Explained: Is Farmer's Demand For Guaranteed MSP Justified? | MSP Explained By Udit Misra
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- Опубліковано 12 лют 2024
- Farmers Protest Explained: What is the Minimum Support Price (MSP) for farmers and is the demand for a legal mandate for MSP justified? We explain.
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Giving guaranteed MSP is death kneel for any govt.Just imagine the impact of this on inflation.Its better to rationalise the export policies.
You are brainwashed by Godi Media unfortunately! Read my comment above and clear your mind.
Correct!
If they spend more on growing then price they get for crop in market. Result they can't grow next crop without getting loan on their own. Every 2 years their is bad weather, which destroy their crop. This leads to bad loans , and we public pay this price. Just imagine.
That's what the west wants u r shining way too much........... u need to be controlled....... watch out people deep state work is in progress stay safe
most indian crops contain lot of chemicals and fertilisers,which are mostly rejected by western countries...
@6:41 farmers cannot hold onto the crop because of british era Essential Commodities act. When Modi govt tried to repeal the law under farm reforms same farmers protested. Why protest now before elections suddenly? I will not vote for parties that support such silly socialist era economics. The real farmers are suffering because of mandi monopoly and beaurocratic corruption and inefficiency. Buyers formed cartels and giving unfair prices to farmers. If there was more genuine competition farmer could get good price and sell wherever he wants and whenever as he can store the produce under new farm laws. Also there will be a safety system under contract farming, where they are shielded from price fluctuations due to pre agreement. This will inherently diversify crops as crops in demand will be grown unlike wheat and rice which rot in fci godowns. Some rich farmers that profit from existing system doesn't bother about rest 98% ad long as they can sit and eat while labourers do the hard work.
There are problems in the agriculture and what these rich feudal lords wants are the policies that will exacerbate these problems 10 folds. Not to the Doha Round of WTO allowed MSP for only those crops which are needed for Food security and that too only 10% of production value .
If government agrees to all their demands that will translate 3 Lakhs an year for 60 Crore farmers in terms of pension, loan waiver, free electricity for their house, water, free fertilizer and double MSP and 200 days of MNGRA. That is 180Lakh crores per year which is three times the Indian budget. They want almost 10 Lakh / acre when the output per acre is 1 Lakh- 3 Lakh depending on crop. As a civil society- media, SC, people should stand up for this travesty.
Is Farmer's Demand For Guaranteed MSP Justified?
Ans : No
Trust me, I'm a farmer.
Most of the independent farmers are actually crorepatis I'm from Kerala btw
What is reason that high income group farmers are not taxed and enjoying subsidies?
Why not like rest of middle or high income group group prople they start paying taxes and give more subsidies to poor farmers ? 🤔🤔🤔
Trust me you should give out full details…
Lolz... A rocket farmer.
Now every taxpayer should also do hartal and chakka jam.
Are we fools just blindly paying taxes and getting nothing in return??
While others are getting a hefty amount as subsidy??
What is reason that high income group farmers are not taxed and enjoying subsidies?
Why not like rest of middle or high income group group prople they start paying taxes and give more subsidies to poor farmers ? 🤔🤔🤔
Not justifiable. Anti-market practices always lead to beaurocratic over reach and enormous economic burden on Govt leaving little to no money for development. Also it is not fair on tax payers. Most farmers suffer because of Govt mandi dalaris. Free market will ensure correct prices for farmers and consumers.
Please bring farming under Income Tax slabs
You are brainwashed by Godi Media unfortunately! Read my comment above and clear your mind.
Farmers will do nationwide strike
85 percent are small and marginal farmers without tractors… these are big landlords who are protesting… trust me .. we in Haryana dont have any problems.. already getting MSP on 13 crops
Good explanation and fair answer.I am happy to see this from Indian Express instead of just saying this is happening !!! and so on.
Why don't you quantify how much money is required to give MSP on stapes like rice and wheat,what happens if all states want procurement at MSP
(1) MSP is every farmer’s basic right. It is their base salary if you will. Have you known any other profession that does not guarantee a salary and instead asks you to invest your own money with the hope to get fairly paid should government or corporation or public make up their minds. It’s a shame that people who grow food for the nation including government personnel and corporate executives are not guaranteed basic pay for their labor and upfront investment. Add challenges like climate change impact and soon we see how we are pushing them further into the ditch. It’s human rights violation and financial crime against farmers to not guarantee them MSP.
