Ranking The Zappa Albums
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- Frank Zappa is a legend and he left us with so much great music: over 200 albums!!! So how to approach this monster discography? Very carefully!!! This episode took 18 months to deliver but HERE IT IS!!! The 25 best Zappa albums!!! #prog #progrock #zappa
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Zappa in new york (40th anniversary)
The best band you never heard in your life,
Well done! Great research too.
It’s all too much!!!! Zappa!!!
Civilization Phaze III
His orchestral+synclavier are the ones to hit if you're a true prog head. Everybody loves Zappa's jazzrock, but the gems are in his orchestra writing.
You know what's up
Really appreciate an attempt to not only go through, but rank the Zappa albums - Not only are there way too many albums to go through, but such a diversity in styles! Love this dive into the catalogue.
It took me 18 months to figure out how to honor his work. What a genius.
16:35 "A guy named Ralph Humphrey" LOL
R.I.P. to one of the greatest drummers ever - and a fantastic human being, taboot.
He was awesome!!!
My first was FREAKOUT at 14 in 1970, the song "IT CANT HAPPEN HERE" at the apartment of my Hippie Biology teachers home while he was rebuilding his Triumph motorcycle in the living room. I was young and naive, and the whole scene was surreal & blew my mind. Then saw him in 74 at his peak with the ultimate lineup of OVERNIGHT from the 2nd row at an auditorium on LSD. It was so intense that it changed my life. Then again, in 76 with ZOOT ALLURES. Feeling blessed.
Zappa in 1974? OMG!!! So jealous…
Carolina Hardcore Ecstacy
You are crazy but I could agree... thanks so much for this... great entry my fiend
A little crazy.😜😜😜
Hellz yeeee Zappaaaa!! Been looking forward to this vid! 🥳🥳
Indeed!!!!!!
Thanks for attempting the impossible, Zappa gave us so much great stuff from which to choose. Depending upon my mood I could pick from fifteen or so as my favorite.
His discography’s insanely good. Perhaps the most rich and diverse of any other artist.
Great show, so many incredible records, and so many to discover. Overnite-sensation holds a special place to me, mostly because of my two favorite guitar solos of all the time, the ones present in Zombie Woof and Montana, wow Frank Zappa was on another level, those solos sounds so unique.
FZ was an unfathomable genius.
Awesome list! I’ve listened to all of the Zappa albums that were released during his lifetime, and can say that my top 3 albums are the same as your list, which is a bit surprising because all three of those albums are of completely different styles. It starts to be nit-picky, but two albums that would be in my top 25 are Broadway The Hard Way and Fillmore East. Even if some of the songs on Broadway The Hard Way have dated lyrics, the funny and scathing humor still stand up for me and that 1988 tour band is just fantastic. For Fillmore East, I seem to enjoy the humor of Flo & Eddie more than most people, and this album hit their peak for me.
Great episode, cheers.
Thank you!!!
You did what I certainly could never do man. Cheers and hats off to you!! GREAT video
Toughest ranking yet!!!
Man, I love your enthusiasm! Just listening to you go through the albums... I felt as if i was sitting on the dock with my feet in the water with a fresh glass of lemonade smoking a doobie. I am in s great frame of mind. Thank you!
What is the name of the sing where they be singing how this girl stole George Duke watch?
"It was a Timeax too...."
Advance Romance!!!!! Bongo Fury!!!!
Good times, Uncle Frank(RIP) is here. Joe's Garage is my #1, but, numerous masterpieces to choose from
Absolutely!!!!
Enjoyed it very much Scot. Your 25 and 24 picks I have actually not given a listen as of today based mostly on reviews I've been checking out since 1996 (first time I had access to a computer with internet). I'll give them their due time of day. Your top five include three of my top five, so I feel honored.
Nice!!!! FZ forever!!!!
Great list, and really helpful for me. I've always liked the outrageousness and diversity of what he does, but have never done a deep dive into the vastness of Zappa's albums. There's only a half dozen or so that I really know well, so this provides some great guidelines for where to explore next. Really cool
That’s the idea!!!!
This is a DIFFICULT undertaking. My top 5 are:
5. Freak Out!
4. Waka/Jawaka
3. 200 Motels
2. We’re Only In It For The Money/Lumpy Gravy (BOTH)
1. Uncle Meat
Uncle Meat!!!
