it seems like if you kill shimura, the next scene when jin is in his abandon house, the game starts you off in a storm and darkness.. if you spare him, you start off and the game is in light and sunshine.. the cutscenes show stark differences..
this makes sense and it’s probably likely the spare ending is cannon or it is for sure idk.. but to me i will always like the kill ending more just because of what it meant to me when i played it originally
this video still getting supported and all the support it has gotten means a lot to me especially because this game impacted me so much and i still adore everything abt it
I honored his wish for death. It seemed like one final act of love before both men walk down paths the other cannot follow. I think it's what Jin would have done. This video showed up in my feed and earned you a new subscriber, btw.
thanks for the sub! and yeah i totally agree killing him although the sadder choice made the most sense and in a weird way was a sentimental moment a last act of honor for Jin before continuing his life as the ghost.
@@drakegirard I think it seems sadder, but Shimura would either take his own life if he failed to take Jin's head or be executed by the shogun for failure. Jin would absolutely know this too. So I think it's sadder if Jin spares Shimura and leaves him to this fate.
Why would you honor his wish. Jin doesn't live by the samurai principles anymore. He lives by way of the Ghost. That is what the whole game was about transforming Jin into something else. By the way sparing him is the canon ending to this game according to the creators. Congratulations you both failed.
@@thepatriot9969 exactly I don't know why people are defending the kill ending lol........sure you can rationalize it to make sense......but if you truly understand the narrative of the game.....the spare ending is the correct choice
There's is no right or wrong choice with this ending, which way too many seem to imply. You pick what feels right for you, not what feels right for the game. Killing him will honor his last wish, but it will also mean Jin will kill the last of his family. And walking away spares Jin from having to kill him, but it might lead to the shogun killing his uncle instead. Nobody knows. Both ending are very bittersweet and sad.
very well said! and yeah agreed either ending leaves the player pretty devastated with how it went but honestly looking back months after I still like the choice i went with.
@@oerwhatno it’s not… spare is the canon… if this was a movie, Jin would definitely pick the spare option. He even admits he has no honor, he is the Ghost. He does not follow samurai customs anymore. That line he says after sparing him, “I have no honor but I will not kill my family” fits him so well
Spare ending is the right choice. (already confirmed canon ) heck the voice/actor who played Jin on his stream of the game he picked the spare ending.....so Jin has spoken lol people can say "there is no right or wrong" however if you understand the narrative of the game you will clearly see there is a better argument for the spare ending by killing Shimura you undermine there last conversation and essentially prove him right For shimirua as a samurai honor trumps even family For Jin as the Ghost Family trumps honor
In the same Narrative Jin gives Ryuzo an Honorable Death, even though he's cemented himself as The Ghost in that point of The Story. There really is no "Canon" Ending since both are Accommodated in the Iki Island Expansion. I Also Prefer the Spare Ending, but that doesn't invalidate the Other Choice. 😞
u did a good video i hasnt played it yet but as of may 16 i will go thrue the story too and i might make different choices and stuff but ima become jin sakai too very soon and me look forward to it! and ya them back flashes was cool in ur video ^_^ and i will prolly cry too when i loose the horse and after that if i do choose to kill him so ur not alone
Im pretty ure sparing him is cannon.. shimura tells jin "the ghost will be hunted for the rest of his days(while crying)", then You get a cutscene of Jin putting on the ghost mask and fully adhering to the legend and saying "I know, i am the ghost of tsushima".. and walking away from shimura and shimura having flashbacks of Jin as a child walking away from him...
@@thepatriot9969 The Uncle is not a ghotst he`s a samurai .. and Jin respect his Uncle read the great story of Myamoto Musashi you will find the same analogy with him and a dear friend
@@stech72 dude we are talking about a game here not about someone else. Jin had become something else entirely. If you chose to spare him Jin says he will not kill his family which I think is a very honorable act. Jin doesn't live by the Samurai principles any longer. Why would he honor his uncles wish when Jin believes in not killing his family. You totally missed the point of the game.
