Hello John, I am from the Midwest U.S.A. and the green coloring on this new master is accurate to real life. During large/dangerous tornado producing storms (we call them super cells), the green hue in the sky happens in real life during these dangerous storms. I have witnessed it many times over the decades. Love your content as always. Cheers!
That's exactly what Jan De Bont says in the new interview on the disc Bushyman. The way some had reported it to me I was expecting the whole film to have a green bias but that certainly wasn't the case. I suspect someone learned the colour palette had been changed for that one sequence from that interview and then used it for a bit of a negative review video to generate views. People seem to prefer a bit of moaning. John.
Hi John!!! Here's an example of why I like projectors so much over TVs, the natural feel of the image, especially in this type of film... it's spectacular.
Projection is cinema José. I think that's the best tagline to put to it. But I do find it's possible to make modern video projection look like the films we all used to be able to see in cinemas rather than the comparatively poor video projection most cinemas are presenting today. In other words, we're better at it at home than many of the so-called professionals. John.
John my friend and I watch every video you make. You are the only person we have found on the UA-cam that really knows his stuff when it comes to movie formats and how they are transfered to disc's. Keep up the good work. Greeting from Kingston canada. P.s your IMAX presentation from the projection booth at BFI was incredible.
Thank you Cameron. Good to have you and your friend here and good to know you liked the video with Michael Ford at the IMAX. He's got to be one of the most experienced projectionists still working anywhere in the world today. John.
It's only that one sequence. The rest of it looks almost the same as the LaserDisc but LD was an earlier technology and didn't have the colour and density capabilities of 4K and let alone film. John.
Twister is one of my favorite movies of the 90s. I saw it opening day on 35mm with SDDS sound and it was amazing! The “going green” sequence being changed doesn’t bother me because it was changed to be more accurate to what happens in reality. I have the original blu-ray (which is an awful transfer) and to me it sounds like the dialogue is clearer on the Atmos track than I remember. I owned this movie many times… laserdisc, DVD, DTS DVD, Blu-Ray and now the 4K. The 4K definitely makes up for the terrible job they did on the blu-ray. Great video! I look forward to your thoughts on Nightmare On Elm Street.
The NTSC LaserDisc was always good enough for me Anthony but a 4K disc was too tempting to ignore. I too felt the same way about the 'greenage' but the way some had gone on about it made me think the whole film had been changed. It's one sequence so even if I hadn't have liked it, it wouldn't have spoiled the film for me. John.
@@moviecollector5920 I really don't think you're looking at older films (or any films, for that matter) through rose-tinted glasses. But I thought it was humorous when you did the end of the video with the anaglyph glasses on.
Another great review, thank you John. Can’t beat those LaserDisc cover arts. I can still remember how exciting it was to see them in the Virgin Megastores in the 90s
I spent far too much money in the West End stores such as Virgin on LaserDiscs Neil. Stereo Regent Street, Tower Records and HMV all happily drained my wallet! John.
@Movie Collector thanks for reviewing this 4K that is still on my “to watch” pile. Only so many hours in a day and way too many movies I want to (re-)watch, books to read, music to listen and be a social human being. 😄 Seen Twister in cinemas back in 96 and loved it. Time to re-watch it.
It's a great film Pieter. The trouble is, there are so many great films but possibly not as many appearing these days so we may all get time to catch up as the years go on. John.
I think we all need a time machine so we can take youngster back and show them how good things used to be. Here, that would make a good movie!!! Just watch out for the Morlocks. John.
Also from midwest USA and can attest to the accuracy of the "greenage". Being 11 years old at the time this was released this was my most viewed movie in the theater, still to this day. Must have gone 6 times. A special moment recently sharing this 4K disc experience with my own children. They loved it and finally understood my enthusiasm.
It's odd that some people seem to have made a fuss about the 'greenage' but I suppose a thumbnail that looks like it's going to be a big moan fest will always generate more views so that's why. I'm not in the mid-west of the USA but heading west from London along the M4 this afternoon we were presented with angry skies that almost resembled the stormy skies portrayed in Twister. It felt like evening was closing in but then the sun came out. Sorry it took me a couple of days to reply to this. I couldn't get on-line. John.
Great review. Twister and Dante’s Peak had a strange air of miscasting around both films. Yet somehow it worked. Bill Paxton was hardly a leading man but with turns in One False Move and later Frailty proved he could hold his own with an ensemble. Seeing Hoffman in any role is a pleasure and Helen Hunt, still coming off her success on TV, did a funny nod to this movie when she was caught playing the game ‘twister’ in a Mad About You episode. Looking forward to Dante’s, the special effects were great and the film managed to squeeze a few notably dramatic scenes with the mom and Pierce, pleasantly unexpected.
I think the casting in both films contributes to their success. Particularly Bill Paxton in Twister. I've never heard of 'Mad About You' but if I had seen it I don't think I'd have missed the gag referencing back to 'Twister'. I like that sort of nonsense so thank you for making us aware of it. It probably never got shown here in Britain. John.
Great review, as always. Will be pulling the trigger to get this now. One of the dwindling few 4k releases that are still making it to Australia. Thanks, John!
It's a good one Matt. I'm not entirely sure the sound is as good as it once was but it's still brilliant because that's Twister and it would be impossible to make a complete cods of it. John.
There were some great cinema films back then Singin. A year or two later and I started to notice the decline in image quality. Thankfully, Twister did not suffer in this regard owing to being shot full frame anamorphic but in 1997 the downturn to Super 35 commenced en masse and this was to facilitate easier (i.e. faster and cheaper) computer generated animation. John.
Great John your back on and at your always best. Yeah Twister was wonderful in the cinema. I made the mistake of going to see the new version Twisters not a patch on the original only special effects sound good but the rest give me a break. Easily forgettable that one. Look forward to your Nightmare on Elm Street. Cheers and a very good evening over there. Graham.
I tried all those sort of things out in the 1990's. Good fun as a fair ground attraction but didn't think it would be my sort of thing for a cinema visit. A reinvention of what was being done on occasion by people such as William Castle in the 1950's as I recall. John.
@@moviecollector5920 In my opinion it 100% elevated the experience as far as immersion was concerned. I re-watched five movies over the course of about ten days at Leicester Square. £5 per movie instead of the regular £23 to £25 a ticket!
Excellent review, your videos always motivate me to get a BluRay Player and go headfirst into Physical Media! Loved that bit at the end with the 3D glasses, haha! Would love to see some 3D BluRay Reviews if you like that format
Morning Cloudy. I hope your latest IMAX upload is doing as well as some of your others because it deserves to. I was only thinking about you and 4K discs last night because you probably would enjoy the whole process. Getting all the equipment to start with can be a bit expensive though because to get the best out of 4K discs it needs a video projector. But apart from that and a 4K UHD Blu-ray player that would be all that is required to make a good start. If you have a wall that can be pained white then that will set you on the right path. That's all my home cinema is when you analyze it. And don't let anyone ever tell you that an expensive screen needs to be purchased because that's nonsense. The first discs to purchase would be the Christopher Nolan IMAX films. You will immediately see the superiority of image quality that the IMAX and standard 70mm sequences offer. But they do pale compared to the real McCoy 15/70 IMAX prints. However much they pale though, they still look amazing. Start with the best and even shrunk down to home video, they're still the best. Start with crap and whatever is done to that crap it's still crap at the end of it... with one possible exception that I've seen so far and that's American Graffiti but that's another story. John.
I could not be more happy that you decided to tackle this film. I have an early DVD of Twister, one that comes in the old style case with a card up front, and a clasp to close it. It's quite precious to me, as Twister is one of my favorite films. I'd like to know what you think of the follow up, Twisters as well. I've never seen Dante's Peak. Maybe I will watch it tonight.
Dante's Peak has a lot of similarities Timothy so if you don't like it I will be surprised. The NTSC LaserDiscs for both films are grrrrrrrreat. But I couldn't resist a 4K and I won't be able to for Dante's Peak either. John.
@moviecollector5920 I'd like to get my hands on the 4k of this film, especially that Zavvi edition, but who knows what will happen? I will let you know if I like Dante's Peak. Another great film that needs a 4k disc is The Day After Tomorrow. I really hope that a 4k happens.
@moviecollector5920 Hello John. I just wanted to say that I saw Dante's Peak, and I thought it was alright,..pretty good. To me, it has tonal issues. Twister is a disaster movie, but it manages to feel like an adventure throughout. With Dante's Peak, we get dramatic moments and sad moments, and borderline horrific moments. A lot of tonal shifting. Had it been more consistent with the tone, I might have liked it more. But still,it is not a bad film..very interesting, actually.
IIRC, the bit in the teaser with the car and the tractor flying towards it was originally just some test CGI ILM did to show if they could do it convincingly or not. And either the director and/or the producers were so impressed with that fragment that they put it in the teaser.
Funnily enough, that's detailed a couple of times within the extras. That sequence formed the ending to the teaser trailer and was possibly a large part of the box office success of the film. John.
Hi John, we had such good feedback about the soundtrack from the audience after playing the 35mm print this summer. We have dolby digital 5.1 here and everyone was amazed about how good it was. They came out saying they felt they had been in a real twister! Simon (Courtyard)
I think the original sound may be better than this remix Simon but it could be that my system struggled with it a little at times. The night at The Empire in 1996 was memorable but we got the NTSC LaserDisc soon after and have watched that more than most discs during the ensuing years so that's the soundtrack I know best. It was always one of the best sounding films and I would have very much liked to have been at your Courtyard picture house for the 35mm screening. It's one film I probably would not be able to resist if I was offered a 35mm print for a few hundred smackers. Good to learn that your screening went down well but I'm not surprised. John.
Great review John, I remember going to see this at the long shut Gatley cinema in south Manchester & was probably the best example of surround sound being integral to the experience of the movie, that much so that me & my friend went back a few days later to see it again, such was level it literally blew our youn minds away.
It's the wind Brookes. 'Into The Storm' is similar so if you haven't seen that one it's probably worth a try if only for the surround sound wind all over again. John.
SDDS was a really good sound system. They used their Atrac compression system which ended up on their minidisc format. It used to be part of the experience seeing movies, usually in the large screens, when the sound format trailer was played before the film. I saw Twister in DTS at the local Warner Village which had a THX screen. So....DTS trailer...then the loud THX trailer and this movie.. ahh good days...
