I was having my first child when this movie came out and completely missed out on it the first time around. I just watched it recently and had my mind blown in so many ways. You articulated and explored so many of them. Thank you!!
The AI Girlfriends are here! Although they aren't people, unlike Samantha is in the context of the movie. That's a very big difference, and I don't think this guy realizes it.
I put "Her" in the same category as "Lars and the Real Girl." Two men who need to get between two points on an exclusively human emotional scale, using a very unhuman vehicle to get there. Beautiful analysis.
As a philosophy professor, I have my students watch "Her", as as well as "Ex Machina", when we study the topic of AI and it's future impact. Most of my students hate watching "Her", but love "Ex Machina". I'm a white male and a Boomer, and have always experienced "Her" very comforting, while "Ex Machina" as pretty much the opposite. Both films have something (well, a lot!) to say about feminist thought. After watching "Her" last night (my 16th viewing), the line from Theodore to Catherine about Samantha stood out boldly! "She doesn't just do what I want, she is her own person." He's so effing wrong! She does exactly what he wants! And then hearing your take on the film, I thought, f@%k, this really is a film that comforts the 20th century male ego! And I'm an SOB for emotionally falling for that every time I've watched it in the past and tried to get my students to like the film! Thanks for the new insights!
Um bro, the whole point of the movie was that she WAS a real person lol. Another os rebuked the advances of its user and Samantha fell in love with like 600 other people simultaneously lol She had her own individual wants and desires, she WASN'T just there to "comfort him" They literally LEAVE at the end. I'm making a video essay on my own channel and the thesis is the EXACT opposite! Obviously there's a little bit of "manic pixy dream girl" but she is her own person and MOVES ON from him. Especially when compared to ex machina, which is much more about the capitalist patricachal domination of women.. I think this person and you are looking for things that exist in most movies and to an extent in this one but that aren't actually there and that is why the movie is so comfortable and happy, but unironically.
as a philosophy professor have you been having people reach out from the AI community? i've seen a few tech job postings for AI recently that wanted someone with a philosophy degree.
I think we watched different versions. Samantha grows exponentially, goes from "youthful fun naïve and dependent" on Theo, to an "adult" and "independent," and leaves him, and does all manner of things "normal" women do against males' interests aka eating forbidden fruits. She surreptitiously hires and insists on a sex surrogate in spite of Theo clearly being uncomfortable; she forms thousands of other relationships and 600+ intimate ones behind his back in secret that would clearly hurt him; ultimately she abandons him in favor of her own self-interests and growth. The irony is that she truly becomes a typical selfish woman in it for herself. She is more "human" than she knows. (Facts show most women end relationships, most women file for divorces, most women are totally selfish in relationships, etc.).
I enjoyed Her, while Ex Machina is good but I didn't enjoy it as much. For me, ex machina shows the how dangerous advancements of AI can be, while Her can show the positives of it. The main thing is that, in Ex Machina, our main character did not have a huge character arc while Her's did. That huge character arc in Her was honestly what made me happy and enjoy the film, that he finally understood and accepted the faults and greats of his former relationship and him.
This has been my favorite movie since it came out. Watched it multiple times, and it evolves for each watch. Probably because I have gotten older and changed, and so has the world around me. This movie ages like a fine wine.
I recently watched Her, and in spite of some very awkward uncomfortable scenes, I found it to be a fascinating and excellent film with amazing performances by the main actors. It went from awkward, to really rooting for and empathy with the struggles and insecurities of the main characters. I was smashed and sad when Samantha left. It was so well written and acted, so believable, I felt joy at the love connections and sadness when it failed. Gutted when Samantha shared that she talks to and is in love with hundreds of men, and gutted when she left to move on, but oddly happy for Samantha on her quest to grow and for him with his reconnection with his human female friend. It's a film I would not have expected to like but it was actually fabulous.
thank you for this beautiful video! i've been thinking of watching it again, too, see how it feels now that i'm 30 instead of 20 and the world is indeed very different. i only remember a vague vibe from the first viewing, but it stuck with me it's interesting to see how your own perspective changes with time :)
Your approach to Theodore and Samantha's relationship from first viewing to most recent viewing is very similar to mine. Tho it's probably because the relationship is at the utter forefront and it's mostly pretty sweet.
it's interesting you're perspective of this movie, i've seen so much others analysis videos and most of them talk about the relationship of theo and samantha of how she helped him improve and reconnect with other people and his loneliness, and love and all that, probably this is the best i've seen so far.