(2) MSP should guarantee equal procurement by area and total procurement by volume of crop grown. If needed government with or without involvement of corporations, can specify before crop planting what volume is needed. Surplus happens not because India has fed every mouth there is to feed domestic or export; surplus happens when farmers have no place to see their produce at fair price.
(3) I disagree that government or corporations involved in business of food have the right perspective on MSP and procurement. It is their responsibility being in the food business to pay farmers their due. Not doing so is not a business decision but a financial crime.
(4) Without procurement (100 percent if needed); MSP has no meaning other than an attempt to mislead farmer community. Again, government and corporations should state the volume of procurement and that will help farmers know how much to produce.
(5) My understanding is farmers pay upfront the money required to buy seeds, fertilizer etc. It’s hard to imagine how we treat poor farmers and wealthy venture capitalists the same way; that too when food is a commodity known to be a necessity. This has to change. It’s again unethical and is financial crime in my opinion.
(6) Strongly disagree that economic perspective does not support paying farmers salaries/MSP. One, economics is for the people and their financial well being. It has no meaning outside of human and planet welfare. Second, GDP is not equal to economy. It is one element and an overrated one that completely ignores the feeble domestic micro economies and instead sings to tune of “impressive“ trade term GDP. In many ways we are talking like a poor farmer whose domestic economy does not feed his entire family but he managed to sell produce in private sector to known corporations who managed to use power to manipulate prices. Economic strength builds inside out more than the other way round.
(7) While I agree farmers could benefit from having access to warehouses for storage but am not in agreement that sale is when price is right and of course that is where MSP helps everyone besides securing farmers. Sale of food crops should be driven by consumption volumes and to my knowledge can be determined with decent accuracy using the data already available from years of information gathered. The video sounds like we are shifting the hoarding and market manipulation strategy to farmers which currently is corporation tactics. Additionally, it’s going to be a big leap and extra burden for farmers to learn reach out to market and it has a huge potential of creating chaos and smaller pockets of fraud in food selling business. I am in favor of government control and supervision over private sector for the same reason. Baseline is fix the governing laws, invest in implementation. This investment is far less than government’s dealing and partnering with private sector monopoly games.
(8) Given India’s population seeking work, industrial developments that are making human labor obsolete to mechanization- not certain how you plan on absorbing marginalized farmer communities into it? Better idea is what Paani foundation is doing - bring people back to their farmer community and jobs and growing quality food.
Degrowth, necessitated also by climate impact, will actually require less human labor in industries.
(9) Yes, procuring ALL of the produce by government (and some private sector in food business if necessary) at MSP is the ideal way. Government then makes it available to public at again fair prices and profit (unlike what we see with private sectors). As for tax payer money- this will benefit public the most by utilizing their tax money for creating food security for all. Tax laws or actually exemptions for corporations is the biggest hole in the boat that we all call the economy of the nation. Inefficiencies dont have a preference on one out of govt or private sector or public- they exist where they are allowed to exist; many times intentionally.
The most coherent and logical comment I've read so far. Hats off!
want MSP but dont wanna pay TAX ? jokers
My friend they are paying taxes in GST … only direct taxes are not the taxes… to pay income tax also for millions of people they have to earn above a certain limit and crores of people who do small businesses make more than that but don’t pay direct taxes because they can fool the system adequately… I think you pay direct tax so you are more perturbed
Do farmer pay agriculture tax. Ans There is no tax on agriculture income.@@superjrao7161
Jai Jawan Jai Kisan .
MSP can be given only to farmers less than 3 acres
Do you think govt need to find the solution based on ownership of land. For example if govt make law stating providing assurance of MSP based on swaminathan recommendations whomever has the certain acres of land? So that it will directly direct the farmers who really need benefit. Not the big farmers who has enough resources.
Very well explained,
Is it possible for govt to assure msp procurement, only for small farmers ie below certain lane holding,as the benefits of msp is enjoyed by large ones only.
Most of labourers, rickshaw pullers and house helps, working around us, are farmers who left farming because, farming is not viable anymore. The land/per farmer has been reduced because of the increasing population over the generations. There are no agricultural reforms happening, no ways of irrigation and water levels have dropped drastically. I come from a village background where my family is still doing farming in Uttarakhand. The farmers who are supposed to feed the whole country, are now forced to survive on free supplies given by the government. Please leaves your studio for few days and live in villages, if you are really interested in knowing their problems. Hats off the model of development.
they have to urbanise... every country has urbanised for development... no country does development by living in villages... it's a stupid experiment.
