That 765 is my favourite car I've driven out of 12,000+ cars. Seriously impressive, especially considering it's RWD. Big thanks to Laurence for letting so many people experience these cars. Great video, this format is proven to do really well, good to see it in happening in Aus.
Probably right. The 765 hit 5th 198 call it 200.. The Senna 215. 7.5% lower gearing, seems that is what McLaren said about the 765 compared to the 720 which I would assume has the same gear sets as the Senna.. but I also the slightly newer programming in the launch controller and shift logic, a little more weight over the rear tires, and the big wing of the Senna play in too. Here is the truth, the 765LT is the best McLaren ever especially if you consider the F1 not being built by the modern day manufacturer. McLaren¹ can am... McLaren²F1... McLaren³ this century...
I don’t think this senna was running good or there was some letting off happening, at 8:15 u can hear the car stop accelerating as hard and even see it on the dash almost like the turbo stopped spoiling for a second. The car is much slower going from 180-205 than it is after and before that
Awesome video! Let me explain why this is the result: McLaren tells you that the 765LT is less powerful than the Senna. But that is a lie. The Senna and P1 are not as understated as the 720S and 765LT. All four of these cars have gone on the dyno, on different occasions. Ford told DragTimes that an 11% loss is generally the ballpark for drivetrain losses with these mid-engine RWD cars. With that in mind, I’ll post the wheel horsepower (whp) and divide it by 89% to account for the 11% lost through the drivetrain, which will then bring us to the crank horsepower. Crank horsepower is what manufacturers claim. But here it is: 720S = 700whp / 0.89 = 786bhp Senna = 725whp / 0.89 = 814bhp 765LT = 770whp / 0.89 = 865bhp P1 = 817whp / 0.89 = 917bhp This shows that the Senna and 720S are more evenly matched in terms of power, whilst the 765LT is making 918 Spyder levels of horsepower, whilst being so much lighter. The 720S and Senna make close to the 800bhp barrier, whilst the 765LT is closer to the 900bhp club, hence why the 765LT hangs even with the P1 in a straight line rolling race. I also believe the 765LT could weigh similar to the Senna, if not a little lighter. And having less downforce and more power makes a straight line race between the Senna and 765LT pretty conclusive. The race to make would be the 720S vs Senna. I don’t know why till this day there isn’t a fair race between the two online.
@@Shadowboost Senna is probably not as much lighter as you think it is, hence why I said the 765LT could weigh similar if not a little lighter. You’ve got to remember that the claimed weight of the Senna is only 85kg more than the 720S. McLaren claims the curb weight of the Senna to be 1,309kg. Interestingly, Autocar said in their review of the Senna that “their test car weighed 1,345kg fully fuelled, where a 720S weighed a like for like 1,420kg”. The 765LT is said to be 80kg lighter, which would put it at 1,340kg. McLaren claims 1,339kg. I’ve tried to look for an Autocar figure, as a fair comparison to the other two cars but can’t find anything so far. But what my point is, even without the drag or longer gearing, there is no significant weight difference that allows the Senna to have an answer for the fact that in actuality, it is simply underpowered in comparison to the 765LT.
McLaren lied. The 765LT runs 9 seconds in the 1/4 mile, is RWD, and weighs more than 1,300kg. Those stats are enough to tell you the car is making a lot more power than advertised. McLaren claims the Senna is more powerful than the 765LT, but in reality it’s the other way around.
@@jozhfy On a track yes. But increasing the distance in a straight line only makes the gap bigger. You do realise the Senna makes a lot more downforce? It’s slower than the 720S past 174mph (280km/h).
Not all, only the ultimate series cars and the more track focused limited edition cars are carbon bodied, the remaining are the standard mixture of aluminium and plastic parts. But the two cars in the video are carbon bodied
The Senna isn’t the successor to the P1, it’s a purpose built track tool; drag racing isn’t its forte, its aero is configured for ultimate downforce and cornering grip. Round a course the 765 would struggle to keep up.
On a circuit ir would probably be a different story, that extra downforce that the Senna has would pay dividends in high speed corners, drag races aren't really representative of a cars overall performance.
