@@aminorerror Sure. But start by getting rid of the main issue which here seems to be faulty hardware. This rant gets a bit off topic at times, a lot of what you complain about has noting to do with your machine and it also seems your technical knowlede is limited... That being said I understand your frustration.... By the way if you don't want iCloud to move your files to the cloud simply disable the functionality and the local copy will stay on your desktop and keep a copy in the cloud like you want. Did you even research this? Or were you busy recording this video instead?
@@aminorerror Well the other biggest point was that your older versions of software was not compatible natively with Apple Silicon which is expected and you likely should have done more research before going for it instead of maybe getting a second hand intel machine from 2019/2020. Other than that it seems like system stability is your biggest issue.
Hi! I had very similar experience with my M1 Macbook Pro. Initially it was crashing non stop. The problem was that I restored applications and files from my timemachine backup, which included a bunch of ancient drivers or kernel extensions or whatever they are called. Solution was to do a fresh install (erase the hard drive, install just the operating system). Then restored just my documents but no applications from the timemachine backup. And finally I installed all the software manually, and after that, there's been absolutely no crashes whatsoever.
THANK YOU! That's a really helpful tip, I hadn't even thought of that and nobody else has suggested it either but that makes a lot of sense. Also, a total pain in the ass and more to my point that Intel apps just shouldn't even have the option of running as that would have saved me most of my problems besides the hard crashing of the system.
@@aminorerror I hope it helps. I agree it's a major flaw from Apple that they have not sufficiently considered people who have upgraded years ago from PowerPC to Intel and now to Apple Silicon. The new machines just can't handle very old software and drivers.
My biggest issue as a Mac user is that if you have actual problems and ask for help on Mac forums you are often labelled as anti Apple. F*ck off to all the zealots.
Yeah, it sounds like your device had an issue. I've been rocking an M1 Air for years now, and it's worked like a dream-even with music production. I agree with you about the RAM though. 😄
Yeah, restarts shouldn’t take 10 minutes. Might be wise to use recovery mode to reset the laptop and try installing individual programs and see if anything is tripping up the computer. I switched to Apple Silicon M2 Pro and can restart the computer in less than a minute and have had minimal issues with the laptop running poorly with Ableton and Digital Performer 11. As for iCloud, just make a projects/lessons/“whatever you want to call it” folder that is local on the Mac or on an external drive. Not all of your files have to be synced with iCloud.
Thanks for watching and the tip on iCloud! That was def on me, although Idk how to set it up so iCloud doesn't upload a certain file, I'll have to do a google search for that. Or I think I'm just gonna pass on iCloud for now lol
Regarding the restarts that seems like a hardware issue that you need to return or get some kind of support cause that isn't normal. But the software issues have more to do with software vendors the M series has been out for over 3 years now. They could have optimised their apps to work or clearly stated that they would be releasing new versions. But your biggest issue is the hardware you have some kind of factory fault. Plus there is also a bit of user error, plus having things that have old IO. You also fall into a very unique group of people who have very unique hardware.
LOL...this sounds like a nightmare. I know you don't want to go to PC, but I run my DAW, almost all the NDSP plugins (2 at a time sometimes), dual monitors, etc. on Windows 11 with 16 GB of RAM with no issues. The only problem I have experienced is having too many tabs open in the browser and the memory gets consumed. I could add more memory and solve that issue for sure, but I just close some tabs and all is restored. The cable format changes are ridiculous...and then they have the guts to charge 10x what a cable is worth to get the Apple-branded cables! See you Sunday - hopefully your system is working!
A few thoughts. 1. Not sure about your Macbook pro. I upgraded to an M3 MacBook air from an Intel MacBook Pro and absolutely no crashes. It also takes only a few seconds to boot. So something is going on with your Mac. Maybe get it checked. 2. MacOS updates. Sure, they update it yearly but for the most part, the new updates are "hidden" and the new OS looks and functions mostly like the old one. You can pretty much ignore the new features if you like. 3. It's not really fair blaming apple for the upgrade policies of the other software that you use. Should Apple not have moved to Apple Silicone for software compatibility? 4. USB A? Man, it's 2024 now. Everything will be USB-C soon. But I've never had any problems using USB A devices on my Macbook Air.
Regarding the OS updates: You don't *have* to update those every year. Apple supports each version for up to 3 years. So you'll still be able to get security updates and other minor things for the same OS during that time. You can manually achieve the 2-3 year cadence yourself and that's what most pros end up doing. Just make sure to turn off auto updates and auto downloading of those updates so you can manually decide what to install in the control panel.
Thanks for the tip, that's very helpful! Still a total pain in the ass and I'll have to do research on how to only download and install the security updates and not the larger update as a whole.
On the shutdown blues: my windows 11 tower removed the option to sleep from the start menu. I guess the tech bros believe electricity is both costless and generated at no cost. Boy do i miss hibernate.
So really the complaint really is with the companies who have not updated their software, causing problems with your MacBook. Never experienced a single issue with Waves or other third party audio software, Logic, Final Cut, iCloud, etc. Perhaps it’s the migration from your older MacBook (given that is how you set it up). If I missed that in the video, apologies. Hope it works out, mate! Sounds like you’ve had a damned frustrating time and I can imagine the frustration.