@@thepatriot9969 Jin respect the code againts Kojiro and his six blades He`s respect the code againts Ryuzo The ghost he's not a assasin is not a "ninja" is just a new type of samurai whitout limits in war mode But the most important fact his uncle respect this code strictly Anf if his uncle does not die by Jin hands Shimura will commit sepuku in shame and dishonor and Jin know that If Jin hates his uncle, he will let him live Sorry for my english
I chose Spare because I don't want to lose more of my family, and besides I no longer have the obligation to respect him because I am no longer a samurai but a ghost
i agree dude the kill ending is just so awesome and heartbreaking at the same time… i still like the spare ending but the kill ending definitely is the coolest to me i’m glad i picked it
the samurai were dumb though man.. they just didnt understand.. the mongols understood how to break a samurai army, and samurai are good i think for like open law, they were kind of like police men of that time, good for bandits and thieves, etc.. But for war, they suck.. fighting head long into battle with an enemy willing to stab you in the back, your going to fail.. what i dont understand is, if the mongols showed them absolutely no honor, literally raping the land, why should the shogun show THEM honor.. i mean shyt.. honor is cool and all but shouldnt it be reserved for those who deserve it? I just dont think the samurai tactic is good for war.. they are good for keeping the peace in a non-warring time sure... and the whole bullshit about jin being like a demon and "Not human", i thought was silly.. Well wtf are the samurai wearing? you telling me that demon mask and horns and all that shyt is just for pretending to be human? hell no.. they WANT TO BE PERCIEVED AS INHUMAN DEMONS.. its why they wear that demonic armor.. its suppose to invoke fear in the enemy... Well... wtf.. isnt that what jin was doing? lol samurai are a confusing bunch arent they?
my biggest thing was how they couldn’t obviously see Jin was the only thing that kept them from getting obliterated like how it went in real life… he did so much, sacrificed so much to be given and ending like that by the people he saved. well more just the shogun/samurai as the people appreciate and respect the ghost. either way it just gets me upset how they couldn’t look past his “betrayal” (if you’ll even call it that) merrily by how much he saved their asses.
@@drakegirard yea.. He was too mean to the enemy.. LOL "you kill the enemy too meanly.. were not barbarians Jin.." Shimura in the same breathe.. " we will mount ryuzo and khans heads on my castle walls.." Lol the fuck? While i did really like shimura by the end of the game.. I think he was TOO obsessed with samurai, like he had a boner for samurai lifestyle to the point of blind faith..
@@drakegirard welp heres my thoughts becuz if you choose to kill shimura you obviously get to have one final act of honor but in the process lose your uncle at the same time. and for jin to take his uncles life, his one and only family, the one that mattered to him the most, its something he'll probably never recover from. especially when jin finally acknowledge shimura as a father which in this moment is the only one final moment where jin actually gets to call shimura father and no more. it makes it more impactful when players choose to kill him. as for sparing shimura, yes he gets to live it may seem like happy moments but in the end jin finally shows his uncle that he has lost all honor within him and for his own clan as well. and with him fully embracing, becoming the ghost, his uncle probably like lost all trust and respect for jin, ending their relationship as a whole. jin no longer walks the path of a samurai and with this jin becomes an outlaw and lord shimura is probably forced to hunt down jin for the rest of his days trying to kill him. but yeah these are some reasons why i think both endings are equally bad. becuz no matter wat you choose youre still somehow gonna end up losing ur uncle either way. by letting him live and leaving his side forever, being no longer families with him or honoring his wish for death, being at his side till the end while taking his life in the process. and i guess i shouldn't call them bad endings. i guess they're more like "not happy" endings but ya get wat i mean. yeh
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I was crying all night after this ending
it seems like if you kill shimura, the next scene when jin is in his abandon house, the game starts you off in a storm and darkness..
if you spare him, you start off and the game is in light and sunshine.. the cutscenes show stark differences..
this makes sense and it’s probably likely the spare ending is cannon or it is for sure idk.. but to me i will always like the kill ending more just because of what it meant to me when i played it originally
this video still getting supported and all the support it has gotten means a lot to me especially because this game impacted me so much and i still adore everything abt it
I honored his wish for death. It seemed like one final act of love before both men walk down paths the other cannot follow. I think it's what Jin would have done.
This video showed up in my feed and earned you a new subscriber, btw.
thanks for the sub! and yeah i totally agree killing him although the sadder choice made the most sense and in a weird way was a sentimental moment a last act of honor for Jin before continuing his life as the ghost.