Can you put Mazda CX90, Toyota Kruger, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Kruger,Subaru Forester, Honda pilot, Hyundai Santa Fe, Kia Sorento and Ford Everest for off road test. Put all vehicles on off road tyre so it will be fair for test. I wondering which vehicle will do better. It's will be fun to watch Kind regards Fan car expert
It’s a tribute to the legend ayrton senna, so they set out to create the wildest road legal track car ever at the time, compromising on aesthetics and usability to chase insane numbers around various tracks
@@pinchers1 The GT3 will not set the lap times that the Senna does. GT3 is an amazing car but it isn’t even close. The Senna is a lot quicker on track than any road car Porsche has produced so far.
@@pinchers1 If you’re looking for practicality then in the same breath, you could say a Golf R is way more practical than a GT3 for less. They have different purposes and no one buys a Senna hoping it’s practical.
I didn't think the 765 was that much faster than the Senna at least through the quarter mile. I'm thinking it would be neck n neck until like the half mile then the aero would come into play. Surprised by the outcome though, wonder how the race would go on a prepped surface
@@jozefjozefczyk3936 DragTimes is a prepped drag strip. The 765LT did 9.3 seconds on DragTimes. DragTimes put his stock 765LT on the dyno. It made 770 horsepower to the wheels. That means it’s making at least 865bhp at the crank. For reference, the 918 Spyder makes 874bhp at the crank whilst weighing a lot more.
Love the video, but something is wrong with the Senna or the driver. Both 0-100kph (62mph) 2.8s Top speed 5kph/3mph difference with the Senna faster. Senna 0-200kph (124mph) 6.8s and the 765LT 0-200kph (124mph) 7.0s
@@CarExpertAus still. Right. Crazy times. I just can't believe that's even in the same category lol. My kid eats Cheetos with his toes pulling 0-60 rips in 3 secs 😅 Let's see him do that around pikes peak with a GT2. Momma's gunna kill me.
Read all the other comments. They have both been on the dyno. McLaren advertises the Senna as the more powerful car, but the dyno shows that the 765LT is the more powerful car. McLaren understated the 720S and 765LT power, and the Senna is closer to the 720S than it is to the 765LT in terms of power.
The LT shouldn't be beating the Senna like that. The Senna is more powerful and lighter and the downforce wouldnt affect that acceleration much at those lower speeds. It must be down on power.
@@Autoravetv The LT shouldn’t beat the Senna like that, if you believe McLaren. They’ve been taken to dyno’s to see what they actually make, and the Senna makes less. In fact, it’s closer to the 720S in power than it is to the 765LT.
Those are normal results. The senna has tons of aero (therefore,more drag) , it is built for the track, not dragraces. The 765 is a more sleek design, with way less drag and about the same power. Also its 6 years newer technology... Put them both on a track, and im pretty confident the senna will still beat the LT
McLaren Senna does 100-200 km/h in 4.3 seconds 765LT 4.0 4.1 4.2 to 4.4 seconds There's a guy who did 100-200 km/h in 4.08 seconds And 200-300 km/h in 10.5 seconds verified by DRAGY So that's much faster than Senna or Lamborghini Revuelto There's a guy who's getting angry when I said McLaren 720s got faster acceleration than Revuelto Well AutoTopNL tested 720s on Autobahn It did 100-200 kph in 4.3 seconds 200-250 km/h in 3.8 seconds 200-300 km/h 10.3 seconds And top speed over 350 km/h
Senna . Running at 250km/h, produces a whopping 800kg of downforce. That has a huge effect on acceleration after 100kph. LT figures not quoted but will be far less.
When the C8 ZR1 Corvette enters this race America will finally have bragging rites with a car that can compete for half the price ZR1 specs 0-60 2.3 1/4 mi. - 9.6
Nous avons testé la McLaren 765lt et elle plus rapide que la P1, la senna, la sabre et la elva. Seule la McLaren speedtail est plus rapide et la nouvelle w1 sont plus rapide.
I’m trying to convince my wife we need a 765LT in order to get to church on time
You may be heading to heaven at that speed
If you guys believe in god, she might be dumb enough to fall for that
Amen my brother amen 🙏
If you need to convince your wife to buy a supercar, you’ve already lost the plot
@haykkarsyan1 is all a joke bro calm down 🤣
The Best Drag Race ever the Senna and the 765LT are in my Top 5 FAV 💙🔥
It's senna is not the succesor the the p1
Exactly it's made to admire Ayrton Senna after his death
Lmao yeah😂
Influencers just be saying what they want fr, bro
duh
McLaren owner here…thanks for beating me to the punch on this one. Even the W1 is NOT a successor to the P1 in my opinion.
