Many hours playing Missle Command and Space Invaders. Thanks for opening it up. Bet prices for games are going to go way up, and I wonder if anyone is going to reproduce new old ones.
This is very good news because even though the main board may be small and it may be connected through jumper pins this means that the modding community can make their own revision of the board with an emulator that's capable of playing more games than what Atari originally released with the main board I see an SD card slot that is not soldered on to that board there's also another spot where the possibility of a firmware change could relieve that as storage for ROMs possibly I see they're being a lot of potential with this system and honestly I give Atari a big thumbs up because they definitely provided to their community what we wanted. Now when it comes to the controller honestly it's really nice to see a bit of some modern improvements I love that they put the stamps on there to show the pinouts so that you're able to test it a little bit easier I've made a few joystick testers myself but point is is that with the new joystick The fill that the contacts on the PCB will eventually wear out and rub off it's happened before with modern controllers and it wears out easily this is a sad part for me I would have liked them to have went with something a bit better but honestly with physical buttons this would have even been a bad idea as for the old controllers they used a physical contact and it wore out as well but you could remove the plastic layer rebend the contacts and then reattach them as if nothing ever happened sometimes this worked but with this there is no method they wear out they wear out. Honestly the loading time that you're seeing on the screen there is depending upon the game because what is happening is the system is caching the game from the cartridge onto the system and after it cashes it then it loads the ROM that is just been copied from the cartridge onto the system So depending upon the game size depends upon your wait time keep in mind folks it's an emulator but this could have potential on backing up games if there's a way that modders could be able to get into the system itself and as I said before there was an SD card slot think about this there might be a way to dump ROMS.
Can't wait to see what the Modding community comes up with for this. You are correct about the controller, enough though I REALLY like it, this wasn't a modern upgrade, but feels very authentic - Thank you for the comment! Hope you can check out my Retro Gaming channel also ua-cam.com/users/StevesRetroGaming
Great video, got one of these delivered a couple of days ago, a personal favourite of mine is 'Video Pinball,' which I know from playing lots, many years ago.
Thought i share this console is designed to be “hot swappable” unlike the original 2600, you can just unplug the cartridge and it takes you back to the loading game screen, where you can plug in another cartridge
I didn't notice that, But there are no manuals or instructions with this - except the hook ups that no one needed - How do you think they would to a bios update? Thank you for the comment!
No problem, excellent video by the way. Being a rockchip based device, like the flashback units. You would be able to update the firmware using that same (or similar) program. The USB C port on the back of the console actually uses the same bus as that Micro USB you saw when tearing down the unit. So if you boot the console into recovery mode, the Flash can be rewritten with whatever emulator updates and QoL fixes that are needed.
The interesting thing is that on the back of the board you removed it looks like it has the footprint for an SD card reader socket. I bet if you soldered one on there you could load roms onto it and it'd play them.
What is inside the 10-in-1 cartridge? I'm curious which EPROM/flash ROM they did use. Atari likely sells enough of these systems to be significant and push the manufacturer to keep the legacy ROM in production, which might benefit the rest of the retro computing world.
Oh, for that one, I would have to destroy the label to open it. But that's a great question and only a matter of time until someone does that video. Thank you for the comment!
@@gordonshumway7465 They have no choice other than using a tradional parallel ROM (can be either flash or EPROM), otherwise the cartridge will not work on an original 2600, and it does work perfectly. Also, the DIP switches are a clear sign there is a traditional parallel ROM inside the cartridge.
My new atari paddles that I optionally bought do jitter and cannot access potentiometer like the old ones that I fixed. Anybody same? How the hell access the micro small potientometer?
YES, the 20 second load time is so horrible, especially when I have so many 2600 units in my basement - My 7800 stopped working so, this serves that purpose for me - Thank you for the comment!
I really wonder how will they do updates? Will there be any? Will people mind having to open the machine to do an update? OK only 4 screws to open - Thank you for the comment!
Many hours playing Missle Command and Space Invaders. Thanks for opening it up. Bet prices for games are going to go way up, and I wonder if anyone is going to reproduce new old ones.
YES, for me I played Missile Command and Asteroids for hours, until my thumb would hurt!! Great memories - Thank you for the comment!
This is very good news because even though the main board may be small and it may be connected through jumper pins this means that the modding community can make their own revision of the board with an emulator that's capable of playing more games than what Atari originally released with the main board I see an SD card slot that is not soldered on to that board there's also another spot where the possibility of a firmware change could relieve that as storage for ROMs possibly I see they're being a lot of potential with this system and honestly I give Atari a big thumbs up because they definitely provided to their community what we wanted. Now when it comes to the controller honestly it's really nice to see a bit of some modern improvements I love that they put the stamps on there to show the pinouts so that you're able to test it a little bit easier I've made a few joystick testers myself but point is is that with the new joystick The fill that the contacts on the PCB will eventually wear out and rub off it's happened before with modern controllers and it wears out easily this is a sad part for me I would have liked them to have went with something a bit better but honestly with physical buttons this would have even been a bad idea as for the old controllers they used a physical contact and it wore out as well but you could remove the plastic layer rebend the contacts and then reattach them as if nothing ever happened sometimes this worked but with this there is no method they wear out they wear out. Honestly the loading time that you're seeing on the screen there is depending upon the game because what is happening is the system is caching the game from the cartridge onto the system and after it cashes it then it loads the ROM that is just been copied from the cartridge onto the system So depending upon the game size depends upon your wait time keep in mind folks it's an emulator but this could have potential on backing up games if there's a way that modders could be able to get into the system itself and as I said before there was an SD card slot think about this there might be a way to dump ROMS.
