Honestly, that's the same reaction I had too. This movie is how old now? It's depressing that this movie can STILL relate to other Native Americans today...
Right? Sometimes separations don't go well. I am shocked at how much violence has taken place in my own family. My aunt ended up jumping from her husband's truck. She died in Gallup. My friend ended up with a blackeye several times during Covid. My cousin was murdered in ABQ, shot to death this year. And my own sister was murdered and found in a ditch 30 miles from our home. So much lateral violence that needs to stop.
I was 7 years old when my father went heavy on alcohol and drugs he abused me, my sister, uncle ( 16 years old ) and my mother. He was running from the cops and my mother’s family and his family until the cops found him in my grandma's house trying to get her car ready he got 2+ years in jail.
This scene portrays the heartbreaking reality that all natives face.. my uncles drink... my dad used to.. my mother moved us off the Reservation for a better life away from the trauma.. away from the pain. I seen how it affects us. The pain of our history still affects us a thousand years later..
To those who think it’s in Native American’s blood to abuse alcohol, the reason why they are like that is because of their ancestors going through the boarding schools that the Americans forced them into, they were traumatized and depressed after finishing school, they had no other escape than alcohol and drugs.
My grandfather had no way to cope with his trauma or his sensitivity. He had Aspergers and was never well understood by anyone. He died from kidney failure, but years before he passed. He finally stopped drinking. My parents never drank, and I've never drank either. We're breaking the cycle of trauma
I have 3 brothers that are alcoholics, and I, absolutely, hate the taste of alcohol. It doesn't matter if it's wine, liquor or beer. All if it grosses me out.
I think it depends on the person … I grew up seeing drunk men hit women in a abusive household but as I grew older when I drink I’m really chill and enjoy my self and don’t act like that
I recovered as an alcoholic before my daughter was born. I thank god everyday I quit. Her mother and I are not together but I would never leave that child. If I was still drinking I would be gone and dead by now. Bless anyone who has been through this situation.
I can imagine Victor's mom picking up the pieces afterward. She still loved Arnold, and Arnold still loved her, but alcohol abuse is ultimately what led to the arson fire, which Arnold never went to jail for, and so on.
yeah I told an alcoholic once that I'd never marry him...I should have shown him this scene. I think it's really good to show to alcoholics to help them understand the pain they're causing. But don't bother showing it to psychopaths. I showed it to two psychopaths and they could care less. At least I had the pleasure of seeing Victor's character arc. :)
Heroin is a bit sneakier IMO. Your people help create the lie that lets ETOH run it’s course from party to grave. If you are with Heroin you have created the lie from within yourself yourself….. If alcohol is a deadly stunt, Heroin is a spiritual suicide attempt. Be weary, If the fruits of Somniferum is a Family Tradition, you may already in fact be dead.
I had a moment like this but its good to remember dark times in life. Holds a dear place in my heart, the silent dramatic moments of fear and loniliness
My dad left too. But I think the worst part was that he didn't leave physically, he left mentally. He buried his sorrow in drinking after losing my mother. After 6 years, it took his life. To see him drink everyday and not be a father to me and my baby brother was the worst feeling in the world. My life would've been much different. But instead I'm breaking the cycle. This "disease" in Indian country needs to stop. We can end drugs and alcohol by realizing there's light at the end of the tunnel and enjoying life as we see to come. We are cursed by living in the past instead of focusing on the future.
Saw my Father arrested in front of me, just 10 years old I were. And he was then sentenced 18 years in prison for child molestation and rape. He'll be out in 11 months...
I was raised on wind River indian reservation and this scene is one I am all to familiar with 😥 there is A LOT of abuse with in some tribes and you cannot tell me I'm wrong I've physically lived it
This reminds me of when I was his age, my mom would get mad at my dad he couldn’t take it anymore he leaves… She would hit him in front of me..now I’m older I don’t see it anymore.
When I was young around the age of 6 I hated my parents because of how much they would drink but then I left to live with my grandma and soon after in 5 grade I learned about residential schools and how much pain and suffering they caused my people and after it took a while to stop hate I felt towards my parents but then I made friends that went through nearly the same as I went through then I stopped hating my parents and now I’m proud to be native ok you read this so this was basically my younghood
Indians also share the same lifestyles as allot of other minorities in lower class communities. My heart hurts for the helpless who are stuck. Send prayers for any women and children stuck in a similar situation.