That 765 is my favourite car I've driven out of 12,000+ cars. Seriously impressive, especially considering it's RWD.
Big thanks to Laurence for letting so many people experience these cars.
Great video, this format is proven to do really well, good to see it in happening in Aus.
12000 cars? If you drove a different car every single day, it would take you 33 years to drive 12,000 cars. How is that possible?
@@Mark-ut5oqhe talks about video games
@@Mark-ut5oq Car photographer working for dealerships, etc. Lots of days with 20+ cars
@@Mark-ut5oqwhat if he drove like 3 cars everyday, doesnt sound so hard considering he would drive 3 per day 🧐
@@KAMIKAHZ3Z 3 cars per day everyday? That would still take 12.3333 years. Very hard to believe.
Senna is a road course purpose-built car that has tons of aero pieces that slow the car down when it comes to Street Lines
Yeap but the 765 LT go ahead from the start so the wing They are not valid.🤷🏻♂️
senna is faster , this 765 is not stock or senna driver is bit scared..
@@Alessandro-Cristin 765 LT have shorter gearing ratio for the gear 1 to 4.
@@Tetrathegod
It’s really not.
The advantage of the 765LT’s gearing is evident in these races.
Probably right. The 765 hit 5th 198 call it 200..
The Senna 215.
7.5% lower gearing, seems that is what McLaren said about the 765 compared to the 720 which I would assume has the same gear sets as the Senna.. but I also the slightly newer programming in the launch controller and shift logic, a little more weight over the rear tires, and the big wing of the Senna play in too. Here is the truth, the 765LT is the best McLaren ever especially if you consider the F1 not being built by the modern day manufacturer. McLaren¹ can am... McLaren²F1...
McLaren³ this century...
The W1 is the successor to the P1 not the Senna
Anyone that knew anything about the 765LT knew it will win
I actually respect you calling out your sponsors upfront r✊
I don’t think this senna was running good or there was some letting off happening, at 8:15 u can hear the car stop accelerating as hard and even see it on the dash almost like the turbo stopped spoiling for a second. The car is much slower going from 180-205 than it is after and before that
That solo run shows that the 765LT is definitely faster
Awesome video! Let me explain why this is the result:
McLaren tells you that the 765LT is less powerful than the Senna. But that is a lie. The Senna and P1 are not as understated as the 720S and 765LT.
All four of these cars have gone on the dyno, on different occasions. Ford told DragTimes that an 11% loss is generally the ballpark for drivetrain losses with these mid-engine RWD cars.
With that in mind, I’ll post the wheel horsepower (whp) and divide it by 89% to account for the 11% lost through the drivetrain, which will then bring us to the crank horsepower. Crank horsepower is what manufacturers claim. But here it is:
720S = 700whp / 0.89 = 786bhp
Senna = 725whp / 0.89 = 814bhp
765LT = 770whp / 0.89 = 865bhp
P1 = 817whp / 0.89 = 917bhp
This shows that the Senna and 720S are more evenly matched in terms of power, whilst the 765LT is making 918 Spyder levels of horsepower, whilst being so much lighter. The 720S and Senna make close to the 800bhp barrier, whilst the 765LT is closer to the 900bhp club, hence why the 765LT hangs even with the P1 in a straight line rolling race.
I also believe the 765LT could weigh similar to the Senna, if not a little lighter. And having less downforce and more power makes a straight line race between the Senna and 765LT pretty conclusive. The race to make would be the 720S vs Senna. I don’t know why till this day there isn’t a fair race between the two online.
The 765LT has shorter gearing than the Senna and less drag. That makes the race a done deal
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Yup but it still would’ve won even if they had the same gearing, because of the actual power figures.
@projectr2451 because of the aero drag. Senna is lighter than the 765LT
@@Shadowboost
Senna is probably not as much lighter as you think it is, hence why I said the 765LT could weigh similar if not a little lighter. You’ve got to remember that the claimed weight of the Senna is only 85kg more than the 720S.