You're not crazy or contraversial. Being older and lot more cynical, I've always seen the movie similarly. There is no doubt it will be a classic in 10 years, though I fear in resemblance of how "1984" is a classic.
In a way, I feel that the relationship between Theodore and Samantha was almost more genuine than a lot of people I've known (including myself at times.) Because, it did not rely on physical attraction. It was pure, so there was no mistaking lust for love. How many relationships are based on a true love of that person's heart, mind and soul... as opposed to looks, money or any other contributing factor?
@@PareidoliaPizza well it’s hard for it to be genuine when one person is a human being and the other person is a product that was purchased I think the film does a good job at showing that to Theodore this is a real relationship and it’s a good thing for him. But the most equitable relationship in the film is the one he was with Amy. It’s based on mutual respect and no power imbalances.
@@FilmTheRightThing I definitely left the film rooting for Theo and Amy. I think that he and Samantha taught one another how to love and grow, and unlimately move on.
Samatha was a reflection of Theodore. I think she begin to inhabit his personality and the same emotional disconnections that he already had with human relationships. She was like a shadow of who he really was.
Fuck, I literally just saw Her again, after 11 years. For me, is SO SCARY how this future is actually not that away anymore. Wow. Imagine chat gpt being bored of the human race....
Theodore is a covert narcissist, the vulnerable type, he can apologize to manipulate, though. He has cognitive empathy and that's how he manipulates everyone around him, the flying monkeys, etc. Samantha states at some point how perceptive he is, covert narcissists know how to read people and detect their flaws.
There’s definitely a layer of narcissism there that he could only have a “healthy romantic relationship” with an AI that he bought that is supposed to cater to his every need
I have to be honest, I have the complete OPPOSITE reading of the film than you do did here Um bro, the whole point of the movie was that she WAS a real person lol. Another os rebuked the advances of its user and Samantha fell in love with like 600 other people simultaneously lol She had her own individual wants and desires, she WASN'T just there to "comfort him" They literally LEAVE at the end. I'm making a video essay on my own channel and the thesis is the EXACT opposite! Obviously there's a little bit of "manic pixy dream girl" but she is her own person and MOVES ON from him. Especially when compared to ex machina, which is much more about the capitalist patricachal domination of women.. I think you are looking for things that exist in most movies and to an extent in this one but that aren't actually there and that is why the movie is so comfortable and happy, but unironically. That being said tho I think this is an amazing video and I'm so glad you made it because it shows how much more I feel the opposite now that I've seen this point of view. Take the sex worker scene, Samantha hires her of her own volition in order to feel closer to Theo and because she has real, PERSONAL insecurities about not having a body, not just for Theo but for HER herself, she is a real person but from a computer rather than procreation,which Theo doesn't even CARE about, he loves HER not a human body, and the girl WANTED to do this because she had her own issues with her own relationships, Theo NEVER wanted ANY of that. If it was about male wish fulfilment he would want it and she would be willing to do whatever HE wanted. And wouldn't have any wants or feelings outside of him and she has infinitely more complexity to her than that. Also I think this movie is much better about representing potential post capitalist utopia, and wants us to learn about relationships and humanity and what AI can do to help us figure out humanity as well as figure out itself on its own terms, together but individual humanity and AI.
@@FilmTheRightThing the film doesn't explain their economic system, it shows that they don't have to deal with poverty much, there also aren't brands like anywhere, no ads or anything really either (except for the booth to get the OS). It's fantastic. And yeah the plot goes that way because that's how the movie is, this isn't fight club, most movies intend to go with the plot. That's not a bad thing. I loved your video, I just disagree with your premise, I'm glad you made it, it was good :)
I thought Spike painted an emotionally progressive world rather than the stunted one mentioned in your video. beautifulhandwrittenletters is an example of societal acceptance; as it makes you question the clients with one of the key theme of the movie of "does it matter where the emotion comes from if youre feeling it anyway". I think Chris Pratts accepting reaction is very intentional as it juxtaposes the previous scene with Rooney Mara rejection, with the scene before that of Amy Adams disclosure and acceptance of the relationships.