Was that High Wycombe Quinn? At the time there were only four THX cinemas in Britain and two of them were in Leicester Square, one in High Wycombe and another which you may now be able to educate me about. SDDS was sometimes 8 channel sound but more often 6 channels. I would be able to put the kit on my Kinoton FP20 but it's a large add-on and the processor is even bigger so I'd better resist that temptation. I still have a couple of MiniDisc players. A Kenwood recorder HiFi separates and a Sony in-car player. John.
@@moviecollector5920 It was at Ellesmere Port. They had SDDS, DTS and Dolby Digital in their Screen 1, which was THX. I only saw one movie projected with Sony's format, Mission to Mars and was a bit underwhelmed with it. So..you have a reader unit and processor 😀?
I agree with the pause at the start of the movie that sets the scene. I noticed this years ago on DVD when it was released. Having a surround sound amp at the time helped notice it more as the sound transitioned to cracking to silence. To add this movie along with the matrix and Armageddon were my reference movies to show my friends the "home cinema experience". On an arctic loewe planus 32" TV, Yamaha DSP A1 and 5.1 B&W speaker's.
The Fugitive opening was the 'killer application' used by dealers when surround sound amplifiers started to take off. Twister a few years later probably did the same job with the opening sequence of that. The video quality didn't match the audio though unless you had a Super 8 print to run in locked synchronization to the VHS, LaserDisc or later DVD. Those were the days. John.
Great review, John. As others have said, the blu-ray transfer was lacking (to put it kindly). This 4k is amazing. There are subtle color timing changes throughout the film, but I agree that the changes only add to the ambiance and the tone they were clearly going for. Love the LD trip as well. There is something kind of magical about those huge discs and the artwork on the sleeves! Can’t wait for your Nightmare on Elm Street review. Haven’t picked that one up yet. Cheers.
Morning Eric. It's likely the previous releases of Twister were taken from prints and only now has the negative been transferred for a home video disc. It makes a difference. LaserDisc was the king of home video for many years. It couldn't compete with the great Super 8 releases throughout that period but LD was a darn site cheaper. If you had the same film on Super 8 and LD though the sound from the LD could be locked into the Super 8 and that gave the ultimate home cinema experience. It really was cinema in the home. John.
The anaglyph glasses I put on are actually the ones I was given at the Odeon West End (Leicester Square Theatre) on the night. There are two more in the LaserDisc but they're slightly different. John.
Saw this at my local Odeon in Gants Hill that proudly advertised how they had a refit for the new sound system, remember the cow mooing from one side of the auditorium to the other! Our minds were blown by it! Unfortunately refitting the sound system didn't stop it from closing down a couple of years later.
Top video John and I always love the Super 8 references. Looking forward to Elm St! And the 3D glasses!!! I still have a pair of those from way back in the day!
The 3D glasses are the Freddy Vision anaglyphs I was given when we went into the Odeon West End to see the film. The LD anaglyphs are almost identical and there are two of those in the gatefold. None of it improves the film though but the 3D sequence is quite impressive. It was more impressive at the cinema though. John.
You should have heard it in The Empire in 1996 Cheekster. It was like being in the storms. But that was THX at the time so a little different today and particularly now what remains of that great cinema is so compact by comparison. John.
Love the 3D glasses John! Wish I still had mine from 'Treasure of the four crowns', 'Space hunter' and 'Metalstorm The destruction of Jarred Synn' lol. Did see Twister at the new ISH at the time MGM cinema in Northampton back in 96. Think it was DTS sound. Just remember being blown away buy both sound and visuals. Will certainly pick this up. Looking forward to your review of Nightmare on Elm St. My favourite Wes Craven film.
Wifey and I were just talking about how it was possible with regard to Twister for full frame anamorphic 35mm to blend in so seamlessly with CGI in 1996 but then during the ensuing years the same process became such comparative crap. Something must have changed with regard to how computer animation was incorporated into 35mm film frames because otherwise it makes no sense. The adoption of Super 35 more generally clearly caused a reduction in general image quality but why would the CGI in so many films have stood out like a sore thumb compared to films such as Twister? It's a conundrum. I'll probably watch the 4K of A Nightmare On Elm Street on Saturday evening so if all goes to plan I'll get a review up a few days later. John.
Twister was the first title released on DVD! Many years ago. You like your old formats John, 8mm film, Laser disc! Heard the new Alien Romulus film will be the first title released on VHS in 18 years! Wow.
Twister didn't appear on DVD here first unless I'm remembering incorrectly. I think the Wallace & Gromit 'The Wrong Trousers' was the first but there were three that came out early on and I can't recall the other two. As for releasing a new VHS, good grief! But I hope it does well. If it was being issued on LaserDisc then I might be tempted. John.
Another great review. I didn't know they retrospectively made the adjustment to the sky color for the one scene. Also interesting is the difference between projection and TV display. I'm curious what 4K blu rays will look like in the future when technology has advanced even further to better process the data on the discs to render the intended image.
Blu-ray is wonderful Andy, particularly when taken from the same master as the equivalent 4K. It's just that the colour and density is comparatively limited and generally after you've watched a 4K the Blu-ray looks poor. It's not, but that's the impression it gives directly after viewing the 4K. John.
Thinking about the colour difference between your TV & projector, I seem to remember you showing us your projector once. I could be completely misremembering, but I believe it was only capable of the SRGB colour gamut as opposed to the much wider BT.2020 gamut used by 4ks (and yes Twister uses the full BT.2020 gamut not P3). Now I don't know anything about your TV but it wouldn't surprise me if it was atleast capable of the wider P3 gamut. So that may be the explanation, if I'm right then your projector would be limiting the green colour of the skies which are well beyond the SRGB range. On top of that I have no idea if your TV is calibrated but if not it'll be boosting the colour further. So yeah, I know that was kinda technical but it seems a likely explanation as Twister pushes those HDR colours hard as shown by HD-Numérique's comparison. and personally I remember the green being pretty intense on my QD-OLED which should be the artistic intent as my TV is calibrated. But personally I don't mind, it's a matter of taste & I liked it. But anyway this explanation makes more sense atleast to me than screen size being the culprit.
Always bear in mind that OLED tellies do exaggerate colour. I think they were an attempt to make everything look like Technicolor but it always looks too fake to me. The UHZ50 video projector doesn't have such rich colour as the UHD550X so all these systems are different. I'll have to take a look at Twister on the 550X to see if that messes it up a bit like your OLED displays it. I do have the discs to do the so-called 'calibration' and I did go through it all on the telly but it looked identical at the end of it other than being a bit too bright so I easily put that right. But many people are making money out of doing the same thing on a 'professional' basis and good luck to them. John.
Hi John, great review. Twister is a favourite of ours too. We saw it opening day at the big UCI in Edinburgh and enjoyed it so much, we went back and watched it again! There was a German special edition blu ray release a few years ago which has 2 discs. Film is on both, but one disc is Dolby Atmos and the other disc has Auro 13.1 3D sound. If you can decode that one it's epic ! Not watched the 4k yet, my wife and I will be kicking back this weekend for a viewing. Fasten the seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy ride ! Take care John and keep up the excellent work.
That's a shame db because I'd assumed the Turbine release came with the original cinema soundtracks. What a shame. It's still very good with this new 4K but then Twister always sounds sensational so it's a minor gripe and probably just that I know the film too well so can spot when things aren't sounding quite right. The image on the 4K is akin to owning your own 35mm print. There should be some film projector drumming in the background just to complete the illusion. John.
Thanks for reviewing this! Got the 4K for my birthday but my home theater gear is all packed away at the moment as I prepare to move. Definitely one that my wife and I watch annually once tornado season starts here in the Midwest haha. Edit: I can also attest firsthand that during the day in tornados weather, there can be pronounced hues in the sky. Green or orange is what I have usually seen. Otherwise it’s just really dark, really quickly.
We moved coming up to three years ago. The home cinema took some pulling apart but we did manage to leave it there to a fashion until a couple of days before hitting the road. Life just isn't the same without a cinema at home so it had to wait until almost last. Then it was one of the first jobs I set about when we got here. Gawd, was I knackered! John.
@@railerswim I did try to take my time with it but we moved in just before Christmas and my brother sent me the 4K of the James Bond film No Time To Die. So I had to get on with it. If you look up that video you'll see the lash-up I put together to start with but it formed the basis of what we ended up with. Say "hello" to your wife. I hope she likes movies as much as you do. My wife and I watch everything together. John.
Many fond memories of seeing this in a great THX-certified cinema on its premiere weekend. The new one, Twisters, pales greatly in comparison, yet another one of those movies which begs the question, "Why?"
That's what I'm concerned about with regard to Twisters. To be fair to film makers today, they've got all the wokery they have to adhere to and the downturn in ability and image quality too. It must be more difficult than ever to make a good film today. John.
Didn't mind the new colouring tbh. What irked me a little on the uhd was there was a new added sound effect that didn't work. Where you see a storm in the distance, they added a clap on thunder that sounded almost cartoonish. I have a region 1 dvd that runs DTS at 1.5mbs. Higher than my region 2's 754kps Dts. The original blu ray has a powerhouse of a sound mix. Not watched it in a couple of years but might be the best way at home. Never got the Ld but i'd like to hear the Ac3 on it at some point. Still have my Odeon Brighton ticket for screen 2. Best screen in sussex in the 90's. You could hear the rumble of the bass when queuing outside. Good times.
I wonder if Brighton ever got premiere house master prints Paul. I expect it was too remote for that but you never know. I think I prefer the original sound to the new re-working of it but that was mainly because some of the dialogue within the storm sequences was a little muffled which it never was on the LaserDisc and certainly wasn't at The Empire. John.
I am also eagerly awaiting the Dante's Peak 4K release from Kino, scheduled for early next year. I remember the theatrical soundfield on that one being amazing. Re: Twister 4K -- when I saw the green tint in the 'going green' scene, which also pervades in the following first twister scene, I elected to keep my Blu-ray, as I prefer the non-green first twister reveal. I simply acquired a spare 2-disc 4K case and placed both within. Really happy with that arrangement, as that Blu-ray is still top notch, visually speaking. *so many great releases out there. Can't wait to see what you review next!