Excellent ranking! The first time I heard a Zappa album was when I bought One Size Fits All in 1975. Pretty good album to start with... I think besides that album my favorites are Bongo Fury, Hot Rats and We're Only In It For The Money and The Grand Wazoo. I'm glad you gave his later albums another chance, as I feel they are a bit underrated.
I just watched your Zappa episode!!!
Love Bongo Fury!👍🎸
Oh yeah!
Bro idk who you are but you seem like a cool guy! Instantly subscribed! Love from Germany!
Also I don’t really know Zappa, but have listened to Joe’s garage religiously!
That’s a great place to start!!! And thank you!!!! 🇩🇪🇺🇸🇩🇪🇺🇸❤️❤️❤️
Well done!!! If it were me, I'd try to squeeze Yellow Shark in there, but damn it'd be hard to do! Guess I'd have to make a Top 26 list. 🙂
Yellow Shark and Just Another Band were probably my 26 and 27. And then we have all the live albums. Too much greatness!!!
Excellent list!!! "One size fits all" is my favourite album too!!! I only miss "Cruisin' with Ruben and the Jets" 1968. You did a Great job!!!
That’s a cool album!!! I probably should have squeezed it in there somewhere but Frank had soooooo many albums I love!!!
you're a legend brother !!!
Thank you!!! 👍❤️
Great energy, maaaaan! ;-) I totally agree with your statement 'Money' is one the best albums ever but my absolute favourite is 'One Size Fits All' as well!
Nice!!! You obviously have excellent taste!!! 👍❤️❤️
Nice one, any top 10, 20, is a difficult task, but you've pretty highlighted the album's key songs and quirks. Even song wise I definitely feel ya! Cheers
Thank you!!!!! I don’t really prepare too much - I just talk about records I like!!!!
Got to see him live in 76. I think I was thirteen when I got my first copy of Overnight Sensations and that was all I needed to form a life long appreciation for him and his band. Any order would have been correct. I really appreciate you making sure the line up for each album got credit. Nice touch.
With so many different eras I thought that was actually kinda the best way to describe the music as well. And one can never say “Jimmy Carl Black” too often.
My best friend's younger brother, the surfer dude, pulled an album out of his International Scout and showed it to me. It was Apostrophe. Fifteen minutes later I was mesmerized about Don't Eat The Yellow Snow.
I appreciate your time and effort, Scot, that went into this one. Thanks for that! Can't wait for your rankings of Captain Beefheart!
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Yes!!! A Beefheart ranking!!! That will be fun.
@@TheProgCorner 🐐!!
Great work, you've certainly earned your money with this labour! I saw Zappa in '88 and it was his bloody orchestral stuff which to be Frank wasn't what we wanted.
He was too smart for his own good at times!!!
Great video scot I love Zappa anything to do with him glad to see one size fits all as number one it's probably his most consistent lp. And I forgot how great were only in it for the money really is probably the greatest concept album ever I could go on and on about Zappa's output but I'll end it here thanks again
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Great video Scot, don't know enough about Zappa but love Hot Rats, Waka Jawaka but could never get One Size Fits All x
Really? Yeah, his music is going to be hit or miss for all but the extreme diehards!!!
Absolutely BRILLIANT!!
Zappa rules!!! Still.
My favourite Zappa albums: the trilogy of Overnite Sensation, Apostrophe & One Size Fits All. My favourite Mothers band. Also:We're Only In It For The Money is the one I turn to the most. Cheers.
Nice!!!!
I just came across this video via a random recommendation. I then watched it to just to get angry that you didn't rank Hot Rats and One size Fits All (one of the greatest albums of al time) high enough. Feel a bit silly now. Great job! Subscribed.
Perfect!!!! That is awesome. Thanks!!!!!!
Great ranking man. You handled his massive catalog perfectly and I can’t disagree. I also dig Zoot Allures a lot. My favorite is Joe’s Garage. My babysitter got me into Zappa via this album in ‘79.
Awesome babysitter!!!!
Frank Zappa wlth those 43 studio albums,is not easy to make a favourite pick theirs a lot of excelente albums.Great excelent review Scott we enjoy it.👍
THANK YOU!!! 👍❤️
Don't eat the yellow snow! 😂😂
The Eskimos know…
Spot on. I have almost every one of these albums.
