also had a 91' and 01' Camry from the factory and they were great cars. The Japanese make great cars or CAN make great cars, there's no doubt about it. However, especially in the case of the Infinity, which got significantly worse over time and now makes cars that are arguably less reliable than the American manufactures, I think there's a lot to be said for someone trying to build there reputation and proving themselves to the world, even the Toyota models declined in quality from the ones I mentioned, although not nearly as much of some other manufactures. In the case of the European car manufactures, by the late 1970's and early 80's Europe had rebuilt it's self from absolute ruins after ww2, they had basically rebuilt their civilization from the brink of collapse and I think the European cars from that Era reflect that. Japan had even more to prove as they had never had respect globally for their manufactured goods where as America was entering the era of Walmart and rubbermaid. I think people love to believe that things that are Japanese or European are inherently better and the fact is, they really aren't, there is Honda, Toyota and Mazda and then there are many Japanese car brands that are actually much worse in terms of quality than American vehicles and don't even get me started on modern European cars, they have taken a nosedive in quality at least as far as the Americans if not worse. Even during this era, the panther body vehicles Ford made are some of the longest lasting and easiest to maintain cars built in the history of the automobile. The decline of the American auto manufacturer in the 90's came hand in hand with globalization and the walmart/rubbermaid/enron corporate mentality of letting accountants run companies with little or no thought to the future and absolute focus on making as much money as possible in the present. The Japanese kept a more old school philosophy, focusing on making quality things that last (at least during this era) and it paid off for them. At one time, Americans did the same thing and even so, I've had Old integra and Saturn Ion beaters and other than feeling a bit tighter in the corners, I can't really say the integra was a more reliable/cheaper to maintain econobox, it actually rotted out a lot worse than the Saturn. People love branding and marketing a lot more than doing research. As soon as you hear that a culture creates superior products the chances are within a generation they won't, the point being, the underdog always has the edge.
You're not wrong in any of this. The one thing that's missing though is to look at it in context of the mid 80's when it was in its heyday. Nothing looked quite like it on the road and it had presence. Even into the 90's when American roads were populated by equal parts boxy K-Cars and melted-blob Japanese cars, these were pretty striking. They had a purposeful look to them and did still find people who loved them. Sure, by 1991 the sheen was off and Ford had been trying for a couple of years to replace the Mustang with the Ford Probe. Ford deliberately downplayed the Mustang / Mk VII because they wanted rid of that platform and didn't really want to build a Lincoln on the Probe chassis as they already had early development going on the Mk VIII. It was already late in its run and I think they were only still selling it in 1991 in order to eke a bit more money out of the Fox platform. I never owned a Mk VII but admit to always noticing them on the road in the late 1990's. I had test driven one once and knew it was a terrible car which is why I never owned one, but like a lot of cars of the time I saw it as a pretty timeless piece of styling. Of course, by then I was driving a Subaru SVX but that's a whole different story :)
I've been watching RCR for years and the commentary is still just as good or even better than the first videos I watched. The Lehigh Valley/Eastern PA references get me every time. Keep up the good work bro!!!
My first car was a 1984 Lincoln Mark VII, a “gift” from my father who purchased a low mile 1992 LSC.. The 84’, AOD trans was shot, the airbag suspension would over inflate or go into low rider mode depending on the vehicles mood at any given time.. the Earl Scheib paint just was ahead of its time; as flat black is now a popular wrap choice for those looking to stand out from the other model 3’s on the road.. The 5.0 wasn’t the HO, it was dual fuel injected in a bastardized carburetor but man; I had a 5-Oh under the hood! It’s crazy what you will fondly look back on when you start with such a skewed view of automotive culture. All that said, taking his 1992 to Home coming I felt like I was in a god damn rocket ship with all the modern conveniences a big wig would enjoy.
Damn bro - now I'm sorry to have hounded you all these years to do a review on one! This was my first car and it was fantastic - I'd give a nut to get one in as good a shape as mine was. I later had a GF with a (88?) Merc S Class, and the interior, power, mileage, of that thing couldn't hold a candle to the Mark VII. I want a re-review by the Roman, damn it!
A car for people living in 1975. Lol. Yup. It was crazy to see people still driving American boats in 1990. Most sensible people had moved on to sensible foreign sedans by that point.
@@rattlehead999 better than this car would not be a stretch. But yes. Lexus etc were quality. While the Lincoln and caddys were still trying to offer the cushy boat ride with some midling handling ability to hold on to their aging demo the imports were hitting just the right balance.
@@Koexistence13 Yeah, I would like to ride one of those old american boaty cars, but there are next to none in Europe. Otherwise the 60s muscle cars are pure gold.
Omg the interior of this car makes me want to drive it on my way to grandma’s house between thanksgiving and xmas after the first snow of the season. Just this red capsule whisking you through an ocean of white while manheim steamroller plays in the background
I know there's no compelling business case but I do wish FoMoCo had said "you know what, we can make a two-door version of the Taurus SHO and stick the Thunderbird badge on it...should be easy enough."
@@JebHoge I’ve long considered myself an aficionado of oddball mid 80s-mid 90s cars…..and this is the first time I’ve ever seen this idea…and it is brilliant.
Oh yeah, I can SMELL this thing. A car like this might’ve been ASPIRATIONAL to many of the middle-aged people that populated the small town I grew up in the middle of nowhere, western Nevada. They were mostly driving around in this car’s predecessor and other American sedans and coupes from the ‘70s and early ‘80s (at that point, WAY past their sell-by date), and I’d see them hacking up a lung when they got out to go into the pizza place or liquor store, or yelling at some kid with a rat tail. 🤣
Yes, these all come with the factory required package for stale smoke and burned holes in the seats. Ashtray stuffed full of butts with lipstick on the ends was optional.
They also kept developing the legendary Ford 300 six into the Barra. The Aussies are the only other people on the planet (outside America) that understand musclecars. R.I.P Ford of Australia.
"Big heavy boat"... "lurches around"... my man, it's a 33 year old car with 200K+ on it, and I'll bet if it doesn't have the factory shocks and struts they're at least a decade old. For some reason the shocks on the Fox never seem to outright fail but settle into a permanent 'baby buggy' mode that most people wouldn't even care to fix because they don't drive hard enough to really notice. Oh, and it's only 3800 pounds. It's one passenger heavier than the SC400. It's (holy shit) 1,590 pounds LIGHTER than a 2024 BMW M5.
I can't wait till RCR gets. Lincoln Mark 8. I was fortunate enough to have one of those in high school in 2004. I always looked at these as the grandpa version of my high school Mark 8
These cars were cool as hell then and hella cool now. My neighbor had one new in 89 LSC and he was in his 30s. He had a gray one and it had a killer sound system for the time and he babied that thing til he traded it for a 98 Navigator and whoaaaaa was he the man to be in the neighborhood.