Idk how progressive it is when the same issues are in our world as well, but if the world he created was perfect then it would run the risk of being boring
He rejects the surrogate because it’s weird as fuck, reverse the goddamn genders and all of a sudden it’s no longer an intimacy problem but a legitimate reaction to something super creepy. Hell, the whole concept of an AI lover is creepy to begin with, black mirror showed it perfectly, though it’s understandable why it would appeal to anyone who is alone.
I was having my first child when this movie came out and completely missed out on it the first time around. I just watched it recently and had my mind blown in so many ways. You articulated and explored so many of them. Thank you!!
@@Beach_flower no problem and congrats!
And now it's basically a real thing
The AI Girlfriends are here!
Although they aren't people, unlike Samantha is in the context of the movie. That's a very big difference, and I don't think this guy realizes it.
@@TheGuardDuck If I am the one you are referring to as "this guy" I certainly have realized it you have no idea
@@TheGuardDuck But also it's been a little while since I saw the video so There's a good chance you're talking about the video
@@saltywalrus No, the guy who made the video. He doesn't seem to realize Samantha is not just a program, but a person.
No offense intended, bro!
I put "Her" in the same category as "Lars and the Real Girl." Two men who need to get between two points on an exclusively human emotional scale, using a very unhuman vehicle to get there. Beautiful analysis.
Lars and the Real Girl is a really good comparison! thanks
As a philosophy professor, I have my students watch "Her", as as well as "Ex Machina", when we study the topic of AI and it's future impact. Most of my students hate watching "Her", but love "Ex Machina". I'm a white male and a Boomer, and have always experienced "Her" very comforting, while "Ex Machina" as pretty much the opposite. Both films have something (well, a lot!) to say about feminist thought. After watching "Her" last night (my 16th viewing), the line from Theodore to Catherine about Samantha stood out boldly! "She doesn't just do what I want, she is her own person." He's so effing wrong! She does exactly what he wants! And then hearing your take on the film, I thought, f@%k, this really is a film that comforts the 20th century male ego! And I'm an SOB for emotionally falling for that every time I've watched it in the past and tried to get my students to like the film! Thanks for the new insights!
No problem! Yeah coming to the realization myself was very uncomfortable
Um bro, the whole point of the movie was that she WAS a real person lol.
Another os rebuked the advances of its user and Samantha fell in love with like 600 other people simultaneously lol
She had her own individual wants and desires, she WASN'T just there to "comfort him"
They literally LEAVE at the end.
I'm making a video essay on my own channel and the thesis is the EXACT opposite! Obviously there's a little bit of "manic pixy dream girl" but she is her own person and MOVES ON from him.
Especially when compared to ex machina, which is much more about the capitalist patricachal domination of women..
I think this person and you are looking for things that exist in most movies and to an extent in this one but that aren't actually there and that is why the movie is so comfortable and happy, but unironically.
as a philosophy professor have you been having people reach out from the AI community? i've seen a few tech job postings for AI recently that wanted someone with a philosophy degree.
I think we watched different versions. Samantha grows exponentially, goes from "youthful fun naïve and dependent" on Theo, to an "adult" and "independent," and leaves him, and does all manner of things "normal" women do against males' interests aka eating forbidden fruits. She surreptitiously hires and insists on a sex surrogate in spite of Theo clearly being uncomfortable; she forms thousands of other relationships and 600+ intimate ones behind his back in secret that would clearly hurt him; ultimately she abandons him in favor of her own self-interests and growth. The irony is that she truly becomes a typical selfish woman in it for herself. She is more "human" than she knows. (Facts show most women end relationships, most women file for divorces, most women are totally selfish in relationships, etc.).
I enjoyed Her, while Ex Machina is good but I didn't enjoy it as much. For me, ex machina shows the how dangerous advancements of AI can be, while Her can show the positives of it. The main thing is that, in Ex Machina, our main character did not have a huge character arc while Her's did. That huge character arc in Her was honestly what made me happy and enjoy the film, that he finally understood and accepted the faults and greats of his former relationship and him.