Awesome!!! Any Zappa fan is welcome here!!!
Great selection Scot! it's not easy to select the best albums of FZ's HUGE discography, but my favorite Zappa album will always be the triple LP Shut up and play yer guitar, amazing guitar work by FZ, Steve Vai and co, as well as great drumming by Terry Bozzio, Vinnie Colaiuta and others...
Amazing stuff!!! Love instrumental Zappa!
My top 15:
1. Hot rats
2. One size fits all
3. Overnite sensation
4. Joe's garage
5. Apostrophe
6. The grand wazoo
7. Sheik Yerbouti
8. Zoot Allures
9. Waka Jawaka
10. Burnt weeny sandwich
11. The yellow shark
12. Bongo Fury
13. The man from Utopia
14. You are what you is
15. Ship arriving too late
Fantastic!!! Long live FZ.
You didn't put Studio Tan and Sleep Dirt I in that list
And 200 motels !!!
And we're only In it for the money !!
And weasels !! And burnt weeny !! And uncle meat !! And absolutely free !!
Good shirt, and good video. Hey, Frank Zappa is releasing albums from the hereafter. Weasels Ripped My Flesh gets special mention for me because it permanently warped me as a kid when I saw that cover in a record store in the 1970's.
That could do it!!!
Great list! In general, I like all these 25 albums, maybe Apostrophe' a little less, but it's my quirk. 👍
We all have that pressure point album…
Among the others amazing Zappa stuff:
- YCDTOSA vol 2
- Road tapes venue 2 the Helsinki concert
- Zappa in New York
- Jazz from hell
- Orchestral favourites
Jazz From Hell should have garnered at least a mention from me!!!!
I usually have a shopping list after watching your videos. Not this time. I was able to sit back and relax and am completely satisfied with the top 25.
Zappa is my favourite artist of all time. I've been a fan since 1984, still learning new things about him and his work and somehow still don't have all the albums. My top 3 albums are Ship Arriving Too Late to Save a Drowning Witch, Roxy & Elswhere and Lumpy Gravy, all of which are also in your list. You could easily make another top 25 with other albums. It wouldn't be any worse.
Yeah, the next 25 are almost as good. I’ve been a fan since 1968 and I too am still learning about him and his genius.
GREAT 👍 list totally agree with you on no 1 zappa rock's
Zappa forever!!!!
@@TheProgCorner The most of the time, I was wondering, »why did he left out, One size fits all?« It is, by any means more consistent than Hot Rats.
Scot I gotta agree with you - Brown Shoes Don't Make It is my favorite Zappa song by 2 miles.
What would you do, Daddy?
@@TheProgCorner
Cover that girl in chocolate syrup and boogie till the cows come home.
Epic...
My mind was Blown the first time I heard One Size Fits All from start to finish!!!The musicianship is off the charts and every song is a blast!!!
It still blows my mind!!!!
I think Sheik Yerbouti was kind of like King Crimson's Starless and Bible Black in that most of the crowd noise was mixed out. As such, neither was ever marketed as a live album as far as I know.
No they weren’t and I know I was surprised that so much of Starless And Bible Black was recorded live!!!
Love both these records!!!👍
This video's existence gives me hope that you'll rank the Peter Hammill albums!
It’s gonna happen!!! (Still a few I need to hear…)
My older brothers had the 1st Mothers albums so I got to the hear all those records around 7 years old! "Freak Out" has a real nostalgia pull for me, but "Joe's Garage" is probably my favorite.
What an amazing artist Zappa was!!!
Is that a real poncho, or is that a Sears poncho?
Really? No foolin'?
The top two on here showcase unique genius ...... hard to come to grips with the massive discography (and still expanding!) but Scot, The Professor of Prog, pulls it off.
Brilliant.
Zappa!!!!
Love Zappa. Could only afford select titles though. It doesn't matter though, because when I reach for Zappa it almost always ends up being Overnite Sensation. I absolutely treasure this disc.
Amazing record!!!!! Timeless genius.
i agreed so much with your top !!! thanks thanks one size fits all is one of the best record EVER !!
Agreed!!!!! 👍👍👍
Difficult to rank. I've been listening since 1969 and hear new things in his music all the time. I think you've done a really great job and makes me want to listen to some stuff I've maybe ignored for awhile.