I had a gray on red 1989 LSC for about a year and a half that was in below average shape, but had the same color interior. It was such a hilarious experience, I loved that car with a passion even though I had lost my job right after buying it. I’d have another one in a second. This is New Jersey, the car.
As an Australian I think American cars of the malaise era generally look terrible, but I quite like this. Most 80s American cars looked stuck in the 70s, while this looks really sleek and contemporary. I see hints of W124 Mercedes and E24 6er in the styling. I’ve noticed Lincolns from the 80s are kind of interesting looking compared to the boxy blandness of 80s GM luxury cars. Weirdly 1991 was the year Ford Australia reintroduced a V8 option for the Falcon and it was a fuel injected 5 litre Windsor and they crowed about what a big deal it was, when it was a 30 year old design
It's funny, because the one time I had a real plan to get one of these in the '90s, I passed because of that trip computer. Don't hand me something with gadgets that don't work. Otherwise I had a pretty good time with it. Now, there's a really low mileage '87 available for 64K. That's the price, it has 15K on the odometer. Someone must be liking these still, besides me. The spare tire hump is something that dates back to the Mark II. They actually tried to delete it from the Mark VIII, but it turned out to be more aerodynamic with it in place, so the Mark VIII had an even more vestigial tire hump. I liked that every time you mentioned Lexus, you showed a picture of a SC400. The SC series, and its JDM counterpart, the Soarer, were exactly the same basic type of car as the Lincoln Mark VII, but with a different set of styling traditions to follow, these mainly being the shape of the roofline and the rear of the door opening, which angles forward. The rear seat of both cars say that you can ride with us, there's perhaps enough room, but we'd prefer that you did not. On this car being the car of losers, take a long hard look at the second or third owner of any luxury car. Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, they too shall end up on the wrong side of the tracks where I live. I once recently saw a older, well dressed couple drive a LS400 to a local country club and the experience took me completely by surprise. ... Though one were strong as seven, He too with death shall dwell. Nor wake with wings in heaven Nor weep for pains in hell; Though one were fair as roses His beauty clouds and closes And well though love reposes In the end it is not well... The Gardens of Proserpine Algernon Charles Swinburne Four wheel drive, for its practicality in some parts of this country, is today's padded vinyl roof. Light bars are the new opera lamps. We call it a sport utility vehicle because some people gag and practically throw up at the words "station wagon". The side profile of a crew cab pickup truck with a 5.5 foot bed is terribly close to that of a 1988 Chrysler New Yorker. Someday, those thing will also pass...
I have an 83 mk VI I bought at an equipment acuction for $300 a few years ago. A car from the 80's that feels like a car from the 70's and to tie it off a drivetrain from the 60's.
This has the exact same powertrain as I had in my '90 Mustang GT convertible, which weighed about 900 lb less. Looks like the same assembly quality (not a complement). Long live the Fox Body!
The fact that this was being sold at the same time as my 1991 LS400 is borderline unbelievable. I thought the Lexus was quaintly ‘90s when I picked it up five years ago, but by comparison? Welcome to the future.
Looking back at it now, the unseen problem was at a Lincoln/Mecury dealership. Why get a Mark when an Cougar was thousands cheaper (minus some features, of course). Ford finally separated the coupes after 97, starting with Cougar turned into the Probe in '99, but mismanagement caused the T-bird / LS/ Mustang based Mark replacement to be canceled by the early '00s...
@@ljmorris6496 For me (who was driving at the time) the top car of the Fox Body cars, was the Thunderbird Super Coupe. It was a sin that engine never made it into the stock Mustang, but with a "premium" Thunderbird, it did make both the Cougar and Mark 7 look superfluous.
This is a car that my uncle would've driven. And he did. He was permanently stuck in the 1970s and nobody could push him out of there, not even in the 00's. He was a type of person who gave me Sony Walkman in 2002. for my birthday. Or a 35mm analog SLR camera from 1965 which he picked up for $3.00 at a garage sale. The clothes he would be wearing were also from either a flea market or Goodwille and it would smell like moth pesticide, because someone had it hanging closet for 30 years before he decided to get rid of it. The car had a broken lock on the passenger side forever. He would be also the person, thinking that this is a regular car that everyone should be buying. A definition of a car. This is it, peak technology. R.I.P. He was a good guy anyway.
YES! A friend of mine had one of these a dozen years ago, and he swore it was a panty dropper. After he put the Borla cat back exhaust on it, it sounded like it could be something too. But we live in a 25mph town, so yeah. There ya go.
Yep, and in a few years when they get a little money to spend, they’re gonna drive the prices of those cars through the roof. If you’re in the market for a big square American car, now is the time to get your hands on one.
My uncle TJ bought one used after his 86 Cougar got totaled. He threw in work tools in the truck and drove to work in it regularly for a few years. Then replaced it with a Sebring convertible. 😊
My aunt had one of these! Drove it up until about 1997-98 or so. In their rural Minnesota neighborhood it was indeed very fast and comfortable on the sweeping 2-lane roads, especially when every other vehicle was an old farm truck or tractor. Absolutely right about getting one nice and fresh with everything working too; I think she ditched it at the first sign of electrical gremlins.
Oh no way I just got on an RCR kick after the last few years and I've already watched like five videos and I see this this morning, this was my grandparents car 20 years ago they bought a brand new and only put $30,000 mi on it until they passed away and we sold it in like 2014 I used to love this thing and think it was so special because of how they treated it this is awesome!... And now after watching for 5 minutes just yesterday realized I'm now 36 and the only one of my friends that doesn't have a house and a marriage and kids.... And feel so incredibly attacked I might cry. We sold it for 2400 in 2015 with 38k miles
I usually drive T/As but I got one of these for 500 bucks in good shape. I like the gadgets and how plush it is inside like driving around in your living room. The air suspension worked great in a straight line but turning body roll was insane and it has sway bars. Air suspension finally gave out and I threw a set of aftermarket variable rate mustang springs on it made a huge difference. I also like the cornering lamps. You forgot to mention the big selling point for the time " Aircraft style doors". I drove that thing for about a year then I went back to my trusty T/As.
This was my first car at age 19 in 2007 - a Mark VII LSC I bought it for $2,500. The guy I bought it from had put some sick Cobra rims and a scoop on the hood to pretend it was fast. My friends and I absolutely loved it. The back seat was a fucking COUCH and it just trundled along the highway like a lazy American V8 - 75 MPH and probably 900 RPM. There will never be anything like these landyachts again. I love this car. Thanks for posting this video - even if you fail to understand the greatness of this floaty piece of shit and completely fail to understand how AWESOME it was. It was comfy as hell, had a huge hood and just plodded along in incomparable comfort. It's the dogshit Buick Grand National and it rules for that.