I'm thinking it probably has something to do with older versions of plugins that came over the in the migration so I'm gonna give that a try. Kinda strengths my point though, if it's gonna be buggy or cause issues, don't even let em run instead of forcing me to play wack a mole trying to figure out which old version is causing problems. Thanks for the comment!
Help, my boyfriend's Macbook Pro M3 Max seems to not work properly. When he tries to open finder it crashes right away and has a pinwheel of death no matter how many times we've restarted or relaunched the finder
I use Cubase on an M1 Mac Studio in my studio 14 hours a day 6 days a week and it's never crashed on me so far and i run very large projects. I've learned over the years, always stay at the very least one OS behind where possible, some of your problems might be if you are on the latest OS. Don't be scared of using PCs either they are very stable for DAW work as long as it's used only for DAW work and not games as well
I've been having crashing issues with my Intel-based MacBook recently and I believe it's related to USB devices I have attached. I was charging an iPod Touch and some ear buds (non-apple) and it may be an issue with the cables being old or something - but if I unplug everything from my USB ports - it doesn't crash. So if you have a bunch of devices attached with USB - you might try unplugging them to see if it makes a difference.
Thanks for the tip! I def think some of my problems are because of running the older USB interface that doesn't have an updated version of the software to run it. I'm just tapped out, can't justify another $650 upgrade after everything I already paid.
Thats very unlucky. Ive been using my 1st gen M1 MacBook pro for years now as a professional software developer. I close the lid and use it for 8+ hours every day and it has crashed MAYBE 2 or 3 times since i got it. I would wipe the drive clean and see if it stops crashing, that would indicate a software issue. If it still crashes on a clean install I would assume its hardware related, sounds like a broken product and I would try to get a warranty replacement.
I’ve never had an issue with my M3 laptop. Sounds like a faulty unit… I’d schedule an appointment at the Apple Store. Rosetta translation layer also has to be installed too… but I feel ya. I have to pay an upgrade for IK, waves, the big pain is the Kontakt player though.
Hey Man! Similar story here with my M1 Max 16“ mbp! Finally after like almost three years I have the system running great. I had similar problems. Time Machine fucking up (I was in contact with mac developers) and many other problems. As of usb A devices, as long as you have separate cables and devices, you can easily buy usb-c to usb type B cables. I have a few interfaces and other devices that I run this way no problems. Even managed to get the Time Machine Drive back running. As for the iCloud issue, I reckon just putting one folder of the finder to iCloud (drive) and letting the rest of the file system locally. That way you can put things on iCloud that you actively need on all devices. I can feel you about all of these issues! My UAD Apollo made so much trouble (at some stage the Thunderbolt card was broken) and I’m coming from the same 2014 15“ mbp which was running things better quite often 😮 I doubt that Apple silicon is really that much better when it comes to cpu power regarding loads of third party apps… My journey included going from the mbp 15“ to a m1 air (as nothing pro was available yet) and the air was sooo much worse than my intel mbp. Only the M1 Max that I had to buy as one of the first was bringing light into the tunnel… but even now, I sometimes wish I could go back to Intel times🙏
Thanks for watching and I'm glad to hear you'd had success getting the bugs worked out. I'm running my Quad cortex, MOTU Ultralite MkIII USB and backup drive all through the same USB C hub. Do you think I should try different cables? Right now, when adding in the USB A iLok I'd def be over the amount of USB inputs on the laptop which was why I was using the USB hub in the first place. I def need to upgrade the MOTU, no doubt some of the system crashes have been because of that but I'm just tapped out right now and can't justify yet another expensive upgrade right now.
Hello, I can feel it really hard. That was an absolute disaster. I am writing to you for two reasons. Firstly, I can't see how you suffer, and secondly, I would like to know for myself what and why it all went wrong. II am happy to offer you my help. What, according to your description, is quite certainly the problem is that one of the migrated kernel-close audio drivers leads to a blockage and the deadlocks. The thing has to boot in a maximum of one tenth of the time and only such drivers can cause a black screen and will also cause some problem with other devices. It’s the reason new drivers aren’t allowed to run in kernel space any more. I migrated the M1 Pro and also from Intel here, but as a developer it was clear to me that I should not migrate the apps but only account with data. Then I installed app per app fresh after figuring out which versions I’d need. If I can reach you in any way (website, mail, etc.) I will be happy to write to you and hopefully find a solution together. I would be happy to write a bug report to Apple with you, which will not only mention the problems, but also bring a suggestion for solving the problem.
It sounds like you've got a broken macbook. Apple silicon macbooks are - in my experience - more stable than any other computers I have used. This is not normal behaviour, it is broken, send it back.
Wtf I am still rocking the 2014 pro with a 1cm deep dent in the keyboard, because a 5kg glass brick fell on it. The music kept playing :D Still flawless.
Watching this on the "new" Intel Macbook pro 16 in I just bought from work. We recycle and refurb devices and I got an i9 macbook, with 32BG RAM, a 1 TB SSD and like 120 charging cycles. This runs like a dream. New it was probably north of $3500 but I got it for $400 because no one wants Intel Macs anymore. It doesnt need compatability layers, everything I had been using works just great and so far Windows Bootcamp runs well too if I need it.