Doing this ranking “forced” me to re-listen to some albums for the first time in years!!! A lot of fun. A lot of memories!!!
Good list! Zoot allures is in the top25 and Joe's garage is top10, good!
Yes sir!!! 👍👍👍
My jaw dropped a bit when I saw you were attempting to rank Zappa's albums and a top 25 makes sense. Woe to anyone who would attempt to rank his whole catalogue, even if it IS just his studio stuff. The problem for me is I ONLY have like 20 of his albums and am only passingly familiar with about 20 others. There's still a few I have never even heard more than background music once or twice at someone else's house etc. Just doing a top 10 is hard enough for me, the order is fluid except for maybe the top 3:
10. Sleep Dirt
9. Absolutely Free
8. Overnite Sensation
7. Freak Out
6. Joe's Garage
5. The Man From Utopia (Yes I even love The Radio Is Broken et al.)
4. Apostrophe
3. You Are What You Is
2. We're Only In It For the Money
1. One Size Fits All (His proggiest album!)
I’m not a Zappa expert but I am a fan!!! Yeah, this was HARD!!!
Great list!👍👍 I just can't see a world where Sheik could not be in someone's top ten though.😁
@@chriskarley384 Yeah I don't really disagree, it's the next album on my list. Would totally be #11 for me. It was actually the first Zappa album I ever owned or really listened to
@@chriskarley384 I kinda ranked these based on my own tendency to pick up and put on an album, and these others just happen to be the ones I grab first. Perhaps it is because I have listened to the Sheik so much in the past I'm a little over it?
Hey Scot..it’s Big Brother time!!! I love Frank Zappa..Bongo Fury is top five for me..I love Sleep Dirt too..my top ten would be 1/Hot Rats 2/Absolutely Free 3/ Apostrophe 4/ Bongo Fury 5/ Waka Jawaka 6/ Grand Wazoo 7/Freak Out 8/ Burnt Weeny Sandwich 9/ We’re Only In It For The Money 10/ Overnite Sensation..loved this video❤❤❤👍✌glen
Wow!!! An excellent Top Ten!!!!
The Burnt Sandwich is definitely in my top 5, absolutely love it!
Such a fun record. I love the original Mothers. Nothing like it. Before or since.
Honestly, I couldn’t possibly rank Zappa’s albums only because I’ve only heard less than half of them 😆.
But I always have appreciated his bold, creativity and sense of humor enough to own at least 8 of his, which only scratches the surface of what he accomplished. So I thought I’d weigh in with my favorites anyway. Hot Rats, Apostrophe and Joe’s Garage are my top 3. Also have The Grand Wazoo on vinyl. I really need to listen to that one more often. But I’m right on par with most of your favorites Scot. Great countdown man !
What an incredible artist Zappa was!!!
@TheProgCorner
Absolutely ! And there could never be anyone else like him. Not even close. But I also wanted to mention that I'm a big fan of Jean Luc Ponte.
I got into his solo work years ago.
He's become one of my favorite instrumental artists of all time. Love to see a ranking of his albums some time. 👍
I can see that happening.
@@TheProgCorner
Awesome !!
I loved them all, from the Beijing on up
Almost impossible to rank Zappa's catalogue...even his most disposable album is interesting. Your ranking is as expected, my only raised eyebrow was the relatively low ranking of Roxy & Elsewhere, which would hover around #3 in my list.
Yeah, it should have been ranked higher. I agree. 👍👍👍
Do you like his live album Zappa in New York from 1978?
I wanted to include more of his live albums!!! And that’s the one. Great album!!! 👍👍👍
Uncle Meat’s my all time fave Mothers record, but literally everything The Mothers put out was absolutely out of this world! Especially considering the time, who was doing stuff like that in the ‘60s?! No one! Only The Mothers 🤯🙏 🥰 We’re Only In It For The Money might be a mighty close second fave!! I’d put Lumpy Gravy up there too with the greatness of The Mothers era. As incredible as Zappa still was after he fired the band, it never got quite as mind blowing as The Mothers imo. His big band stuff is right next for my second fave stuff of his, Hot Rats, The Grand Wazoo, Waka/Jawaka, etc. those albums were so important to me as a musician as a teen. So many great albums tho! Literally one of my biggest musical heroes, as a musician myself! Wish I coulda gotten the chance to see him live, but alas I was 3 years old when he died 😫😅 I did get a chance to see Dweezil with his Zappa Plays Zappa thing he used to do. Saw em live twice. Fucking incredible! God, love me some Zappa so much 🥰🥰
Anyhoo, great list Scot! And as a wise man once said:
“A moonbeam through the prune in June
Reveals your chest, I see your lovely beans
And in that magic go-kart, I bite your neck
The cheese I have for you, my dear, is real and very new
New cheese”
I’m kinda with you about the original Mothers. Something so wrong about it that it was just right!!!!