Morning Jim. It's probably going to be A Nightmare On Elm Street next. As for that green sequence, try subduing your colour because it was far too green on my telly but not on the video projector. The setup of both is similar but the telly seems to be compressing the colours and that's why so many people are having colour issues throughout much of their 4K collection. John.
Hey John I think those red and blue glasses might have over exaggerate the green in Twister 😅😅😅 Great video my friend. Thank you for the shout out. These pesky TVs huh! Dante's Peak is on its way to 4K early next year thanks to Kino Lorba. I'll be Pre-Ordering it once it becomes available. I think you'll be impressed with A Nightmare On Elm Street. Stunning 4K. Trev
I can't recall how A Nightmare On Elm Street looked in the cinema but it must have been okay otherwise I'm sure I'd remember. It was pretty scary though as I was almost entirely alone in that huge Leicester Square Theatre auditorium so perhaps that distracted me. But if the 4K is good then the master print I saw will have been too. You started a good theory about tellies compressing the colours on 4K discs. That 'greenage' sequence in Twister was certainly exaggerated on the telly but wasn't through the video projector. It's only short anyway so I can't understand why some people made such a fuss about it other than to generate views with a moaning UA-cam video. Dante's Peak will surely be issued a while later over here because it's a big title. Likely that Universal will issue it themselves I think. John.
Twister - a film where no matter how daft it gets, it still manages to wow and excite unlike many other summer blockbusters. I’ve got the 4K disc and it’s great (but the hue of green was odd). I’ve also been on the experience ride/show in universal studios. Hell - even the divorce sub storyline work. Best scene is the drive in cinema -I love how they combined practical/digital SFX! Regards, Clark! can’t wait for your elm street review
Evening Clark. Jan De Bont does explain that single sequence where the green colour palette was applied to the sky so take a look a that. It's actually an interesting interview. Perhaps what he doesn't make obvious is that colour grading on film is not an exacting science. If they'd have tried that much green then the whole image would have been green and not just the sky. With Davinci Resolve grading today, clever video editors/graders can use nodes to modify specific pixels or areas of pixels. John.
Agreed on that drive-in scene. It's still an incredibly haunting and ultimately terrifying sequence, a masterwork of direction, editing, and sound. My 10 year old daughter was out of her seat and yelling at the characters to "get out of there!"
@@1165mac Exactly. I love the shot where Paxton and Hunt are looking into the distance at the pitch black nothing sky, and then the thunder strike reveals a giant twister! As you say, haunting and visceral!
Hi John! I'd like to ask you how's possible that the video projector manages the green sequence differently then the 4K tv. Also, did you find that the video projector renders it better? :)
I don't know the answer to that one I'm afraid Filippo. The theory is that tellies compress the colour and that is what is resulting in so many people complaining about some of the very good recent 4K releases. It seems to make sense because of the size differential but if anyone out there comes along with a seven or eight foot wide telly and tells me they're having the same problem as with more normal size tellies then it will be back to the drawing board for a new theory. I can understand people not being too happy if they're getting the excessive colour hue I showed in that 'greenage' sequence through my own telly but it was only the one sequence. Other releases have caused wailing and gnashing of teeth due to complaints of colour bias all the way through but that has not given the same results via my video projector nor Trevor's over at Double Bill Movies. John.
Apparently it's a Kino Lorber release so we'll have to wait until Universal issue it directly over here. If that happens at all I suppose but it's such a big title surely it's got to. John.
I’ve only Watched this movie once, and that was in the cinema in 1996. Good fun, but oddly I’ve never happened to watch it again. The 90s was the last great decade for cinema I feel, a few years into the new millennium it started to go downhill.
I started to notice the downturn in image quality from about 1997/1998. That was the switch to Super 35 becoming more prevalent to facilitate easier, cheaper CGI. Then the 2K digital intermediate started to come in from 2000 and that made the downgrade to image quality a whole lot more obvious. Then Michael Mann started shooting his productions with HD video and that ultimately stopped me frequenting cinemas with any regularity. Most people didn't notice a thing. Twister is a big screen film. But if you saw it originally on a big screen you'll know how good it was and the impact will remain even if watching on a smallish telly. John.
Yes loved laserdisc's. Possibly shouldn't have sold them. I kept my Star Wars disks. I also used to have the same Kef speakers as you, full 7.1 set up. Those were the days!
@@mcduckuk I thought I might track down an extra couple of rear tripoles for a 7.1 but there's not the room so it would likely spoil the multi-channel effect somewhat. As for DTS-X/Dolby Atmos, forget it! I'm not sticking any of those enormous, heavy Kef tripoles on the ceiling with me sitting underneath thank you very much!!! I kept all my LaserDiscs and still purchase them if I see anything tempting at a film collector fair. I need to find a second player really as the original from 1992 or 1993 is beginning to struggle a little. Overuse methinks. John.
This was a real treat, and im so happy you Will review elm street next, i just watched it yesterday on 4k disc, looking forward to hearing your opinion on the image quality. I remember seeing twister in the cinema in 96 and I think it was one of warners first dvds, great memories of 1996 at the movies.
Cinema was still at its height in 1996. It was a year or two later that the decline started to become obvious. Sadly we've still not got anywhere close to getting back to the quality of those days. I don't recall anything about how A Nightmare On Elm Street looked in 1984 or 85, but it must have been pretty good otherwise I think I would remember. It was pretty scary being sat in that giant auditorium with about half a dozen other people. John.
Great review, john. I have the original quad poster at home also somewhere, plus twister was the 1st movie to have a dvd release in the US also. Brilliant film on the 4k format I loved it
@@moviecollector5920 that will be something i will look forward to my friend. I am a avid film collector myself and also a film reviewer. I write for my local papers. I love watching your content and i buy the 4k films you approve of John so i really appreciate your work 👍👍
Hello John, great review - liked the latest headwear… miss the hats though. Twister in 4K looks great on my projector and the green looks pretty realistic to photos I’ve seen of approaching storms on US. Think other’s have mentioned, Dante’s Peak is getting a 4K release. I suspect Universal has done a 4K scan, so after Kino Lorber has had their US release window a UK independent may pick it up. Maybe Indicator as they have licensed Universal product before… All the best, Steve
I do hope Dante's Peak appears as a 4K over here. Perhaps Universal will issue it themselves but if not I propose Second Sight Films. I'll write the book. And it will be a big book! John.
Apparently a 4K of Dante's Peak is imminent from Kino Lorber which will mean a US or North American release only but I think Universal will get it issue elsewhere later as it's such a big title. Daylight is another great LaserDisc. John.
It's the original cinema sound which is how this film should have been issued on 4K but it's a minor gripe. Twister always sounds brilliant irrespective of the sound format. John.
Twister is a great film and this 4K is pretty wonderful. I'd have preferred one of the original soundtracks but it's a minor thing because Twister always sounds sensational. Dante's Peak is just about as good. John.
I also meant to talk about what happens at the end for the final shot when the titles come in after a while. I forgot to do so, so I put the detail of that in the description area. Optical title insert, original shot and then the addition of CGI looks to have turned it to mush. John.
But better at The Empire in 1996. When a film sounds as good as Twister though it doesn't really matter where it plays because it always sounds fabulous. John.
That DVD is probably better than the LaserDisc and I've always been happy with that so I'm sure your friend will be very happy with it. The sound is sensational whatever version you see, or hear. John.
@@bradallen8909 The VHS of this one if probably quite collectible today. DVD is surprisingly good through modern equipment and when new release DVD's come from the same master as a 4K, they can be astoundingly good. Don't write them off, particularly if you have a local shop like I do that sells 3 for £1... and that includes Blu-rays and occasionally 4K's in the deal too. John.
Likeable characters, spectacular audio and visual effects, but alas I have never enjoyed Twister. I just don't believe it's a very good movie. However, it very definitely is worth watching one time. And this may be one of the very rare moments when I feel that a change to the original film; i.e., the green hue, was worthwhile. Certainly better than recent Lucas and Cameron failings. Nonetheless, thumbs up for an entertaining video.
If we all had the same opinion about everything Henri then we'd be a very odd species. Shame it's not still possible to see films such as Twister at The Empire as it was in 1996 but alas nothing stays the same forever. I would are anyone not to think it was great in there with that incredible THX system. John.
Saw this at an old school cinema (pre multiplex) in early/mid 1990s. Loved it one my very early DVD 's Pleased its now on 4k. Bought it along with Twisters watched back to back on Sunday with the wind howling for real outside!!!! Like Dante's Peak hoping for UK release. Just noticed that The Sugarland Express has gone up for preorder and seems to be a very limited release. Anybody know when To catch a thief is coming out ? Nobody has it in stock release date was given as 14 October in UK. Thanks as always for the work you do John
Evening Mike. I don't tend to know when any of the releases are coming out but I always look at the HMV emails which tend to alert me to most of them. Second Sight and now 88 Films send me press releases so that helps. I suppose I could sign up to them all and maybe that's what we all should do. By the way, Sugarland Express was first issued in 1979 or 1980. It was a Universal 8 2x400ft Super 8 release that was a successful cut down of the film to about 33 minutes. It's better than the complete film and much more repeatable! John.
Thanks for another great review John - saw this at the cinema in Bournemouth back in 1996 with dts sound - its long been used for thx demos along with the likes of Terminator 2 ‘back in the day’ - I need to pick this up on 4k 👍
It's like having a 35mm print on a disc so I think you'll be pleased with it. As for Terminator 2, Ben Wales is bringing his own 35mm print up to screen it here so I must try to shoot a video of that. Shame I don't have the 4K wax release to compare it to but I do have it full length on Super 8, LaserDisc and DVD. John.
@@moviecollector5920 wow, that’ll be something to see ! I’ve seen it on all formats including 35mm in various cinemas when it released & own it on all formats - I’m actually ok with the wax version but will be interested to see your thoughts on the 35mm particularly the sound quality wish I was there to see that !!
@@1958_gibsonlespaul There were 70mm blow-ups for premiere houses and I saw one of those. Actually, I shot some Super 8 of the exterior of the Odeon Leicester Square while it was on and included it in a video about the last Terminator sequel 'Dark Fate'. That was over four years ago now but it's still up on UA-cam. As for the sound, it was sensational as I was six track magnetic on 70mm at the time but the 35mm prints were optical Dolby Stereo. I don't think the early attempt at digital cinema sound were applied to T2. It will still sound fabulous. Dolby Stereo is much underrated today but I sometimes find it to be better than the digital sound. John.
