In the Far East, they have a lot of cultural intricacies that take a long time to learn. Realistically, his girlfriend is not going to remember every single detailed thing he needs to know. For her, it is all second-nature. She grew up with those customs. He didn't. It's not his fault.
"Don't drink too much. Take a small spoonful of a dish so everyone can have some. Don't insult the cook and don't pour a condiment onto the plate everyone's being served from." Is it just me or do those "Chinese manners" simply seem like basic table manners? I'm not Chinese and I grew up with all those things.
@@devinmooseshe looks so different in this film. I know people get older but I think it was her face. It was a lot rounder and full I don't think she was chubby but there's a difference in karate kid that's why didn't recognise her
On a real Chinese home dinner table, you won't find soy sauce sitting next to the dishes. Soy sauce (vinegar, and other sauces/seasoning/spices) belong to the kitchen, unless you are serving something that needs dipping, like Jiao Zi, Chun Juan, etc.
I think even White Americans who have lived here for some generations or longer would know that putting sauce all over the main dish is rude as you don't know if everybody else wants the sauce on there, because the main dish is for everybody to share. If you pour ketchup all over the main dish of let's say roast beef for a family dinner that could be seen as rude if you didn't even ask everybody either.
This was an excellent film coming from an Asian American male growing up in eighties America. The movie so relates to me. Regardless of gender this was how we grew up.
Four lessons to learn from this video: 1) don't drink so much at another person's house 2) don't take tons of food until everyone has had some 3) don't brag you can do something, 'cause you'll embarrass yourself if you can't do it 4) and last, DON'T PUT condiments on to the serving dish! Put it on your own plate! Fun Fact: In the book the dinner is for Waverly's father's belated birthday, but in the movie it is her mom's b-day dinner. Haha Waverly's mom has the oh my god what the heck face 2:32
The rectal cancer part gets me every time. Seriously I bet his table manners would have been considered indecent in any culture, even American's. I can live with the spontaneous toasting, but taking a large portion of the plate and soy-saucing the mother's best dish? lol that just spells general ignorance to me.
And speaking of bull, Miyagi-sima (Played by the late Noriyuki Morita) once told a story about a naughty bull in Okinawa who escaped from the farmer's pen. This bull would wreck everything, chase down men working, children going to school, women shopping, everyone. One day, big festival everybody happy. "On that day, bad bull became good soup....."
haha naw he actually got a lot of good roles after this. He became the star of Reba and then had a recurring role on Desperate Housewives. His comedy here help start his career!
Because Lindo clocked both of them the second she that smirk on Waverly's face. Waverly MEANT for it to be awkward for Lindo. But, clearly, she's dealing with a master. Lindo turned that right back on her and didn't even have to do anything because Rich was entirely too confident for his own good.
@JHorowitz2mil when you are in someone else's home, be considerate of the homeowner. It doesn't matter what country you are in. Asian and American cultures are very different, where there are things that won't make sense to the other's culture. Keeping an open mind builds understanding. That goes for both sides of the coin (in this instance, Asians and Americans).
As a 10 year old Korean growing up right there in the Bay Area, two things: 1) The man's reaction at 2:28 was forever embedded. 2) Even then, I refused to believe that it was 100% purely a cultural issue, especially re the soy sauce. The guy was either an ass or a dufus, if not both. He had a dish in front of him. Do it on your own portion and don't assume everyone's taste buds are the same. Personally, the rectal cancer line made more sense when I looked at it like this. Mothers ofc upset about the cultural ignorance, but their sense of who is an ass isn't dull. Oh well, didn't they end up together nonetheless?
2:35 - 2:57 The look of disappointment and frustration. You see that exaggerated more in anime, which makes the females more intimidating & sexy all at once.
As far as the characters are concerned, Waverly says she "already prepped him". On WHAT? She seems to have left every single piece of relevant information out! Regarding the actors: Tamlyn Tomita is one gigantic overactor. Both her facial expressions and her narration are way too forceful, all the time. In comparison, everyone else in the scene - including the little girl of the first few seconds - is a master of subtelty.
