Zimbabwe's Shona community living in Kenya launch bid for citizenship
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- Over 60 years ago, thousands of Shona people left their ancestral homes in what is today part of Zimbabwe, to spread their religious beliefs across East Africa. Although they've retained their heritage, they have since integrated into Kenyan communities. And now they've launched a bid for Kenyan citizenship. CGTN's Wilkister Nyabwa has more.
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Since the 1960s and you haven't given fellow Africans citizenship? And yet you're giving citizenship to the Chinese who only came yesterday. What a shame.
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I've not heard of chinese getting citizenships. Please enlighten me
The Kenyan government does not sell citizenship that easily. There are Arabs and Indians and Whites who have been here since before independence and still don't have documents.
Kenya has 100,000 stateless people so you know nothing
@@theturkanabus3610 I think you're the one who knows nothing. These are fellow Africans who have lived in that country for well more than half a century who surely deserve to be treated as citizens of that country officially.
@@Mbiriyababaproductions length of stay means nothing. The path to citizenship has always been clear: get married to a citizen, stay married for at least 7 years, then apply for citizenship.
Many of these stateless people have done that and gotten citizenship, the ones you see here are vichwa ngumu
Finally December 12th 2020 the Shona community was granted citizenship by the kenya government.
It's official now shona is the 45th tribe in kenya. Welcome to our community my brothers and sisters..am always proud of you.the most disciplined community.
Karibuni sana..they speak kikuyu language.
I'm appealing to the Kenyan government to give the Shona community citizenship so they can live mormal lives.
The have just received citizenship. ua-cam.com/video/_t0iXmGQGqc/v-deo.html
Given today
Some of the surnames shown are not Shona but Ndebele....So instead of saying "Shona community" say "Zimbabwean Community"
All of e surnames shown r ndebele kkk
i have 4 names i can give you one instead of repeating the same
Nonsense. these are manicaland people of marange they are not ndebele you tribalist Genocidal Zezuru. Yes they are shona. Zezure the Hutu of Zimbabwe
These are Shonas fro. MANICALAND, they are the ones with such surnames
@@gud870 these are surnames from Manicaland
Let's them be Kenyans. I was in Zimbabwe I felt so comfortable and loving that country so much. I'm a Tanzanian
The have just received citizenship. ua-cam.com/video/_t0iXmGQGqc/v-deo.html
We Kenyans have no problem with fellow Africans being granted citizenship. Our government should actually make it happen. Africa belongs to us all. If they have made a life here and want to settle, its very much okay.
The Kenya gov need to granted citizenship to this people like tomorrow, most of them are in fact born in Kenya only that they have maintained their norms due to their religious beliefs. They are hardworking folks whom i have personally known -even gone to school with, some very bright, but are mostly stuck due to citizenship issues.
The have just received citizenship. ua-cam.com/video/_t0iXmGQGqc/v-deo.html
I completely support and stand by them as I see them as distant cousins to Kenyans yet one should ask why are they denied citizenship whiles indians and arabs are welcome with open arms just a question to pounder
@@qbeebee5886 well all it takes is a bit of love and we will all be the bettet for it
The have just received citizenship. ua-cam.com/video/_t0iXmGQGqc/v-deo.html
Oh, I hope they are accepted soon. And it loks like they are very talented and creative people. Blessings.
The have just received citizenship. ua-cam.com/video/_t0iXmGQGqc/v-deo.html
I don’t think Zimbabwe would grant them citizenship if they were to come home. It’s better they stay there and fight for their citizenship
@Based Bãntų why can't the country they were born in give them citizenship. Both Zimbabwe and Kenya should look into these people's plight. On other forums I always see Africans saying " There are no borders in Africa, we are all Africans, bla bla bla". Show us there are no borders in Africa by giving these people citizenship.
@Based Bãntų in that case no African has the right to complain about xenophobia.
Based Bãntų speak for you on country, if my Kenyan government can give Indians citizenship then I don't see why they can't give it to the shona people
According to Zim laws , they are citizens and can apply. The issue here is the grandparents left Rhodesia ,bfo independence and families left in huge numbers.How & where to start integration,few speak Shona. Most have assimilated to Kenya culture. How many 3rd generation can trace their villages of origin?