The same buyer for this car in 1991 is the same buyer I see in the Buick lot now just still living off brand recognition they have from the 80’s. Adjusted for inflation this is 70k in todays money 😂
My grandparents bought a 1987 MK7 LSC in 87’! My grandfathers name was Jim 😆! They both loved the car, making it one of their favorite cars they ever had. They got new cars about every two years but they always talked about how much they missed their “silver bullet”
I have a 1988 lincoln town car with 5.0L the main reason the car makes 150 hp is for the better fuel economy it has a very lazy cam in it but good for torque thats also why that intake is shaped like how it is. The real killer is actually the transmission good old AOD transmission reliable but steals so much hp and torque.
My dad always bought Lincolns that were a year old under the "executive car" program. He would keep them a few years and get another. For the time, they were nice. His final one was a MkVIII. It was actually a pretty good car, faster than a Mustang and it actually looked good.
I had an 88 LSC in college in the early 2000s. It was the highest quality car ever made by Ford, with beautiful paint, interior and those cool factory headers. It was definitely anachronistic, but to my 70s loving soul, it was just great, a rejection of tuner culture and grunge music. I now have an 80 Seville, which is even more 70s, with an overstuffed interior, proper 3- speed automatic and the ultra-light steering that the Mark VII didn't have.
I have my Granny's '89 LSC, which she only drove to the store and the bank, smoking Benson & Hedges with the windows up and the A/C recycling the smoke and ashes.
maybe its a generational thing between me and rcr but i think these sort of cars are sick. if i was american id have one, or another big boaty car like it
Thanks for the review. I had an 88 LSC in the early 2000s in college. It was a very posh car and had quality that no Ford before or after ever equalled. It was anachronistic, but so am I. As a Ricardo Montalban-worshipping fan of big collars, shag carpeting, fake wood and long hoods, it caught the interest of my 70s-loving soul. The Mark VII was a proud rejection of tuner culture and grunge music. Today, my 80s car is a 1980 Seville, which is more my style, with an overstuffed 70s style interior and the ultra light steering that was missing on the Euro-wannabe LSC.
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You should make a video on the Toyota t100! Been looking at a lot of them would be cool to see a video on one and get some more information
I love ur jokes as ur biggest black fan. I'm blacker than mean joe green never sharing his jersey for coca-cola.
was and still is one of my favorite Lincolns
Am I the only one who legitimately enjoys how it looks?
You are not alone
I think it's beautiful , i have an 89 mustang convertible, 5.0 automatic with red interior
I do too. I also owned a 93', and 97' T-Bird. Both were great.
@@bernie472 Whoa! My Ex had a 91 and 97 T-Birds. They were damn nice cars. Drove the 97 to Colorado and all over the Rockies, great GT car.
Much more fun to drive verses the Taurus based Continental and light years better than the Town Car!
The fact that these came in Turbo Diesel is insane
As a European I find it makes the car all the more appealing, even though I'm sure it was a reasonably unrefined lump by today's standards.
That's the only good engine it came with the rest are unrefined underpowered lumps of cast iron
@@seb_1504 it was an underpowered BMW unit.
A BMW M21
Define good engine.. because these engines can still be pulled out I. Junk yards and fire right up in your next swap….
If your defense lawyer pulls up to the courthouse with this car, you're screwed.
If your lawyer had this in the 2010s you were fucked
Oh shit 😂lol
I'll do you one better, if your lawyer has this in 2024....
@@Jay-jb2vr...you be getting the death penalty 😂
Pretty sure you would win. The base model Mark VII cost more than a Cadillac new. And was a much better built car. The Mark series was always Ford's pinnacle. I had a 1983 Mark VI until recently and the only option that car had was a power passenger seat and digital dash delete, as the digital dash was standard. The window sticker was $25,000. And there were plenty of options you could add. The most expensive Cadillac the same year was $21,000 fully optioned.
Never mind 1991, it's 2024, I'm 51 now and I think I want a personal luxury coupe. This car is basically a 5.0 Mustang wearing a suit and tie and it's awesome.
The next generation mark 8 was better
@@hotrodandrube9119
I loved the way the Mark 8 looked, but that 3 or 4 valve(I don't remember which it was) modular engine was a problem.
@@srmurc6zo6 the Mark 8 had the 4 valve 4.6, like the Cobra Mustangs.
Do it!
@@EdDale44135right! lol an engine that was legendary. I think the humor of this guys reviews are not necessarily aimed at car enthusiasts
The Mustang after marriage and 2 kids.
So many mustang parts in that Lincoln. Perfect
😂👏🏼💯
Separated of course
2 kids he does not have custody of
2 stepkids*
I have been waiting for this RCR for 10 years. I had a black '87 back in 2014
I had an 86! Black on black. My seats were a lot 'sportier' looking than these, though. Still stock, but they had like 10-way adjustable seats with much more aggressive bolstering than what was in this video.
I had an 87 for 4 years as my first car I enjoyed the time when I had the car got me from a to b in comfort. also fun fact idt anyone cares but my car was in a Disney movie. the one and only Ivan they needed car’s pretty bad for the 80’ and 90’ section because not a lot of people had them in good shape my granddad was driving it in the film.
I would love to restomod one of these. Coyote, updated suspension, tubular subframes. All black with chrome highlights. I think they are beautiful.
My neighbor had one with Ls swap. Drives like a modern car now and gets better fuel mileage
It still looks great today for real
I always wanted to get one and send the trunk lid out and have the phony spare bump removed. I think it would have made it much less Old Man.
@@careycummings9999 I agree. Everything from the rear wheels to the front screams muscle car if it was set up right with appropriate sized wheels/tires, and set at the right height.
I think even a T5 swap would've made wonders in this platform. AODs are dogs...
There was a cougar of a redheaded forman at my work who drove one of these.
Smoke danglin out of her mouth. Hair from 1987. It was 2016.
She was great lol
Plot twist: it’s Hawk Tuah girl’s mom
Gotta love Texas.
That’s hot!
@@illegal_space_alien Texas? Hell this was in Ontario Canada lol
@@yjwrangler7819 Did the carpet match the curtains, or was it a hardwood floor?
1991 Lincoln MK7: When you want the luxury of a Cadillac, the performance of a Buick Grand National, and get neither.
@@skrachvynl 1991 Lincoln MkVII: We have Lexus LS400 at home.
You sound ignorant
Mr. Regular and Roman, your videos have become part of my Monday morning routine. Thank you for providing great videos to help make the start of the week bearable.
My pleasure!
It's an honor to be part of the routine!
When Ford decided to discontinue the Thunderbird (the first time) after 1997, former director of SVO and NASCAR team owner Michael Kranefuss wanted to keep the RWD tradition alive. He and his team prepped a prototype for the 1998 season based on this car’s successor, the Mark VIII, and pitched it to Ford. They shot them down because they thought that racing would hurt Lincoln’s image, but I would’ve loved to see that!