Talking about the Freddy films was a good excuse to have a bit of fun at the end of this one. No doubt I'll don the glasses again for the review of the 1984 film. John.
Hi john I have some reels of cine film which my friend got me from a jumble sale the reason they got them for me is because I'm a great fan of john Wayne's the alamo two of the reels have the alamo Richard Stillgoe BBC wrote on them I have no projector so can't view them but the film is very wide I don't know the gauge the other reels look like 8mm so I was wondering if I sent some pictures or the reels to you could you let me know what they are thanks
Just measure the width of the film John. If it's 16mm wide then you have 16mm film. If it's 8mm wide then it is one of two 8mm gauges; the first is the original 8mm which has an image area of 5mm and larger sprocke holes whereas the second is Super 8 which has an image area 6mm wide and a tiny sprocket hole. It really is that simple. I'd be surprised if the width of the film was more than 16mm but if it is then reply on here and we'll work it out. John.
Hi John! Loved this 4k and don't mind the green look at all. I remember seeing Dante's Peak in a Future Shop store many years ago as a display in their tv surround sound rooms they used to have. You could wander in sit and watch while they attempted to make the sale lolololo...The bass was rumbling and the storm crackling as they tried to navigate across that bridge hahah Yes I would think Dante's Peak offers great 4k potential. Just purchased Nightmare on Elm Street this afternoon so look forward to your thoughts. I'm hearing great things about it. Meanwhile hope all is well across the pond and all the best D in BC!
Morning Dave. I'll probably watch A Nightmare On Elm Street on Saturday evening if you fancy flying over. It should be good because I'm sure I'd remember if the imagery was sub-par at the Leicester Square Theatre. Then again, it was bloody frightening being almost alone in that massive auditorium so perhaps I was distracted. Dante's Peak is being issued as a 4K disc by Kino Lorber soon. John.
I can remember seeing this at the cinema myself at a vigin cinema 🎥 the sa round sound fir the twisters were amazing this a was a good rendition forgive spelling lol
The sound has always been fabulous on Twister Andrew but I didn't quite get up to how I remember it at The Empire with their unsurpassed THX system back in 1996. I'll have to reconfigure a little and give it another go because I think I can get it a little better. John.
Send it over Richard!!! Seriously though, if someone is doing that in the USA it surely won't be long until a deal is made to release it over here too. Another great film for the ultimate THX cinema in 1996 (I think) with the greatest sound in the world at that time. Other opinions are available but it was the best I ever heard across the UK and the USA. John.
Excellent review John, I'm a huge fan of Twister, I luckily got the special edition of it,will have a review up tomorrow...I did a review of A Nightmare On Elm Street 4k and thanks to yours and Trevors help its become my most successful video...looking forward to your take on Freddy 😊
Well done Marty. I hope your video for Twister is just as successful as A Nightmare On Elm Street. I'll probably watch that 4K on Saturday evening. John.
It didn't have Dolby Atmos Condo so that's actually a good thing. Twister didn't sound quite right but that's because I know the film too well. Dante's Peak will sound great as long as it's the original Dolby Digital sound, or even the Dolby Stereo for that matter. I just hope a deal is done and it's released over here. John.
I just got my 35mm print of Twister sound mix is awesome dialog is crystal clear been running sony sdds. Green scene is very slight. My print is very good condition
Send it over! I don't have the SDDS kit but I bet the Dolby Digital is brilliant too. I'll have to find out what we heard at The Empire in 1996 but I expect it was SDDS THX. Sensational! What a wonderful acquisition in 35mm. Well done. John.
It would had been a 35mm print at the Empire Leicester Square in DTS, certainly never a 70mm print at being screened at the Empire. Although I don't have a 35mm print, but do have original DTS disks for this film.
Evening Ben. I wondered if it might have been SDDS but they're all equally good so I don't suppose I'd have been able to tell one from the other. It would be a good 35mm to run at home and if I saw a copy singing like a bird (cheap, cheap) then I don't think I'd be able to resist. John.
@@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748 I can't remember Andy. Ben Wales believes it was a 35mm screening in sync' with the DTS CD so you're probably right. If you happen to come across a print please send it my way! I think the original sound may be better than this latest re-working but equally it could be an incompatibility with my system causing the occasional muffled dialogue. John.
Another great video John.. My 4 k Collectors Edition of twister will arrive tomorrow. The 4k of to catch a thief arrived today, i will watch in the evening. May i adk, what is your favorite 4k until now? Have a nice evening. Jens
I don't know what my favourite 4K is Jens but the best is TENET. No surprise there given how it was filmed. The only reason I haven't watched it to death on 4K is because I want to see it at the BFI IMAX again.... and again and again... John.
I haven' t seen tenet at Cinema because of Covid. I have the 4 k but naturally it ist made for big Cinema. Maybe i have a chance in Future. At this Weekend i will Look the Interstellar (10 years Anniversary re- release) at Cinema.
@@JensStelzer Find somewhere running INTERSTELLAR in 70mm Jens. The prints are still about and it will be an absolute treat. Better still, the BFI IMAX are screening it at the moment so get on a plane and see the ultimate! If these films are just being video projected it's probably just as enjoyable to watch them at home. John.
I remember that i read that in 2014 was one Copy of 70mm Interstellar at Berlin Zoo Palast. They had an 70 mm Projektor from the 80's in one room. I don't know If there is still one copy in Germany.
There's an idea. If you feel like doing something different show your collection of your favorite film soundtracks. Which ones were so good you were compelled to buy them. I enjoy collecting soundtracks of my favorites films.
That's one that would be interesting to make but wouldn't generate many views. There are a lot of subjects that I'd like to do but can't justify the time as the resultant upload would fail to find an audience. I have tried a few over the years and it's always disappointing. Phantasm is probably soundtrack I was most pleased to ever purchase. I was about 15 years old at the time and you don't forget getting hold of something special at that sort of age. As time goes on we tend to take things for granted. John.
I have shown quite a few LaserDiscs over the years but not many people would be interesting in a bespoke video about them. I'll continue to show them when they're relevant just as I do with the Super 8 features and trailers. I did do a video about Super 8 four years ago but hardly anyone watched it at the time. John.
@@moviecollector5920 Do worry there are more fans of Laserdisc than you think. I have over 1500 of them and people like me like to see this, just throw one together and see where is goes you never know. Thanks for all your good work on YT
Not really. But quite a few seem to have found their way to me. I need to get another quad poster frame so that we can have a fourth up in the house otherwise these cinematic works of art will all spend too much time in a cupboard. John.
I tried to watch the new twister (remake or how you can call it) film two times now and always had to quit because it was so bad in my opinion. I quit my second try just a minute ago and shut off my projector to watch some youtube and look what was recommended to me: Your review of the old one on 4K. Funny.
Agreed. I didn’t find anything special about the new movie. Such a shame. I’m amazed that Hollywood can still have such an easy time making a good movie, but they still whiff it constantly.
Maybe I should wait to have a look at Twisters. It will get cheaper and probably also not a good idea to take a look so soon after seeing the great original. Nothing's going to come close but I do like Into The Storm so maybe I'll still enjoy Twisters. John.
Does that 4K have the same audio tracks as the German Turbine edition? Thats the edition I have and the audio on that disc is absolutely bowel-shattering! 🤌✨️
I think that Turbine came with the original cinema tracks so that's probably preferable in that regard as this has a re-work into Dolby Atmos which didn't sound quite right in places through my system. That can happen though so it's probably not a universal issue with all home systems. Twister always sounds fabulous irrespective of the format and any minor gripes I may have with the new track. The image quality is the big thing and on this 4K it's akin to having a 35mm print. John.
Hello John, I am from the Midwest U.S.A. and the green coloring on this new master is accurate to real life. During large/dangerous tornado producing storms (we call them super cells), the green hue in the sky happens in real life during these dangerous storms. I have witnessed it many times over the decades.
Love your content as always. Cheers!
That's exactly what Jan De Bont says in the new interview on the disc Bushyman. The way some had reported it to me I was expecting the whole film to have a green bias but that certainly wasn't the case. I suspect someone learned the colour palette had been changed for that one sequence from that interview and then used it for a bit of a negative review video to generate views. People seem to prefer a bit of moaning.
John.
Hi John!!! Here's an example of why I like projectors so much over TVs, the natural feel of the image, especially in this type of film... it's spectacular.
Projection is cinema José. I think that's the best tagline to put to it. But I do find it's possible to make modern video projection look like the films we all used to be able to see in cinemas rather than the comparatively poor video projection most cinemas are presenting today. In other words, we're better at it at home than many of the so-called professionals.
John.
John my friend and I watch every video you make. You are the only person we have found on the UA-cam that really knows his stuff when it comes to movie formats and how they are transfered to disc's. Keep up the good work. Greeting from Kingston canada. P.s your IMAX presentation from the projection booth at BFI was incredible.
Thank you Cameron. Good to have you and your friend here and good to know you liked the video with Michael Ford at the IMAX. He's got to be one of the most experienced projectionists still working anywhere in the world today.
John.
Yeah Dante's Peak was awesome. Definitely needs a 4K.
Coming soon
Apparently it's getting one via Kino Lorber. Hopefully a UK release will follow. John.
Great 4K, picked it up and watched it yesterday. The new colour grading is a huge boon, and the film has never looked better!
It's only that one sequence. The rest of it looks almost the same as the LaserDisc but LD was an earlier technology and didn't have the colour and density capabilities of 4K and let alone film.
John.
Twister is one of my favorite movies of the 90s. I saw it opening day on 35mm with SDDS sound and it was amazing! The “going green” sequence being changed doesn’t bother me because it was changed to be more accurate to what happens in reality. I have the original blu-ray (which is an awful transfer) and to me it sounds like the dialogue is clearer on the Atmos track than I remember. I owned this movie many times… laserdisc, DVD, DTS DVD, Blu-Ray and now the 4K. The 4K definitely makes up for the terrible job they did on the blu-ray. Great video! I look forward to your thoughts on Nightmare On Elm Street.