@Based Bãntų They're Africans in Africa, who are you plonker ?
Ipai vanhu ava macitizenship nhai
Zimiso Ncube they will get citizenship... I’m Kenyan and this is the first time I’m hearing about the Zimbos in Kenya, they need to do more advocacy like the Makondes
Ipa vanhu Ava also is our tribes from Tanzania bena and hehe tribes
relevant authorities in Kenya please give my fellow Zimbabweans citizenship remember Barack Obama is yo fellow but he has American citizenship,so be guided accordingly.
I'm for kenya true
1. The government has always been willing to facilitate their return to Zimbabwe.
2. The government gives any of them who marry Kenyan citizens, citizenship. But most have refused to marry Kenyans.
You cannot have your cake and eat it, they are stateless based on their own misplaced sense of pride
Truly Kenya is the place to seek freedom.
Now this some the shit that is disturbing,here we have one set of Africans living on another part Africa,but the need citizen ship to enjoy and built their life in this part,we are preventing other African to move from place to place, but we willingly let other in without the prober documents,make no sense period,
Hands up to da Shonas. Enough respect now dey hv invaded Kenya oh God. Spread the word my dear brothers and sisters. U r the missionaries of Africa.
Please give them Kenyan citizenship................they will be Zimbabwe's stepping stone to colonize Kenya in the year 2067
😂😂😂😂...We have given them ...But they thought jesus was from the east....
A funny story how they came here....But we are one Africa...We actually Love them... All kenya fought for them
Zimbabweans, not Shona. Those are some ndebele names
The difference between them and us, is they're not trabilistic. They are both Shona and Ndebele in that group, but they are happy as one, I don't think they care about being called Ndebele or Shona
Africa is one. Don't be ashamed by this. We all came from somewhere and one day you will or your offspring pass through your origin. Thus how live goes.
Zimbabwean Israellites YESHUA loves you
tibvire, maIsraelite unomaziva iwe?
@@jeffstarzw can you care to explain why bantu languages have so many similiarities with hebrew language and why so many words have direct meaning ?
@@glenview000 Exactly. Like Mt Kenya we pray facing it and proclaim peace or Thaayu to the Holy Mountain and our Mwene Nyagah/Murungu. Thaayuini/Tsion/Zion
Why isn't this being aired in Kenyan Media. Am sure most Kenyans have no idea of their existence in Kenya. Citizen registration should be easy for those who were born in Kenya I've witnessed chokoras who don't even know their parents get ID's easily.
They should rather push for Zimbabwean citizenship and passport through the zimbabwean consulate in Kenya. I think the zimbabwean authorities will feel their plight more than the kenyan government. if they can get even temporary documentation from the consulate then travel to Zim for ID's which they can use to travel around and probably get temporary residence and the like from Kenya it's a better way of solving the issue... But what I know is lots of african governments complicate issues for no reason, this is actually a very simple thing to solve.
They should come back to Zim we will accept them
They are in Kenya for a purpose
any one born in a country whether from a foreigner or native should be given citizenship
They should be made an official tribe just as was done for the Indians!
That was a political move. Indians are as stateless as these people.
If you marry a Kenyan, you get Kenyan citizenship. Most Indians and Shonas have refused to do so and rightfully remain stateless
Oliver muregerera....Fought hard.....You can imagine life without access to education...And still rise your way up to this standards...
That man still has a Zimbabwean accent
That's because they still speak their ethnic language as a first language. This is a beautiful thing as it adds to the country's diversity.
It's because he left Zimbabwe when he was already an adult. The only people who now have a Kenyan accent are those who migrated at a tender age and those born in in Kenya.
Let's go guys bring back our Israelites back home 🏘️ we love from'nnow I'm going to visit then
In South Africa they are most welcomed and they are not even washed
Havasi mashona aya
I pray the government sees the problems they are going through and helps them be recognized as a Kenyan tribe like the Makonde and Pemba issued IDs and have privileges to use government amenities like hospitals and many more
They ought to be given citizenship and I support them! Very respectful and loving people! Ebu hii serikali yetu iwapee citizenship haraka sana! Chinese wanapewa citizenship ndio wakuje kututusi alafu watu wazuri kama hawa wanakosa citizenship aje!!? This is their home.