Not like they have a history of Hod Rod Lincolns.
Ford is a company built on bad decisions
And yet Buick ran in NASCAR… Lincoln missed the bus on that one.
NASCAR has been missing the bus since Dale died.
@@jordantomblin2302 I’d argue that’s a bit different. The BPOs were more analogous to Mercury, not Lincoln. Actually, they might’ve been receptive to the idea if it was a Mercury. There were Cougars in the Busch series as recently as 1984, and other Mercurys in the Cup series in 1976.
Lincoln HAS been in NASCAR, though. In fact, the winner of the first race ever (Jim Roper) was driving a Lincoln. From what I can gather, though, it was only in those early days and never in any sort of official, factory-backed capacity.
My dad gave me his 88 as my high school graduation gift. Black with red interior. 👌👌👌
Kewl!
Did any exist that did not have red interior? Personally I've never seen one with anything but!
I’ve loved these since I was a little kid. IMO the Mark Mark Mark Mark Mark Mark Mark is still a great looking car.
8:54 I worked at the Manheim Auto Auction. There are a lot of people who work there that match that description.
I live like a mile away from there
I work at the BSC Auto Auction in Maryland and that hit me really hard 😢
I enjoyed working the auto auctions as a temp. I did apply to one in SE Michigan in 2005, and they did offer me a full-time job, but it was for, like, $7.30/hr and I had just gotten a better offer, so I told them "Thanks, but no thanks."
I worked there for a summer driving cars on the lot at the Fontana CA location. because of that I’ve got to drive basically every luxury car around because nobody on my crew knew how to drive a stick
Mr Regular is wrong, these are cool as fuck.
Agreed.
They're cool now because they are nostalgic. In the late 90's they definitely were not cool, I remember. But to be fair that's pretty common for most higher end vehicles. The new ones and the classic ones are the sought after ones. The stuff that's in that 10-15 year old range is just old hat. Not new enough to turn heads, not old enough to be a classic.
@@100percentSNAFU I was too young when they were new but I've always thought they were cool, at least since the early aughts. Same goes for the early nineties Eldorado. Just great timeless designs.
I agree. I wanted one in my 20s.
I thought they were a cool fat 5.9 mustang back in the day. But the fox mustangs were so cheap I never bothered with one of these till a few years back.
"Niko! My cousin! I can't believe it! You're here!"
Yes I know the front end of Roman's cab is based on an 82-83 Chevy Malibu sedan, but the rest is a MK VII
@@SomeGuy_Somewhere I thought it was mainly a Cadillac Seville from the 80s.
@@twotailedavenger It's a mishmash of Mark VII and Pontiac Bonneville, actually.
@@twotailedavenger It's a Seville
"good to see you man. What, did you forget our language?"
My dad chose this over the supra in 87', bought another in 89' when the first one was totaled by a station wagon and has kept it mint to this day. Having driven both, he does not regret his decision, which must say something considering the praise people sing for the mk3 supra.
@@atomicrust574 Hey…302s will literally run forever if they’re maintained. There’s a reason they’re still one of the most common performance builds out there.
this channel has near 1 million subs and the boys are still doing voice over with a go pro mic, and I respect that
How much burgundy does a car need?
Lincoln: Yes
My old Roadmaster gave it a run for it's money though!
all of it!
@@witmoreluke I think the Roadie might win if it was burgundy-on-burgundy. Bonus points if it had the dark burgundy vinyl roof.
My dad had a burgundy on burgundy '86 Olds 88 brougham. It was dripping with burgundy, from the paint job to the seats, to the steering wheel, to the landau roof 😂
The 80s in a nutshell. I had an '89 Caravan. Everything in it was red, except the fake wood grain on the cassette tape storage cubby. It was like being in a blood cell.
A few years ago the maintenance guy at my apartment complex had one of these in green that was a survivor, a really sweet ride.
He used to keep it in the maintenance garage and only drove it in the summer.
Then one day I witnessed him get a DWI in it after driving the LSC across the lawn to get to a phone quickly when an apartment caught fire.
Talk about bad effin luck there!
Bobby Baccala's car!
Exactly my thoughts, I can see Sil taking things out of the trunk!
Wasn't that Ralphie Cifaretto's car?
Ralph had a mark viii@@engineer_alv
Bobby was one of the best characters in that show
@@engineer_alv ralphie had a newer sleeker looking lincoln coupe, the MK8 which succeeded this one i believe
I’ve always like that car…only ever see them in silver,dark blue and black…last spotted one in 2017. black, faded paint,rusted out and smoking at a traffic next to me… gave the guy a thumbs up- guy looked over at me like I was crazy 🤣
Not gonna lie. This was a very lusted after car by high school gearhead teenage boys in the 1980's. It was body on frame, rear wheel drive, and V8 power. The clock was ticking on all these cars from the big 3 by 1984 and by 1990 FoMoCo was the only game in town if you wanted a 2-door coupe that fit this criteria. I say this as a GM guy at heart.
I want it.
Damn me for turning into Uncle Pulltab, but for the love of God I want some notstalgia in my automotive world, and this car brings me back to being 21 and having hope, and stuff...
Don't ever change RCR.
I really miss the 2-door personal luxury coupes of the eighties. I owned an '86 T-Bird in high school and this Lincoln was kinda like its much bigger, much brawnier older brother.
I really couldn't care less whether the spare tire hump on the trunklid was functional or not. It just adds to this car's unique level of coolness.
In today's automotive lansdcape where practically everything on the road is some dull, cookie-cutter SUV, survivor cars dripping with as much style as this Lincoln should be celebrated.
The Ford Fox platform isn't body-on-frame, it's unibody - but you're not a Ford guy so no harm no foul. I'm surprised anyone paid attention to these things back in the day, I sure didn't. My gearhead buddies and I all wanted 60's and 70's muscle, not knowing that we were soon to be priced out of the market when the first Hemi 'Cuda hit $100,000 at auction.
@@hypocycloidiaspora Yeah, GM guy so I thought these were still body on frame.
We wanted old muscle too, I was daily driving a 1973 Z/28 RS/LT to high school in 86. Other guys had 57 Chevys, 63 Impala, 75 Grand Prix, Lots of early 70's F-bodies and late 60's early 70's full size from the big 3. This was 84-88. G-Body GM stuff and the FoMoCo stuff was the new cars that everyone wanted. The guys just 4 or 5 years older than us kind of ran through the 60 muscle stuff by 84 or so. The old Chevelles, Monte's, Chargers etc.
Hit the nail on the head . I had 3 of them one of them was convertible to 5 speed by me. Something about these mk7
As a 6' tall Jim, I am worried for what the future brings.