The NTSC LaserDisc was always good enough for me Anthony but a 4K disc was too tempting to ignore. I too felt the same way about the 'greenage' but the way some had gone on about it made me think the whole film had been changed. It's one sequence so even if I hadn't have liked it, it wouldn't have spoiled the film for me.
John.
If only _professional_ film reviewers were as genuine, as technically competent, and as *passionate* about film/cinema as you. Erik.
Or perhaps I'm looking at these older films through rose-tinted glasses Erik. But more likely through anaglyph glasses!
@@moviecollector5920 I really don't think you're looking at older films (or any films, for that matter) through rose-tinted glasses. But I thought it was humorous when you did the end of the video with the anaglyph glasses on.
Great work John..... going into my pickup list.
Twister has always been great Roy but this 4K is probably the best since the film prints were in cinemas.
John.
Another great review, thank you John. Can’t beat those LaserDisc cover arts. I can still remember how exciting it was to see them in the Virgin Megastores in the 90s
I spent far too much money in the West End stores such as Virgin on LaserDiscs Neil. Stereo Regent Street, Tower Records and HMV all happily drained my wallet!
John.
@Movie Collector thanks for reviewing this 4K that is still on my “to watch” pile. Only so many hours in a day and way too many movies I want to (re-)watch, books to read, music to listen and be a social human being. 😄
Seen Twister in cinemas back in 96 and loved it. Time to re-watch it.
It's a great film Pieter. The trouble is, there are so many great films but possibly not as many appearing these days so we may all get time to catch up as the years go on.
John.
We watched this with my kids. They loved it. I love when the older movies get remaster. Then my kids can get the same experience i got.
I think we all need a time machine so we can take youngster back and show them how good things used to be. Here, that would make a good movie!!! Just watch out for the Morlocks.
John.
Also from midwest USA and can attest to the accuracy of the "greenage". Being 11 years old at the time this was released this was my most viewed movie in the theater, still to this day. Must have gone 6 times. A special moment recently sharing this 4K disc experience with my own children. They loved it and finally understood my enthusiasm.
It's odd that some people seem to have made a fuss about the 'greenage' but I suppose a thumbnail that looks like it's going to be a big moan fest will always generate more views so that's why. I'm not in the mid-west of the USA but heading west from London along the M4 this afternoon we were presented with angry skies that almost resembled the stormy skies portrayed in Twister. It felt like evening was closing in but then the sun came out.
Sorry it took me a couple of days to reply to this. I couldn't get on-line.
John.
Great review. Twister and Dante’s Peak had a strange air of miscasting around both films. Yet somehow it worked. Bill Paxton was hardly a leading man but with turns in One False Move and later Frailty proved he could hold his own with an ensemble. Seeing Hoffman in any role is a pleasure and Helen Hunt, still coming off her success on TV, did a funny nod to this movie when she was caught playing the game ‘twister’ in a Mad About You episode. Looking forward to Dante’s, the special effects were great and the film managed to squeeze a few notably dramatic scenes with the mom and Pierce, pleasantly unexpected.
I think the casting in both films contributes to their success. Particularly Bill Paxton in Twister.
I've never heard of 'Mad About You' but if I had seen it I don't think I'd have missed the gag referencing back to 'Twister'. I like that sort of nonsense so thank you for making us aware of it. It probably never got shown here in Britain.
John.
Always a movie I've enjoyed. The new one Twisters is surprisingly good too.
Twisters is generating mixed opinions but it seems to be about 50/50 on here. I'll try it eventually. John.
Great review, as always. Will be pulling the trigger to get this now. One of the dwindling few 4k releases that are still making it to Australia. Thanks, John!
It's a good one Matt. I'm not entirely sure the sound is as good as it once was but it's still brilliant because that's Twister and it would be impossible to make a complete cods of it. John.
I love this film, John. The 4K is amazing and like you I also went to see this one at the cinema. One of the best disater movies from the 90's.
There were some great cinema films back then Singin. A year or two later and I started to notice the decline in image quality. Thankfully, Twister did not suffer in this regard owing to being shot full frame anamorphic but in 1997 the downturn to Super 35 commenced en masse and this was to facilitate easier (i.e. faster and cheaper) computer generated animation.
John.
Great John your back on and at your always best.
Yeah Twister was wonderful in the cinema. I made the mistake of going to see the new version Twisters not a patch on the original only special effects sound good but the rest give me a break.
Easily forgettable that one.
Look forward to your Nightmare on Elm Street.
Cheers and a very good evening over there.
Graham.
Afternoon Graham... where you are at least, unless it's still the morning. To be fair to Twisters, lightning never strikes twice! John.
Great review , you are a massive inspiration to us smaller physical media content creators. 👍👍👍👍
I've just left a comment on your latest video. Well done with packing so much in to a short video. I need to be more like that sometimes.
John.
Re-watched this in 4DX a couple of months at Leicester Square. Easily one of the best 4DX experiences I’ve had. 👍🏻
I tried all those sort of things out in the 1990's. Good fun as a fair ground attraction but didn't think it would be my sort of thing for a cinema visit. A reinvention of what was being done on occasion by people such as William Castle in the 1950's as I recall.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 In my opinion it 100% elevated the experience as far as immersion was concerned. I re-watched five movies over the course of about ten days at Leicester Square. £5 per movie instead of the regular £23 to £25 a ticket!
Excellent review, your videos always motivate me to get a BluRay Player and go headfirst into Physical Media!
Loved that bit at the end with the 3D glasses, haha! Would love to see some 3D BluRay Reviews if you like that format
Morning Cloudy. I hope your latest IMAX upload is doing as well as some of your others because it deserves to.
I was only thinking about you and 4K discs last night because you probably would enjoy the whole process. Getting all the equipment to start with can be a bit expensive though because to get the best out of 4K discs it needs a video projector. But apart from that and a 4K UHD Blu-ray player that would be all that is required to make a good start. If you have a wall that can be pained white then that will set you on the right path. That's all my home cinema is when you analyze it. And don't let anyone ever tell you that an expensive screen needs to be purchased because that's nonsense. The first discs to purchase would be the Christopher Nolan IMAX films. You will immediately see the superiority of image quality that the IMAX and standard 70mm sequences offer. But they do pale compared to the real McCoy 15/70 IMAX prints. However much they pale though, they still look amazing. Start with the best and even shrunk down to home video, they're still the best. Start with crap and whatever is done to that crap it's still crap at the end of it... with one possible exception that I've seen so far and that's American Graffiti but that's another story.
John.
I could not be more happy that you decided to tackle this film. I have an early DVD of Twister, one that comes in the old style case with a card up front, and a clasp to close it. It's quite precious to me, as Twister is one of my favorite films. I'd like to know what you think of the follow up, Twisters as well. I've never seen Dante's Peak. Maybe I will watch it tonight.
Dante's Peak has a lot of similarities Timothy so if you don't like it I will be surprised. The NTSC LaserDiscs for both films are grrrrrrrreat. But I couldn't resist a 4K and I won't be able to for Dante's Peak either.
John.
@moviecollector5920 I'd like to get my hands on the 4k of this film, especially that Zavvi edition, but who knows what will happen? I will let you know if I like Dante's Peak. Another great film that needs a 4k disc is The Day After Tomorrow. I really hope that a 4k happens.
@@TimothyMathetes-e2o I very much like The Day After Tomorrow too. A load of nonsense of course but it's great fun. John.
@@moviecollector5920 great fun indeed 👍🏽
@moviecollector5920 Hello John. I just wanted to say that I saw Dante's Peak, and I thought it was alright,..pretty good. To me, it has tonal issues. Twister is a disaster movie, but it manages to feel like an adventure throughout. With Dante's Peak, we get dramatic moments and sad moments, and borderline horrific moments. A lot of tonal shifting. Had it been more consistent with the tone, I might have liked it more. But still,it is not a bad film..very interesting, actually.
IIRC, the bit in the teaser with the car and the tractor flying towards it was originally just some test CGI ILM did to show if they could do it convincingly or not. And either the director and/or the producers were so impressed with that fragment that they put it in the teaser.
Funnily enough, that's detailed a couple of times within the extras. That sequence formed the ending to the teaser trailer and was possibly a large part of the box office success of the film.
John.
Hi Dantes Peak 4k is coming out in America in January from Kino Lorber $26 🎉
I expect it will arrive here via Universal later in the year. A great film. John.
Hi John, we had such good feedback about the soundtrack from the audience after playing the 35mm print this summer. We have dolby digital 5.1 here and everyone was amazed about how good it was. They came out saying they felt they had been in a real twister! Simon (Courtyard)
I think the original sound may be better than this remix Simon but it could be that my system struggled with it a little at times. The night at The Empire in 1996 was memorable but we got the NTSC LaserDisc soon after and have watched that more than most discs during the ensuing years so that's the soundtrack I know best. It was always one of the best sounding films and I would have very much liked to have been at your Courtyard picture house for the 35mm screening. It's one film I probably would not be able to resist if I was offered a 35mm print for a few hundred smackers. Good to learn that your screening went down well but I'm not surprised.
John.
You're safe there John I think you'll be lucky finding a print at that price..the print hire fee from Universal cost us £200!
@@simonnichollsfilm Take a look at this video Simon because he's just purchased a print of Twister: ua-cam.com/video/pM1eh8SZkyE/v-deo.html
Great review John, I remember going to see this at the long shut Gatley cinema in south Manchester & was probably the best example of surround sound being integral to the experience of the movie, that much so that me & my friend went back a few days later to see it again, such was level it literally blew our youn minds away.
It's the wind Brookes. 'Into The Storm' is similar so if you haven't seen that one it's probably worth a try if only for the surround sound wind all over again.
John.
SDDS was a really good sound system. They used their Atrac compression system which ended up on their minidisc format. It used to be part of the experience seeing movies, usually in the large screens, when the sound format trailer was played before the film. I saw Twister in DTS at the local Warner Village which had a THX screen. So....DTS trailer...then the loud THX trailer and this movie.. ahh good days...
Was that High Wycombe Quinn? At the time there were only four THX cinemas in Britain and two of them were in Leicester Square, one in High Wycombe and another which you may now be able to educate me about. SDDS was sometimes 8 channel sound but more often 6 channels. I would be able to put the kit on my Kinoton FP20 but it's a large add-on and the processor is even bigger so I'd better resist that temptation.