Shame on you Kenya, you gave citizenship to Europeans, Chinese and Indians who just came 10 years ago but fail to give fellow Africans. I don’t even understand how African governments operate and think. Where is the logic? Africa will never ceases to disappoint.
and who the hell are you?? Mind your bizness coz you know 0 about Kenya
What I am doesn’t matter, we don’t want to support stupidity that tend to perpetuate in Africa, sorry to say but it is what it is. Why not giving fellow Africans documents, I will never visit a crazy country like that one. After all Zimbabwe is much developed than Kenya
@@adams6798 True you 100% ignorant about Kenya so shush.....
Wow... Most Kenyans don't even know the Shona are in Kenya. I'm pretty sure very few people in leadership know what their going through. They need a platform to raise their voice just like the makonde and am sure they'll be granted citizenship.
the title of this video is just so wrong. Two Ndebele surname there and only one Shona surname there but you choose to say Shona people....
We really don't know the zim tribes...Now granted
Thank God that under the current constitution they stand a good chance. I hope our government grants them Kenyan citizenship.
Get them documented so that they can work and buy land and live freely this is Africa
they are now officially Kenyan citizens
grant them citizenship... aluta continua,👊
They must be fluent in Kikuyu than many Kikuyus in Nairobi.
Just give then citizenship for they have lived there the rest of their lives & know nothing about Zim. Before the colonial borders people used to move around freely!
The have just received citizenship. ua-cam.com/video/_t0iXmGQGqc/v-deo.html
This is sad ....
Every foreigner in kenya got citizenship ..legal or illegally...
Why aren't they getting their citizenship?
1960s is NOT 1800s they can still trace their families. Just saying,good for kenya to grant them citizenship.
Uhuru kenyatta son of jomo kenyatta will grant them citizenship, its jomo who welcomed them into Kenya because he was a panafricanist
Mruhurupliz help our people
dennis mahacker, We are all Africans. u are heartless, selfish and cruel.u did nor get the story right. check other channels for more enlightment. These people's parents came to East Africa in the 60's and 70's with the British to spread the gospel as missionaries. they used travel passports written on them United Kingdom. later on it became difficult for the m to attain National ID's. They were born in Kenya by Zimbabwean parents. stop being tribalistic.Wether Ndebele or Shona it shouldn't bother you. Kenya is the only country in Africa which has hosted millions of refugees for more than 50 yrs. check and read. Kenyans love pple and have sympathy. The largest refugee camps can be found in Kenya. We live with pple from D r, congo, Rwanda, Burundi, Sudan, Ethiopia, Somaalia, the Nubians from Egypt and we love them as brothers. No xenophobia in Kenya. 'Hakuna Matata' 'no worries'. The real Mt. Zion is he re...God's resting place. Iam sure our government will give them citizenship. don't worry they are not claiming anything of yours. You have no love for your people.
I bet non of the them wants to return to Zim. Who would want to go to Zim
Better they return home and build their country. Iyasuka anytime when your host is tired of you. Why do people love being refugees really? Who will build your country in your absence? ?
@Based Bãntų nope
@@WNdaba you have a valid point, and I'm Zimbabwean, living in Zimbabwe.
+Jeffstar Mavangira I also returned to my country. Being an immigrant is just rubbish. Why reduce yourself to second class citizen when you can be a first class citizen in your country with your people.
@@WNdaba exactly
Kenyans are more civilised and educated than South Africans and you can tell by the comments
This is Kenya...ID is for sale. Just Ask Ethiopians, Somalis and Chinese. Simply NO Excuse for ppl to be living that way. Everything is for sale in Kenya.
Thank you for that information! May someone tell me the position of AU!
But those people there are not speak Shona like us Why
When I was young I used to see this people moving around selling seat covers (vitambaa)...I used to think they are wagisu😀😀😀 .. and you can book for your preferable patterns on your vitambaa. But this people are very hardworking.