I think a lot of the "Jimness" can be avoided if you continue to go by James or choose a different nickname, like Jimmy.
@@andrewchapman1494 a badass Jimmy would replace his Suzuki Esteem with a Cadillac
Change your name a bit, perhaps Jimmy or Jimbo which is more endearing. When you’re Jimbo you still get love even when you suck. I can’t explain the science behind that but I’ve seen a pattern over the years. Jimbo makes it to where someone might dare to accuse of being the neighbourhood loser but the majority of the town will step in and defend you. If you’re just a Jim then they won’t have your back. When you’re Jimbo then suddenly you’re this lovable underdog instead of a creep where everyone is just waiting for them to die so they aren’t
Being gross driving around in creepy cars all day.
I wish I was 6-foot nothing...beats 5'9" and a fraction (which of course I round up to 5-10)😂
Damn it! You’re one off. I’ve been waiting on a MKVIII review FOREVER.
Lincoln MKVIII is the automotive equivalent of Star Trek Next Generation era USS Enterprise.
Dude, about 2 years ago, my old man bought one to flip, and I made every excuse I could to take that thing out for a spin. Imagine one of those with only 11000 mi on it in 2022! It was an absolute time capsule, especially with the surprisingly cohesive interior, and that quad cam modular was a real treat. Wish I could have justified buying it off him, but oh well. I'd probably be singing a different tune once the fancy suspension went.
I owned a red '95 Mark VIII LSC in college that I'd bought for $900 back in 2016. Fantastic car, and relatively reliable even with 200k+ on it (after swapping the air suspension for coil springs). I emailed RCR about reviewing it a few times, but never heard back. It's a shame, because I feel like that it's a very unappreciated competitor to the SC400 and maybe even the 840Ci.
@@mikezobl9602 I loved the MkVIII. Basically a luxed-out Cobra, unfortunately saddled with a slushbox.
@@zlinedavid As an enthusiast, I agree that a 5-speed would have been fantastic behind the InTech V8. But manual-loving enthusiasts weren't buying Lincolns with $40k stickers ($83k in 2024) back then, and manufacturers don't build cars for the used market. The Mark VIII was a tech showcase just as much as it was a car, and in 1993 Ford was desperate to show off their new iteration of the AOD, the 4R70W.
Ford did offer a personal luxury coupe with a 5-speed during that era, though; the Thunderbird Super Coupe. With a supercharged and intercooled 3.8L V6 producing 240 hp/330 lb-ft mated to a heavy duty Mazda M5OD 5-speed and IRS with an LSD, the Super Coupe and its Mercury sibling, the Cougar XR7, was capable of mid-to-low 15 second quarter mile passes.
I'm affraid of how much I like this car.
me too, and more concerning is the fact I'm just 34. But I've always been upfront about liking the Mark VIII a bit more than this
It's the car you drive to audition for the sopranos
@@engineer_alv You’re good. The MkVIII is an acceptable guilty pleasure car. I’m 40, and swapping a 6MT into a ‘98 MkVIII has been one of my “If I win the lottery” projects for 15 years.
@@zlinedavid I'm 54 and a GM guy, but the MkVIII was lust on rubber for me 30 years ago. A Coyote and 6MT IS a Lottery must do for one of these.
Dude ive loved this thing since i was like 14 and felt uncomfortable about it
You actually CAN control that 2-3 shift on an AOD. Next time you’re driving one, try this… start in 1. When you want 2nd, shift up to drive, then drop it back into 1 until you want third gear. The governor wont let the transmission go back into first so it’ll lock you into second gear until you shift up again. Then select overdrive when you want 4th.
If I wasn't an idiot financially I'd love to buy myself a personal luxury car like this.
Well I'm a home owner, I'm not 50 just yet, but damn I'm not getting any.
If I *WAS* an idiot financially, I'd import one.
Get an old Lexus, you'll bspend less dough.
You missed the final owner demographic, back when these were new:
40-something Mafia capos in Queens
I dread Mondays like anyone else, so RCR's newest video is something that never fails to start the week off on the right foot.
The secret to cars like this is to buy them when they are two years old. After two years you could pick one of these up for about 50 cents on the dollar because of the way they depreciate but they were still new enough that everything on them still worked. You got a really nice car for not a lot of money.
My grandfather lived by this rule. Two years old at the newest. Mainly because the one new vehicle he bought (81-ish GMC truck) was a lemon.
This car was made for a small segment of the population that said "I'm only ever going to drive a Lincoln." They all died out by the end of the 1990s.
I think its cool. The mark 8 from 93-98 was super cool. The n/a cobra jet 4 valve dual cam was an awesome engine
@@LeArmBoss Needed a 6MT, but the Mk8 was a badass ride. A luxed-out Cobra? Yes please.
There was a guy selling a 1986 mark 7 for pretty cheap, alas I never was able to get the money together but I do love these things
Your main critique of "Who wants a yesteryear personal Luxury car" makes no sense because the 1991 Mercedes 560 (SEL) coupe had been using the same W126 platform since 1981 and the E24 BMW 6 series was in production from 1976 to 1989. Lincoln was clearly trying to compete with Mercedes not Honda and Toyota as you eluded to (that's why ford made the mustang and Taurus, which correct me if I'm wrong, sold very well) not to mention Lexus made the SC400, a "personal Luxury coupe" with big comfy leather seats. So with Mercedes being the target (In case you didn't know, Lincoln is Fords Luxury brand) this car was an incredibly affordable option given the $75 000 base price of the Mercedes. It's an odd car but I think it has a certain charm, all these years later if you bought that Mercedes used and wanted to keep it in running condition you'd need to spend as much money as buying a new one where as this is a quirky, inexpensive used car that uses a bunch of Mustang parts, you could probably get one cheaper than a Fox body (whose styling isn't to everyone's taste) and keep it alive on Rock Auto parts. It's a cheap, beater Hodrod a younger car enthusiast can afford to mess around with and not have to sink their entire bank account into, in terms of the Air ride, it's not expensive to go to a spring shop and replace it. Also, coaxial drivers are in some of the best speakers ever made (Tannoy, kef ls50, Tad, Altec 604) and those JBL car systems from that Era are Fantastic. A $1300 car that you can drive home? How can you complain? No, I don't have one.
Agreed, this was still an era where the American companies were trying to complete with the likes of Mercedes and BMW. They still didn't take the Japanese makers seriously (which was a grave mistake in retrospect). It took a lot of American consumers a long time to take the Japanese makers seriously, outside of the West Coast, to be honest. There was still sentiment by many in the early 90's that Japanese cars were junky econoboxes. That view changed for me when my dad bought a 1993 Accord. The American auto makers really shifted towards competing with the Japanese later on in the late 90s into the 2000s.