I still have a couple of MiniDisc players. A Kenwood recorder HiFi separates and a Sony in-car player.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 It was at Ellesmere Port. They had SDDS, DTS and Dolby Digital in their Screen 1, which was THX. I only saw one movie projected with Sony's format, Mission to Mars and was a bit underwhelmed with it. So..you have a reader unit and processor 😀?
thanks for the review, John, and for reminding me I have the Super 8 trailer which I intend to run tonight.
I have Dante's Peak immediately after the Twister trailer on a 600ft reel Brian. I think we screened that reel at a BFCC many years ago.
John.
I agree with the pause at the start of the movie that sets the scene.
I noticed this years ago on DVD when it was released. Having a surround sound amp at the time helped notice it more as the sound transitioned to cracking to silence.
To add this movie along with the matrix and Armageddon were my reference movies to show my friends the "home cinema experience".
On an arctic loewe planus 32" TV, Yamaha DSP A1 and 5.1 B&W speaker's.
The Fugitive opening was the 'killer application' used by dealers when surround sound amplifiers started to take off. Twister a few years later probably did the same job with the opening sequence of that. The video quality didn't match the audio though unless you had a Super 8 print to run in locked synchronization to the VHS, LaserDisc or later DVD. Those were the days. John.
*Speakers, dumbass.
Great review, John. As others have said, the blu-ray transfer was lacking (to put it kindly). This 4k is amazing. There are subtle color timing changes throughout the film, but I agree that the changes only add to the ambiance and the tone they were clearly going for. Love the LD trip as well. There is something kind of magical about those huge discs and the artwork on the sleeves! Can’t wait for your Nightmare on Elm Street review. Haven’t picked that one up yet. Cheers.
Morning Eric. It's likely the previous releases of Twister were taken from prints and only now has the negative been transferred for a home video disc. It makes a difference.
LaserDisc was the king of home video for many years. It couldn't compete with the great Super 8 releases throughout that period but LD was a darn site cheaper. If you had the same film on Super 8 and LD though the sound from the LD could be locked into the Super 8 and that gave the ultimate home cinema experience. It really was cinema in the home.
John.
My god john the old 3d😂 glasses, cool to see the old Freddy VHS covers and Freddys dead on laserdisc.
The anaglyph glasses I put on are actually the ones I was given at the Odeon West End (Leicester Square Theatre) on the night. There are two more in the LaserDisc but they're slightly different.
John.
Saw this at my local Odeon in Gants Hill that proudly advertised how they had a refit for the new sound system, remember the cow mooing from one side of the auditorium to the other! Our minds were blown by it! Unfortunately refitting the sound system didn't stop it from closing down a couple of years later.
That's sad. Even sadder today is the volume of cinema closures that look set to get even worse in the months ahead. John.
My all time fav movie
Loved it meet the cast at a convention ages ago
Well done. I hope you got some photos and autographs. John.
Top video John and I always love the Super 8 references.
Looking forward to Elm St!
And the 3D glasses!!! I still have a pair of those from way back in the day!
The 3D glasses are the Freddy Vision anaglyphs I was given when we went into the Odeon West End to see the film. The LD anaglyphs are almost identical and there are two of those in the gatefold. None of it improves the film though but the 3D sequence is quite impressive. It was more impressive at the cinema though.
John.
Had this on Laser Disc back in the day. Was a demo disc for audio.
You should have heard it in The Empire in 1996 Cheekster. It was like being in the storms. But that was THX at the time so a little different today and particularly now what remains of that great cinema is so compact by comparison. John.
@@moviecollector5920 - I did experience it in THX and DTS at UCI Wycombe 6. The audio track was excellent.
Love the 3D glasses John! Wish I still had mine from 'Treasure of the four crowns', 'Space hunter' and 'Metalstorm The destruction of Jarred Synn' lol. Did see Twister at the new ISH at the time MGM cinema in Northampton back in 96. Think it was DTS sound. Just remember being blown away buy both sound and visuals. Will certainly pick this up. Looking forward to your review of Nightmare on Elm St. My favourite Wes Craven film.
Wifey and I were just talking about how it was possible with regard to Twister for full frame anamorphic 35mm to blend in so seamlessly with CGI in 1996 but then during the ensuing years the same process became such comparative crap. Something must have changed with regard to how computer animation was incorporated into 35mm film frames because otherwise it makes no sense. The adoption of Super 35 more generally clearly caused a reduction in general image quality but why would the CGI in so many films have stood out like a sore thumb compared to films such as Twister? It's a conundrum.
I'll probably watch the 4K of A Nightmare On Elm Street on Saturday evening so if all goes to plan I'll get a review up a few days later.
John.
Twister was the first title released on DVD! Many years ago. You like your old formats John, 8mm film, Laser disc! Heard the new Alien Romulus film will be the first title released on VHS in 18 years! Wow.
Twister didn't appear on DVD here first unless I'm remembering incorrectly. I think the Wallace & Gromit 'The Wrong Trousers' was the first but there were three that came out early on and I can't recall the other two. As for releasing a new VHS, good grief! But I hope it does well. If it was being issued on LaserDisc then I might be tempted.
John.
The green two screens were done on purpose by the director. Because in real life the sky does go green before a twister arrives if you look it up
I think it's one of the first things I say in this video because the new interview with Jan De Bont has him telling us exactly why he did it. John.
hi John great content as always Dantes peak and Volcano both from 1997 we need in 4k
Volcano, now that's another very good LaserDisc. I don't think the film has aged as well as Dante's Peak though but I still very much enjoy it.
John.
Another great review. I didn't know they retrospectively made the adjustment to the sky color for the one scene. Also interesting is the difference between projection and TV display. I'm curious what 4K blu rays will look like in the future when technology has advanced even further to better process the data on the discs to render the intended image.
Blu-ray is wonderful Andy, particularly when taken from the same master as the equivalent 4K. It's just that the colour and density is comparatively limited and generally after you've watched a 4K the Blu-ray looks poor. It's not, but that's the impression it gives directly after viewing the 4K.
John.
Thinking about the colour difference between your TV & projector, I seem to remember you showing us your projector once.
I could be completely misremembering, but I believe it was only capable of the SRGB colour gamut as opposed to the much wider BT.2020 gamut used by 4ks (and yes Twister uses the full BT.2020 gamut not P3).
Now I don't know anything about your TV but it wouldn't surprise me if it was atleast capable of the wider P3 gamut.
So that may be the explanation, if I'm right then your projector would be limiting the green colour of the skies which are well beyond the SRGB range.
On top of that I have no idea if your TV is calibrated but if not it'll be boosting the colour further.
So yeah, I know that was kinda technical but it seems a likely explanation as Twister pushes those HDR colours hard as shown by HD-Numérique's comparison.
and personally I remember the green being pretty intense on my QD-OLED which should be the artistic intent as my TV is calibrated. But personally I don't mind, it's a matter of taste & I liked it.
But anyway this explanation makes more sense atleast to me than screen size being the culprit.
Always bear in mind that OLED tellies do exaggerate colour. I think they were an attempt to make everything look like Technicolor but it always looks too fake to me. The UHZ50 video projector doesn't have such rich colour as the UHD550X so all these systems are different. I'll have to take a look at Twister on the 550X to see if that messes it up a bit like your OLED displays it. I do have the discs to do the so-called 'calibration' and I did go through it all on the telly but it looked identical at the end of it other than being a bit too bright so I easily put that right. But many people are making money out of doing the same thing on a 'professional' basis and good luck to them.
John.
Hi John, great review. Twister is a favourite of ours too. We saw it opening day at the big UCI in Edinburgh and enjoyed it so much, we went back and watched it again! There was a German special edition blu ray release a few years ago which has 2 discs. Film is on both, but one disc is Dolby Atmos and the other disc has Auro 13.1 3D sound. If you can decode that one it's epic ! Not watched the 4k yet, my wife and I will be kicking back this weekend for a viewing. Fasten the seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy ride ! Take care John and keep up the excellent work.
That's a shame db because I'd assumed the Turbine release came with the original cinema soundtracks. What a shame. It's still very good with this new 4K but then Twister always sounds sensational so it's a minor gripe and probably just that I know the film too well so can spot when things aren't sounding quite right. The image on the 4K is akin to owning your own 35mm print. There should be some film projector drumming in the background just to complete the illusion.
John.
Thanks for reviewing this! Got the 4K for my birthday but my home theater gear is all packed away at the moment as I prepare to move.
Definitely one that my wife and I watch annually once tornado season starts here in the Midwest haha.
Edit: I can also attest firsthand that during the day in tornados weather, there can be pronounced hues in the sky. Green or orange is what I have usually seen. Otherwise it’s just really dark, really quickly.
We moved coming up to three years ago. The home cinema took some pulling apart but we did manage to leave it there to a fashion until a couple of days before hitting the road. Life just isn't the same without a cinema at home so it had to wait until almost last. Then it was one of the first jobs I set about when we got here. Gawd, was I knackered!
John.
My wife read your reply. She said that’s the exact term she would describe me as just waiting to get my home theater set back up haha!
Cheers Jon!
@@railerswim I did try to take my time with it but we moved in just before Christmas and my brother sent me the 4K of the James Bond film No Time To Die. So I had to get on with it. If you look up that video you'll see the lash-up I put together to start with but it formed the basis of what we ended up with.
Say "hello" to your wife. I hope she likes movies as much as you do. My wife and I watch everything together.
John.
I want you to know I love your reviews. You’re awesome thank you.
Very kind of you Kelly. Good to have you here. John.
Many fond memories of seeing this in a great THX-certified cinema on its premiere weekend. The new one, Twisters, pales greatly in comparison, yet another one of those movies which begs the question, "Why?"
That's what I'm concerned about with regard to Twisters. To be fair to film makers today, they've got all the wokery they have to adhere to and the downturn in ability and image quality too. It must be more difficult than ever to make a good film today.
John.
Didn't mind the new colouring tbh. What irked me a little on the uhd was there was a new added sound effect that didn't work. Where you see a storm in the distance, they added a clap on thunder that sounded almost cartoonish.
I have a region 1 dvd that runs DTS at 1.5mbs. Higher than my region 2's 754kps Dts.
The original blu ray has a powerhouse of a sound mix. Not watched it in a couple of years but might be the best way at home.
