On track with a Porsche 2.7 RS | How to drive - Episode 1
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- Опубліковано 14 вер 2017
- Dickie Meaden takes you behind the wheel of a Porsche 911 2.7 RS in part one of the new 'How to Drive' series from Motor Sport. Learn the tricks that bring the most out of one of Porsche's most stunning cars.
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Too bad I couldn't add two or three thumbs-up. The first video to dniscuss how a 911 is meant to be driven, with demonstration! Excellent! It also hints at what makes 911s special compared to a "ideal" mid-engined configuration. The rear engined configuration is not wrong or bad, it just requires the driver to drive the car differently. Once you "get" how to drive a 911, you look at driving other cars completely differently.
That was a joy to watch, and get a better understanding of how to push a 911 in the right direction.
Nice video. Love seeing the inside front wheel lift off the ground ;-)
I haven't seen a greater video than this for a 2.7 RS. Thank you so much. Brilliant
Excellent demonstration of how to handle the 911 in the corners in a delicious manner.
Waau Dickie, YOU CAN REALLY DRIVE a 911 classic. That's why Porsche drivers are a unique culture. Nothing behaves like it, hence the name widow maker. If one is fortunate enough to grew into this style, there's nothing quite like it!
Wow, the very definition of "smooth, but quick" driving inputs. Very impressive.
3:25 Only a 911 can look that composed lifting a wheel during a corner..
Anyone else notice the runtime of this Porsche video ;) Thank you for posting...loved it!
Amazingly done!
Absolutely brilliant!!!
Great video. I am fortunate enough to own a 1970 911RS outlaw tribute. They are simply fantastic, for all the reasons you commonly hear. I encourage you to drive/own one if you have the opportunity, the most fascinating thing to me is the feedback they give...you hear it over and over again, but experiencing it is just one of the reasons that makes it so special. cheeRS
Brilliant Video!
This was a three wheel drive car... Very cool!
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To me, the definitions of oversteer and understeer are the wrong way round....🤔😕
Thank god this driver knows! Awesome vid with running commentary, really brilliant.
Brakes and gears in a straight line going in, no trail breaking. Turn in, balance and button it. Don't flutter or lift. Keep the weight on the wheel under the outside rear.
IMO, spot on. I spent several years competing w/ the POC here in SoCal and that's really the way a 911 needs to be driven (at least the older ones).
wait so you rotate the car on the power and not on the breakes... do you induce oversteer with a small lift on entry or the thing just oversteers naturally?
@@lucasbscher7839 Remembering back a few years from driving my beloved 964, I would say that if you're anywhere near the limit, unless you are a very skilled driver you should not play with lift off oversteer in a 911 or you'll be swiftly back into the bank - both literally and otherwise. I knew my own limits and so am still here to tell the tale! :-)
@@lucasbscher7839 You let the car rotate under braking. A small steering input with the nose settled lets the rear of the car step out, and when it has rotated far enough you feed the gas back in to manage the slide. Once the car is settled you can feed in more power after the apex for a great 4-wheel drift towards the exit.It is wildly entertaining. Watch the historic races from the Goodwood Festival of Speed. Woo hoo!
There's a more fun way to do it, which I think he was demonstrating in this video. Your description can be any car, but what he's trying to say is use the lift off oversteer mid corner to rotate the car, and give it throttle at the right time to correct it instead of the wheel, and power your way out. Look at his sterring input, he's not breaking in a line and turning in smoothly, he's almost snapping the wheel, at the same time lifting off to rotate the rear, then throttle back to plant it. He's not trying to show how to get the fastest time, but how to have the quintessential 911 experience.
This looks so fun.
That was brilliant 👍
Perfect!! Now I know how I should drive my Porsche 911 2.7 RS , the one I have waiting in the garage ... oooops (sigh! )
Awesome demonstration of car control in this video...I love how each lap gets closer, Closer, CLOSER to perfecting the technique until the result is "Just Right"!
Would anyone who has raced early 911s know what type/class of tires DM is running on the 911 in this video?
I can't get my ...mostly stock...3liter/66 to slide nicely like this when I'm running on track with R-Comps tires.
I am wondering if these videos of old 911s doing beautiful slides through corners, and the in-car cameras showing drivers making multiple 180degree steering corrections through corners (like the Spa & Goodwood & Dijon videos) are running on a less sticky tire??
Any guidance from "those in the know"? Thanks.
I had a 70 911E and like this car the clutch and brake pedal have a lot more space between them than the newer 911's like my 996 which are super close together.
Pedals on those classic 911 (from 1969 up to Carrera 3.2) were awfully positioned.
However aluminium aftermarket racing pedals were available,and adjusting them to my personal standards I got some improvement.
Great video. Plenty of commentary about how the car feels to drive, its characteristics, and enough engine noise and video angles.