Hugo Dart IKR? She didn't seem to anticipate that his mannerisms would clash with her family traditions--heck, with general rules of politeness. But then, Waverly never seemed to be particularly bright to me. She's cold, vain and obsessed with her outermost image. Not a lot of depth, there.
"Waverly says she "already prepped him". On WHAT? She seems to have left every single piece of relevant information out!" In the Far East, they have a lot of cultural intricacies that take a long time to learn. Realistically, Waverly is not going to remember every single detailed thing he needs to know. For her, it is all second-nature. She grew up with those customs. He didn't. It's not his fault.
@@perfectsplit5515 I agree for the most part, but I'm not Chinese or of Asian descent, and I've always thought of making a pig of yourself at dinner and adding a condiment to the serving dish was incredibly rude. I don't even salt the food on my plate until I've tasted it first. Rich seemed nice enough, but he was a clueless idiot.
Re: JumbaFan Rich did not know the custom that he was supposed to contradict the host when she criticized her own dish. Westerners are used to being served individual dishes at a group dinner. They are generally not experienced in communal dishes. Didn't you see G.I.Jane? It wasn't considered "rude" when those Navy SEAL recruits pigged out at chow time. My Indonesian cousins and I were guests at a friend's house once. When she offered us all something to drink, I was the only one who accepted. Everyone else else laughed, because I did not know that I was supposed to politely decline the host's offer. When a relative of my Korean college roommate called, he was not there to take the call, so I offered to take a message for him. She would not leave a message. That was because Orientals do not want to impose. There are a gazillion little cultural intricacies that you will not know unless you grow up in the Far East.
@@pedroGomez-pr6un ua-cam.com/video/qGiRtLT0P00/v-deo.html Yeah, she's 3/4 Japanese and 1/4 Filipino because her mother is half Japanese and half Filipino and her father is full Japanese. She was born in Japan and her mother was born in the Philippines and her father was born in the states and was stationed in Japan at the time she was born.
@@thekingofmoney2000 3/4 Japanese and 1/4 Filipino actually and I don't know any other Japanese people besides her that also have Filipino ancestry in them.
Oh man, I thought all he did was SAY that it needed a little soy sauce, not drown the whole dish in it... god. By the way I got hungry just watching scenes from the movie.
How dare he take so much of the good dish and drink like a drunk? He acted like the dinner was all about him. Entitled greedy bum. That would offend anybody
This was a simple case of cultural barriers. His behavior is not rude or inappropriate by American/Western standards. But in the Far East, they have a lot of cultural intricacies that take a long time to learn. Realistically, his girlfriend is not going to remember every single detailed thing he needs to know. For her, it is all second-nature. She grew up with those customs. He didn't. It's not his fault.
Shulicake American manners are different than Chinese manners. When I visited my Indonesian cousins, we went to visit a friend of the family. She asked us if we wanted something to drink. I said, "Yes, I'd like a Sprite, please." I was unaware that when the host offers a drink to the guest, the guest is supposed to politely decline. On another occasion, my cousins and I were dining at a restaurant when a friend of theirs was being introduced to us. I told her I was from America. Later on, my cousin Nancy told me it was rude for me to point out that I was American to a stranger, because in their eyes it was "bragging". On another occasion, I was at a party with my cousins and our grandmother (my maternal grandmother). When I was ready to leave, I left. The fact that I failed to say "goodbye" to our grandmother before leaving was offensive to them. Only someone who grows up in the East will know all these little intricacies. On another occasion, my cousins and I were discussing the movie "Romeo is Bleeding" with Jet Li and Aliya. Guess what? They had no aversion to using the N-word. Wouldn't that be offensive to you as an American?
perfectsplit I don't think so, most of the Asian women I see with white guys would not be considered beautiful in Asia. American and Asian standards of beauty are often different.
Yet she looks as if she hasn't aged a day. The beauty of an Asian woman has a believable illusion that they're immoral through age. And for all you kids at home reading, this is a compliment and testament to their beauty. I should know because I'm married to a woman from the Philippines.
thekingofmoney2000 These scenes happen all the time with interracial relationships.The mother clearly does not like Richard because he is not Chinese.Just looking at her eyes upon meeting him makes me squirm!