2018-2019 Intel macs are getting cheap now - maybe get one of those as a backup unit - I have various plugins / instrument libraries and they def can be buggy - if you're porting across old saved files from Intel software, that's risky, or time-consuming I'm afraid - Apple Silicon is a different world - and smaller audio companies aren't going to spend time converting old software without more money to pay for it. Good video, hope it works out for you.
I agree with the rest of the people. Take it back to Apple. Make them replace it if possible instead of “fixing” it. You already lost precious time and money. Good luck!
I switched from my M1 macbook air to a 2015 macbook pro.. Untill windows can be dual booted onto the macbook again i wont be upgrading that will force a lot of these software companies to provide the support for the ARM processors. simply the new M chips dont have support for software yet...
@@jared9127 a lot of things aren't optimized and only running through conversion programs. When Window's contract is up hopefully it will allow them to provide support for windows and therefore provide more incentive to get apps optimized for both platforms.
working on an M2 pro mac mini and i also use an M3 imac 8G ram and i edit 4K video all the time,weddings small advertisment clips etcI also use GP and logic pro for my guitar projects and stuff for my band.Never had any issue with anything and it seems weird and also saddening that you have all the problems of the world in a single machine.Maybe and i am only guessing something is transfered badly or translated wrongly causing issues or this particular machine has major faults
So far the only sound software that doesn't just work 10x better on Apple Silicon for me is Ableton. Lots of crashes and needs some major updates. Otherwise, everything else runs with no crashes and way smoother than it did even on its native architecture. Much faster loading times, and much less CPU usage and heat than my jet engine i9 macbook pro, and I'm just using a 13" 8gb m3 now. You are right about chrome though. I swear chrome sabatoged their mac port. Sucks just as bad for me on the intel macs though.
It does sound like you might have faulty hardware on your hands actually. I'm sure Apple will replace that for you just give them a ring. The plugin compatibility thing, well yeah that's kind of the perennial problem I guess. It took Avid 2.2 years to roll out a native Apple Silicon version of Pro Tools for example. Not all developers are as cheap as Avid though and there is a lot of stuff out there that just works. M3 Macbooks have the misfortune of having to run Sonoma as well and there are a bunch of updates pending for that. I noticed NI released Sonoma compatible Kontakt version just the other week finally. From the symptoms you've described though I would say your hardware is faulty.
...it's a factory problem, return it and ask for another one, your problems will be gone...macbook's are the best laptops on the planet right now, but yes the are sooooo expensive...Apple is killing us with the price!😕(btw, it seems like the laptop has memory problem with ram....)🤔
Idk man. It’s really annoying. But I’m a long time fan of your channel, and really appreciate your original music. I’m a big fan of BTBAM and Protest the Hero and I feel like your playing is a perfect synergy between the two. Totally get the motivation for this video, but am hoping to see more playing from your channel in the future. Congrats on the twins btw; that’s amazing dude!!!
Thanks for all the support, it really means a lot! That's crazy high praise, BTBAM and Protest are freaking incredible, I'm glad that the influences are coming across. I'll be getting back to the normal content soon, finishing up a new original tune now that's been stuck in purgatory since the babies came in September and then six guitar reviews and a crap ton of pedals and other gear. The twins are amazing too, just a lot of work! lol
Sounds like you got a lemon. Apple's warranty is better than any other computer manufacturer in my experience, get it swapped. I have a M1 macbook pro that I got at launch and it's been completely fine since 2020.
lol it is really the first dude i've heard who complains about these babies, i think you should follow apple guidelines and first do a diagnostic on your mac , turn it off, unplugg everything and boot it by keeping the touch ID button until you see the boot option menu , then press command +D until it reboots into diagnostics mode, this mode will test every port and every component on the mac , i'm sure you just have a faulty unit, and Apple will take care of it by replacing it . I have 2 M3 max 16 MBP and not a single issue like you had since they got released . these are screamers and way less hot and less fan when doing intensive task or gaming than M1 max... Just the fact that your macbook takes more than 30 sec to turn off ( you said 10 minutes ) is a sign that something is really wrong cos these beasts are fast to reboot, or turn off.
Totally agree on the performance of the laptop...when it works lol How easy it handles 4k video editing and I can run my DAW at a crazy low buffer now, so no complaints on the performance end of things.
@@Just-Alexiel Like I mentioned in the video, I'm really busy so I haven't been able to take it to apple or get it diagnosed yet. I work 7 days a week in the spring and summer and use the laptop 6 days a week for my lessons so I won't have time to formally get it all addressed until September. There has been some updates though: Chrome has fixed itself somehow and hasn't been an issue for teaching. I've been keeping the control software for my older interface closed and only open it when I need to and that's helped with some stability. Apps still crash and it hard crashed just this past friday again so I'm just making it work for now. I got a couple comments suggesting that I should do a fresh wipe of the system, then only migrate over my files and do a fresh install of all of my apps and other software. I wish there was some kind of warning when doing the first migrate from apple giving you a heads up about the possible issues with Intel apps, as that would have saved me hours. To reinstall all my apps and make sure all my project files open for lessons would take at least 5+ hours though and again I don't have the time currently. Thanks again for checking in!