Juana Dube's skin is on point for a 73 years old woman😍
I’m part Shona so I just wanna see what meh tribe is all about today 😐😐😐
I am glad there are now officially Kenyans.On 12/12/2020, they were granted Kenyan citizenship by the Kenyan president
Mmmm are these people really Shona?? Their language is totally different from Zimbabwean Shona
They're shona check other videos they speak fluent Shona, including local languages
we with the citizenship are also struggling. it is not helping. i dont see how it'll change your lives. bado mtakufa tu like most of us
If Somalis can easily acquire proper documentations in Kenya(mostly illegally) , what's stopping the Shona's/zimbambwens??
Somali's lived the second largest province in kenya,
Which means I think they are Somali Kenyan's
Yes Kenya has it's own "indigenous" somali community and also Somalia Somalis'who who roam the streets illegally. You'll be surprised that they have documents and don't even speak the local language(swahili/english
i wonder if the elders have passed on their shona language to their children...i presume what they are speaking now is an indigenous language of kenya or perhaps a blend of some sort...but i doubt the generations that were born after the pioneers can still speak shona well or speak it at all...
the kids speak, once came across them at JKIA and was surprised to hear them speaking in Shona
They are crazy just need to get in a bus and come home they not crossing red sea
come home to where?...to which village?...to which chief that they know of?...its been 50 years...the only surviving member of the pioneers is 100 years old...the rest who were born in kenya do not even know zimbabwe
@Thokomagonya Ndlovu after all they are ndebeles,your parents
@Thokomagonya Ndlovu 😍😍
@@ignatiusmaziofa2393 They are our brothers and we shall fight for their rights.
which type of shona is this? im shona but i dont understand it
They are speaking Swahili not shona although they are good in both languages.
They are speaking Swahili not Shona although they are fluent in both languages.
@@mwangiwanganga715 oh okay thank you because i didnt understand the shona..thanks for that
Every foreigner wants to be a citizen in Kenya...its like we don't have strong policies that needs to be adhered to in our constitution.Attaining nationality in Kenya it's like a joke nowonder now the Chinese government is dumping some of its people in our country with the visit visas & nobody is making a follow up on this matter then in some years to come they will also want to be granted citizenship.If all these foreigners comes and occupy the small land & businesses we have where will our generation go as legit Kenyans!!!#StillNotUhuru
This is s unique case, every case is usually dealt with separately in any immigration department.
Ngwenya and Dube are Ndebele surnames, NOT shona .. The two men are shona the English accent ,shona people of zimbabwe have that English accent,they speak as if they are fighting.
Wapewe mara moja.
Are we not a united Africa
nei zvakanyanya kuoma kuwana ukama hweKenya.
We are all happy that now they are Kenyans....We really love them....We felt bad for their plight....
I think they are the same people that I thought were salvation army in the eighties!!
ndeve church yekwa maichaza, muzinda wavo mumwe uri kwa zvimba, kwa chirau near murombedzi
@@tadiwamoyo5883 uum not sure about that, aya ndiwo mapostori aya same nevari kuBotswana. Dai vari vekwa maChaza dai varume vakapfeka makhaki nemabhandi. Plus yekwamai Chaza inonzi GRJ iyi inonzi Gospel Church of God GCG.
They are not citizens?
Uhuru Kenyatta the president of Kenya will work on their problem, coz it's heavy 4songo 2solve, but Uhuru will do something 4them
Kenya will one day find itself in a cross road on the issue of immigration, that is if the the economic growth disparity in EA continues at the current rate.
Already I doubt the census figures. Millions of "Kenyans" are not Kenyan at all
And you say Africas we are united what a lie.
A person who went to England 10 years letter they were given citizenship but in our mother land another black person will make sure that you will never enjoy even when you are born in that country.
In Zimbabwe we have Malawians ,Mozambiquean and South Africans who now possess a Zimbabwean citizenship and went to school in Zimbabwe..