If anything he should’ve just taken cues from those around him since he had no real knowledge of the culture & their proprieties. And he just had bad manners
It's true he's completely insensitive and ignorant, but... "There were A FEW things I forgot to mention"? Well, then, what did she tell him? She seems to have left out all that was relevant... and then didn't try to help him at all. Plus, that narration is textbook overacting.
It's not exaggerated. The host should be humble and self-deprecating, not boastful. If the mother who prepared the dish were to say, "This is my best dish", it would be considered boasting. So the host should be humble by saying something along the lines of "Well, I couldn't get all the necessary ingredients, so this is what I came up with." Then the guests will taste the dish and proclaim, "Oh, you're mistaken! This dish is so perfect!"
I know a Chinese school teacher who is also married to a Chinese man. She says that this movie is quite accurate and real life is actually worse as far as domineering Chinese mother in laws.
Okay, but altering an entire dish that someone has made is bad even in western etiquette. What is he, a narwhale? 😂😂😂
exactly, I would be rethinking our relationship because the audacity...
Moral of the story: Remember to tell your partner EVERYTHING they should not do. EVERYTHING.
In the Far East, they have a lot of cultural intricacies that take a long time to learn. Realistically, his girlfriend is not going to remember every single detailed thing he needs to know. For her, it is all second-nature. She grew up with those customs. He didn't. It's not his fault.
It _is_ his fault for being so dense. He was so oblivious to the shocked reactions and gasps from the others at the dinner table.
@@EdoHP too bad nobody shared that advice with Reba years later...
@@RaymondHng You do know this is a movie, right?
@@Ragerian This film is an adaptation from Amy Tan's novel.
"Don't drink too much. Take a small spoonful of a dish so everyone can have some. Don't insult the cook and don't pour a condiment onto the plate everyone's being served from."
Is it just me or do those "Chinese manners" simply seem like basic table manners? I'm not Chinese and I grew up with all those things.
TheaterRaven THANK YOU!! I'm so sick of people thinking that we're overtly anal about everything. Like, this is literally common courtesy
I don't think it is common that cooks insult there own cooking and then ask that you to eat it. That's sounds strictly Chinese.
Maybe, but who puts sauces directly into a communal dish? O__o
@@jackanthony976 nope in most cultures, also abserve those around you when in a new envinroment
exactly!
"All this needs is a little soy sauce." *starts to pour more than little*
🤣
“She’d rather get rectal cancer!” LMFAO!!!
The guy's gasp at 2:28 makes me crack up every single time
Always thought that Waverly was so beautiful !
That’s Tamlyn Tomita, from Karate Kid 2
@@LeahWalentosky I am 43 years old and just now realizing they are the same person. Thank you!
Am I the only one who thinks Waverly is absolutely gorgeous???
Kumiko from Karate Kid 2. She's a 10/10. Gorgeous woman.
Of course, she's a cat.
@@devinmooseshe looks so different in this film. I know people get older but I think it was her face. It was a lot rounder and full I don't think she was chubby but there's a difference in karate kid that's why didn't recognise her
I love this because Rich is completely clueless as to what to do at the dinner table ha ha lol.
Where he went wrong was just pouring the soy sauce over the main dish ugh...good grief.
yumiko0017 He lacks basic manners period.
Well custums are very different from American.
On a real Chinese home dinner table, you won't find soy sauce sitting next to the dishes. Soy sauce (vinegar, and other sauces/seasoning/spices) belong to the kitchen, unless you are serving something that needs dipping, like Jiao Zi, Chun Juan, etc.
I think even White Americans who have lived here for some generations or longer would know that putting sauce all over the main dish is rude as you don't know if everybody else wants the sauce on there, because the main dish is for everybody to share. If you pour ketchup all over the main dish of let's say roast beef for a family dinner that could be seen as rude if you didn't even ask everybody either.
The cook asked for it. She insults her own cooking, says it is too bad to eat. What do you expect?
This was an excellent film coming from an Asian American male growing up in eighties America. The movie so relates to me. Regardless of gender this was how we grew up.
this is my mother. I'm Colombian but I relate to this film so much.
Even an American would know not to put a condiment on any dish meant for everyone. Dope.