@@aminorerror maybe you could read again my first reply cos you can easili do a diagnostic yourself as i saif , just unplug everything connected, keep magsafe only , and shut it down, then just press and hold the touch ID button , and when you see the boot options, just keep pressing command and D until the mac will reboot into diagnostics mode, this will help you a lot to know if this is an hardware issue, or software one. it would take 5 min to do . but i hope you'll find out soon .
What you're talking about? All you said is not normal behaviour. Have the mac checked, really, what you are saying is NOT normal behavior, it's clear something weird is happening. 10 minutes to shut down? restart if you close the lid? Have it checked, you have warranty, use it. You are not having the real behaviour a mac should have.
So did you ever contact Apple, orrrr....? I'm absolutely beside myself how you could have even gotten past "my computer restarts when I close the lid" without contacting AppleCare for a replacement machine. Nearly every single complaint in this video-including compatibility issues with x86 apps, the vast majority of which run as well or even *faster* under Rosetta emulation-is *obviously* the result of a faulty unit. And you seemingly did absolutely nothing to address that, other than compile complaints for a UA-cam video? "I'm also sick of getting a new version of [macOS] every fall." Ugh, how *dare* Apple give us updated software for free! You do, of course, have the option of staying on the previous version, which many people-particularly exalted professionals such as yourself-do without issue. And I won't even go into the massive sense of entitlement, snootiness, and self-absorption that pervades this entire video. You aren't the only busy person with a job and kids, dude. You should have spent the time it took to record this video getting a replacement for your obviously faulty Mac.
You know those software updates also come with security patches too right? So by not updating it makes a machine that's vulnerable. Deciding not to upgrade because of compatibility issues is a crap solution. And I'm entitled to act however I'd like after I've spent over 2k on a machine that doesn't work at advertised. If you don't like my vibe, feel free to never come back. Thanks bye!
Sounds like one of them 1 in 10,000 lemons that tend to happen in electronics. I am typing this on a 16" M3 Max MBP and never have these issues (Obviously not the fees to upgrade those programs, but that isn't Apple's fault those other companies charge you extra to use the same product).
Glad to hear you haven't had problems with yours, I'm not convinced it's just a lemon. The problems I'm having are bigger than that. Thanks for watching.
Watched unteil 7:00. You have a defective united. U should have stopped there, send it back an get a new one. I have a M1 Macbook, a M2 Pro, Macstudio. None of them have any problems. They also shut down in less than a minute. With the execption of zoom, which is a f*** piece of sh*** everything works and does not crash. So again, defective unit! have it replaced, and about 80% of your problem are gone. Nice playing in between. Oh, and dump icloud use dropbox.
If you watched more you'd see it's more than just a bad device. It def could be a lemon though but there's more to it than that. Thanks for watching and commenting though, I'll def take the tip on Dropbox! I've been using that to backup my USB drive and that's been working great so far.
The audio software companies had to spend a lot of money to updating their software. You never bought an apple silicon compatible piece of software so getting it for free is not realistic. Apple was the only winner not those companies.
Only MAC people will buy a $4500 laptop and then trash talk the $1000 5-years older Windows laptop it replaced. How about you compare to a new $4500 Windows laptop instead.
I dunno. I superseded a 2020 Macbook Air (~$1500) with a 2023 Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 (~$1000 heavily discounted) and the Yoga is worse in almost every single way: battery life, trackpad, keyboard, no thunderbolt. These don't seem like big issues but it adds up to a shitty experience and so I've switched back to the Macbook for mobile use. *If* a Mac works well with the software you need, it is usually difficult to beat.
@@Hundredthldiot Totally agree, since M1, MAC performance has matched or even exceeded Windows laptops. But for the majority of history that has not been the case. Also if you add the need for more ram and storage MACs' prices shoot up way too fast putting them out of reach for most people to even consider as an option, and they become way worse value at that point.
@@why_though yeah, but what I've discovered from shopping for Windows laptops is that even the expensive ones can be crappy. If you can get by with 24GB ram, 500GB SSD and only one external display, an M2 MacBook Air is the best hardware under $2K in my opinion.
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Send your MacBook back. My M3 pro has never crashed ..... yet.
uh oh. now that you said it..
same
Sounds like you have a faulty product. Get a replacement
Everything I've described is way more than it's just a faulty product.
Faulty ssd I reckon
@@aminorerror Sure. But start by getting rid of the main issue which here seems to be faulty hardware. This rant gets a bit off topic at times, a lot of what you complain about has noting to do with your machine and it also seems your technical knowlede is limited... That being said I understand your frustration.... By the way if you don't want iCloud to move your files to the cloud simply disable the functionality and the local copy will stay on your desktop and keep a copy in the cloud like you want. Did you even research this? Or were you busy recording this video instead?
@@Moonatik792 I was gonna say bad ram. Random crashes in my experience are from bad ram.
@@aminorerror Well the other biggest point was that your older versions of software was not compatible natively with Apple Silicon which is expected and you likely should have done more research before going for it instead of maybe getting a second hand intel machine from 2019/2020.
Other than that it seems like system stability is your biggest issue.
Hi! I had very similar experience with my M1 Macbook Pro. Initially it was crashing non stop. The problem was that I restored applications and files from my timemachine backup, which included a bunch of ancient drivers or kernel extensions or whatever they are called. Solution was to do a fresh install (erase the hard drive, install just the operating system). Then restored just my documents but no applications from the timemachine backup. And finally I installed all the software manually, and after that, there's been absolutely no crashes whatsoever.