Ain't this the truth. I grew up on the rez, Put up with this when I was a kid. All my parents did was drink and throw party's. The crazy part is it's just like this scene, my dad ended up leaving too. I feel bad for the native kids who still go through this. Will never let my future kids go through this, no children should have to go through this. Especially our Native children who were suppose to be teaching them to be different and practice their culture.
Sad how much this actually happens on the reservations I've seen it so much and I'm like 15
Honestly, that's the same reaction I had too. This movie is how old now? It's depressing that this movie can STILL relate to other Native Americans today...
Right? Sometimes separations don't go well. I am shocked at how much violence has taken place in my own family. My aunt ended up jumping from her husband's truck. She died in Gallup. My friend ended up with a blackeye several times during Covid. My cousin was murdered in ABQ, shot to death this year. And my own sister was murdered and found in a ditch 30 miles from our home. So much lateral violence that needs to stop.
@@okaminess yeah, my moms cousins are always getting hit by drunk drivers, one of them recently died near kayenta
Sucks to be you I guess
I was 7 years old when my father went heavy on alcohol and drugs he abused me, my sister, uncle ( 16 years old ) and my mother. He was running from the cops and my mother’s family and his family until the cops found him in my grandma's house trying to get her car ready he got 2+ years in jail.
This scene portrays the heartbreaking reality that all natives face.. my uncles drink... my dad used to.. my mother moved us off the Reservation for a better life away from the trauma.. away from the pain. I seen how it affects us. The pain of our history still affects us a thousand years later..
It’s more about alcoholism. That affects all races
To those who think it’s in Native American’s blood to abuse alcohol, the reason why they are like that is because of their ancestors going through the boarding schools that the Americans forced them into, they were traumatized and depressed after finishing school, they had no other escape than alcohol and drugs.
Their parents disowned them after they finished going through boarding school, because they lost their voice and ways.
My grandfather had no way to cope with his trauma or his sensitivity.
He had Aspergers and was never well understood by anyone.
He died from kidney failure, but years before he passed. He finally stopped drinking.
My parents never drank, and I've never drank either. We're breaking the cycle of trauma
I'm native American and made it out without drugs and alcohol wym?
@@SocietyZero You have been blessed wirh the strong character and/or faith to overcome.
I am glad you put this comment out to explain to the world of the pain and its detrimental result. Hopefully, it will never happen again!
This is why I don't drink I grew up with both parent's alcoholic and I don't want to see my kids go through what I went through love my kids
I have 3 brothers that are alcoholics, and I, absolutely, hate the taste of alcohol. It doesn't matter if it's wine, liquor or beer. All if it grosses me out.
I think it depends on the person … I grew up seeing drunk men hit women in a abusive household but as I grew older when I drink I’m really chill and enjoy my self and don’t act like that
I recovered as an alcoholic before my daughter was born. I thank god everyday I quit. Her mother and I are not together but I would never leave that child. If I was still drinking I would be gone and dead by now. Bless anyone who has been through this situation.
"Don't leave dad" @1:11 really punches me in the heart
Damn it that brought tears to my eyes!
Tollinchi Family I Know Right
She popped right back up. That is strength.
I can imagine Victor's mom picking up the pieces afterward. She still loved Arnold, and Arnold still loved her, but alcohol abuse is ultimately what led to the arson fire, which Arnold never went to jail for, and so on.
Arnold’s remorse made his drinking worse
reminds me of when my dad left
Me too. 😢
Lmao😂😂😂
Same but more with my mom when she come and go
Takes me back to when I was a kid. This scene cuts deep.
I'll never ever marry an alcoholic. never put my kids through that
Exactly what I was thinking about.
yeah I told an alcoholic once that I'd never marry him...I should have shown him this scene. I think it's really good to show to alcoholics to help them understand the pain they're causing. But don't bother showing it to psychopaths. I showed it to two psychopaths and they could care less. At least I had the pleasure of seeing Victor's character arc. :)
@21st century superstar Really? My mother knows better.
@21st century superstar yikes. :(
@21st century superstar Double yikes. 😵
The feels when he said don't go dad 😭😭
Dats wut us native americans go thru
No joke.