@@TheProgCornerdunno if you ever checked out the documentary “Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention: In the 1960's”? Highly recommend if not! Really great doc about the band in that era.
I don’t think I’ve seen that.
I love Bongo Fury, one of my favorites.
Amazing record!!! I love Captain Beefheart.
WHAT. No just another Band from LA or Live at the Filmore? They would be in my top 5
Billy The Mountain!!!
Girl you thought he was a man but he was a muffin.. lol Awesome video Scot! I love the compilation album Cheap Thrills! :) 💗📀☮️
Good one!!! So many great albums I had to leave off!!! Mothers Of Prevention and Orchestral Favorites come to mind…
@@TheProgCorner Yeah Zappa's discography is insane! Amazing how many albums he put out! Hope you are well Scot! Love your videos! Peace! :)☮️📀💗
Thanks!!!!!
Hey scott you probably know that the cover from the man from utopia was created in 82' by Tanino Liberatore who created ranxerox as well in 81' very good comic may be you got some in us ....;-))
Love that artwork but I never got into comics…
Hot Rats is Zappa,s Masterpiece.
Indeed it is!!! Indeed it is.
We’re Only in It for the Money. Would be my fav. pick
Definitely my personal favorite. But you know how I do - it’s all about the nose bleed seats…
@@TheProgCorner I know !
This could go in a lot of different directions but I still go to that awesome original LP release of Sleep Dirt. One of my maybe-top-5 rekkids of all time, any genre.
I'd also give a shout out to his mid-80s and early 90s output. I love FZ Meets The MOP, Jazz From Hell (yes, Jazz From Hell!), Broadway The Hard Way, The Yellow Shark, etc.
FZ is sorely missed in other ways as well. The modern world could use a good dose of FZ's wit and wisdom.
We could use Frank right about now!!!
Ha! Look at that! Built To Spill in the corner! Nice 👍🏼
That was just for you!!! Hoping to drive some views to your brilliant three part Built To Spill reaction!!! Keep It Like A Secret!!! But Perfect From Now On is just as good and a little proggy at times. What a band.
@@TheProgCorner thanks buddy! See? I’m watching, even while away on holiday! Special thanks too for my mention on your video today, the best prog channels on UA-cam. Appreciate it so much! We really REALLY must get a video done together.
We will. I think we haven’t yet because it’s so obvious that it will work…but yeah. I have some ideas. Shocker!!!
Studio tan and sleep dirt should be in the top 10 at least. Those alhums are masterpieces
I probably ranked both a little low!!!
a real italian genius
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I worship Frank Zappas music Frank Zappa's the greatest
So good!!!
I know 'em all! My list for today: OS, ('), Roxy, WOIIFTM, Hot Rats, Läther, SUNPYG, Yellow Shark, TBYNHIYL, Halloween, Lumpy Gravy, Freak Out! and I could go on... Grand Wazoo, Guitar, CPIII, YCDTOSA Vol 6
Yellow Shark!!!! I regret excluding that one.
Nice thing about Zappa's discography is that everyone will have a totally different top 25 from the next guy as the records are so stylistically different from each other. I'd be tempted to have 'Guitar' or one of the 'Shut Up' series as his best but I'd have 'Ship Arriving Too Late' and 'Man from Utopia' higher than you, Scot, and I'd have 'We're Only in it' nowhere! No right answers, no wrong answers though I think most will agree that Joe's Garage, Hot Rats and Apostrophe will be near the top.
His discography is so amazing!!! It was an impossible task!!!
Absolutely agree about We're Only In It For The Money. Definitely my favorite Zappa! Where did Annie go when she went to town? Who are all those freaks that she brings around???
