Nice job Chuck. Its refreshing to see a nice simple review without a lot of drawn out gameplay etc. I have a Mini, a friend sent me TheC64 Maxi from UK, and I per-ordered the VIC from AmazonUK. You're helping build the anticipation :) BTW, I think its great what Retro Games has done and is doing. I'll keep ordering whatever they make ;)
Both the Vic 20 and C64 are from way before I was ever born, but I did have one of those C64 on a chip plug and plays as a kid. Personally I find the Vic 20 to be interesting and something I've wanted to see more of
On THEC64 and THEVIC20, you can map the keyboard to the joystick. This means that you could map Lunar Lander to a joystick if it doesn't work with a joystick on the original version.
18:35 just about sums it up. I still watched the full review though. Whether you'd go for this or the THEC64 might depend on what you had as a kid. Different trim, different memories. Same overall performance now really. Springing for both would be kind of redundant unless you were decorating a set or something, but between this and the THEC64, it's nice to have options.
Part of the reason why THEVIC20 is a European-only release is because the VIC-20 games on the Carousel better reflect the European gaming scene (or more specifically the British and Irish gaming scene) circa. 1982 - 1984.
Thanks for the review ! I just ordered one. I'm curious to see how the old word processors looks like. We have one of this in school in the mid eighties. It will bring back good old memories.
Oh! I see Telengard on there! Someone watched my video last week... I am hoping the VIC-20 comes to the USA soon. I know I could get the C64 on November 5th... But that VIC-20 is just so lovely!
I'm torn about my sentiment on this. I was first really happy to see the memory of the VIC-20 was being kept alive, but as the video progressed and saw that it's pretty much a façade like any software-based simulator my enthusiasm faded a bit. Still, thanks for the heads-up about these being out there.
Plus, just calling it "The VIC-20" is very, very problematic. I never understand why these silly "reboots" can't come up with unique names. At least it's not a miniaturisation like so many other "reboots" though.
Amazon UK, perhaps. If not there then they are probably sold out. Was meant to be a limited item. 'The C64' has the same features but of course doesn't look like a VIC20
I looked, have the C64 already but really like the look of this one, and the controller, I'm also looking for an American edition of the Atari 2600+ that just came out, can only find it in the UK
Hello Chuck. Please how did you make the "super expander" to work? According to the documentation I've tried different suffixes like _MVTPB1B2, _MVTPB0 and so on but I keep having problems with the memory. Each time I type a SE command, like "sound" or "graphics" or "color" I obtain an "out of memory" and the FRE(X) function does not return the matching value displayed on the screen. It changes from 3583 to other values and that makes me guess that the suffix is correct but the VIC20 seems not able to use it correctly. Please would you provide the link of the SE.prg (if possible) or tell me how did you renamed the file? Thank you very much
@@HutchCA thank you very much, it works! Now gotta look for a tool to convert all the a0 and prg to crt. By the way, I've tried with the tap files too but for what I see, there's no Record key available, just play, ff, rew and stop. What a mess. I'm forced to use d64 to save my programs.
Hi, Retro Games, Ltd. I have even less interest in The VIC20 than The C64. When are you releasing The Amiga 600. An A600 can be emulated at full speed using exactly the same hardware you're using in The VIC20 and The C64.
Serial number #15, very nice!
Nice job Chuck. Its refreshing to see a nice simple review without a lot of drawn out gameplay etc. I have a Mini, a friend sent me TheC64 Maxi from UK, and I per-ordered the VIC from AmazonUK. You're helping build the anticipation :)
BTW, I think its great what Retro Games has done and is doing. I'll keep ordering whatever they make ;)
THEVIC20 comes 40 years to the month of the initial VIC-1001 release in Japan by Commodore
Both the Vic 20 and C64 are from way before I was ever born, but I did have one of those C64 on a chip plug and plays as a kid. Personally I find the Vic 20 to be interesting and something I've wanted to see more of
On THEC64 and THEVIC20, you can map the keyboard to the joystick. This means that you could map Lunar Lander to a joystick if it doesn't work with a joystick on the original version.
18:35 just about sums it up. I still watched the full review though. Whether you'd go for this or the THEC64 might depend on what you had as a kid. Different trim, different memories. Same overall performance now really. Springing for both would be kind of redundant unless you were decorating a set or something, but between this and the THEC64, it's nice to have options.