Mapostori they are all over the countries jus let them settle and give them citizenships.zvomungavadii vakangozara nyika dzose
Riririririri
Those are not Shona people, their accent isn't Shona, they might be Zimbabweans but not Shona people
i don't think you understand what 50 years can do to your language in a foreign land...because of trying to assimilate with the locals you speak less of your language, you loose your accent and you children grown up without even knowing the language of your ancestors...
Give them a break they are surrounded with Swahili speaking people. The accent can change through the years. I feel for them.
These are shonas, they were speaking fluent shona in one of the youtube videos i watched
dzokai kumba
where exactly will that be
that's a cult, not a church. vakarasika vabatsirei
you need more religious tolerance than that...they need help simply because they are human beings...no need to label them like that
@@ignatiusmaziofa2393 ok, that's a white garment church
@@jeffstarzw These are Bantu Israel. They even have the right menorah as opposed to the impostor menorah
im shona these people are not shona that language is not shona
Of course they are speaking Swahili because all of them except one 101 year old are the children of those who came here. Is that so difficult to understand ?
going to someone country will it stop u from speaking your language
No, and does it deny you your birth right & true ethnic identity ? These people are 2nd generation ,they may not be to speak shona and it is quite sensible
But the names are Dube, Ngwenya ,Muregeri. Typical Zim names. They are now intergrated in Kenyan society thts why they speak Swahili. It's just like in Zim theyre pple from Malawi, Zambia, Mozambique with names like Banda Phiri etc but they speak shona or ndebele but not their mother tongue . Ava vava zukuru. Saka shona yatobuda
@@lillianmhanduu how do you expect them to speak shona when they left Zimbabwe 60 years ago? Do you think all these new generation Zimbabwean babies born all around the world can speak their languages. Does that stop them from been Zimbabwean? As far as I am concerned they have as much right to claim their Zimbabwean birthright as any Zimbabwean born inside the country. So many Malawian born Zimbabweans have adopted either shona or Ndebele in Zimbabwe and cannot speak their languages. I think it unfair to deny these Stateless people their heritage. Both Zimbabwe and Kenya should look into their plight.
kkkkkkkkkkk ayewawo ngavadzoke kumba kwavo uku ed varikutoshaya anovavhotera
How are they shona people hapana kana one wandanzwa anotaura shona yacho
Because they were born in Kenya most of them and some they went there in the 70s and 60s
@@@sindy308 those who migrated in the 70s spoke shona how is it they are not speaking the mother tongue at all, i dont believe these are shona.
I suppose they now speak local language. But the names are definately Shona. Just like in Zim we have pple of Malawi, Zambia ,Mozambique who intergrated and speak shona /ndebele
@Based Bãntų I don't think they are interested in going back. Coz theyve intergrated. They are now 2nd 3rd 4th generation. I'm sure if they did they wouldn't be rejected. Their names are definately Shona. And besides Zim is too economically challenging. I wouldn't recommend them to come back.
the names dube, ngwenya are zimbabwean, ndebele, only muregerera is a shona there, but yea they are all zimbos
These are lies, Shona people are only in Zimbabwe .Don’t try to interrupt our perfect Zimbabwean history. We don’t have any associations with North, East or the Western Africa. Don’t even try that. Soon they’ll want to be part of the Great Shona people.
please dont expose your foolishness on social media, if you don't have anything to say rather pray for wisdom my dear. We Zimbos we are here in Kenya like many of us, so its not unique that these guys are stuck her without any documentation. Mashona shaaa and some have mutupo chaiyo
You seem not to know much about Zimbabwean history. Zims migrated all the way from Central Africa years back some settled in Kenya and others continued the journey South. To be precise l think the Zims are directly related to the Luhya people of Kenya they are the same people that headed South. So many words are similar between the Zims and Luhya and also physical features .Plus just being Bantu also means the Zim languages closely resemble many Bantu languages of Kenya even Kiswahili.
kuldra Job I’m not foolish wangu, you might be in Kenya yes but I’m not worried about their documentation , I just don’t feel comfortable with some ground of black people from Kenya claiming to be Shona. Nahh .
HANDOLOH thanks for the enlightenment but I know the history of the Bantu people . They shouldn’t claim to be Shona.
@@DenisTravels so if my tribe migrated to Zim years back l can't claim to be my original tribe?