Seems like everyone is expert in comment section 😊....from both sides...
Today govt selling rice at 30, bharat rice rs. Is it not sustainable model. If not why govt trying it. We would like the farmers to do better and throughout India.
TAX Rich farmers and GIVE MSP. CASE CLOSED.
If one wants to keep India as a country where majority of labour goes into agriculture then a guaranteed MSP is okay. But that won't make India a Developed Country
I think govt should sugegst alternatives like initiatives to modernising agricultre, crop rotation. Punjab has a 50 percent debt to gdp ratio, there is ground water crisis, and soil fertility declining, that should be the focus instead of these people pleasing stop gaps, most of their demands are ridiculous, stop all free trade and get out of WTO? Who are these people?
How about this? Since they want to force the taxpayers to buy their produce at a fixed price, they should relinquish every right to determine what goes on those farms to the govt. The yields that they are about to produce, who they can sell to, everything. Lets see how they like it.
The problem is that the farms are so small, they're nearly subsistence farms. Either the farms become large corporate entities, which I don't see the socialist farmers in these regions accepting, or they band together. The best solution is to divide the regions up and have the farmers in each region vote on whether they want to create a marketing co-op. The co-op is large enough that they can take out loans to build grain elevators to store the grains when the price is low. Also, each farmer's co-op will decide if they want to have a MSP. This insurance will come from the co-op and ultimately be paid by the farmers when prices are high. This will allow the government to allow the government to seem to be listening to the farmers, but also giving them their own autonomy. It will also not cost the government money. Yes, it is socialism, but limited socialism.
These are chunavi kiasn, BJP has highest acceptance in India.
Giving MSP throughout India just as in Punjab will be a death wish to the entire indian economy. 1/2 of India is in agriculture they all can't get fixed incomes.
The government cannot give everyone money.
You are brainwashed by Godi Media unfortunately! Read my comment above and clear your mind.
You are brainwashed by Godi Media unfortunately! Read my comment above and clear your mind.
@@rajeshsolankiusa
Your argument "Give me money or you are Godi media"
@@rajeshsolankiusa do you really want to give 200 rs for 1 kg atta which we are now recieving at 27 rs . Moreover some of them even wants 10k pensions
What were 3 farm laws doing Mr Indian express?
TAX, TAX, & ONLY INCOME TAX ON RICH FARMERS CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
Rich Farmers should be Taxed ,that will help poor Farmers
You are brainwashed by Godi Media unfortunately! Read my comment above and clear your mind.
10000 rupees in Pension is the most ridiculous demand
The issue is when Indians needed food you looked at farmers… only when farmers made the country self sufficient & enabled to develop other sectors… now you ditch the farmers… today India was made by freedom fighters and initial leadership… now you say that you did nothing and you actually were corrupt and ditched this country.. the same is with Army … Today bill for paying Army is a pain for the country that’s why Agniveer has been implemented… if you forget basics you are bound to be a client state again… learn from past history… Farmers if they give up agriculture… service industry cannot feed 1400 million people… the government is winning votes it is giving 800 million people rice or wheat… that means they are just addressing basic food issues
Agricultural education itself poor in india as agricultural background country we are losing in it people study every other un related studies then un relatively doing farming
This question is similar to- keeping the criminals in jail will stop the crimes? Central government is biggest looter of farmers sweat, followed by Dalari's and syndicate raj. Why the hell they should stop exports of onions and rice... then give full compensation for farmers for every loss or buy from them at international market price. They are selling onions ₹2 -5 / kilo at mandi's and production cost is ₹10-12. Can you force Mahindra 700 or Maruti breeza for 2 lakhs or petrol for ₹50??? Then why farmers...?
Msp can be given only when farmars should produce grains which is recommended by govt for a particular area .other wise some grains will be grown tremendously no market .
Every grain should have same profit margin . if one grain has good margin another one has law then every body go for higher margin grain
You really think that a farmer can change crops like you change your thoughts???
@@dipucp9685actually they need to in order to maintain soil fertility
Farmers are suffering only because of Middle men and APMCs this despite FCI is procuring at MSP. Most APMCs are under State govts. Govt tried to free them from clutches of Middlemen and link them with Market. Byt the farmers organisation and opposition fooled all of them using Adani Ambani jibes. Govt did not made it compulsory for them to sell only to corporates they juat gave option so that farmers can sell to APMC or outside to corporate. Not just corporate any medium size mill or grains business could tie up with farmers. So that farmers will have steady flow of income and assured prices. Politics spoiled the 3 laws which would have helped the farmers. They made govt repeal even without seeing how the implementation will happen in real time. The pressure was from handful of middleman who funded the protests. In this farmers protests people are being carried awaya by sympathy and emotions without reasoning and facts on ground. Social media propaganda played a big rope in this.