McLaren claims the curb weight of the Senna to be 1,309kg. Interestingly, Autocar said in their review of the Senna that “their test car weighed 1,345kg fully fuelled, where a 720S weighed a like for like 1,420kg”.
The 765LT is said to be 80kg lighter, which would put it at 1,340kg. McLaren claims 1,339kg. I’ve tried to look for an Autocar figure, as a fair comparison to the other two cars but can’t find anything so far. But what my point is, even without the drag or longer gearing, there is no significant weight difference that allows the Senna to have an answer for the fact that in actuality, it is simply underpowered in comparison to the 765LT.
@projectr2451 the 765LT is not 80 kg lighter than the 720S. They've been weighed extensively all over the forums
Insane upload again!
Amazing, I'm stunned that the 765LT is quicker than McLaren's current (not for long) hypercar. Unreal!
The 765lt has shorter gearing and less aero. It was obvious
McLaren lied. The 765LT runs 9 seconds in the 1/4 mile, is RWD, and weighs more than 1,300kg. Those stats are enough to tell you the car is making a lot more power than advertised.
McLaren claims the Senna is more powerful than the 765LT, but in reality it’s the other way around.
run the on a half mile or a track, bet the sienna gonna put busses
@@jozhfy
On a track yes. But increasing the distance in a straight line only makes the gap bigger. You do realise the Senna makes a lot more downforce? It’s slower than the 720S past 174mph (280km/h).
@@projectr2451 the 765lt does 10.0 ¼ mile not 9 seconds bru
Good to see Alborz back behind the wheel!!❤
Is a not surprise: Senna ~830 hp (724 dyno), 765lt ~ 880 hp (760 dyno)
Yup!! Beat me to it, thank you for pointing it out. Glad to see people are informed.
I think that both are differently tuned , Senna is more track focused and 765 is more street oriented.
@@Tannishq07hp is still a factor
I know I said this last time but Paul's reactions are absolutely priceless!!! 🤣
You guys need more gravel on the track😂
Great video, and it's amazing how much slower cars go in the Ozy heat. These are easily 9 second cars.
Paul, you've done it, have a nice Christmas
Perth represent 🤜🤛🇦🇺
The road surface made me wince the whole way through 😮
Senna guy: race starts . Aaaah .race Ends
did you use DRS and BOOST button on steeringwheel?
"Engineering degree from a Kelloggs box" 😂😂😂
I thought Alborz was your boss mate¿
Great humour, don't ever stop
😂 other way around
@@CarExpertAus At least Alborz has a Kellogs degree, Paul is still looking in the chewing gum packets for his 🤣🤣😂😂👍👍
I am. But Paul doesn’t listen. Plus he bought his degree from Kazakhstan
Wow! 👍🏻🏁
what is the point of the senna?
When you are rich and your friends are rich, the only way to flex on them is to buy something that is more expensive regardless of its capabilities😂
Track car faster than everything
@@cardinalprosoftwashPut senna on track
Just saw a 765LT a couple weeks ago driving in the rain. I was driving behind it so I had to keep my distance😂
Arent all McLarens carbon bodied?
Yes, these two are anyway.
Not all, only the ultimate series cars and the more track focused limited edition cars are carbon bodied, the remaining are the standard mixture of aluminium and plastic parts. But the two cars in the video are carbon bodied
funny that alborz had the window open. Still love both
Australia version of Carwow but they only need one friend to lend them their cars lol. I'll shit aside I'm loving all the content
the paint on that 765😭❤️
The Senna isn’t the successor to the P1, it’s a purpose built track tool; drag racing isn’t its forte, its aero is configured for ultimate downforce and cornering grip.
Round a course the 765 would struggle to keep up.
765LT vs C8 Zr1!
The 765 on dynos has seen Bhp in the region of over 800....
Need to do a clip with the Y62 and the infinity QX80
Need to some hot laps around the track as a comparison.
The senna creates alot more drag along with the downforce so it makes sense to be slow on the straights.
On a circuit ir would probably be a different story, that extra downforce that the Senna has would pay dividends in high speed corners, drag races aren't really representative of a cars overall performance.
6:54 is crazy!!
The BYD Yangwang U9 with 1300 hp and all the advance tech will smoke these 2 supercars in any drag race , rolling start etc.
I could see the g-forces doing their thing. They would certainly put you in your place.