@@100percentSNAFU My Father had a used 90' Q45 and it probably did everything this car did and was faster and more spacious with 4 doors and the drive train was amazingly solid, now that they're very old and will need replacement parts, I would say the Lincoln is still a better buy for someone who wants a cheap hotrod. My Grandparents also had a 91' and 01' Camry from the factory and they were great cars. The Japanese make great cars or CAN make great cars, there's no doubt about it. However, especially in the case of the Infinity, which got significantly worse over time and now makes cars that are arguably less reliable than the American manufactures, I think there's a lot to be said for someone trying to build there reputation and proving themselves to the world, even the Toyota models declined in quality from the ones I mentioned, although not nearly as much of some other manufactures. In the case of the European car manufactures, by the late 1970's and early 80's Europe had rebuilt it's self from absolute ruins after ww2, they had basically rebuilt their civilization from the brink of collapse and I think the European cars from that Era reflect that. Japan had even more to prove as they had never had respect globally for their manufactured goods where as America was entering the era of Walmart and rubbermaid. I think people love to believe that things that are Japanese or European are inherently better and the fact is, they really aren't, there is Honda, Toyota and Mazda and then there are many Japanese car brands that are actually much worse in terms of quality than American vehicles and don't even get me started on modern European cars, they have taken a nosedive in quality at least as far as the Americans if not worse. Even during this era, the panther body vehicles Ford made are some of the longest lasting and easiest to maintain cars built in the history of the automobile. The decline of the American auto manufacturer in the 90's came hand in hand with globalization and the walmart/rubbermaid/enron corporate mentality of letting accountants run companies with little or no thought to the future and absolute focus on making as much money as possible in the present. The Japanese kept a more old school philosophy, focusing on making quality things that last (at least during this era) and it paid off for them. At one time, Americans did the same thing and even so, I've had Old integra and Saturn Ion beaters and other than feeling a bit tighter in the corners, I can't really say the integra was a more reliable/cheaper to maintain econobox, it actually rotted out a lot worse than the Saturn. People love branding and marketing a lot more than doing research. As soon as you hear that a culture creates superior products the chances are within a generation they won't, the point being, the underdog always has the edge.
@@100percentSNAFUNot even a blip on the radar
I remember seeing these cars a LOT in the late 90s mostly rusted and looking tired.
Now I think they are kinda Kool looking and now I'm Old sooo.
You're not wrong in any of this. The one thing that's missing though is to look at it in context of the mid 80's when it was in its heyday. Nothing looked quite like it on the road and it had presence. Even into the 90's when American roads were populated by equal parts boxy K-Cars and melted-blob Japanese cars, these were pretty striking. They had a purposeful look to them and did still find people who loved them.
Sure, by 1991 the sheen was off and Ford had been trying for a couple of years to replace the Mustang with the Ford Probe. Ford deliberately downplayed the Mustang / Mk VII because they wanted rid of that platform and didn't really want to build a Lincoln on the Probe chassis as they already had early development going on the Mk VIII. It was already late in its run and I think they were only still selling it in 1991 in order to eke a bit more money out of the Fox platform.
I never owned a Mk VII but admit to always noticing them on the road in the late 1990's. I had test driven one once and knew it was a terrible car which is why I never owned one, but like a lot of cars of the time I saw it as a pretty timeless piece of styling. Of course, by then I was driving a Subaru SVX but that's a whole different story :)
0:53 old man getting out to go into the dialysis clinic 😂💀
I've been watching RCR for years and the commentary is still just as good or even better than the first videos I watched. The Lehigh Valley/Eastern PA references get me every time. Keep up the good work bro!!!
My first car was a 1984 Lincoln Mark VII, a “gift” from my father who purchased a low mile 1992 LSC.. The 84’, AOD trans was shot, the airbag suspension would over inflate or go into low rider mode depending on the vehicles mood at any given time.. the Earl Scheib paint just was ahead of its time; as flat black is now a popular wrap choice for those looking to stand out from the other model 3’s on the road.. The 5.0 wasn’t the HO, it was dual fuel injected in a bastardized carburetor but man; I had a 5-Oh under the hood!
It’s crazy what you will fondly look back on when you start with such a skewed view of automotive culture.
All that said, taking his 1992 to Home coming I felt like I was in a god damn rocket ship with all the modern conveniences a big wig would enjoy.
Damn bro - now I'm sorry to have hounded you all these years to do a review on one! This was my first car and it was fantastic - I'd give a nut to get one in as good a shape as mine was. I later had a GF with a (88?) Merc S Class, and the interior, power, mileage, of that thing couldn't hold a candle to the Mark VII. I want a re-review by the Roman, damn it!
Wait. Did you have that GF in 1988 or was the Merc made in 1988?
A car for people living in 1975.
Lol. Yup. It was crazy to see people still driving American boats in 1990. Most sensible people had moved on to sensible foreign sedans by that point.
And now people drive tall boats, a.k.a SUVs... Super Useless Vehicles.
The cushy personal luxury vehicles were not just for pimps. Not everyone wants to be a boy racer in their whatever from Japan or Europe
@@Koexistence13 The problem is that Germans did Luxury better and soon after so did the Japanese.
@@rattlehead999 better than this car would not be a stretch. But yes. Lexus etc were quality. While the Lincoln and caddys were still trying to offer the cushy boat ride with some midling handling ability to hold on to their aging demo the imports were hitting just the right balance.
@@Koexistence13 Yeah, I would like to ride one of those old american boaty cars, but there are next to none in Europe.
Otherwise the 60s muscle cars are pure gold.
Omg the interior of this car makes me want to drive it on my way to grandma’s house between thanksgiving and xmas after the first snow of the season. Just this red capsule whisking you through an ocean of white while manheim steamroller plays in the background
“You’re own chariot for driving into the land of make believe…” That’s the line of this car. That needs to be the tagline for its satirical ad.
I know there's no compelling business case but I do wish FoMoCo had said "you know what, we can make a two-door version of the Taurus SHO and stick the Thunderbird badge on it...should be easy enough."
@@JebHoge I’ve long considered myself an aficionado of oddball mid 80s-mid 90s cars…..and this is the first time I’ve ever seen this idea…and it is brilliant.
Cigarette car
Oh yeah, I can SMELL this thing.
A car like this might’ve been ASPIRATIONAL to many of the middle-aged people that populated the small town I grew up in the middle of nowhere, western Nevada. They were mostly driving around in this car’s predecessor and other American sedans and coupes from the ‘70s and early ‘80s (at that point, WAY past their sell-by date), and I’d see them hacking up a lung when they got out to go into the pizza place or liquor store, or yelling at some kid with a rat tail. 🤣
You're smoking swishers in this slab.
Yes, these all come with the factory required package for stale smoke and burned holes in the seats. Ashtray stuffed full of butts with lipstick on the ends was optional.
