Retrofitted Relic | Vânătorul de Care R35

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  • Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
  • In the years leading up to the outbreak of the Second World War, Romania sought to bolster its armored forces by acquiring R35 tanks from France. Although well-armored, these tanks suffered from sluggish speed and inadequate armament. Nonetheless, for the interwar period, their design was deemed satisfactory. However, in 1941, when these vehicles were used against the Soviet Union, their deficiencies became glaringly apparent. With nothing else available, the Romanian Army tried to improve their performance by replacing the original 37mm (1,45 in) gun with captured Soviet 45 mm (1,77 in) guns instead. This modification led to the creation of a small series of thirty tank destroyers known as the Vanatorul de Care R35.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 58

  • @T_PLAYER
    @T_PLAYER 9 днів тому +56

    i am one of the lucky ones who saw this things turret personally. its a war memorial now, for the memory of the battle near hron (river in slovakia) in 1945, and for the victims of those wars, of rows of red army and romanian soldiers

  • @AkeN996
    @AkeN996 9 днів тому +25

    Thanks for talking about lesser-known nations’ WW2 equipment 💯

  • @markaxworthy2508
    @markaxworthy2508 9 днів тому +24

    The Germans, who had much greater industrial resources, only managed to get a 47mm SP gun onto the R35 chassis. In doing so, they also made the vehicle much higher, lost the 360 degree turret rotation and the thicker armour of the turret. It looks as though 45mm/47mm guns were all that could be fitted and the Romanian solution seems to have had these three advantages over the German solution.

    • @adrianzanoli
      @adrianzanoli 9 днів тому +9

      the 4.7cm PaK 38(t) was a more powerfull gun with higher muzzle velocity and thus more recoil. it was capable of piercing 87mm vs 67mm of the 4.5cm M1937 K-20

    • @300guy
      @300guy 9 днів тому +3

      Well, Germany had the convenience of choice and an abundance of tank types and models to choose from which means there really wasn't any impetus to try to develop the R35 any further.

    • @mikepette4422
      @mikepette4422 9 днів тому +4

      they were very small vehicles and a 47 mm is asking a lot from the chassis

  • @billlong9606
    @billlong9606 9 днів тому +14

    a "Tankette" hunter surely? 😉

  • @GreatHunters2
    @GreatHunters2 9 днів тому +15

    Thx I'm from Romania

  • @funkyfoodster
    @funkyfoodster 9 днів тому +7

    When desperation causes you to buy french

  • @mrmarioro7358
    @mrmarioro7358 9 днів тому +11

    Yay Romanian tanks!

  • @sailordude2094
    @sailordude2094 7 днів тому +2

    Great details about Romanian tanks. Thanks a lot! 45mm gun in 1943 is already obsolete, but better then a 37mm!

  • @appendixpower5538
    @appendixpower5538 9 днів тому +16

    Sir, we turned our obsolete tank into a tank destroyer!
    Aha, just like the germans do! What did you fit on there? A ZIS-2? Or even a Mighti 75mm Reşiţa or PAK 40?
    No..a 45mm...

    • @konstantinriumin2657
      @konstantinriumin2657 9 днів тому +7

      We call it "obsolete tank destroyer"! Because it can only destroy obsolete tanks

  • @hyneksmid3293
    @hyneksmid3293 9 днів тому +12

    Do please Spanish Panzerkampfwagen I ‘Breda.

  • @davidgrey4487
    @davidgrey4487 8 днів тому +3

    That last image is very interesting
    Two jag tigers and the R35
    Has anyone ever seen that before???????

  • @mikepette4422
    @mikepette4422 9 днів тому +3

    so basically you need to be point blank and side shot to penetrate a t-34

  • @bennosvab6294
    @bennosvab6294 7 днів тому +1

    Very good pronunciation in Škoda btw. Most people do not know how to say it, but this was really good.