THANK YOU! That's a really helpful tip, I hadn't even thought of that and nobody else has suggested it either but that makes a lot of sense. Also, a total pain in the ass and more to my point that Intel apps just shouldn't even have the option of running as that would have saved me most of my problems besides the hard crashing of the system.
@@aminorerror I hope it helps. I agree it's a major flaw from Apple that they have not sufficiently considered people who have upgraded years ago from PowerPC to Intel and now to Apple Silicon. The new machines just can't handle very old software and drivers.
My biggest issue as a Mac user is that if you have actual problems and ask for help on Mac forums you are often labelled as anti Apple. F*ck off to all the zealots.
Yeah, it sounds like your device had an issue. I've been rocking an M1 Air for years now, and it's worked like a dream-even with music production. I agree with you about the RAM though. 😄
Yeah, restarts shouldn’t take 10 minutes. Might be wise to use recovery mode to reset the laptop and try installing individual programs and see if anything is tripping up the computer. I switched to Apple Silicon M2 Pro and can restart the computer in less than a minute and have had minimal issues with the laptop running poorly with Ableton and Digital Performer 11.
As for iCloud, just make a projects/lessons/“whatever you want to call it” folder that is local on the Mac or on an external drive. Not all of your files have to be synced with iCloud.
Thanks for watching and the tip on iCloud! That was def on me, although Idk how to set it up so iCloud doesn't upload a certain file, I'll have to do a google search for that. Or I think I'm just gonna pass on iCloud for now lol
Regarding the restarts that seems like a hardware issue that you need to return or get some kind of support cause that isn't normal. But the software issues have more to do with software vendors the M series has been out for over 3 years now. They could have optimised their apps to work or clearly stated that they would be releasing new versions. But your biggest issue is the hardware you have some kind of factory fault. Plus there is also a bit of user error, plus having things that have old IO. You also fall into a very unique group of people who have very unique hardware.
LOL...this sounds like a nightmare. I know you don't want to go to PC, but I run my DAW, almost all the NDSP plugins (2 at a time sometimes), dual monitors, etc. on Windows 11 with 16 GB of RAM with no issues. The only problem I have experienced is having too many tabs open in the browser and the memory gets consumed. I could add more memory and solve that issue for sure, but I just close some tabs and all is restored. The cable format changes are ridiculous...and then they have the guts to charge 10x what a cable is worth to get the Apple-branded cables!
See you Sunday - hopefully your system is working!
A few thoughts.
1. Not sure about your Macbook pro. I upgraded to an M3 MacBook air from an Intel MacBook Pro and absolutely no crashes. It also takes only a few seconds to boot. So something is going on with your Mac. Maybe get it checked.
2. MacOS updates. Sure, they update it yearly but for the most part, the new updates are "hidden" and the new OS looks and functions mostly like the old one. You can pretty much ignore the new features if you like.
3. It's not really fair blaming apple for the upgrade policies of the other software that you use. Should Apple not have moved to Apple Silicone for software compatibility?
4. USB A? Man, it's 2024 now. Everything will be USB-C soon. But I've never had any problems using USB A devices on my Macbook Air.
Regarding the OS updates: You don't *have* to update those every year. Apple supports each version for up to 3 years. So you'll still be able to get security updates and other minor things for the same OS during that time. You can manually achieve the 2-3 year cadence yourself and that's what most pros end up doing. Just make sure to turn off auto updates and auto downloading of those updates so you can manually decide what to install in the control panel.
Thanks for the tip, that's very helpful! Still a total pain in the ass and I'll have to do research on how to only download and install the security updates and not the larger update as a whole.
On the shutdown blues: my windows 11 tower removed the option to sleep from the start menu. I guess the tech bros believe electricity is both costless and generated at no cost. Boy do i miss hibernate.
My m3 max is a beast. Zero issues. Sounds like you need to make a trip to the apple bar.
Terrible attempt at a clickbait title. You got a faulty unit. Get it replaced.
Na, everything I've described is clearly way more than it's just a faulty model. You obviously only watched the first chapter.
Sounds like faulty product at chapter 3
So really the complaint really is with the companies who have not updated their software, causing problems with your MacBook.
Never experienced a single issue with Waves or other third party audio software, Logic, Final Cut, iCloud, etc.
Perhaps it’s the migration from your older MacBook (given that is how you set it up). If I missed that in the video, apologies.
Hope it works out, mate!
Sounds like you’ve had a damned frustrating time and I can imagine the frustration.
I'm thinking it probably has something to do with older versions of plugins that came over the in the migration so I'm gonna give that a try. Kinda strengths my point though, if it's gonna be buggy or cause issues, don't even let em run instead of forcing me to play wack a mole trying to figure out which old version is causing problems. Thanks for the comment!
Help, my boyfriend's Macbook Pro M3 Max seems to not work properly. When he tries to open finder it crashes right away and has a pinwheel of death no matter how many times we've restarted or relaunched the finder
That's beyond what I could help with unfortunately, best bet is opening a service ticket with apply. Good luck!