Keva White fr in everyday life
Not just you. Me as a mexican, my afther was also an alcoholic. We lost our house because lf his addiction. We were basically homeless.
For real
Then what do u say we drop our phones and get to it then
Alcohol is worse than heroin.
Yep!
Your mom is worse than heroin.
Heroin is a bit sneakier IMO. Your people help create the lie that lets ETOH run it’s course from party to grave. If you are with Heroin you have created the lie from within yourself yourself….. If alcohol is a deadly stunt, Heroin is a spiritual suicide attempt. Be weary, If the fruits of Somniferum is a Family Tradition, you may already in fact be dead.
I am a proud native after watching this movie
Been there, broke the chain and working with Government but can never escape the past!!
Damm Why Do Mexicans And Natives Have So Much In Common Man
We're the same, just different struggles.
I know this is from a year ago but we're the same people just a different region, not too far apart
I had a moment like this but its good to remember dark times in life. Holds a dear place in my heart, the silent dramatic moments of fear and loniliness
My dad left too. But I think the worst part was that he didn't leave physically, he left mentally. He buried his sorrow in drinking after losing my mother. After 6 years, it took his life. To see him drink everyday and not be a father to me and my baby brother was the worst feeling in the world. My life would've been much different. But instead I'm breaking the cycle. This "disease" in Indian country needs to stop. We can end drugs and alcohol by realizing there's light at the end of the tunnel and enjoying life as we see to come. We are cursed by living in the past instead of focusing on the future.
I've been sober from alcohol for 13 year's
Saw my Father arrested in front of me, just 10 years old I were.
And he was then sentenced 18 years in prison for child molestation and rape.
He'll be out in 11 months...
Never Drank Any Alcoholic Drinks It's Awful Seeing Victors Dad Leaving
1:00 I felt her *rage* in this scene 😭🎬👏🏾
"Hit me again come on!"
Calm down auntie.
sad my dad left me when I was 5 years old.
I know how this feels my Dad left when I was only 6 years old
"hit me again! COME ON!" How many of us heard this from our woman?
I was raised on wind River indian reservation and this scene is one I am all to familiar with 😥 there is A LOT of abuse with in some tribes and you cannot tell me I'm wrong I've physically lived it
This reminds me of when I was his age, my mom would get mad at my dad he couldn’t take it anymore he leaves…
She would hit him in front of me..now I’m older I don’t see it anymore.
When I was young around the age of 6 I hated my parents because of how much they would drink but then I left to live with my grandma and soon after in 5 grade I learned about residential schools and how much pain and suffering they caused my people and after it took a while to stop hate I felt towards my parents but then I made friends that went through nearly the same as I went through then I stopped hating my parents and now I’m proud to be native ok you read this so this was basically my younghood
So sad
saw this movie 6 times
Thats Too Sad
Sad when things get complicated. With your parents
loves the bottle more than his own son.
He was still drinking cus he killed people. Noticeably stopped once he left the place where they died.
Victor looks some much like my son long hair and all
are you native ??
A real powerful scene that got to me
Indians also share the same lifestyles as allot of other minorities in lower class communities. My heart hurts for the helpless who are stuck. Send prayers for any women and children stuck in a similar situation.
Kids love their parents no mater what
Damon onion ninjas making me cry
Ain't this the truth. I grew up on the rez, Put up with this when I was a kid. All my parents did was drink and throw party's. The crazy part is it's just like this scene, my dad ended up leaving too. I feel bad for the native kids who still go through this. Will never let my future kids go through this, no children should have to go through this. Especially our Native children who were suppose to be teaching them to be different and practice their culture.
My son got dis movie with autograghs on cover got tookn frm..my hse...😢😢
I can relate to this so much.
Made me kinda sad lol
How is that funny
0:36 to 0:51 reminds me of my childhood when my dad use to do that to my mom
gary farmer is from my rez 😎
Let’s not forget, the Irish have their problems with the bottle.
My life is if my dad didn't leave. A drunk who who stuck it out.
It's not safe,tighten up kid,don't let them get into your skin.
That guy just hit his wife right in front of a camera. Things were different in the 90s.
Mooom😢
Nice.
Pretty damn successful
Threw money in trash can after robbed bank
😂😂😂
Omg I remember watching this movie when I was really young