Very pleased how this pre-release model turned out. Looking forward to getting my chops on this in a few weeks. :) Thanks for sharing.
Great review. Looking forward to getting mine soon. You got to love its look!
Got mine pre-ordered since the announcement .. Great review and cannot wait :)
I pre-ordered some time ago. Can't wait to get it...
Part of the reason why THEVIC20 is a European-only release is because the VIC-20 games on the Carousel better reflect the European gaming scene (or more specifically the British and Irish gaming scene) circa. 1982 - 1984.
We area only starting to get the C64 in the US. I pre-ordered one from Amazon to release on November 5th.
Thanks for the review ! I just ordered one. I'm curious to see how the old word processors looks like. We have one of this in school in the mid eighties. It will bring back good old memories.
I wanted to ask is it limited time production
I have the C64 maxi. Awesome device. Would be amazing if they sell the VIC20 joystick seperately.
Can't wait for the Amiga mini to come . Are you getting one ?
I’d definitely get one if I didn’t already build a Pic-20 with Keyrah.
Oh! I see Telengard on there! Someone watched my video last week...
I am hoping the VIC-20 comes to the USA soon. I know I could get the C64 on November 5th... But that VIC-20 is just so lovely!
@@HutchCA it is a really addictive game. I can sink hours into it, just trying to get a bit more powerful...
Great video!
yeee the 0 key is not centered
Can't figure out how to connect to tv
I have the new Vic20...Where can I download the archives of your Usb? In an exact way...thks so much!!!
I'm torn about my sentiment on this. I was first really happy to see the memory of the VIC-20 was being kept alive, but as the video progressed and saw that it's pretty much a façade like any software-based simulator my enthusiasm faded a bit. Still, thanks for the heads-up about these being out there.
Plus, just calling it "The VIC-20" is very, very problematic. I never understand why these silly "reboots" can't come up with unique names.
At least it's not a miniaturisation like so many other "reboots" though.
Missing cassette input port, missing cartridge input slot, missing modem input port etc.
Can you still find these anywhere, I have been looking for the Vic 20 edition?
Amazon UK, perhaps. If not there then they are probably sold out. Was meant to be a limited item. 'The C64' has the same features but of course doesn't look like a VIC20
I looked, have the C64 already but really like the look of this one, and the controller, I'm also looking for an American edition of the Atari 2600+ that just came out, can only find it in the UK
You can buy a printed copy of popular retro?
@@HutchCA very cool!
is it possible to add new games / roms to this? 🤔 and are there any 2p games to nerd a second joystick 🕹
The VIC-20 only had one joystick port. I'm not aware of any two-joystick games.
You can load any VIC-20 program or ROM from USB drive, as I do in the video @09:19
Hello Chuck. Please how did you make the "super expander" to work? According to the documentation I've tried different suffixes like _MVTPB1B2, _MVTPB0 and so on but I keep having problems with the memory. Each time I type a SE command, like "sound" or "graphics" or "color" I obtain an "out of memory" and the FRE(X) function does not return the matching value displayed on the screen.
It changes from 3583 to other values and that makes me guess that the suffix is correct but the VIC20 seems not able to use it correctly.
Please would you provide the link of the SE.prg (if possible) or tell me how did you renamed the file?
Thank you very much
@@HutchCA thank you very much, it works! Now gotta look for a tool to convert all the a0 and prg to crt. By the way, I've tried with the tap files too but for what I see, there's no Record key available, just play, ff, rew and stop. What a mess. I'm forced to use d64 to save my programs.
Chuck, I see you rename Super Expander but not the other files. How do those work without the _MVTN etc?
@@rollingstone7160 you can find the details onto this manual
retrogames.biz/thec64/support/manuals-thec64
I’m pretty sure we will never see these in NA in appreciable quantities. Oh well.
Which model has more built in games?
Chuck Hutchins I never had a C64 but the VIC was my first computer and I really want one of these. Thanks for the show and tell.
The Joystick. LOL
Hi, Retro Games, Ltd. I have even less interest in The VIC20 than The C64. When are you releasing The Amiga 600. An A600 can be emulated at full speed using exactly the same hardware you're using in The VIC20 and The C64.
That's more love for the A600 than it got back in the day. ;-)
My dad came home with an Amiga 2000. What a beast.
Ahh... World games, must have destroyed about 20 joysticks with that game.