It Dec 2020 it would be great if you did the same series for a Datsun 240z
I've never been lucky enough to drive a 911 fast, but I've punted a few souped up VW beetles pretty hard. One especially fast one - fibreglass panels, lowered roofline, turbocharged kombi engine, the whole bit. A pretty well sorted car, for a VW. Still quite the handful - a higher centre of gravity and less power, not to mention far less refinement, and, well, they were never meant to go that fast, unlike the 911. I'd always hoped that the experience I gained fanging those VWs around might come in handy if I ever got to push a 911 hard. I got to drive a 930 Turbo once back in the late 1980s, but I was young and had no motorsport experience to mention back then so it was just a little punt around the block (a family friend owned the car). I sure would like to drive it again now to see just how much of a handful they really are, but alas that car and the friend who owned it are both gone now. He traded it in on a Ferrari 308 soon after cos he said it gave him a few scary moments, and the Ferrari, whilst not as fast, was infinitely more predictable on the road. He wasn't a motorsport guy though, just a regular dude with regular driving skills.
To drive a 911 properly fast like the one in this video no doubt takes skill and experience, Dickie clearly has a lot of both. Fantastic video, I was grinning from ear to ear watching it.
Wonderful. Please do more of these.
Keep your eyes peeled!
how does this change for a 2002 gt4
Beautiful video. How stiff is it for the front to be off the floor?
Due to the rear weight bias, most early 911s will lift the inside wheel. You can definitely feel the 'thump' in the floor when it settles back down. *THWACK* "We have touch down!"
🙆♂️🖤👌this guy can drive
Thank god, now I know how to drive my 1973 911 Carrera RS 2.7
Was one of the 2.7 RS's imported by John Stein Motors in Wilmington DE?
C'est une des voitures qui faisait partie de la collection de Philippe Aunay, président du Club Porsche de France, décédé fin 2004, et qui visiblement est maintenant en Angleterre.
Great stuff, Dickie. Which circuit is that?
Blyton Park Circuit
Don't you want some additional front suspension droop, in order to avoid lifting that inside front tire off of the pavement?
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I sad lily found the scraps of one of these and luckily I got the steering wheel off but it’s so sad to see it in that condition
I’m currently looking at a ‘77 that’s been converted to RHD, nothing really wrong with it either yet no one wants to buy? 2.7 Flat six, some panels need work but could be replaced down the line...
You could replicate an RS and get 99% of the experience for pretty cheap for a Porsche
I wonder if I would like it. Is it easy to avoid something showing up on the road ? At high speed like 80 to 100 mph on non motorway roads ?
Get on a track, not an open road to do that, please!
JMS JMS2 Don't worry, I live in France. Sorry, I'm of this generation who has been used to drive fast. 100 mph is peanuts. Never annoying or scaring other drivers, always using turn signals, never taking risks if not enough visibility.
But sometime I meet animals like deers, boars and rabbits, where even 70 mph can be an issue. So, brake , release brakes, turn steering wheel violently in one direction then the other direction to get back on the right lane (Moose test to summarize). With a BMW, no problem.
What would it be with a Porsche of that era? I really wonder.
@@mariustresorus942 you would have to do that maneuver very smoothly and precisely to not upset the chassis. The rear end does not like abrupt direction changes. I swapped ends in my ‘77 S enough times to know.
Add with the advance in tyres technology even the 80s Turbo can be trash around.
touring spec - how different is this to a 2.4S with 190hp? i wonder. seems like a 2.4S would be most of the experience for a lot less $
Where’s episode 2?
Very frustrating how the shot cuts away from the onboard just as you turn in. From inside the car is where we get the best perspective of how the car is actually responding to inputs.
Driving is fun. 911’s make every cornering just absolutely incomparably better than any other car. That’s why they still fly off the dealerships lot for 95,000 on a Monday morning through the recession and for the last 50 years.
95? i wish. just picked my new model for 200.
@@odl21 you got duped 😂
Need For Speed 5 taught me how to do this when I was a kid. Now I just need a real Porsche :D
I understand now why I was quicker with my 320cd BMW and never found a 911 owner to play with me. On open back road of course, in France.
I couldn't stop focusing on that Maserati badge on your race suit. Please pin a Porsche cloth badge over it.
Otherwise an excellent video, thanks.
the front wheel came off the ground
I think I've just come...........
abrupt turn in - trying to make it slide? Also, not a turing model, at least not on outside
Jesus...!
The handling characteristics of the early 911, is exactly why you shouldn't "let the wheel move through your hands" (7:11).
That seems quite similar to handling my wife when she's having her monthly. Difficult, but satisfying when you get it right.
I don’t understand the overly aggressive initial turn in. It’s like he is trying to drift it instigating oversteer instead of gradually transferring weight to set the car. Car never looked smooth and on balance overly loading and unloading the suspension.
not iconic classic 911 . they compare wich is better 2.7 rs from 73 or 3.0 rs from 74. big winner is 3.0 rs . 2.7 rs is more like street car 3.0 is more racing car close to 2.8 rsr
yup. have a twin spark FiA spec 3.0 RS with 343hp. beast. not much fun on the road though. i'd take a 2.4S for that every day.
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I like the commentary, but I wanted to check out the longer wheelbase, and there is not a single side shot of the car. It’s like they went out of their way to prevent doing a full side view, so I have to downvote.
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you can not beat me because I am driving a stolen porsche.