Wine flavored black n mild
Ford australia was still using the windsor for the falcon in 2002
Very good by then
They also kept developing the legendary Ford 300 six into the Barra.
The Aussies are the only other people on the planet (outside America) that understand musclecars.
R.I.P Ford of Australia.
Me watching this while looking out the window at my 1990 Mark VII and acknowledging how accurate it is.
I am 51 and six foot something and loved this car. I need the Bill Blass edition tho.
Somebody went down to the dealership and bought this and decided not to buy the Lexus SC400.
If they were the same price, then there's no excuse.
In the original owner's defense, the SC didn't come out until '92.
Lincoln looks way cooler. Miss me with the four eyed blob headlights.
Looks like you already got all 5,000 Mark Vii owners in here, good job!
Mustang with a tuxedo
And a belly😂
@@senorpepper3405 Size 44 tux.
Is this owner "Thane" the same one that had the Continental Turbo Diesel?
Just saw him get out of the car @ 15:07 & yes, yes it is.
"Big heavy boat"... "lurches around"... my man, it's a 33 year old car with 200K+ on it, and I'll bet if it doesn't have the factory shocks and struts they're at least a decade old. For some reason the shocks on the Fox never seem to outright fail but settle into a permanent 'baby buggy' mode that most people wouldn't even care to fix because they don't drive hard enough to really notice.
Oh, and it's only 3800 pounds. It's one passenger heavier than the SC400. It's (holy shit) 1,590 pounds LIGHTER than a 2024 BMW M5.
I can't wait till RCR gets. Lincoln Mark 8. I was fortunate enough to have one of those in high school in 2004.
I always looked at these as the grandpa version of my high school Mark 8
Apart from the too vertical, too narrow, too tall, too stubby grille and some of that dash nonsense, that is a wicked car. 😎👌🏻
Ya know 🤣
😎👍🏻
It's late 2024 and I still want a Personal Luxury Coupe.
These cars were cool as hell then and hella cool now. My neighbor had one new in 89 LSC and he was in his 30s. He had a gray one and it had a killer sound system for the time and he babied that thing til he traded it for a 98 Navigator and whoaaaaa was he the man to be in the neighborhood.
One of the best looking car when it was introduced..!
I had a gray on red 1989 LSC for about a year and a half that was in below average shape, but had the same color interior. It was such a hilarious experience, I loved that car with a passion even though I had lost my job right after buying it.
I’d have another one in a second. This is New Jersey, the car.
James Bond drove one in 1989 in "Licence to Kill".
As an Australian I think American cars of the malaise era generally look terrible, but I quite like this. Most 80s American cars looked stuck in the 70s, while this looks really sleek and contemporary. I see hints of W124 Mercedes and E24 6er in the styling. I’ve noticed Lincolns from the 80s are kind of interesting looking compared to the boxy blandness of 80s GM luxury cars.
Weirdly 1991 was the year Ford Australia reintroduced a V8 option for the Falcon and it was a fuel injected 5 litre Windsor and they crowed about what a big deal it was, when it was a 30 year old design
It's funny, because the one time I had a real plan to get one of these in the '90s, I passed because of that trip computer. Don't hand me something with gadgets that don't work. Otherwise I had a pretty good time with it.
Now, there's a really low mileage '87 available for 64K. That's the price, it has 15K on the odometer. Someone must be liking these still, besides me. The spare tire hump is something that dates back to the Mark II. They actually tried to delete it from the Mark VIII, but it turned out to be more aerodynamic with it in place, so the Mark VIII had an even more vestigial tire hump.
I liked that every time you mentioned Lexus, you showed a picture of a SC400. The SC series, and its JDM counterpart, the Soarer, were exactly the same basic type of car as the Lincoln Mark VII, but with a different set of styling traditions to follow, these mainly being the shape of the roofline and the rear of the door opening, which angles forward. The rear seat of both cars say that you can ride with us, there's perhaps enough room, but we'd prefer that you did not.
On this car being the car of losers, take a long hard look at the second or third owner of any luxury car. Mercedes, BMW, Lexus, they too shall end up on the wrong side of the tracks where I live. I once recently saw a older, well dressed couple drive a LS400 to a local country club and the experience took me completely by surprise.
... Though one were strong as seven,
He too with death shall dwell.
Nor wake with wings in heaven
Nor weep for pains in hell;
Though one were fair as roses
His beauty clouds and closes
And well though love reposes
In the end it is not well...
The Gardens of Proserpine
Algernon Charles Swinburne
Four wheel drive, for its practicality in some parts of this country, is today's padded vinyl roof. Light bars are the new opera lamps. We call it a sport utility vehicle because some people gag and practically throw up at the words "station wagon". The side profile of a crew cab pickup truck with a 5.5 foot bed is terribly close to that of a 1988 Chrysler New Yorker. Someday, those thing will also pass...
I have an 83 mk VI I bought at an equipment acuction for $300 a few years ago. A car from the 80's that feels like a car from the 70's and to tie it off a drivetrain from the 60's.
You guys should find a Mark 8. You like to see what you say about them
This has the exact same powertrain as I had in my '90 Mustang GT convertible, which weighed about 900 lb less. Looks like the same assembly quality (not a complement). Long live the Fox Body!
Still, by the late Nineties you had the Mark VIII, the Aurora, the LH Chryslers, etc. It was a great time for large-ish American cars.
I don’t care what anyone says….the Mark VIII is a badass ride. A luxed-out Cobra? Yes please. Only thing they didn’t offer was a manual.
I'm digging for a Mark VIII or a late Eldorado to show up in RCR, hopefully soon
The fact that this was being sold at the same time as my 1991 LS400 is borderline unbelievable. I thought the Lexus was quaintly ‘90s when I picked it up five years ago, but by comparison? Welcome to the future.
Problem with the Mark 7 is that it always competed with the Thunderbird, and lost.
Looking back at it now, the unseen problem was at a Lincoln/Mecury dealership. Why get a Mark when an Cougar was thousands cheaper (minus some features, of course). Ford finally separated the coupes after 97, starting with Cougar turned into the Probe in '99, but mismanagement caused the T-bird / LS/ Mustang based Mark replacement to be canceled by the early '00s...
@@ljmorris6496 For me (who was driving at the time) the top car of the Fox Body cars, was the Thunderbird Super Coupe. It was a sin that engine never made it into the stock Mustang, but with a "premium" Thunderbird, it did make both the Cougar and Mark 7 look superfluous.
It’s not just the headers on these motors though it’s also the heads that are super restrictive
All of your critiques are just convincing me that I should buy one.