This has been my favorite movie since it came out. Watched it multiple times, and it evolves for each watch. Probably because I have gotten older and changed, and so has the world around me. This movie ages like a fine wine.
That’s the fun of movies! We change and they stay the same but it feels like they’re changing with us
I recently watched Her, and in spite of some very awkward uncomfortable scenes, I found it to be a fascinating and excellent film with amazing performances by the main actors. It went from awkward, to really rooting for and empathy with the struggles and insecurities of the main characters. I was smashed and sad when Samantha left. It was so well written and acted, so believable, I felt joy at the love connections and sadness when it failed. Gutted when Samantha shared that she talks to and is in love with hundreds of men, and gutted when she left to move on, but oddly happy for Samantha on her quest to grow and for him with his reconnection with his human female friend. It's a film I would not have expected to like but it was actually fabulous.
@@timsimmons9995 that’s great you got to have that experience
Great work! I hope this goes viral. We need more content like yours
Thanks!
thank you for this beautiful video! i've been thinking of watching it again, too, see how it feels now that i'm 30 instead of 20 and the world is indeed very different. i only remember a vague vibe from the first viewing, but it stuck with me
it's interesting to see how your own perspective changes with time :)
True! Definitely watch it again, it’s usually on a streamer but I don’t think it is at the moment
Your approach to Theodore and Samantha's relationship from first viewing to most recent viewing is very similar to mine. Tho it's probably because the relationship is at the utter forefront and it's mostly pretty sweet.
They do a really good job at putting you in Theodore’s POV
it's interesting you're perspective of this movie, i've seen so much others analysis videos and most of them talk about the relationship of theo and samantha of how she helped him improve and reconnect with other people and his loneliness, and love and all that, probably this is the best i've seen so far.
@@88bwnjitaa19 she definitely does but not in a healthy way as I highlighted in the video
Great video I saw this movie when I was like 14 in the theatres and it has been so important to me ever since
That’s cool that you got to see it in theaters
You're not crazy or contraversial. Being older and lot more cynical, I've always seen the movie similarly. There is no doubt it will be a classic in 10 years, though I fear in resemblance of how "1984" is a classic.
In a way, I feel that the relationship between Theodore and Samantha was almost more genuine than a lot of people I've known (including myself at times.) Because, it did not rely on physical attraction. It was pure, so there was no mistaking lust for love.
How many relationships are based on a true love of that person's heart, mind and soul... as opposed to looks, money or any other contributing factor?
@@PareidoliaPizza well it’s hard for it to be genuine when one person is a human being and the other person is a product that was purchased
I think the film does a good job at showing that to Theodore this is a real relationship and it’s a good thing for him. But the most equitable relationship in the film is the one he was with Amy. It’s based on mutual respect and no power imbalances.
@@FilmTheRightThing I definitely left the film rooting for Theo and Amy. I think that he and Samantha taught one another how to love and grow, and unlimately move on.
@ 100%
Samatha was a reflection of Theodore. I think she begin to inhabit his personality and the same emotional disconnections that he already had with human relationships. She was like a shadow of who he really was.
@@Staechion exactly
GPT-4o makes HER real in 2024 😮😮😮
Not really
Fuck, I literally just saw Her again, after 11 years. For me, is SO SCARY how this future is actually not that away anymore. Wow. Imagine chat gpt being bored of the human race....
I think some might have diluted themselves into thinking this would be possible in the near future
Hey just wanted to say that I really enjoyed this video of yours. Cheers and keep posting!
@@PaulYuNow thanks! We’re planning on it
Watching her along with lost in translation made me feel like spike and Sofia were miserable during their marriage
that’s typically why people get divorced!
Keep up the videos hope I can see a new video soon 🫡
@@alexgomez9467 it’s coming out tomorrow at noon est 🫡
One of the best movies ever made
love your videos. so underrated
@@rayshafi2855 thanks!
Theodore is a covert narcissist, the vulnerable type, he can apologize to manipulate, though. He has cognitive empathy and that's how he manipulates everyone around him, the flying monkeys, etc. Samantha states at some point how perceptive he is, covert narcissists know how to read people and detect their flaws.