I use Cubase on an M1 Mac Studio in my studio 14 hours a day 6 days a week and it's never crashed on me so far and i run very large projects. I've learned over the years, always stay at the very least one OS behind where possible, some of your problems might be if you are on the latest OS. Don't be scared of using PCs either they are very stable for DAW work as long as it's used only for DAW work and not games as well
I realized something important while watching your video. There is a great need for shreddlord guitar stuff in the youtube tech space!
I've been having crashing issues with my Intel-based MacBook recently and I believe it's related to USB devices I have attached. I was charging an iPod Touch and some ear buds (non-apple) and it may be an issue with the cables being old or something - but if I unplug everything from my USB ports - it doesn't crash. So if you have a bunch of devices attached with USB - you might try unplugging them to see if it makes a difference.
Thanks for the tip! I def think some of my problems are because of running the older USB interface that doesn't have an updated version of the software to run it. I'm just tapped out, can't justify another $650 upgrade after everything I already paid.
Thats very unlucky. Ive been using my 1st gen M1 MacBook pro for years now as a professional software developer. I close the lid and use it for 8+ hours every day and it has crashed MAYBE 2 or 3 times since i got it.
I would wipe the drive clean and see if it stops crashing, that would indicate a software issue. If it still crashes on a clean install I would assume its hardware related, sounds like a broken product and I would try to get a warranty replacement.
I’ve never had an issue with my M3 laptop. Sounds like a faulty unit… I’d schedule an appointment at the Apple Store.
Rosetta translation layer also has to be installed too… but I feel ya. I have to pay an upgrade for IK, waves, the big pain is the Kontakt player though.
I would love a MacOS LTS version. 3-4 years of support, and no breaking changes with the bleeding-edge version.
Hey Man!
Similar story here with my M1 Max 16“ mbp!
Finally after like almost three years I have the system running great. I had similar problems. Time Machine fucking up (I was in contact with mac developers) and many other problems.
As of usb A devices, as long as you have separate cables and devices, you can easily buy usb-c to usb type B cables. I have a few interfaces and other devices that I run this way no problems. Even managed to get the Time Machine Drive back running.
As for the iCloud issue, I reckon just putting one folder of the finder to iCloud (drive) and letting the rest of the file system locally. That way you can put things on iCloud that you actively need on all devices.
I can feel you about all of these issues! My UAD Apollo made so much trouble (at some stage the Thunderbolt card was broken) and I’m coming from the same 2014 15“ mbp which was running things better quite often 😮 I doubt that Apple silicon is really that much better when it comes to cpu power regarding loads of third party apps…
My journey included going from the mbp 15“ to a m1 air (as nothing pro was available yet) and the air was sooo much worse than my intel mbp. Only the M1 Max that I had to buy as one of the first was bringing light into the tunnel… but even now, I sometimes wish I could go back to Intel times🙏
Thanks for watching and I'm glad to hear you'd had success getting the bugs worked out. I'm running my Quad cortex, MOTU Ultralite MkIII USB and backup drive all through the same USB C hub. Do you think I should try different cables? Right now, when adding in the USB A iLok I'd def be over the amount of USB inputs on the laptop which was why I was using the USB hub in the first place. I def need to upgrade the MOTU, no doubt some of the system crashes have been because of that but I'm just tapped out right now and can't justify yet another expensive upgrade right now.
Hello,
I can feel it really hard. That was an absolute disaster.
I am writing to you for two reasons. Firstly, I can't see how you suffer, and secondly, I would like to know for myself what and why it all went wrong.
II am happy to offer you my help.
What, according to your description, is quite certainly the problem is that one of the migrated kernel-close audio drivers leads to a blockage and the deadlocks. The thing has to boot in a maximum of one tenth of the time and only such drivers can cause a black screen and will also cause some problem with other devices.
It’s the reason new drivers aren’t allowed to run in kernel space any more.
I migrated the M1 Pro and also from Intel here, but as a developer it was clear to me that I should not migrate the apps but only account with data. Then I installed app per app fresh after figuring out which versions I’d need.
If I can reach you in any way (website, mail, etc.) I will be happy to write to you and hopefully find a solution together.
I would be happy to write a bug report to Apple with you, which will not only mention the problems, but also bring a suggestion for solving the problem.
It sounds like you've got a broken macbook. Apple silicon macbooks are - in my experience - more stable than any other computers I have used. This is not normal behaviour, it is broken, send it back.
Wtf I am still rocking the 2014 pro with a 1cm deep dent in the keyboard, because a 5kg glass brick fell on it. The music kept playing :D Still flawless.
Watching this on the "new" Intel Macbook pro 16 in I just bought from work. We recycle and refurb devices and I got an i9 macbook, with 32BG RAM, a 1 TB SSD and like 120 charging cycles. This runs like a dream. New it was probably north of $3500 but I got it for $400 because no one wants Intel Macs anymore. It doesnt need compatability layers, everything I had been using works just great and so far Windows Bootcamp runs well too if I need it.
Most developers have already updated their software to be M native. I think his issue is that it means paying for a new version of the software.
use mine for muic production and Djing heavily. 8 hour sets in large venues NEVER had one single crash. Either user error or a dud unit mate.
2018-2019 Intel macs are getting cheap now - maybe get one of those as a backup unit - I have various plugins / instrument libraries and they def can be buggy - if you're porting across old saved files from Intel software, that's risky, or time-consuming I'm afraid - Apple Silicon is a different world - and smaller audio companies aren't going to spend time converting old software without more money to pay for it. Good video, hope it works out for you.