Also, I forgot to say, it sounds freaking awesome, why don't you get your hands on one of these Paul.
They're amazing when they work 😅
Next drag 765 vs p1
😁
P1 was there but we didn't see it race. Come onnnnnn
Can you put Mazda CX90, Toyota Kruger, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Kruger,Subaru Forester, Honda pilot, Hyundai Santa Fe, Kia Sorento and Ford Everest for off road test. Put all vehicles on off road tyre so it will be fair for test.
I wondering which vehicle will do better.
It's will be fun to watch
Kind regards
Fan car expert
kind of funny the fall apart right in front of you
W1 is the successor of the P1 mate, not sure what you meant there…
However 765 LT is just a better supercar for me.
Is this channel not called car experts? You know the 765 has shorter gear ratios, has nothing to do with the power
😂 thanks Sherlock.
It has everything to do with the power lmao. McLaren lied by understating the power of the 765LT.
It has to do with everything. Nothing is black and white.
Running at 250km/h, the Senna produces a 800kg of downforce. That will have a huge effect on acceleration above 100kph.
what was the reason for the senna again?
To break track records. And it went around doing just that
It’s a tribute to the legend ayrton senna, so they set out to create the wildest road legal track car ever at the time, compromising on aesthetics and usability to chase insane numbers around various tracks
@@projectr2451 dont the gt3 do that for less and better quality? because this car is not cheap and not practical
@@pinchers1
The GT3 will not set the lap times that the Senna does. GT3 is an amazing car but it isn’t even close. The Senna is a lot quicker on track than any road car Porsche has produced so far.
@@pinchers1
If you’re looking for practicality then in the same breath, you could say a Golf R is way more practical than a GT3 for less.
They have different purposes and no one buys a Senna hoping it’s practical.
Either way, both of those speeds the cars run is 9 second 1/4 mile speeds. 219 for the Senna = 136mph. And 233 for the LT = 144mph.
This senna can trap 145mph on 1/4mile😂
Senna trapped 147 before; 765lt 151 mph
@@Fullautoracing fake
@@jozefjozefczyk3936 ah yes, the video on dragtimes with draggy data is fake. Makes plenty of sense
no track test?
I didn't think the 765 was that much faster than the Senna at least through the quarter mile. I'm thinking it would be neck n neck until like the half mile then the aero would come into play. Surprised by the outcome though, wonder how the race would go on a prepped surface
On dragtimes senna do 9.9@145mph
@@jozefjozefczyk3936
DragTimes is a prepped drag strip. The 765LT did 9.3 seconds on DragTimes.
DragTimes put his stock 765LT on the dyno. It made 770 horsepower to the wheels. That means it’s making at least 865bhp at the crank. For reference, the 918 Spyder makes 874bhp at the crank whilst weighing a lot more.
WTF!!! WHY IS THERE SO MANY FLIES ON THAT GUY!! 6:54
It’s Australia.
Do Carwow and Carexpert share ownership?
Color of the 765 ?
Whats sketchy exactly?
Put those cars on a track will be a different story. Road course .
Now take them to the track
Love the video, but something is wrong with the Senna or the driver.
Both 0-100kph (62mph) 2.8s Top speed 5kph/3mph difference with the Senna faster.
Senna 0-200kph (124mph) 6.8s and the 765LT 0-200kph (124mph) 7.0s
The times are crazy. They can almost keep up with a model 3 performance....
I mean I'd say rather a McLaren but they really need to pick it up
😂 RWD vs AWD
@@CarExpertAus still. Right. Crazy times. I just can't believe that's even in the same category lol. My kid eats Cheetos with his toes pulling 0-60 rips in 3 secs 😅
Let's see him do that around pikes peak with a GT2. Momma's gunna kill me.
A track race is far more appropriate for these cars.
I guess the wing really held the senna back
Why would the Senna be slower off the line? Its lighter and makes more power. I can understand high speed with the downforce from the spoiler, odd.
Read all the other comments. They have both been on the dyno. McLaren advertises the Senna as the more powerful car, but the dyno shows that the 765LT is the more powerful car.
McLaren understated the 720S and 765LT power, and the Senna is closer to the 720S than it is to the 765LT in terms of power.