Auntie Lindo, scene stealer. She made the whole film for me.
Agreed she has that personality that you see in all other cultures and races
Waverly looks so pretty *_* shes better than what i imagined when i first read the book xD
Waverly Jong was also Kumiko in "The Karate Kid Part II!"
The actress who plays Waverly is Japanese in real life.
This has to be the funniest clip. It never fails to crack me up, esp the soy sauce and rectal cancer jokes.
So many spots on his face 💀 😂 😂
Four lessons to learn from this video:
1) don't drink so much at another person's house
2) don't take tons of food until everyone has had some
3) don't brag you can do something, 'cause you'll embarrass yourself if you can't do it
4) and last, DON'T PUT condiments on to the serving dish! Put it on your own plate!
Fun Fact: In the book the dinner is for Waverly's father's belated birthday, but in the movie it is her mom's b-day dinner.
Haha Waverly's mom has the oh my god what the heck face 2:32
Gee that was stressful to watch again for me and its been 27 years? At least Waverly looks great.
The rectal cancer part gets me every time. Seriously I bet his table manners would have been considered indecent in any culture, even American's. I can live with the spontaneous toasting, but taking a large portion of the plate and soy-saucing the mother's best dish? lol that just spells general ignorance to me.
Not every ethically Western European partner of an East Asian is such a "bull in a china shop."
I know to just sit there, look down, and shut up!
MAGA !!!
And speaking of bull, Miyagi-sima (Played by the late Noriyuki Morita) once told a story about a naughty bull in Okinawa who escaped from the farmer's pen. This bull would wreck everything, chase down men working, children going to school, women shopping, everyone. One day, big festival everybody happy.
"On that day, bad bull became good soup....."
haha naw he actually got a lot of good roles after this. He became the star of Reba and then had a recurring role on Desperate Housewives. His comedy here help start his career!
Lol interracial couples can relate!
We don’t be knowing better 😹
Why does she remain silent during it all? I would have laughed to lighten the mood and told him the truth at the table.
must be fearing all the stereotypes of another culture and be thinking too much on marriage, bitchy is the simple word for it
"Why does she remain silent during it all?"
Because Orientals are generally passive. Very slow to respond, or take initiative.
Reprimanding a guest at he table is bad manners. The proper response to rudeness is silence.
Because Lindo clocked both of them the second she that smirk on Waverly's face. Waverly MEANT for it to be awkward for Lindo. But, clearly, she's dealing with a master. Lindo turned that right back on her and didn't even have to do anything because Rich was entirely too confident for his own good.
perfectsplit orientals lmao. I’m in THAT part of UA-cam huh
Interesting fact: Waverley once dated the Karate kid
At least he didn't stick his chopsticks upright on his bowl.
It would be impossible to stick his chopsticks in his bow.....he was eating off a plate
That would have been a Mr. Baseball moment.
Omg I have to see this movie again. Been too long!
Waverly is Kumiko from Karate Kid 2
@JHorowitz2mil when you are in someone else's home, be considerate of the homeowner. It doesn't matter what country you are in.
Asian and American cultures are very different, where there are things that won't make sense to the other's culture. Keeping an open mind builds understanding. That goes for both sides of the coin (in this instance, Asians and Americans).
As a 10 year old Korean growing up right there in the Bay Area, two things:
1) The man's reaction at 2:28 was forever embedded.
2) Even then, I refused to believe that it was 100% purely a cultural issue, especially re the soy sauce. The guy was either an ass or a dufus, if not both. He had a dish in front of him. Do it on your own portion and don't assume everyone's taste buds are the same. Personally, the rectal cancer line made more sense when I looked at it like this. Mothers ofc upset about the cultural ignorance, but their sense of who is an ass isn't dull. Oh well, didn't they end up together nonetheless?
the soy sauce thing reminds me of the add two shots of vodka vine
Seems like all of these things he did were not okay in Chinese culture because they're not okay in ANY culture. What a jerk.
Rich isn't all bad. Did you see that coat he gave her?
2:35 - 2:57 The look of disappointment and frustration. You see that exaggerated more in anime, which makes the females more intimidating & sexy all at once.
