Great memories of performing this in the West of England Area contest back in the day with Sun Life Stanshawe band, great trombone part as I recall. Great piece !
Brilliant test piece, I mind when I played rep cornet with lochgelly brass band way back in the 1980s this was one of the test pieces for the mine workers championships at blackpool brings me back such happy memories and also connotations both by Edward Gregson I love brass music , been away from it since 1990 s but I still listen to blackdyke,grimethorpe ect I still get emotional when I hear plantagenents and connotations as I was just a young boy when i was in the brass movement, I still love it
Oh Lordy, how many memories this brings back! I first encountered Plantagenets aged 14 - about 35 years ago - and feeling my way down to Eb Bass from Tenor Horn. It was an unofficial "audition" to what was then a 2nd section band. I was the ONLY bass player there, the others were on holiday/working late/ill. After warm-up hymns I thought: 'Oh, not too bad' then came "Right let's turn to the test piece...". Cutting to the end of this memory, some audacious use of 4th valve to fill in for BB parts (especially at the opening) seemed to secure my place in the band. "Well done lad!" said the conductor, and I thought he was just being friendly.... We went on to gain 2nd prize that year. Wish I was back there now!!!!
Nice story! About the same age. Also precious memories that didn't fade out (not in the slightest way). Heard this brass-band at the National Championships in 1983. Thought it was the most beautiful brass-sound of a brass-band in total I had heard. Hearing this sound again, 34 years later, still think it is a very nice sound! Thanks for putting it up here.
I was "Borrowed" from Frederick Gent Comp to play single Bb Bass for Shirland playing this piece. You didn't see many single Bb or Eb bass players but I was way to small to pick up a BBb in 1981 or 1982. It was my first experience of Brass Banding outside school.
Played this great Test Piece for number of years back in very early Eighties with Boldon Colliery Brass Band on Bass Trombone, some of the best memories of my Life. Mr Gregson also a Northeast Man himself, amazing composer, thanks for the music and memories.
Another piece I loved to play in my playing days. I played solo euphonium as did my dear dad and granddad. My late brother Terry played baritone. The years go by too quickly, but thanks to you at forgotten brass I can live those times again, if only for a short while. Thanks forgotten brass.
great Marten, was dit niet op de NBK o.l.v. Dirk Annema. Samen met Blackfrairs van Eric Cundell winnaars in the Dutch cham.section 1983# with a real hattrick in 84 en 85 cond. Jan de Haan
@@guidovanhaalen4432 leuk die reactie van je. Deze opname van The Plantagenets is gemaakt tijdens de EBK in 1984, in de Usher Hall in Edinburg in Schotland. Het was ons keuzewerk. De dirigent was Jan de Haan, die na afwezigheid van een jaar wegens een burn-out (dat heette toen nog overspannen) weer voor de band stond.
@@martenpostma8579 ik zie het nu ook ja. jullie hadden de pech als eerste de set piece te moeten doen toen Refrains and Cadenzas (jullie haalden wel een heel behoorlijk aantal punten 106!) keuze werk ging toen wel heel goed met 75 zelfs plek 4. Dat Henk van Lijnschooten en Paul Huber in de jury zaten hielp ook niet dus ;-) maar toch met 181 1 punt boven de Waldsang! ☺
Absolutely brilliant piece and so well played and recorded. My young band will be playing it in March too, it's going to be a hell of a challenge but we'll enjoy it!
Hello from Towcester Studio Band in 2nd section! I guess I'll see a lot of you guys there on Sunday! Good luck! (God knows I'll need it! Playing the cornet solo :S)
Still one of the best BB pieces written. Appreciate the recording engineer! Good depth in the benches. Sometimes a bit orchestral compared to the ol' days but I don't want to be that guy saying it. It was a pleasure to spend time with Edward at the most recent NABBA where we joked about the new 'commas' inserted in Connotations wondering which recording was circulating that started all that.
hi,love gregson,so many challenging pieces,1982 played it in townsville,cbhs lewisham,playing b grade own choice,a school band mind you,in sydney australia,won b grade relegated to A grade then our wonderful conductor sacked us all because we wanted to play in an a grade band,shame on u bruce hicks,was all about u in the end!!!!!!!!!!