Never got the Ld but i'd like to hear the Ac3 on it at some point.
Still have my Odeon Brighton ticket for screen 2. Best screen in sussex in the 90's. You could hear the rumble of the bass when queuing outside. Good times.
I wonder if Brighton ever got premiere house master prints Paul. I expect it was too remote for that but you never know. I think I prefer the original sound to the new re-working of it but that was mainly because some of the dialogue within the storm sequences was a little muffled which it never was on the LaserDisc and certainly wasn't at The Empire.
John.
I am also eagerly awaiting the Dante's Peak 4K release from Kino, scheduled for early next year. I remember the theatrical soundfield on that one being amazing.
Re: Twister 4K -- when I saw the green tint in the 'going green' scene, which also pervades in the following first twister scene, I elected to keep my Blu-ray, as I prefer the non-green first twister reveal. I simply acquired a spare 2-disc 4K case and placed both within. Really happy with that arrangement, as that Blu-ray is still top notch, visually speaking.
*so many great releases out there. Can't wait to see what you review next!
Morning Jim. It's probably going to be A Nightmare On Elm Street next. As for that green sequence, try subduing your colour because it was far too green on my telly but not on the video projector. The setup of both is similar but the telly seems to be compressing the colours and that's why so many people are having colour issues throughout much of their 4K collection.
John.
Hey John I think those red and blue glasses might have over exaggerate the green in Twister 😅😅😅
Great video my friend. Thank you for the shout out. These pesky TVs huh!
Dante's Peak is on its way to 4K early next year thanks to Kino Lorba. I'll be Pre-Ordering it once it becomes available.
I think you'll be impressed with A Nightmare On Elm Street. Stunning 4K.
Trev
I can't recall how A Nightmare On Elm Street looked in the cinema but it must have been okay otherwise I'm sure I'd remember. It was pretty scary though as I was almost entirely alone in that huge Leicester Square Theatre auditorium so perhaps that distracted me. But if the 4K is good then the master print I saw will have been too.
You started a good theory about tellies compressing the colours on 4K discs. That 'greenage' sequence in Twister was certainly exaggerated on the telly but wasn't through the video projector. It's only short anyway so I can't understand why some people made such a fuss about it other than to generate views with a moaning UA-cam video.
Dante's Peak will surely be issued a while later over here because it's a big title. Likely that Universal will issue it themselves I think.
John.
Twister - a film where no matter how daft it gets, it still manages to wow and excite unlike many other summer blockbusters. I’ve got the 4K disc and it’s great (but the hue of green was odd). I’ve also been on the experience ride/show in universal studios. Hell - even the divorce sub storyline work.
Best scene is the drive in cinema -I love how they combined practical/digital SFX! Regards, Clark!
can’t wait for your elm street review
Evening Clark. Jan De Bont does explain that single sequence where the green colour palette was applied to the sky so take a look a that. It's actually an interesting interview. Perhaps what he doesn't make obvious is that colour grading on film is not an exacting science. If they'd have tried that much green then the whole image would have been green and not just the sky. With Davinci Resolve grading today, clever video editors/graders can use nodes to modify specific pixels or areas of pixels.
John.
Agreed on that drive-in scene. It's still an incredibly haunting and ultimately terrifying sequence, a masterwork of direction, editing, and sound. My 10 year old daughter was out of her seat and yelling at the characters to "get out of there!"
@@1165mac Exactly. I love the shot where Paxton and Hunt are looking into the distance at the pitch black nothing sky, and then the thunder strike reveals a giant twister! As you say, haunting and visceral!
Hi John! I'd like to ask you how's possible that the video projector manages the green sequence differently then the 4K tv. Also, did you find that the video projector renders it better? :)
I don't know the answer to that one I'm afraid Filippo. The theory is that tellies compress the colour and that is what is resulting in so many people complaining about some of the very good recent 4K releases. It seems to make sense because of the size differential but if anyone out there comes along with a seven or eight foot wide telly and tells me they're having the same problem as with more normal size tellies then it will be back to the drawing board for a new theory. I can understand people not being too happy if they're getting the excessive colour hue I showed in that 'greenage' sequence through my own telly but it was only the one sequence. Other releases have caused wailing and gnashing of teeth due to complaints of colour bias all the way through but that has not given the same results via my video projector nor Trevor's over at Double Bill Movies.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Thank you ! :)
I think I heard Dante's Peak is coming out in 4k sometime in the Winter. I'm looking forward to that one too.
Apparently it's a Kino Lorber release so we'll have to wait until Universal issue it directly over here. If that happens at all I suppose but it's such a big title surely it's got to.
John.
Thank you, John, always a delight 😊. I like the glasses, by the way 😂
Yes, I thought I looked very fetching in them! John.
I’ve only
Watched this movie once, and that was in the cinema in 1996. Good fun, but oddly I’ve never happened to watch it again. The 90s was the last great decade for cinema I feel, a few years into the new millennium it started to go downhill.
I started to notice the downturn in image quality from about 1997/1998. That was the switch to Super 35 becoming more prevalent to facilitate easier, cheaper CGI. Then the 2K digital intermediate started to come in from 2000 and that made the downgrade to image quality a whole lot more obvious. Then Michael Mann started shooting his productions with HD video and that ultimately stopped me frequenting cinemas with any regularity. Most people didn't notice a thing.
Twister is a big screen film. But if you saw it originally on a big screen you'll know how good it was and the impact will remain even if watching on a smallish telly.
John.
Nice work! I had Twister on LD. Still have the DVD and sound track.
I never did get the DVD because I liked the LaserDisc so much. I think it has a lot to do with the packaging. John.
Yes loved laserdisc's. Possibly shouldn't have sold them. I kept my Star Wars disks. I also used to have the same Kef speakers as you, full 7.1 set up. Those were the days!
@@mcduckuk I thought I might track down an extra couple of rear tripoles for a 7.1 but there's not the room so it would likely spoil the multi-channel effect somewhat. As for DTS-X/Dolby Atmos, forget it! I'm not sticking any of those enormous, heavy Kef tripoles on the ceiling with me sitting underneath thank you very much!!!
I kept all my LaserDiscs and still purchase them if I see anything tempting at a film collector fair. I need to find a second player really as the original from 1992 or 1993 is beginning to struggle a little. Overuse methinks.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 I had a Pioneer CLD2950 Modified by a company in Oxford for and RF Dolby Digital out. Good idea with the backup 😀
This was a real treat, and im so happy you Will review elm street next, i just watched it yesterday on 4k disc, looking forward to hearing your opinion on the image quality. I remember seeing twister in the cinema in 96 and I think it was one of warners first dvds, great memories of 1996 at the movies.
Cinema was still at its height in 1996. It was a year or two later that the decline started to become obvious. Sadly we've still not got anywhere close to getting back to the quality of those days. I don't recall anything about how A Nightmare On Elm Street looked in 1984 or 85, but it must have been pretty good otherwise I think I would remember. It was pretty scary being sat in that giant auditorium with about half a dozen other people.
John.
salut encore une belle vidèo sur se 4k UHD
Bonjour Alain et Merci. John.
Great review, john. I have the original quad poster at home also somewhere, plus twister was the 1st movie to have a dvd release in the US also. Brilliant film on the 4k format I loved it
It's a great film. I think I'd find it difficult to resist a 35mm print if someone offered me one for not too much money. John.
Top class review again John. I absolutely love ur content. Keep up the fantastic work 👍
Should be doing A Nightmare On Elm Street next Kyle which we plan to watch this evening. John.
@@moviecollector5920 that will be something i will look forward to my friend. I am a avid film collector myself and also a film reviewer. I write for my local papers. I love watching your content and i buy the 4k films you approve of John so i really appreciate your work 👍👍
Those 3D glasses look good on you John,don’t go outside you might start a trend. 😂👍
Thank you Stephen. They are original Freddy Vision glasses. John.
Hello John, great review - liked the latest headwear… miss the hats though.
Twister in 4K looks great on my projector and the green looks pretty realistic to photos I’ve seen of approaching storms on US.
Think other’s have mentioned, Dante’s Peak is getting a 4K release. I suspect Universal has done a 4K scan, so after Kino Lorber has had their US release window a UK independent may pick it up. Maybe Indicator as they have licensed Universal product before…
All the best, Steve
I do hope Dante's Peak appears as a 4K over here. Perhaps Universal will issue it themselves but if not I propose Second Sight Films. I'll write the book. And it will be a big book!
John.
Recently bought a US import double feature of dantes peak and daylight. Thoroughly enjoyed both but felt dantes peak definitely needs a 4k remaster.
Apparently a 4K of Dante's Peak is imminent from Kino Lorber which will mean a US or North American release only but I think Universal will get it issue elsewhere later as it's such a big title. Daylight is another great LaserDisc.
John.
Thank you John, love this!
Kino Lorber due to release Dante's Peak next year on 4k. Fingers crossed for an arrow release! 🙏🙏
I expect it will arrive here Mike. Perhaps Universal will issue it themselves. It's a big enough title after all and should be a good seller.
John.
The Dolby digital on the laser disc is incredible
It's the original cinema sound which is how this film should have been issued on 4K but it's a minor gripe. Twister always sounds brilliant irrespective of the sound format. John.
Dantes peak is fantastic always been shown on tv
But best on a big screen and preferably a huge screen!
Waiting for my 4k preorder 😙 One of my favorite movies ever! Looking forward to rewatch it again! Thanks for the review!! Ps: I agree on Dante’s peak!
Twister is a great film and this 4K is pretty wonderful. I'd have preferred one of the original soundtracks but it's a minor thing because Twister always sounds sensational. Dante's Peak is just about as good.
John.
I noticed that freeze on my oled John, for a split second I thought it was a fault but it's pretty obvious it's in the neg.
I also meant to talk about what happens at the end for the final shot when the titles come in after a while. I forgot to do so, so I put the detail of that in the description area. Optical title insert, original shot and then the addition of CGI looks to have turned it to mush.
John.
Sound is amazing in Atmos.
But better at The Empire in 1996. When a film sounds as good as Twister though it doesn't really matter where it plays because it always sounds fabulous. John.
I have just bought this movie on DVD for a friend of mine, cross fingers they will be happy with this version.
That DVD is probably better than the LaserDisc and I've always been happy with that so I'm sure your friend will be very happy with it. The sound is sensational whatever version you see, or hear.