@andrewcolinwilson Did you know started as Kimiko in The Karate Kid II?
Here after Crazy Rich Asians
Give him credit he tried his best.
Did he though?
@@VerisimilitudeFilms1 Actually you are right I watched this again.
As far as the characters are concerned, Waverly says she "already prepped him". On WHAT? She seems to have left every single piece of relevant information out!
Regarding the actors: Tamlyn Tomita is one gigantic overactor. Both her facial expressions and her narration are way too forceful, all the time. In comparison, everyone else in the scene - including the little girl of the first few seconds - is a master of subtelty.
Hugo Dart IKR? She didn't seem to anticipate that his mannerisms would clash with her family traditions--heck, with general rules of politeness. But then, Waverly never seemed to be particularly bright to me. She's cold, vain and obsessed with her outermost image. Not a lot of depth, there.
"Waverly says she "already prepped him". On WHAT? She seems to have left every single piece of relevant information out!"
In the Far East, they have a lot of cultural intricacies that take a long time to learn. Realistically, Waverly is not going to remember every single detailed thing he needs to know. For her, it is all second-nature. She grew up with those customs. He didn't. It's not his fault.
"Actually, there were a few things [she] left out."
@@perfectsplit5515 I agree for the most part, but I'm not Chinese or of Asian descent, and I've always thought of making a pig of yourself at dinner and adding a condiment to the serving dish was incredibly rude. I don't even salt the food on my plate until I've tasted it first. Rich seemed nice enough, but he was a clueless idiot.
Re: JumbaFan
Rich did not know the custom that he was supposed to contradict the host when she criticized her own dish.
Westerners are used to being served individual dishes at a group dinner. They are generally not experienced in communal dishes. Didn't you see G.I.Jane? It wasn't considered "rude" when those Navy SEAL recruits pigged out at chow time.
My Indonesian cousins and I were guests at a friend's house once. When she offered us all something to drink, I was the only one who accepted. Everyone else else laughed, because I did not know that I was supposed to politely decline the host's offer.
When a relative of my Korean college roommate called, he was not there to take the call, so I offered to take a message for him. She would not leave a message. That was because Orientals do not want to impose.
There are a gazillion little cultural intricacies that you will not know unless you grow up in the Far East.
Soo painful to watch. 😯
The girl who plays Waverly is Japanese in real life.
Andrew Wilson she's also has filipino ancestry
Half Japanese, half Filipino
@@pedroGomez-pr6un ua-cam.com/video/qGiRtLT0P00/v-deo.html Yeah, she's 3/4 Japanese and 1/4 Filipino because her mother is half Japanese and half Filipino and her father is full Japanese. She was born in Japan and her mother was born in the Philippines and her father was born in the states and was stationed in Japan at the time she was born.
@@thekingofmoney2000 3/4 Japanese and 1/4 Filipino actually and I don't know any other Japanese people besides her that also have Filipino ancestry in them.
I feel bad for the guy who played Rich. He must get so much hate for this...
Where is the kid in the car scene? She sleeping in the back seat?
LOL
Was he raised by wolves? Seriously, some people have no manners!
Hey! Don't insult the wolves like that. :-P
Oh man, I thought all he did was SAY that it needed a little soy sauce, not drown the whole dish in it... god. By the way I got hungry just watching scenes from the movie.
waverly also on teen wolf LOL
How dare he take so much of the good dish and drink like a drunk? He acted like the dinner was all about him. Entitled greedy bum. That would offend anybody
This was a simple case of cultural barriers. His behavior is not rude or inappropriate by American/Western standards. But in the Far East, they have a lot of cultural intricacies that take a long time to learn. Realistically, his girlfriend is not going to remember every single detailed thing he needs to know. For her, it is all second-nature. She grew up with those customs. He didn't. It's not his fault.
+perfectsplit manners are present in America!