This is a car that my uncle would've driven. And he did. He was permanently stuck in the 1970s and nobody could push him out of there, not even in the 00's. He was a type of person who gave me Sony Walkman in 2002. for my birthday. Or a 35mm analog SLR camera from 1965 which he picked up for $3.00 at a garage sale. The clothes he would be wearing were also from either a flea market or Goodwille and it would smell like moth pesticide, because someone had it hanging closet for 30 years before he decided to get rid of it. The car had a broken lock on the passenger side forever. He would be also the person, thinking that this is a regular car that everyone should be buying. A definition of a car. This is it, peak technology. R.I.P. He was a good guy anyway.
TECHNOLOGY CONNECTIONS MENTIONED 16:47
It's funny that this luxury car has the same steering wheel, engine, stereo as my old beater F150
I remember many of these in junkyards lost their engines cause it had a cheap engine for use in drag races.
The New Jersey plates just make it special. 27290 was the code to my parent's 1989 Mercury Sable station wagon. Some things you just never forget.
16:46 the attention to detail, talking about sealed beams with the van behind it, having sealed beams lol
YES! A friend of mine had one of these a dozen years ago, and he swore it was a panty dropper. After he put the Borla cat back exhaust on it, it sounded like it could be something too. But we live in a 25mph town, so yeah. There ya go.
These are super cool to High school kids now where I live. They all want big old square American cars.
Yep, and in a few years when they get a little money to spend, they’re gonna drive the prices of those cars through the roof.
If you’re in the market for a big square American car, now is the time to get your hands on one.
@@joshuabrown2521 for sure. Good thing I’ve already got a 79 Continental Town Car!
@@nintendork900 I’ve already got an old truck, so the land yacht is next, then I’ll be happy!
@@joshuabrown2521 nice!
My uncle TJ bought one used after his 86 Cougar got totaled. He threw in work tools in the truck and drove to work in it regularly for a few years. Then replaced it with a Sebring convertible. 😊
Ahh. Nothing like Mr Regulars voice in my ears to start off the work week
My aunt had one of these! Drove it up until about 1997-98 or so. In their rural Minnesota neighborhood it was indeed very fast and comfortable on the sweeping 2-lane roads, especially when every other vehicle was an old farm truck or tractor. Absolutely right about getting one nice and fresh with everything working too; I think she ditched it at the first sign of electrical gremlins.
Lincoln MK7 is so Florida that James Bond drove it in 80's Florida
Oh no way I just got on an RCR kick after the last few years and I've already watched like five videos and I see this this morning, this was my grandparents car 20 years ago they bought a brand new and only put $30,000 mi on it until they passed away and we sold it in like 2014 I used to love this thing and think it was so special because of how they treated it this is awesome!... And now after watching for 5 minutes just yesterday realized I'm now 36 and the only one of my friends that doesn't have a house and a marriage and kids.... And feel so incredibly attacked I might cry. We sold it for 2400 in 2015 with 38k miles
This is the wrong trim, respectfully. There was an ALL digital dash and infotainment system and it was straight up cybertron gangster.
I usually drive T/As but I got one of these for 500 bucks in good shape. I like the gadgets and how plush it is inside like driving around in your living room. The air suspension worked great in a straight line but turning body roll was insane and it has sway bars. Air suspension finally gave out and I threw a set of aftermarket variable rate mustang springs on it made a huge difference. I also like the cornering lamps. You forgot to mention the big selling point for the time " Aircraft style doors". I drove that thing for about a year then I went back to my trusty T/As.
Believe it or not, you are the voice of our generation
This was my first car at age 19 in 2007 - a Mark VII LSC I bought it for $2,500. The guy I bought it from had put some sick Cobra rims and a scoop on the hood to pretend it was fast. My friends and I absolutely loved it. The back seat was a fucking COUCH and it just trundled along the highway like a lazy American V8 - 75 MPH and probably 900 RPM. There will never be anything like these landyachts again. I love this car. Thanks for posting this video - even if you fail to understand the greatness of this floaty piece of shit and completely fail to understand how AWESOME it was. It was comfy as hell, had a huge hood and just plodded along in incomparable comfort. It's the dogshit Buick Grand National and it rules for that.
The same buyer for this car in 1991 is the same buyer I see in the Buick lot now just still living off brand recognition they have from the 80’s. Adjusted for inflation this is 70k in todays money 😂
I feel sorry for anyone who still thinks Buick is as good as they were back in the 3800 days. I don't know if I would have the heart to tell them.
@@Crow12619 Hoist a toast to the Buick 3800. The king of reliability.
@@seththomas9105an engine that was too good for us 🍻
My grandparents bought a 1987 MK7 LSC in 87’! My grandfathers name was Jim 😆! They both loved the car, making it one of their favorite cars they ever had. They got new cars about every two years but they always talked about how much they missed their “silver bullet”
I have a 1988 lincoln town car with 5.0L the main reason the car makes 150 hp is for the better fuel economy it has a very lazy cam in it but good for torque thats also why that intake is shaped like how it is. The real killer is actually the transmission good old AOD transmission reliable but steals so much hp and torque.
100% percent it robs power, not too difficult to put a manual transmission into a TC but you could also wake up your AOD with a shift kit ;)
@@elasticmusic2084 shift kit really won't do much because it's still robing alot of hp and torque
My dad always bought Lincolns that were a year old under the "executive car" program. He would keep them a few years and get another. For the time, they were nice. His final one was a MkVIII. It was actually a pretty good car, faster than a Mustang and it actually looked good.
Oh shit, I had one of these! Wow. It looked EXACTLY like this.
I had an 88 LSC in college in the early 2000s. It was the highest quality car ever made by Ford, with beautiful paint, interior and those cool factory headers. It was definitely anachronistic, but to my 70s loving soul, it was just great, a rejection of tuner culture and grunge music. I now have an 80 Seville, which is even more 70s, with an overstuffed interior, proper 3- speed automatic and the ultra-light steering that the Mark VII didn't have.
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red guts like GI tract
I have my Granny's '89 LSC, which she only drove to the store and the bank, smoking Benson & Hedges with the windows up and the A/C recycling the smoke and ashes.
maybe its a generational thing between me and rcr but i think these sort of cars are sick. if i was american id have one, or another big boaty car like it
in that maybe if i was there back in the day when these were new, they would not be of any interest to me.
in that maybe if i was there back in the day when these were new, they would not be of any interest to me.
Thanks for the review. I had an 88 LSC in the early 2000s in college. It was a very posh car and had quality that no Ford before or after ever equalled. It was anachronistic, but so am I. As a Ricardo Montalban-worshipping fan of big collars, shag carpeting, fake wood and long hoods, it caught the interest of my 70s-loving soul. The Mark VII was a proud rejection of tuner culture and grunge music. Today, my 80s car is a 1980 Seville, which is more my style, with an overstuffed 70s style interior and the ultra light steering that was missing on the Euro-wannabe LSC.
I love the interior. I think the car is Cool.