  • @murmaider2
    @murmaider2 9 днів тому +7

    low tier france needs this lol

    • @afanofblacksabbath269
      @afanofblacksabbath269 9 днів тому +1

      There are enough Romanian-modified, even Romanian-designed tanks to make them a separate nation, regardless of whether we're talking about WoT or WT

  • @BobSmith-dk8nw
    @BobSmith-dk8nw 8 днів тому +1

    A major difference between the Axis and the Allies - was that the Allies had American Industry equipping not only their own Army but the Armies of it's Allies too. Thus - the Free French were eventually completely equipped by the Americans who also gave the Russians 400,000 trucks and jeeps.
    On the Axis side - the Germans couldn't fully equip their own forces - much less anyone else's. It's not like they didn't give some equipment to their allies - it's just that there wasn't very much of it.
    Thus, Hungary, Bulgaria, Italy, Finland and Romania pretty much had to make do with domestic or foreign purchased vehicles.
    It wasn't like these units were completely worthless - it's just that one thing the Germans did in 1942 was have the Hungarian, Italian and Romanian Armies holding a significant section of their line around Stalingrad - while their best units were all down in the Caucuses. The Russians broke through these Armies largely destroying them. They not only surrounded Stalingrad but they cut off all the units to the South.
    The Germans were able to get most of their units out of the south but the units in Stalingrad were all lost.
    Combined with the losses in Tunisia a few months later the Axis lost in the vicinity of 500,000 men they could not afford to lose.
    So - the Germans went a good way towards losing the war because they had their best units chasing after Oil - when if they had not invaded the Soviet Union - they could have beaten the British in the Middle East and had all the Oil they wanted.
    Trying to do "everything all at once" was one of Hitlers traits.
    The Germans were winning the war in the first half of 1941 but in the 2nd half they went to war with the Soviet Union and the Americans. After that - they were doomed.
    .

  • @robertscheidbauer5677
    @robertscheidbauer5677 4 дні тому +1

    Well done Romania 🇹🇩 🇹🇩 🇹🇩 🇹🇩

  • @redmilitia117
    @redmilitia117 7 днів тому +1

    You should make a video about the Pzkpfw IV with a ZiS-3

    • @TanksEncyclopediaYT
      @TanksEncyclopediaYT  7 днів тому +2

      Here's an article with the ZiS-5 while you wait
      tanks-encyclopedia.com/t-iv-76/

  • @bwilliams463
    @bwilliams463 9 днів тому +5

    8:56 I've seen that explosion footage somewhere before. Is it an actual WW2 combat recording?

    • @GerardMenvussa
      @GerardMenvussa 9 днів тому +6

      This footage also caught my attention the first time I saw it, it was a R35, but not sure where and when exactly this was filmed.
      I asked about it once and was told the footage came from a documentary called Apocalypse, but I never watched it myself.

    • @flatheadgg2443
      @flatheadgg2443 9 днів тому

      It looks kinda fake because the explosion seems to come from directly underneath the tank with no visible impact. I doubt that a mine would have that much power so combined with the fact that it doesn't seem to move it was probably rigged with explosives for propaganda footage.

    • @Floreal78
      @Floreal78 9 днів тому +5

      It's a scene from a german ww2 propaganda movie made in 1941 called "Stukas", the movie is available on youtube. Go to around 33 minutes into the film and it is a long sequence, the tanks show up several times in the film: ua-cam.com/video/UGLUCdNpu-4/v-deo.html

    • @bwilliams463
      @bwilliams463 9 днів тому +2

      @@Floreal78 Thank you for the information. I've seen another R35 exploding in what must be the same film.

    • @bwilliams463
      @bwilliams463 9 днів тому +1

      @@GerardMenvussa Thank you for your reply. Did you get the notification that another Commenter @Floreal78 identified it and left a link?

  • @JGCR59
    @JGCR59 8 днів тому +1

    Its weird that while Romanian generally uses latin words, the word for war here is neither bellum or guerra but rather lupte which is close to Luptha in Albanian.

  • @FGB1201
    @FGB1201 9 днів тому +2

    could you do one about the portuguese daimlers and or the Panhart ETT, APC based on Panhard EBR, during the "ultramar war" or also knowned was the portuguese vietnam

    • @FGB1201
      @FGB1201 9 днів тому +1

      there are others but this is good for now, for example the own made vehicles of portugal

  • @Ulani101
    @Ulani101 9 днів тому +8

    My own thought is that stripping off the turret, and mounting a decent anti-tank gun would have been so much better.
    Fitting a 45mm in 1944 was pointless, really.