Yeah its bad for audio lol we just went with the m2 at the studiobi work at. Most audio stuff doesn't like the m3 yet
I agree with the rest of the people. Take it back to Apple. Make them replace it if possible instead of “fixing” it. You already lost precious time and money. Good luck!
I switched from my M1 macbook air to a 2015 macbook pro.. Untill windows can be dual booted onto the macbook again i wont be upgrading that will force a lot of these software companies to provide the support for the ARM processors. simply the new M chips dont have support for software yet...
Literally the only thing the M-series doesn't support at this point is booting into Windows, and that's entirely Microsoft's fault.
@@jared9127 a lot of things aren't optimized and only running through conversion programs. When Window's contract is up hopefully it will allow them to provide support for windows and therefore provide more incentive to get apps optimized for both platforms.
working on an M2 pro mac mini and i also use an M3 imac 8G ram and i edit 4K video all the time,weddings small advertisment clips etcI also use GP and logic pro for my guitar projects and stuff for my band.Never had any issue with anything and it seems weird and also saddening that you have all the problems of the world in a single machine.Maybe and i am only guessing something is transfered badly or translated wrongly causing issues or this particular machine has major faults
So far the only sound software that doesn't just work 10x better on Apple Silicon for me is Ableton. Lots of crashes and needs some major updates.
Otherwise, everything else runs with no crashes and way smoother than it did even on its native architecture. Much faster loading times, and much less CPU usage and heat than my jet engine i9 macbook pro, and I'm just using a 13" 8gb m3 now.
You are right about chrome though. I swear chrome sabatoged their mac port. Sucks just as bad for me on the intel macs though.
It has a 1 Gig hard drive ? 👀
It does sound like you might have faulty hardware on your hands actually. I'm sure Apple will replace that for you just give them a ring. The plugin compatibility thing, well yeah that's kind of the perennial problem I guess. It took Avid 2.2 years to roll out a native Apple Silicon version of Pro Tools for example. Not all developers are as cheap as Avid though and there is a lot of stuff out there that just works. M3 Macbooks have the misfortune of having to run Sonoma as well and there are a bunch of updates pending for that. I noticed NI released Sonoma compatible Kontakt version just the other week finally. From the symptoms you've described though I would say your hardware is faulty.
Thanks for the tip!
Congratulations on your the twins and the new house.
Thank you!
MY BRO ! So M2 Ultra it is :)
...it's a factory problem, return it and ask for another one, your problems will be gone...macbook's are the best laptops on the planet right now, but yes the are sooooo expensive...Apple is killing us with the price!😕(btw, it seems like the laptop has memory problem with ram....)🤔
Guitar Pro 7 crashes when my M1 goes to sleep every time. Super fucking annoying.
Yea so what's that all about!? Thanks for stopping back!
Idk man. It’s really annoying. But I’m a long time fan of your channel, and really appreciate your original music. I’m a big fan of BTBAM and Protest the Hero and I feel like your playing is a perfect synergy between the two. Totally get the motivation for this video, but am hoping to see more playing from your channel in the future. Congrats on the twins btw; that’s amazing dude!!!
Thanks for all the support, it really means a lot! That's crazy high praise, BTBAM and Protest are freaking incredible, I'm glad that the influences are coming across. I'll be getting back to the normal content soon, finishing up a new original tune now that's been stuck in purgatory since the babies came in September and then six guitar reviews and a crap ton of pedals and other gear. The twins are amazing too, just a lot of work! lol
"It just works..." right?
Sounds like you got a lemon. Apple's warranty is better than any other computer manufacturer in my experience, get it swapped. I have a M1 macbook pro that I got at launch and it's been completely fine since 2020.
watching this on my m3 pro mbp rn, take this to apple immediately. that is not how your Mac should behave
You got a faulty product. Most of what you described are signs of a faulty product.
lol it is really the first dude i've heard who complains about these babies, i think you should follow apple guidelines and first do a diagnostic on your mac , turn it off, unplugg everything and boot it by keeping the touch ID button until you see the boot option menu , then press command +D until it reboots into diagnostics mode, this mode will test every port and every component on the mac , i'm sure you just have a faulty unit, and Apple will take care of it by replacing it . I have 2 M3 max 16 MBP and not a single issue like you had since they got released . these are screamers and way less hot and less fan when doing intensive task or gaming than M1 max... Just the fact that your macbook takes more than 30 sec to turn off ( you said 10 minutes ) is a sign that something is really wrong cos these beasts are fast to reboot, or turn off.
Totally agree on the performance of the laptop...when it works lol How easy it handles 4k video editing and I can run my DAW at a crazy low buffer now, so no complaints on the performance end of things.
@@aminorerror can we have some news ? did you call Apple ? what does diaignostic mode says ? i hope it's fixed by now .
