Just got one of these. Nearly always gets a perfect tune. Even when it doesn't, ear tuning is a breeze after using it, since you're already close to your desired sound.
This guy seriously needs to learn some basics before he makes videos. EQUAL TENSION DOES NOT EQUAL SAME PITCH!!! That would be a perfect world and far too easy. Rarely will a head ever be in tune with itself by using the same tension on each lug. Its the same pitch at each lug point that matters, not tension.
But the problem with this (if I understand it correctly) is that it's only making the tension of the LUG equal, not necessarily the skin. If you have one lug that is say, rustier than another, or is threaded differently the skin will be out of tune.
@bziswin111 Well, equal tension, never really means same pitch. the way I use the torque key is to get everything even tension wise, then go round each lug clockwise and even up the pitch. But you can do the equal tension, it's personal preference at the end of the day....
Very misleading. The laws of physics don't change for the marketing world. In a perfect world, all my tuners would required the same amount of torque to apply the same amount of tension to the head evenly all the way around. The truth is that hardly any of my tuners require the same amount of torque to turn. Some turn super easy. Others require massive force. But it is a good tool for what it is designed to do.
@drumzac i just got one of these keys and no i does not always give you equal pitch... but it get each lug into a similar range... fine tuning is still used... this just makes it faster by getting each lug into a similar pitch range
@Meykuhh23 Depends on the tone you're going for. Same tension on the top as the bottom is called “square” tuning. It is a good place to start. From there, one can just tweak the top head for tone and the bottom head for resonance. Experimentation is key as each drummer likes a different sound and each drum is unique and has its own “sweet spot”
it doesnt perfectly tune the drum because tension on the lugs and the head are 2 different things and even tension doesnt mean tuned, but this still speeds it up sinificantly, because you start at a reasonably close tuning in most cases with this key so it still speeds up the tuning process significantly, i have one, its true, it doesnt do magic tuning shit and make it perfect but my drum tuning went from 3 hours to 1 with it
@@merk1003 damn you still alive? And why did I think I typed that response to you? What you told me is something I would say 😂😂😂😂 How do you even make it a key chain???
@@merk1003 bruh stop taking my words my guy. 😂 Yo quick question. Do you tune your drums reasonably well? I’m still learning to tune mine and it’s kinda difficult. Any tips?
+jeppe935 Thats because the lug across and around that one get tightened a little and that makes more tension on that certain lug too. I don't know if I explained that very well.
@IAmSippycup yea that what someone at a music store told me. He was said "it will get all of the lug very close" and put emphasis on "if your lugs aren't rusty".
Just got one of these. Nearly always gets a perfect tune. Even when it doesn't, ear tuning is a breeze after using it, since you're already close to your desired sound.
Well still today, 13 years later, its still helpfull. im gonna order it RIGHT NOW
This guy seriously needs to learn some basics before he makes videos. EQUAL TENSION DOES NOT EQUAL SAME PITCH!!! That would be a perfect world and far too easy. Rarely will a head ever be in tune with itself by using the same tension on each lug. Its the same pitch at each lug point that matters, not tension.
But the problem with this (if I understand it correctly) is that it's only making the tension of the LUG equal, not necessarily the skin. If you have one lug that is say, rustier than another, or is threaded differently the skin will be out of tune.
Then it’s time to get off your ass and clean your drums….😂😂😂
@bziswin111 Well, equal tension, never really means same pitch. the way I use the torque key is to get everything even tension wise, then go round each lug clockwise and even up the pitch. But you can do the equal tension, it's personal preference at the end of the day....
It never hit me that some lugs dont turn as easily as others, now I dont think this will actually have any purpose
Yes... :D I was looking for this comment because i have that problem :)
Very misleading. The laws of physics don't change for the marketing world. In a perfect world, all my tuners would required the same amount of torque to apply the same amount of tension to the head evenly all the way around. The truth is that hardly any of my tuners require the same amount of torque to turn. Some turn super easy. Others require massive force. But it is a good tool for what it is designed to do.
@drumzac i just got one of these keys and no i does not always give you equal pitch... but it get each lug into a similar range... fine tuning is still used... this just makes it faster by getting each lug into a similar pitch range
@Meykuhh23 Depends on the tone you're going for.
Same tension on the top as the bottom is called “square” tuning. It is a good place to start. From there, one can just tweak the top head for tone and the bottom head for resonance. Experimentation is key as each drummer likes a different sound and each drum is unique and has its own “sweet spot”
prock10000 Is this a good tool?? What setting do you use for the key??
It's made by Odeon and it's called Sex Panther.
BASS DRUM
it doesnt perfectly tune the drum because tension on the lugs and the head are 2 different things and even tension doesnt mean tuned, but this still speeds it up sinificantly, because you start at a reasonably close tuning in most cases with this key so it still speeds up the tuning process significantly, i have one, its true, it doesnt do magic tuning shit and make it perfect but my drum tuning went from 3 hours to 1 with it
After doing so,it wouldnt hurt to press the middle of the skin if its brand new, then checking again,repeating the process
Top G right here. Finally a video I understand 😂
@EILIVdrummer Yes I know. I was being sarcastic (notice my smiley face) by the way it was spelled (acuarian)
But i guess it will be at least a quicker way to getting (nearly) the tuning you want, and then you can tweak it a little bit :)
@ndrummer93 You're very welcome! Buy online from George's Music!
Don't believe on this same tension but different pitch check by yourself and return it if your not satisfied.
Yes the lugs don't provide the same tone, but at least after using these you have a good starting point for fine tuning.
@king94drummerboy loool dude trust me its not small. its like sooo huge xD yes i have 1 :P
You can’t know if the drum is in tune and “sounds good” if you finish with the resonant head on the floor..... lol. You never even hit the drum.
well this wont get exactly the same pitch at each lug but its the best starting point you can get
I have been tunning my drums with Evans tunning key forever n it's so reliable.... never leave home without it
Bruh so even at work you take it with you? 😂
@@IveReignSupreme
No shit surelock, it's on my key chain you fart face lol
@@merk1003 damn you still alive? And why did I think I typed that response to you? What you told me is something I would say 😂😂😂😂 How do you even make it a key chain???
@@IveReignSupreme
What a troll
@@merk1003 bruh stop taking my words my guy. 😂 Yo quick question. Do you tune your drums reasonably well? I’m still learning to tune mine and it’s kinda difficult. Any tips?
@fd2chris It`s a drumhead brand... like Remo, Evans Attack...
Right now i have it set on 2 for which I have all my toms tuned. That way I know that they all will be at an accurate pitch with each other
@juanrosa01 what's an acuarian drumhead :)
Does all the drum Toms have to be at same tension
you just gotta love that tool kit
@fd2chris Oh! Stupid me^^
@IAmSippycup good point
you Rock
i find it weird, that the first lug that clicks, has not been turned more than one turn, as opposed to the others that need 3 or 4 turns.
+jeppe935 Thats because the lug across and around that one get tightened a little and that makes more tension on that certain lug too. I don't know if I explained that very well.
@IAmSippycup yea that what someone at a music store told me. He was said "it will get all of the lug very close" and put emphasis on "if your lugs aren't rusty".
No thanks. I muffle the hell out of my drums anyway. I like them to thud.