There may come a time when you can even take your clothes off when you dance. Oh Frank. We need you now more than ever…
I have just received One Size Fits All in the mail. Not listened to it yet. Excited.
Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah !!!!!!!!!!!
It’s about time!!!
@@TheProgCorner Indeed !
I think I'd have ranked "shut up and play your guitar" at #1. Otherwise seems close to my list."studio tan"is ranked higher on my list also
Studio Tan ended up a bit too low on my list. Definitely could have been Top 10.
Can't belive Freak Out not higher, a absolute classic. Same goes for Weasels, love that one, so unique
His catalog is ridiculous!!!
Man from utopía it's a one of My favoryte album ever,.
Zappa it's Unique, Fzliveforever..🎩
There will never be another FZ!!!
I've been a Zappa fan since 1967 and that is his worst.
Z... hell, yea.
Peace on earth.
respect to sleep dirt, my favorite zappa album...
Really? That’s awesome. What a great little record.
pretty decent list. I bought Freak Out & Absolutely Free on the same day back in 1968
A very good day!!!
YOU PAID FOR ABSOLUTELY FREE!!?? WHY!???😋
Because “We’re Only In It For The Money.”
Roxy only at 12? It's one of the best live albums ever!
Yeah, perhaps a little low…
"Jazz Discharge Party Hats" is great imo
Yes!!!
Actually, it's really just funny, musically it's not very good@@TheProgCorner
Even better is The dangerous kitchen.
it's pronounced shake yer bootie not sheek. good job. I liked it I couldn't figure out which would be first.
I fall into Zappa’s pun every time.
I have at least a dozen Zappa albums and am apparently still missing many "must haves."
So many GREAT records!!!!
Go and listen to "Fillmore East 71" - i'll wait 😊
The Mothers 73'/76' + Wazoo Orchestra pair + Hot Rats
Inca roads and pajama people are my favorite songs on one size fits all
Inca Roads!!!!!
@TheProgCorner Park it !!! Park it !!!!!
"Brown Shoes Don't Make It" is your fave Zappa song but I don't recall it in the 10 best songs vid
It’s definitely my favorite Zappa song …
TV dinner by the pool, watch your brother grow a beard......
Be a jerk and go to work....
A question. Why do you think that Frank Zappa had very little success in the UK? 1 top ten album and only 2 in the top 50. I have had very little exposure to his work and it was never something I encountered growing up in England. Why?
A very good question. He is quintessentially American.Maybe his zaniness didn’t translate???
@@TheProgCorner Likely so. My first exposure to Zappa was seeing the 200 Motels movie and I didn't like either the film or the music - the humor didn't translate (and wasn't even spelled properly! It's humour, my US buddies! 😉) Once I heard the guitar-centric stuff later though, I was hooked.
The goofy humor is my least favorite part of Zappa’s schtick…
Most likely cuz brits have more sense than us.
Chungas Revenge is actually my favorite ✌🏼🎧
I love it!!!
Listening to You Are What You Is for the first time now, loving it 😆. Always meant to check it out.
It gets a bad rap but it’s actually awesome!!!!
Chunga's revenge was a better introduction to Zappa for me than Hot Rats
Hey Scot! So you're saying Frank has a lot of music? Yes he does. Saw him on campus in 1980. Jeff Beck was the following Saturday. Saw some great bands at SIU. Later dude.🔈🔉🔊😎
Wow!!! So awesome. Those were good days.
@@TheProgCorner YES, yes they were!😎
Carbondale? Wow what cool acts to land in that college town
We never got any cool bands play at my community college!!! 🤣
@@kevtruth Good old Carbondale! The best Halloween party down the main strip with over 10,000 of your best friends. Probably closer to 20,000!😎
Is Captain Beefheart related to Uncle Meat?
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Hot Ratz the Goat !!!!!
You consider one size fits all his best album?
My sentimental favorite is We’re Only In It For The Money but I know One Size Fits All is his masterpiece!!!
Yes. For me it is his best.
Yeah one size fits all is great I worship Frank Zappas music
@TheProgCorner we're only In it for the money's a total masterpiece
@@TheProgCorner do u have Sleep Dirt and Studio Tan also?
decent list, though i personally would put bongo fury about 20 places higher..
Muffin Man!!!!