It's not about buying whole lot produce in Punjab this year orange farmers r getting low price so they ask help from government so govt decided that they gonna buy oranges for daily meal in schools so now only buying 5% of oranges prices of organes goes up so this year farmers in mp mahrashter up getting good price of wheat in private sector but bjp gov decided they lower the import tax on wheat and wheat of India's farmer now selling at low price
No, it is not justified. If it is not viable for them they should choose another profession.
Gaurentee MSP for only 1 or 2 acre per person as most farmers own less than 5 acres. They should produce there land documents to avail that benifit. This should help many marginalized farmers.
Won't it lead to further fragmentation of farmland ? 😅
If you give for 2 crops, all farmers will produce that 2 crops only. Then there will will be no diversity in food. That's what is happening now because of green revolution Punjab and haryana is still stuck in wheat and paddy, because govt assured MSP FOR THESE crops in 1960
Swaminathan ji will be awarded Bharatratna... But his recommendations(MSP)or brainchild will be thrown in to Dustbin.. Award for what, if you are not accepting his recommendations or ideology or work???
I want income tax waiver.
The presenter tells the future of jobs is in big companies and indirectly asking for a mass migration of people from rural to urban. This then exposes how the poor will then live in holes for homes for a few rupees more. Our cities get bigger and resources scant. The bigger wages, the presenter talks about, where is it been uniformly or even been applied across india in "the so called big companies". It is only cheap labour that's attractive to big companies. In the process of large scale migration, urbanisation increases putting pressure on fragile ecosystems. Here's an idea to solve that - start grabbing non productive land from rural and doing that turn a village into urban center, put a factory on a farm. Only the thing he gets right, that this is a complicated situation. So what has the govt. done for 2 years after the last protest for this complicated situation?
Jai Kisan
What is reason that high income group farmers are not taxed and enjoying subsidies?
Why not like rest of middle or high income group group prople they start paying taxes and give more subsidies to poor farmers ? 🤔🤔🤔.
This is work of kajerwal khalistan congress break india gang
You are brainwashed by Godi Media unfortunately! Read my comment above and clear your mind.
Excellent Journalism
You are brainwashed by Godi Media unfortunately! Read my comment above and clear your mind.
Punjabi Rich Farmers driving 40l car ,Poor going to Canada
You are brainwashed by Godi Media unfortunately! Read my comment above and clear your mind.
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You are brainwashed by Godi Media unfortunately! Read my comment above and clear your mind.
Farming is state subject, if punjab wants to hike the prices, they can do so, please dont ask ask other state taxpayer to pay the burden.
You are brainwashed by Godi Media unfortunately! Read my comment above and clear your mind.
Gyaan matt batohh bhaiyaa... How many crores did the govt gave as subsidies to the corporate....
Corporate did not took free power dear
Less than free electricity and loan waiver to farmers
@@shriharikulkarni2305 ever heard of SEZs?
@@vishvpatel899 loan waiver? 14.56 lakh crores of NPAs were waived off to cronies... But farmer's debts can't be cancelled?
@@harshithsubramaniam5924 u mean SEZ have free power supply is given
As far as my knowledge thier only given some tax exemptions
I myself a famer
I left after investing 15 lakh rupees
Farming in most cases is loss making thing
year farmers in mp mahrashter up getting good price of wheat in private sector but bjp gov decided they lower the import tax on wheat and wheat of India's farmer now selling at low price
If wheat from Outside is still cheap compared to one from here.
Something is wrong here
@@ChandranPrema123 because outside there heavy subsidies given by governments to farmers on cost of production even in some countries governments give incentives to farmers who have land not to grow crops to control price for other farmers
Rich farmers should pay tax
You are brainwashed by Godi Media unfortunately! Read my comment above and clear your mind.
Such stupid arguments, may be the motivation is to distraction amd spread the centers narrative.
Government business is to stay away from doing business
You are brainwashed by Godi Media unfortunately! Read my comment above and clear your mind.
Go to Canada, trudo is giving you MSP
Too much Policy advisors in the comment section 😂😂😂
people are just keeping their views. you want them to shut their mouth forcefully?
This is a khalistani movement
tax rich farmers and landowners