El paso diferencial es más corto en el 765 que en el SENNA. eS POR ESO QUE ACELERA MÁS RÁPIDO
The Mclaren senna is NOT the successor to the P1 but rather the W1 is the succcesor to the P1
The LT shouldn't be beating the Senna like that. The Senna is more powerful and lighter and the downforce wouldnt affect that acceleration much at those lower speeds. It must be down on power.
@@Autoravetv
The LT shouldn’t beat the Senna like that, if you believe McLaren.
They’ve been taken to dyno’s to see what they actually make, and the Senna makes less. In fact, it’s closer to the 720S in power than it is to the 765LT.
There isnt a successor to the p1 out yet. the w1 is the successor to the p1. I'd try and do a senna vs sabre for a better comparison.
Can we please bring Racewars back to Wyalkactchem
Those are normal results.
The senna has tons of aero (therefore,more drag) , it is built for the track, not dragraces.
The 765 is a more sleek design, with way less drag and about the same power. Also its 6 years newer technology... Put them both on a track, and im pretty confident the senna will still beat the LT
@@HouseOfPetrol
LT has more power. And yes, on a track the Senna smokes the LT.
100-200 km/h times: Senna = 5.5 seconds. 765LT = 4.4 seconds! Not even close...
McLaren Senna does 100-200 km/h in 4.3 seconds
765LT 4.0 4.1 4.2 to 4.4 seconds
There's a guy who did 100-200 km/h in 4.08 seconds
And 200-300 km/h in 10.5 seconds verified by DRAGY
So that's much faster than Senna or Lamborghini Revuelto
There's a guy who's getting angry when I said McLaren 720s got faster acceleration than Revuelto
Well AutoTopNL tested 720s on Autobahn
It did 100-200 kph in 4.3 seconds
200-250 km/h in 3.8 seconds
200-300 km/h 10.3 seconds
And top speed over 350 km/h
Senna can much faster haha
Senna . Running at 250km/h, produces a whopping 800kg of downforce. That has a huge effect on acceleration after 100kph. LT figures not quoted but will be far less.
Another ultra expensive drag race from a truck reviewing YT channel... This channel has had a glow up recently
Senna is not for drag race this is for track
The sounds of rock chips hurt my soul.
Full PPF 💪🏻
The successor to the F1 is the GMA T50.
I hope the man in the Senna has not forget to push the DRS button 🤔
Would make no real difference
Paul taking on Matt Watsons territory 😅
This is honestly starting feel like Australian carwow it’s great but also I would love if you could like add the 1/4 mile times on the cars 👍
You didn't make it to the end of the video?
They gave more data than carwow
Now put them on a road course and see who wins...I got my money on that Senna. These are two completely different cars.
Still hate the fact that they're using Open Diff🤦🤦
Do p1 vs 765
Coming soon
Pit these cars against the Chinese made super EV. That'd be an interesting race to watch
It’s cars like these that make other sports cars (fast cars in general) look like clocked backed 20 year old Prius’
Why is it people who know nothing about these cars are they people who get to drive them!
When the C8 ZR1 Corvette enters this race America will finally have bragging rites with a car that can compete for half the price
ZR1 specs
0-60 2.3
1/4 mi. - 9.6
Americans can’t make a good car tho….
@@ryan2387 Havant seen a European car that can get past 200k miles yet
@@creolecajun9988are you mental vws and Mercedes will do 500k plus mate
Odd starting in first gear in the role race anyhow.
Wait, where is the IONIQ 5 N ???
765LT stands for missile if you decode the numbers. 😅
This means these cars needs to be used and not locked up in a cage.. thats why techno meters are starting to malfunction 😢
765 has shorter gearing, so acceleration is so much better.
Get all of them including the f1 and watch it beat the lot of them f1 is still and always will be the SPECIAL ONE
Of course the 765 will win, the senna produces so much more drag!
Senna needs race mode to unleash all power I think
Successor to the P1...Paul c'mon now..
765 is way Better 👏
wow
Down to gearbox and launch control technology advances
And if any of you guys did rolling races in the streets its never quater mile . Its 1km or 2km races. So think that what u call half mile
Nous avons testé la McLaren 765lt et elle plus rapide que la P1, la senna, la sabre et la elva.
Seule la McLaren speedtail est plus rapide et la nouvelle w1 sont plus rapide.