Looking forward to hearing the two polar ends of the section...it'll either be brilliant with everyone hitting everything or it'll just be a mess...very good piece though, and a good test for 2nd section! Freckleton Band
This was one of the first pieces to come out of the folder when I joined a Championship Section band in the late 80s, having previously played principal in a village band. The 3rd cornet part terrified me!
Scottish 2nd Section - 2nd Place - Time for the Nationals - Hope to god we don't play it again for a good 10 years !! Although the Tuba Fugue was good fun even at a top F# !!
10:14 and 10:54..both the cornet and horn bit is bang on the beat whereas the score says tha its off beat, therefore this is played wrong on this recording...
well let's c the stats here: 219 out of 219 for thumbs up: so that's a "score" of 95,43 or in UK terms 191 (aka very good) ! ♫♪ now stick that in ur pocket SOLI BRASS ! ♫♪
Great memories of performing this in the West of England Area contest back in the day with Sun Life Stanshawe band, great trombone part as I recall. Great piece !
Brilliant test piece, I mind when I played rep cornet with lochgelly brass band way back in the 1980s this was one of the test pieces for the mine workers championships at blackpool brings me back such happy memories and also connotations both by Edward Gregson I love brass music , been away from it since 1990 s but I still listen to blackdyke,grimethorpe ect I still get emotional when I hear plantagenents and connotations as I was just a young boy when i was in the brass movement, I still love it
Oh Lordy, how many memories this brings back! I first encountered Plantagenets aged 14 - about 35 years ago - and feeling my way down to Eb Bass from Tenor Horn. It was an unofficial "audition" to what was then a 2nd section band. I was the ONLY bass player there, the others were on holiday/working late/ill. After warm-up hymns I thought: 'Oh, not too bad' then came "Right let's turn to the test piece...". Cutting to the end of this memory, some audacious use of 4th valve to fill in for BB parts (especially at the opening) seemed to secure my place in the band. "Well done lad!" said the conductor, and I thought he was just being friendly.... We went on to gain 2nd prize that year. Wish I was back there now!!!!
Nice story! About the same age. Also precious memories that didn't fade out (not in the slightest way). Heard this brass-band at the National Championships in 1983. Thought it was the most beautiful brass-sound of a brass-band in total I had heard. Hearing this sound again, 34 years later, still think it is a very nice sound! Thanks for putting it up here.
I was "Borrowed" from Frederick Gent Comp to play single Bb Bass for Shirland playing this piece. You didn't see many single Bb or Eb bass players but I was way to small to pick up a BBb in 1981 or 1982. It was my first experience of Brass Banding outside school.
Played this great Test Piece for number of years back in very early Eighties with Boldon Colliery Brass Band on Bass Trombone, some of the best memories of my Life. Mr Gregson also a Northeast Man himself, amazing composer, thanks for the music and memories.
Another piece I loved to play in my playing days. I played solo euphonium as did my dear dad and granddad. My late brother Terry played baritone. The years go by too quickly, but thanks to you at forgotten brass I can live those times again, if only for a short while. Thanks forgotten brass.
Vaughan Williams and his 7th Symphony is never very far away! Yet beautiful music indeed
One of my favourite test pieces to both play and listen to
Played this in 1981 as 1st Trombone. Christian Brothers Brass Band. Australian National Brass Band Champions because of this piece.
Great great music. I remember the times when I used to sing in a choir. The concerts we gave for ourselves were always the best. Thanks for sharing!
Absolutely gorgeous piece by Gregson.
just found out my band are playing this at next years national brass band championships, cant wait, love this!!
The solo horn player here, well, it is me!
Well done and very well played by the whole band. It's a fantastic piece!
Nice work.