@@drakegirard I think it seems sadder, but Shimura would either take his own life if he failed to take Jin's head or be executed by the shogun for failure. Jin would absolutely know this too. So I think it's sadder if Jin spares Shimura and leaves him to this fate.
Why would you honor his wish. Jin doesn't live by the samurai principles anymore. He lives by way of the Ghost. That is what the whole game was about transforming Jin into something else. By the way sparing him is the canon ending to this game according to the creators. Congratulations you both failed.
@@thepatriot9969 exactly I don't know why people are defending the kill ending lol........sure you can rationalize it to make sense......but if you truly understand the narrative of the game.....the spare ending is the correct choice
@@JIX9ISLER1986 yes, the ones who chose to killed him totally missed the point of the game.
Why aren't you more popular?
Your reaction to the final fight was the same reaction i had. Keep up the good work!
thanks that really means a lot!
There's is no right or wrong choice with this ending, which way too many seem to imply. You pick what feels right for you, not what feels right for the game. Killing him will honor his last wish, but it will also mean Jin will kill the last of his family. And walking away spares Jin from having to kill him, but it might lead to the shogun killing his uncle instead. Nobody knows. Both ending are very bittersweet and sad.
very well said! and yeah agreed either ending leaves the player pretty devastated with how it went but honestly looking back months after I still like the choice i went with.
spare ending is cannon
yes there is bro
@@JIX9ISLER1986 Nah kill is surely canon
@@oerwhatno it’s not… spare is the canon… if this was a movie, Jin would definitely pick the spare option. He even admits he has no honor, he is the Ghost. He does not follow samurai customs anymore. That line he says after sparing him, “I have no honor but I will not kill my family” fits him so well
Man, this game knows how to make you feel like you’ve known someone for a lifetime.
Spare ending is the right choice. (already confirmed canon )
heck the voice/actor who played Jin on his stream of the game he picked the spare ending.....so Jin has spoken lol
people can say "there is no right or wrong" however if you understand the narrative of the game you will clearly see there is a better argument for the spare ending
by killing Shimura you undermine there last conversation and essentially prove him right
For shimirua as a samurai honor trumps even family
For Jin as the Ghost Family trumps honor
@@Gamfluent The Ghost is not bound to his or shimuras horn.....he is bound it family.......that is the point....thus why its the canon ending
In the same Narrative Jin gives Ryuzo an Honorable Death, even though he's cemented himself as The Ghost in that point of The Story. There really is no "Canon" Ending since both are Accommodated in the Iki Island Expansion. I Also Prefer the Spare Ending, but that doesn't invalidate the Other Choice. 😞
@@monmonkey7029 spare ending is the correct choice I stand on that
If a story doesn’t mess with your mind/emotions, it’s not a great story. Ghost of Tsushima does it all and makes you care.
u did a good video i hasnt played it yet but as of may 16 i will go thrue the story too and i might make different choices and stuff but ima become jin sakai too very soon and me look forward to it! and ya them back flashes was cool in ur video ^_^ and i will prolly cry too when i loose the horse and after that if i do choose to kill him so ur not alone
Im pretty ure sparing him is cannon.. shimura tells jin "the ghost will be hunted for the rest of his days(while crying)", then You get a cutscene of Jin putting on the ghost mask and fully adhering to the legend and saying "I know, i am the ghost of tsushima".. and walking away from shimura and shimura having flashbacks of Jin as a child walking away from him...
i just read your 3 comments now and i think lots of your takes are interesting and dope
You play a samuraï ... think , live and die like a saumurai that is the spirit of the game
Then the game should be called "Samurai of Tsushima" correct?
@@thepatriot9969 The Uncle is not a ghotst he`s a samurai .. and Jin respect his Uncle
read the great story of Myamoto Musashi
you will find the same analogy with him and a dear friend
@@stech72 dude we are talking about a game here not about someone else. Jin had become something else entirely. If you chose to spare him Jin says he will not kill his family which I think is a very honorable act. Jin doesn't live by the Samurai principles any longer. Why would he honor his uncles wish when Jin believes in not killing his family. You totally missed the point of the game.