@@Just-Alexiel Like I mentioned in the video, I'm really busy so I haven't been able to take it to apple or get it diagnosed yet. I work 7 days a week in the spring and summer and use the laptop 6 days a week for my lessons so I won't have time to formally get it all addressed until September. There has been some updates though: Chrome has fixed itself somehow and hasn't been an issue for teaching. I've been keeping the control software for my older interface closed and only open it when I need to and that's helped with some stability. Apps still crash and it hard crashed just this past friday again so I'm just making it work for now. I got a couple comments suggesting that I should do a fresh wipe of the system, then only migrate over my files and do a fresh install of all of my apps and other software. I wish there was some kind of warning when doing the first migrate from apple giving you a heads up about the possible issues with Intel apps, as that would have saved me hours. To reinstall all my apps and make sure all my project files open for lessons would take at least 5+ hours though and again I don't have the time currently. Thanks again for checking in!
@@aminorerror maybe you could read again my first reply cos you can easili do a diagnostic yourself as i saif , just unplug everything connected, keep magsafe only , and shut it down, then just press and hold the touch ID button , and when you see the boot options, just keep pressing command and D until the mac will reboot into diagnostics mode, this will help you a lot to know if this is an hardware issue, or software one. it would take 5 min to do . but i hope you'll find out soon .
What you're talking about? All you said is not normal behaviour. Have the mac checked, really, what you are saying is NOT normal behavior, it's clear something weird is happening. 10 minutes to shut down? restart if you close the lid?
Have it checked, you have warranty, use it. You are not having the real behaviour a mac should have.
So did you ever contact Apple, orrrr....? I'm absolutely beside myself how you could have even gotten past "my computer restarts when I close the lid" without contacting AppleCare for a replacement machine. Nearly every single complaint in this video-including compatibility issues with x86 apps, the vast majority of which run as well or even *faster* under Rosetta emulation-is *obviously* the result of a faulty unit. And you seemingly did absolutely nothing to address that, other than compile complaints for a UA-cam video?
"I'm also sick of getting a new version of [macOS] every fall." Ugh, how *dare* Apple give us updated software for free! You do, of course, have the option of staying on the previous version, which many people-particularly exalted professionals such as yourself-do without issue.
And I won't even go into the massive sense of entitlement, snootiness, and self-absorption that pervades this entire video. You aren't the only busy person with a job and kids, dude. You should have spent the time it took to record this video getting a replacement for your obviously faulty Mac.
You know those software updates also come with security patches too right? So by not updating it makes a machine that's vulnerable. Deciding not to upgrade because of compatibility issues is a crap solution. And I'm entitled to act however I'd like after I've spent over 2k on a machine that doesn't work at advertised. If you don't like my vibe, feel free to never come back. Thanks bye!
Sounds like one of them 1 in 10,000 lemons that tend to happen in electronics. I am typing this on a 16" M3 Max MBP and never have these issues (Obviously not the fees to upgrade those programs, but that isn't Apple's fault those other companies charge you extra to use the same product).
Glad to hear you haven't had problems with yours, I'm not convinced it's just a lemon. The problems I'm having are bigger than that. Thanks for watching.
@@aminorerror so what is it then? 99% of people their M-chip macs...
If it's that bad give it to me.......
Watched unteil 7:00. You have a defective united. U should have stopped there, send it back an get a new one. I have a M1 Macbook, a M2 Pro, Macstudio. None of them have any problems. They also shut down in less than a minute.
With the execption of zoom, which is a f*** piece of sh*** everything works and does not crash. So again, defective unit! have it replaced, and about 80% of your problem are gone.
Nice playing in between.
Oh, and dump icloud use dropbox.
If you watched more you'd see it's more than just a bad device. It def could be a lemon though but there's more to it than that. Thanks for watching and commenting though, I'll def take the tip on Dropbox! I've been using that to backup my USB drive and that's been working great so far.
Mine never crashes....buy better software.
Did you miss the bit where Reason had never crashed in 15 years of using it until now?
Rule of thumb is that ANY computer, OS or APP is only good for about 4-5 years or about exactly what you got.
The audio software companies had to spend a lot of money to updating their software. You never bought an apple silicon compatible piece of software so getting it for free is not realistic. Apple was the only winner not those companies.
nice clickbait :)
Only MAC people will buy a $4500 laptop and then trash talk the $1000 5-years older Windows laptop it replaced. How about you compare to a new $4500 Windows laptop instead.
I dunno. I superseded a 2020 Macbook Air (~$1500) with a 2023 Lenovo Yoga Slim 7 (~$1000 heavily discounted) and the Yoga is worse in almost every single way: battery life, trackpad, keyboard, no thunderbolt. These don't seem like big issues but it adds up to a shitty experience and so I've switched back to the Macbook for mobile use. *If* a Mac works well with the software you need, it is usually difficult to beat.
@@Hundredthldiot Totally agree, since M1, MAC performance has matched or even exceeded Windows laptops. But for the majority of history that has not been the case. Also if you add the need for more ram and storage MACs' prices shoot up way too fast putting them out of reach for most people to even consider as an option, and they become way worse value at that point.
@@why_though yeah, but what I've discovered from shopping for Windows laptops is that even the expensive ones can be crappy. If you can get by with 24GB ram, 500GB SSD and only one external display, an M2 MacBook Air is the best hardware under $2K in my opinion.
Guy goes from intel to apple silicon and is surprised some apps don’t work? Sorry, is this a joke?
They're all there and they do WORK, just not well. Is this comment a joke?
Need more camera angles and B role 🫡. You look like a robot on my 4k Tv. I think you’re reading word for word a script, I shouldn’t know that.