Can't wait to see what the Modding community comes up with for this. You are correct about the controller, enough though I REALLY like it, this wasn't a modern upgrade, but feels very authentic - Thank you for the comment! Hope you can check out my Retro Gaming channel also ua-cam.com/users/StevesRetroGaming
Great video, got one of these delivered a couple of days ago, a personal favourite of mine is 'Video Pinball,' which I know from playing lots, many years ago.
LOVE Video Pinball, played it a ton, back in the day!!! Thank you for the comment!
Thought i share this console is designed to be “hot swappable” unlike the original 2600, you can just unplug the cartridge and it takes you back to the loading game screen, where you can plug in another cartridge
I didn't notice that, But there are no manuals or instructions with this - except the hook ups that no one needed - How do you think they would to a bios update? Thank you for the comment!
No problem, excellent video by the way. Being a rockchip based device, like the flashback units. You would be able to update the firmware using that same (or similar) program.
The USB C port on the back of the console actually uses the same bus as that Micro USB you saw when tearing down the unit. So if you boot the console into recovery mode, the Flash can be rewritten with whatever emulator updates and QoL fixes that are needed.
Very nice tear down. Do the joysticks weigh the same? The flashback controllers are light and the Hyperkin Trooper is heavy and has 2 buttons.
Ohhhh, I should've weight them, BUT holding the new joysticks it sure feels like the original and it feels GOOD!!! Thank you for the comment!
This thing is too cool. I liked how clean everything was inside. Great video.
Thank you for watching..
It's brand new. I'd hope it's clean
I'm curious what you would see if you plugged into the USB connection on the board.
OH, that is very interesting, I bet a few people have tried that by now. Great idea! Thank you for the comment!
The interesting thing is that on the back of the board you removed it looks like it has the footprint for an SD card reader socket. I bet if you soldered one on there you could load roms onto it and it'd play them.
What is inside the 10-in-1 cartridge? I'm curious which EPROM/flash ROM they did use. Atari likely sells enough of these systems to be significant and push the manufacturer to keep the legacy ROM in production, which might benefit the rest of the retro computing world.
Oh, for that one, I would have to destroy the label to open it. But that's a great question and only a matter of time until someone does that video. Thank you for the comment!
Zero percent chance they used an EPROM.
@@gordonshumway7465 They have no choice other than using a tradional parallel ROM (can be either flash or EPROM), otherwise the cartridge will not work on an original 2600, and it does work perfectly. Also, the DIP switches are a clear sign there is a traditional parallel ROM inside the cartridge.
Thanks for this content. =]
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Are you getting the 2600+ paddles?
I didn't have plans for the paddles, because I have so many sets of original ones in the basement. BUT you never know - Thank you for the comment!
Great video
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Best Teardown ! Motherboard same raspberry
why did not you dissembled it , so we can see the switches and the slot :( ?
I wasn't interested in the switches, they where not anything special - Thank you for the comment!
I tried plugging Sega Genesis / Mega Drive controllers but it doesn't work 😢
Wait they work on the Original 2600 don't they? That's interesting - Thank you for the comment!
i use have original atari 2600 now have atari 2600 flashback Gold seens it came out
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5 bucks to make and 129 msrp. Incredible
The American way. If I could turn $5 into $120 I would be one very happy person!! Thank you for the comment!
My new atari paddles that I optionally bought do jitter and cannot access potentiometer like the old ones that I fixed. Anybody same? How the hell access the micro small potientometer?
whats the specs on that rockchip? could it emulate playstation games?
The specs are on the side of the box: Rockchip 3128 SOC = here is more info on that chip: rockchip.wikidot.com/rk3128
many thanks kind sir!🎉
So it’s really just an emulator. Like a Raspberry Pi or a Pandoras Box. A shame really. I wish it was an FPGA.
YES, the 20 second load time is so horrible, especially when I have so many 2600 units in my basement - My 7800 stopped working so, this serves that purpose for me - Thank you for the comment!
But what does that micro USB port on the motherboard do? I would have plugged it into a computer to see if it does anything.
Probably for updating the firmware.
I really wonder how will they do updates? Will there be any? Will people mind having to open the machine to do an update? OK only 4 screws to open - Thank you for the comment!