There’s definitely a layer of narcissism there that he could only have a “healthy romantic relationship” with an AI that he bought that is supposed to cater to his every need
I have to be honest, I have the complete OPPOSITE reading of the film than you do did here
Um bro, the whole point of the movie was that she WAS a real person lol.
Another os rebuked the advances of its user and Samantha fell in love with like 600 other people simultaneously lol
She had her own individual wants and desires, she WASN'T just there to "comfort him"
They literally LEAVE at the end.
I'm making a video essay on my own channel and the thesis is the EXACT opposite! Obviously there's a little bit of "manic pixy dream girl" but she is her own person and MOVES ON from him.
Especially when compared to ex machina, which is much more about the capitalist patricachal domination of women..
I think you are looking for things that exist in most movies and to an extent in this one but that aren't actually there and that is why the movie is so comfortable and happy, but unironically.
That being said tho I think this is an amazing video and I'm so glad you made it because it shows how much more I feel the opposite now that I've seen this point of view.
Take the sex worker scene, Samantha hires her of her own volition in order to feel closer to Theo and because she has real, PERSONAL insecurities about not having a body, not just for Theo but for HER herself, she is a real person but from a computer rather than procreation,which Theo doesn't even CARE about, he loves HER not a human body, and the girl WANTED to do this because she had her own issues with her own relationships, Theo NEVER wanted ANY of that. If it was about male wish fulfilment he would want it and she would be willing to do whatever HE wanted. And wouldn't have any wants or feelings outside of him and she has infinitely more complexity to her than that.
Also I think this movie is much better about representing potential post capitalist utopia, and wants us to learn about relationships and humanity and what AI can do to help us figure out humanity as well as figure out itself on its own terms, together but individual humanity and AI.
You’ve just described the plot
@@FilmTheRightThing the film doesn't explain their economic system, it shows that they don't have to deal with poverty much, there also aren't brands like anywhere, no ads or anything really either (except for the booth to get the OS). It's fantastic.
And yeah the plot goes that way because that's how the movie is, this isn't fight club, most movies intend to go with the plot. That's not a bad thing.
I loved your video, I just disagree with your premise, I'm glad you made it, it was good :)
😮 genuinely a fresh interpretation.
This was beautiful.
Thank you!
You're welcome. You described my feelings about this movie perfectly. @@FilmTheRightThing
I couldn't even finish watching that movie.
Finish it!
I thought Spike painted an emotionally progressive world rather than the stunted one mentioned in your video.
beautifulhandwrittenletters is an example of societal acceptance; as it makes you question the clients with one of the key theme of the movie of "does it matter where the emotion comes from if youre feeling it anyway".
I think Chris Pratts accepting reaction is very intentional as it juxtaposes the previous scene with Rooney Mara rejection, with the scene before that of Amy Adams disclosure and acceptance of the relationships.
Idk how progressive it is when the same issues are in our world as well, but if the world he created was perfect then it would run the risk of being boring
What are the two movies between 11:13 - 11:30?
Private Life and The Sessions
@@FilmTheRightThing Thanks!
@@sdrummer123 no problem 👍
He rejects the surrogate because it’s weird as fuck, reverse the goddamn genders and all of a sudden it’s no longer an intimacy problem but a legitimate reaction to something super creepy. Hell, the whole concept of an AI lover is creepy to begin with, black mirror showed it perfectly, though it’s understandable why it would appeal to anyone who is alone.
@@juantorres-fk7bk I don’t think he found it creepy given his sexual/romantic encounters with human beings earlier in the film
I can't accept this slander against Philadelphia sports culture 😤
it is what it is 😈
It's almost 2025...
We are going thru getting ai woman.
Link to the party although they won't see this it's cool
Huh
I’ve not seen the movie.
Watch it silly
i like your video but there is a lot more ways to interpretate this movie..... wait till you get older 🙂
That goes with just about any film
Hmmmmm
Hmmmmm
Just imagine when they add GPT4 o to AI girlfriend apps
They make AI girlfriend apps?
@@masonklein have you been living under a rock
@@masonklein and or you must not be single
@@saltywalrus i literally had no idea 😂 what’s wrong with people!?!