    • @TanksEncyclopediaYT
      @TanksEncyclopediaYT  9 днів тому +7

      So, TACAM R-2 and TACAM T-60?

    • @markaxworthy2508
      @markaxworthy2508 9 днів тому +6

      The Germans, who had much greater industrial resources, only managed to get a 47mm SP gun onto the R35 chassis. They also made the vehicle much higher, lost the 360 degree turret rotation and the thicker armour of the turret. It looks as though 45mm/47mm guns were all that could be fitted and the Romanian solution seems to have had three advantages over the German solution.

    • @petergray2712
      @petergray2712 9 днів тому +1

      ​@@TanksEncyclopediaYT And the Mareșal too, if only those pesky Americans would stop bombing Romania's tank factories.

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 7 днів тому

      All they had

  • @markolysynchuk5264
    @markolysynchuk5264 7 днів тому

    Could you cover the Romania's own and only medium tank R-4 at some point? That would be really interesting to see.

    • @bolbarazvan
      @bolbarazvan 7 днів тому

      It was never named like that. Maybe you want to say T-4?

    • @markolysynchuk5264
      @markolysynchuk5264 7 днів тому

      @@bolbarazvan Nope, it's R-4. It never had an official designation, but it is usually reffered to as the R-4.

  • @sebipatru
    @sebipatru 5 днів тому

    So
    1 Romania ordered 140 tanks from France but only 41 were delivered
    2 Romania never joined other forces in USSR invasion. Germany and Romania invaded USSR in 22.06.1941 and they were joined by other countries.
    3 R35-45 was just a light tank, it was never used as a tank destroyer, like Tacam T60 and Tacam R2.

  • @stuew6
    @stuew6 8 днів тому

    What about British Churchill tanks

  • @maevethefox5912
    @maevethefox5912 9 днів тому +1

    What is the game footage I'm seeing from?

  • @andrewengel3023
    @andrewengel3023 9 днів тому

    8:56 what hit that thing!?

  • @cybernetic_crocodile8462
    @cybernetic_crocodile8462 9 днів тому +5

    I must be honest, this tank was garbage. Then again, Romania and other Eastern Europe countries often had no choice, but to rely on garbage like this. That damn war truly was unwinnable scenario for Eastern Eurpean countries outside of USSR. Well, maybe Poland and Czechoslovakia could have had some small chance to defend, if they had more time to prepare.

  • @velikorataje
    @velikorataje День тому

    😮😮

  • @istvanszatmari8803
    @istvanszatmari8803 2 дні тому

    They didnt even made their own tanks, hungary a smaller country at least tride.

  • @bolbarazvan
    @bolbarazvan 7 днів тому

    Very disapointed of this video. I was expecting more than wikipedia-level knowledge for such a video. 4:15 is an internet myth, that unfortunately you took as good information.

    • @joshuamartinez6683
      @joshuamartinez6683 7 днів тому

      Hey Razvan, you might remember me but we talked a while ago. I wrote the original article the video is based on and that article was published years ago, I believe 2017 when I first started researching and writing about Romanian equipment so I can't exactly say it's up to date and information filled if I were to write such an article nowadays but I do believe the criticisms are a bit unwarranted. At the time I used the most sources I could get my hands on that were available to me.
      As for the part at 4:15, this conversion from what I recall is something that was said to have carried and tried according to Axworthy which I have no reason to doubt the claims given the sources he claims to have used and corroborating his claims with other sources both secondary and primary. The picture was presented as speculation as per the caption. I do not know for certain if this was the exact alleged conversion. However, I could have made it clearer.
      I could have expanded and gone into more detail with part of the article, especially its combat history. If you have any sources you'd like to share or you think I missed something please let me know.

    • @bolbarazvan
      @bolbarazvan 6 днів тому

      @@joshuamartinez6683 Hello Josh, yes of course I remember you. I also know the paragraph from Axworthy`s book, but i have also seen archival documents that talk about the Vanatorul R-35 prototype and there is absolutely no mention of previous efforts to fit a T-26 turret on a R-35 chassis. I think Axworthy has used the same photo as "proof" but without being able to back up the claim with archival documents. Or if he did have a source, that must have been something very obscure, as neither me nor other researchers have seen it until now.

  • @RectalRooter
    @RectalRooter 8 днів тому

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