Shulicake American manners are different than Chinese manners. When I visited my Indonesian cousins, we went to visit a friend of the family. She asked us if we wanted something to drink. I said, "Yes, I'd like a Sprite, please." I was unaware that when the host offers a drink to the guest, the guest is supposed to politely decline. On another occasion, my cousins and I were dining at a restaurant when a friend of theirs was being introduced to us. I told her I was from America. Later on, my cousin Nancy told me it was rude for me to point out that I was American to a stranger, because in their eyes it was "bragging". On another occasion, I was at a party with my cousins and our grandmother (my maternal grandmother). When I was ready to leave, I left. The fact that I failed to say "goodbye" to our grandmother before leaving was offensive to them.
Only someone who grows up in the East will know all these little intricacies.
On another occasion, my cousins and I were discussing the movie "Romeo is Bleeding" with Jet Li and Aliya. Guess what? They had no aversion to using the N-word. Wouldn't that be offensive to you as an American?
what a goober
@shadowfox1383 Yes, I did.
I think even for American households, he would be seen rude and insensitive. Not about culture, but basic etiquette he lacks.
Why are there subs?
Omar Ben Close captioned for the hearing impaired.
But isn't rectal cancer bad...?
damn.. she was so beauty
Pouring condiments on an entire entree is not a cultural thing, it is an asshole thing.
Who does that?
I would love to have dinner with Asians and I would love to hangout with them. and I wanna be nice to them! 😋🍽
The girl here is so hot. It's easy to forget this film is 23 years ago and she's old now.
Really? I guess Daniel Larusso (Daniel-san) would agree with you on that, as he fought the bad guy for her at the end of Karate Kid Part II!
And like I said on Yahoo, the Oriental girls who are pretty ... usually end up with white guys.
perfectsplit I don't think so, most of the Asian women I see with white guys would not be considered beautiful in Asia. American and Asian standards of beauty are often different.
Yet she looks as if she hasn't aged a day. The beauty of an Asian woman has a believable illusion that they're immoral through age.
And for all you kids at home reading, this is a compliment and testament to their beauty. I should know because I'm married to a woman from the Philippines.
She's still hot. She's in the Good Doctor (i think)
HAHAHAHA REBEKKK SIA
Honestly this dude is kinda awkward and rude even by western standards :/
Miller
But that's what she wanted tho, lmao!!! Is this film like the color purple for chinese american women? Moral of the story: chiggas ain't sh!t 😆
Maybe if she was there with Daniel-san instead, then he would have remembered all the cultural intricacies at dinner. ;)
But he's ruin it with a cheesy joke. lol
this movie creeps me out.
this is insulting even to an american family ;(
Rich could've been a whole lot worse. Old Asian people need to lighten up
He disrespected her mother's dish. You're right though she could've slapped the mess outta him, but she refrained.
Omar Ben But her body language and looks of disdain were enough to scare anyone.
Different cultures do things differently. This is why everybody hates Americans. You guys want the whole world to do things your way.
thekingofmoney2000 These scenes happen all the time with interracial relationships.The mother clearly does not like Richard because he is not Chinese.Just looking at her eyes upon meeting him makes me squirm!
She actually accepts him in the end 😆
If anything he should’ve just taken cues from those around him since he had no real knowledge of the culture & their proprieties. And he just had bad manners
RP !!!!
FAILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
He's a putz....a little unrealistic.
It's true he's completely insensitive and ignorant, but... "There were A FEW things I forgot to mention"? Well, then, what did she tell him? She seems to have left out all that was relevant... and then didn't try to help him at all.
Plus, that narration is textbook overacting.
it is too exaggerated. the Chinese people are not that kind of tradition. this video is some extent to demonized the Chinese!!!!
It was written by a woman with Chinese parents.
It's not exaggerated. The host should be humble and self-deprecating, not boastful. If the mother who prepared the dish were to say, "This is my best dish", it would be considered boasting. So the host should be humble by saying something along the lines of "Well, I couldn't get all the necessary ingredients, so this is what I came up with." Then the guests will taste the dish and proclaim, "Oh, you're mistaken! This dish is so perfect!"
Have you ever live in China for long enough? Because this is the truth. Not exaggerated. Standard Chinese customs.
I know a Chinese school teacher who is also married to a Chinese man. She says that this movie is quite accurate and real life is actually worse as far as domineering Chinese mother in laws.
All the attractive ones always goes for white guys
"Oh."