Love Brass!
great Marten, was dit niet op de NBK o.l.v. Dirk Annema. Samen met Blackfrairs van Eric Cundell winnaars in the Dutch cham.section 1983# with a real hattrick in 84 en 85 cond. Jan de Haan
@@guidovanhaalen4432 leuk die reactie van je. Deze opname van The Plantagenets is gemaakt tijdens de EBK in 1984, in de Usher Hall in Edinburg in Schotland. Het was ons keuzewerk. De dirigent was Jan de Haan, die na afwezigheid van een jaar wegens een burn-out (dat heette toen nog overspannen) weer voor de band stond.
@@martenpostma8579 ik zie het nu ook ja. jullie hadden de pech als eerste de set piece te moeten doen toen Refrains and Cadenzas (jullie haalden wel een heel behoorlijk aantal punten 106!) keuze werk ging toen wel heel goed met 75 zelfs plek 4. Dat Henk van Lijnschooten en Paul Huber in de jury zaten hielp ook niet dus ;-) maar toch met 181 1 punt boven de Waldsang! ☺
Cracking piece looking forward to playing front row with this!!! :D Douglas Town Band
Absolutely brilliant piece and so well played and recorded. My young band will be playing it in March too, it's going to be a hell of a challenge but we'll enjoy it!
Hello from Towcester Studio Band in 2nd section! I guess I'll see a lot of you guys there on Sunday! Good luck! (God knows I'll need it! Playing the cornet solo :S)
Plantagenets was the first major piece in my first experience playing in a brass band (BBb Bass). Great memories, and great music.
Still one of the best BB pieces written. Appreciate the recording engineer! Good depth in the benches. Sometimes a bit orchestral compared to the ol' days but I don't want to be that guy saying it. It was a pleasure to spend time with Edward at the most recent NABBA where we joked about the new 'commas' inserted in Connotations wondering which recording was circulating that started all that.
Love this piece - absolutely fantastic
Just started playing this at Bakewell brass band, not used to 2nd cornet having so much to do lol
hi,love gregson,so many challenging pieces,1982 played it in townsville,cbhs lewisham,playing b grade own choice,a school band mind you,in sydney australia,won b grade relegated to A grade then our wonderful conductor sacked us all because we wanted to play in an a grade band,shame on u bruce hicks,was all about u in the end!!!!!!!!!!
You mean "promoted", not relegated.
I just performed this piece a few days ago! We performed it in the UNT Brass Band.
Great Music
Well thats goin to be a great piece to play for the areas !
Played this about 10 years ago on trombone.
Now on 2nd cornet and not nearly so much fun!
I think I remember you playing it ?
Tremendous stuff live at the European way back great show...
Scottish 2nd Section Nationals 2013 - Bathgate Brass Band Bass Section saying hello
You're welcome; wonderful piece of music, isn't it?
Looking forward to hearing the two polar ends of the section...it'll either be brilliant with everyone hitting everything or it'll just be a mess...very good piece though, and a good test for 2nd section! Freckleton Band
Well I best get practicing. Playing this in March too sat on principle. Shaking already like
This was one of the first pieces to come out of the folder when I joined a Championship Section band in the late 80s, having previously played principal in a village band. The 3rd cornet part terrified me!
You're right.
Scottish 2nd Section - 2nd Place - Time for the Nationals - Hope to god we don't play it again for a good 10 years !! Although the Tuba Fugue was good fun even at a top F# !!
Regional finals in the UK using this piece. I'm on timps. Someone's going to die.
10:14 and 10:54..both the cornet and horn bit is bang on the beat whereas the score says tha its off beat, therefore this is played wrong on this recording...
What a shame!
If they'd have a plus ten button, I'd click it!
but on every video of the piece on yotube its the same
well let's c the stats here: 219 out of 219 for thumbs up: so that's a "score" of 95,43 or in UK terms 191 (aka very good) ! ♫♪ now stick that in ur pocket SOLI BRASS ! ♫♪
Aye, a few solo cornet players getting a bit twitchy! What's the worst that can happen?? A few pints after and it'll be ok!!