@@thepatriot9969 Jin respect the code againts Kojiro and his six blades
He`s respect the code againts Ryuzo
The ghost he's not a assasin is not a "ninja" is just a new type of samurai whitout limits in war mode
But the most important fact his uncle respect this code strictly
Anf if his uncle does not die by Jin hands Shimura will commit sepuku in shame and dishonor and Jin know that
If Jin hates his uncle, he will let him live
Sorry for my english
@@stech72 miyomato Musashi. The greatest swordsmen ever
This game is so amazing. I'm now grinding Legends, while finishing Iki Island. But I will definitely go for New Game +
agree this game is still my favorite i’ve played. it’s just so good
So this whole time during a duel you can use ghost stance. 😂😂😂. I'm going to go cry now
yea ghost stance saved my life in these boss fights, especially on my lethal playthrough!
I love your channel
I chose Spare because I don't want to lose more of my family, and besides I no longer have the obligation to respect him because I am no longer a samurai but a ghost
The kill ending is SSSSOOO HARD! I was so disappointed In the spare ending.
i agree dude the kill ending is just so awesome and heartbreaking at the same time… i still like the spare ending but the kill ending definitely is the coolest to me i’m glad i picked it
the samurai were dumb though man.. they just didnt understand.. the mongols understood how to break a samurai army, and samurai are good i think for like open law, they were kind of like police men of that time, good for bandits and thieves, etc.. But for war, they suck.. fighting head long into battle with an enemy willing to stab you in the back, your going to fail..
what i dont understand is, if the mongols showed them absolutely no honor, literally raping the land, why should the shogun show THEM honor.. i mean shyt.. honor is cool and all but shouldnt it be reserved for those who deserve it?
I just dont think the samurai tactic is good for war.. they are good for keeping the peace in a non-warring time sure...
and the whole bullshit about jin being like a demon and "Not human", i thought was silly.. Well wtf are the samurai wearing? you telling me that demon mask and horns and all that shyt is just for pretending to be human? hell no.. they WANT TO BE PERCIEVED AS INHUMAN DEMONS.. its why they wear that demonic armor.. its suppose to invoke fear in the enemy... Well... wtf.. isnt that what jin was doing? lol samurai are a confusing bunch arent they?
my biggest thing was how they couldn’t obviously see Jin was the only thing that kept them from getting obliterated like how it went in real life… he did so much, sacrificed so much to be given and ending like that by the people he saved. well more just the shogun/samurai as the people appreciate and respect the ghost. either way it just gets me upset how they couldn’t look past his “betrayal” (if you’ll even call it that) merrily by how much he saved their asses.
@@drakegirard yea.. He was too mean to the enemy..
LOL "you kill the enemy too meanly.. were not barbarians Jin.."
Shimura in the same breathe..
" we will mount ryuzo and khans heads on my castle walls.."
Lol the fuck?
While i did really like shimura by the end of the game.. I think he was TOO obsessed with samurai, like he had a boner for samurai lifestyle to the point of blind faith..
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Damn, you talk too much 🤯🤦🏻♂️
if ya think about it, both endings are pretty bad honestly
how so? i actually kinda like them both but i’d love to hear your thoughts
@@drakegirard welp heres my thoughts
becuz if you choose to kill shimura you obviously get to have one final act of honor but in the process lose your uncle at the same time. and for jin to take his uncles life, his one and only family, the one that mattered to him the most, its something he'll probably never recover from. especially when jin finally acknowledge shimura as a father which in this moment is the only one final moment where jin actually gets to call shimura father and no more. it makes it more impactful when players choose to kill him.
as for sparing shimura, yes he gets to live it may seem like happy moments but in the end jin finally shows his uncle that he has lost all honor within him and for his own clan as well. and with him fully embracing, becoming the ghost, his uncle probably like lost all trust and respect for jin, ending their relationship as a whole. jin no longer walks the path of a samurai and with this jin becomes an outlaw and lord shimura is probably forced to hunt down jin for the rest of his days trying to kill him.
but yeah these are some reasons why i think both endings are equally bad. becuz no matter wat you choose youre still somehow gonna end up losing ur uncle either way. by letting him live and leaving his side forever, being no longer families with him or honoring his wish for death, being at his side till the end while taking his life in the process.
and i guess i shouldn't call them bad endings. i guess they're more like "not happy" endings but ya get wat i mean.
yeh
sorry i didn’t see this till now but yeah i really like your explanation!