John.
Why would anyone buy a DVD in 2024? Might as well have bought them the VHS.
@@bradallen8909 The VHS of this one if probably quite collectible today. DVD is surprisingly good through modern equipment and when new release DVD's come from the same master as a 4K, they can be astoundingly good. Don't write them off, particularly if you have a local shop like I do that sells 3 for £1... and that includes Blu-rays and occasionally 4K's in the deal too.
John.
Such a fun movie indeed!
Agreed!
Likeable characters, spectacular audio and visual effects, but alas I have never enjoyed Twister. I just don't believe it's a very good movie. However, it very definitely is worth watching one time. And this may be one of the very rare moments when I feel that a change to the original film; i.e., the green hue, was worthwhile. Certainly better than recent Lucas and Cameron failings. Nonetheless, thumbs up for an entertaining video.
If we all had the same opinion about everything Henri then we'd be a very odd species. Shame it's not still possible to see films such as Twister at The Empire as it was in 1996 but alas nothing stays the same forever. I would are anyone not to think it was great in there with that incredible THX system.
John.
Saw this at an old school cinema (pre multiplex) in early/mid 1990s. Loved it one my very early DVD 's Pleased its now on 4k. Bought it along with Twisters watched back to back on Sunday with the wind howling for real outside!!!! Like Dante's Peak hoping for UK release. Just noticed that The Sugarland Express has gone up for preorder and seems to be a very limited release. Anybody know when To catch a thief is coming out ? Nobody has it in stock release date was given as 14 October in UK. Thanks as always for the work you do John
Evening Mike. I don't tend to know when any of the releases are coming out but I always look at the HMV emails which tend to alert me to most of them. Second Sight and now 88 Films send me press releases so that helps. I suppose I could sign up to them all and maybe that's what we all should do.
By the way, Sugarland Express was first issued in 1979 or 1980. It was a Universal 8 2x400ft Super 8 release that was a successful cut down of the film to about 33 minutes. It's better than the complete film and much more repeatable!
John.
No mention of the great Mark Knopfler's 'Darling Pretty' on that soundtrack?
Yes, it is listed on there. But give me Sultans of Swing and Telegraph Road ahead of that one any day.
John.
Thanks for another great review John - saw this at the cinema in Bournemouth back in 1996 with dts sound - its long been used for thx demos along with the likes of Terminator 2 ‘back in the day’ - I need to pick this up on 4k 👍
It's like having a 35mm print on a disc so I think you'll be pleased with it. As for Terminator 2, Ben Wales is bringing his own 35mm print up to screen it here so I must try to shoot a video of that. Shame I don't have the 4K wax release to compare it to but I do have it full length on Super 8, LaserDisc and DVD.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 wow, that’ll be something to see ! I’ve seen it on all formats including 35mm in various cinemas when it released & own it on all formats - I’m actually ok with the wax version but will be interested to see your thoughts on the 35mm particularly the sound quality wish I was there to see that !!
@@1958_gibsonlespaul There were 70mm blow-ups for premiere houses and I saw one of those. Actually, I shot some Super 8 of the exterior of the Odeon Leicester Square while it was on and included it in a video about the last Terminator sequel 'Dark Fate'. That was over four years ago now but it's still up on UA-cam. As for the sound, it was sensational as I was six track magnetic on 70mm at the time but the 35mm prints were optical Dolby Stereo. I don't think the early attempt at digital cinema sound were applied to T2. It will still sound fabulous. Dolby Stereo is much underrated today but I sometimes find it to be better than the digital sound.
John.
Great video John! 🎉 im liking the tease for the next one 😁
Talking about the Freddy films was a good excuse to have a bit of fun at the end of this one. No doubt I'll don the glasses again for the review of the 1984 film. John.
Hi john
I have some reels of cine film which my friend got me from a jumble sale the reason they got them for me is because I'm a great fan of john Wayne's the alamo two of the reels have the alamo Richard Stillgoe BBC wrote on them I have no projector so can't view them but the film is very wide I don't know the gauge the other reels look like 8mm so I was wondering if I sent some pictures or the reels to you could you let me know what they are thanks
Just measure the width of the film John. If it's 16mm wide then you have 16mm film. If it's 8mm wide then it is one of two 8mm gauges; the first is the original 8mm which has an image area of 5mm and larger sprocke holes whereas the second is Super 8 which has an image area 6mm wide and a tiny sprocket hole. It really is that simple. I'd be surprised if the width of the film was more than 16mm but if it is then reply on here and we'll work it out.
John.
Hi John! Loved this 4k and don't mind the green look at all. I remember seeing Dante's Peak in a Future Shop store many years ago as a display in their tv surround sound rooms they used to have. You could wander in sit and watch while they attempted to make the sale lolololo...The bass was rumbling and the storm crackling as they tried to navigate across that bridge hahah Yes I would think Dante's Peak offers great 4k potential. Just purchased Nightmare on Elm Street this afternoon so look forward to your thoughts. I'm hearing great things about it. Meanwhile hope all is well across the pond and all the best D in BC!
Morning Dave. I'll probably watch A Nightmare On Elm Street on Saturday evening if you fancy flying over. It should be good because I'm sure I'd remember if the imagery was sub-par at the Leicester Square Theatre. Then again, it was bloody frightening being almost alone in that massive auditorium so perhaps I was distracted.
Dante's Peak is being issued as a 4K disc by Kino Lorber soon.
John.
Fantasic review john as always looking forward to elm street review
One, two, Freddy's coming for you. Soon Dave. John.
Thank you John.
You're welcome. Now to read your next couple of comments...
Love it and just got the new Twisters too, mandatory viewing in OK.
I'm struggling to work up the enthusiasm for Twisters Gary. You'll have to convince me. John.
The movie is just ok, but the Atmos track is outstanding. Think of a Triumph with battery power.
@@garyharper2943 A Triumph with battery power = an abomination! I hope the Twister sequel isn't quite that bad Gary!
Great that you have continued since the theft.
Enjoyed the vid & looking forward to the next.
All the best.
Appropriate hilarious ending.
I'm glad someone spotted those 3D glasses! Thanks Saint. John.
A good storm film is Kings Storm Of The Century. It needs a HD or 4k release.
I've never heard of that one Bob so I shall have to look it up. Aha, looked it up and it's a television mini-series.
John.
I can remember seeing this at the cinema myself at a vigin cinema 🎥 the sa round sound fir the twisters were amazing this a was a good rendition forgive spelling lol
The sound has always been fabulous on Twister Andrew but I didn't quite get up to how I remember it at The Empire with their unsurpassed THX system back in 1996. I'll have to reconfigure a little and give it another go because I think I can get it a little better.
John.
Dante's Peak is getting a 4K release - I think it’s a U.S. release though. *edit* yup, it’s a Kino Lorber so, a U.S. only (easy to get one though).
Send it over Richard!!! Seriously though, if someone is doing that in the USA it surely won't be long until a deal is made to release it over here too. Another great film for the ultimate THX cinema in 1996 (I think) with the greatest sound in the world at that time. Other opinions are available but it was the best I ever heard across the UK and the USA.
John.
Excellent review John, I'm a huge fan of Twister, I luckily got the special edition of it,will have a review up tomorrow...I did a review of A Nightmare On Elm Street 4k and thanks to yours and Trevors help its become my most successful video...looking forward to your take on Freddy 😊
Well done Marty. I hope your video for Twister is just as successful as A Nightmare On Elm Street. I'll probably watch that 4K on Saturday evening.
John.
I do miss those free mini posters
I've got more stashed away somewhere. John.
@@moviecollector5920bundles on ebay , guess jan de bont can't get rid of them
@@moviecollector5920 Is there a video in it?
I'm a massive fan of Dante's Peak. Kino are releasing it, but sadly as Kino, no Dolby Atmos 😢
It didn't have Dolby Atmos Condo so that's actually a good thing. Twister didn't sound quite right but that's because I know the film too well. Dante's Peak will sound great as long as it's the original Dolby Digital sound, or even the Dolby Stereo for that matter. I just hope a deal is done and it's released over here.
John.
@moviecollector5920 thanks, I value your opinion. I'll definitely pre order now. Love it!
@@condo0073 I hope you love it almost as much as I do Condo. Turn it up LOUD!
Saw it in theaters 96 used to own Both twister and Dantes peak on laserdisc here in the United States 🇺🇸 we don't get dolby vision
The NTSC LaserDiscs for both Twister and Dante's Peak are great... but a 4K of each is simply too tempting. John.
I just got my 35mm print of Twister sound mix is awesome dialog is crystal clear been running sony sdds. Green scene is very slight.
My print is very good condition
Send it over! I don't have the SDDS kit but I bet the Dolby Digital is brilliant too. I'll have to find out what we heard at The Empire in 1996 but I expect it was SDDS THX. Sensational! What a wonderful acquisition in 35mm. Well done.
John.
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It would had been a 35mm print at the Empire Leicester Square in DTS, certainly never a 70mm print at being screened at the Empire.
Although I don't have a 35mm print, but do have original DTS disks for this film.
Evening Ben. I wondered if it might have been SDDS but they're all equally good so I don't suppose I'd have been able to tell one from the other. It would be a good 35mm to run at home and if I saw a copy singing like a bird (cheap, cheap) then I don't think I'd be able to resist.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 so you didn't see a dts trailer as they would have put that on the platter
@@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748fng garbage trash near field mixes on my crappy home cinema
@@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748 I can't remember Andy. Ben Wales believes it was a 35mm screening in sync' with the DTS CD so you're probably right. If you happen to come across a print please send it my way! I think the original sound may be better than this latest re-working but equally it could be an incompatibility with my system causing the occasional muffled dialogue. John.
Have you seen twisters ?
Not yet. But I think I will soon. John.
Another great video John.. My 4 k Collectors Edition of twister will arrive tomorrow. The 4k of to catch a thief arrived today, i will watch in the evening. May i adk, what is your favorite 4k until now? Have a nice evening. Jens
I don't know what my favourite 4K is Jens but the best is TENET. No surprise there given how it was filmed. The only reason I haven't watched it to death on 4K is because I want to see it at the BFI IMAX again.... and again and again...
John.
I haven' t seen tenet at Cinema because of Covid. I have the 4 k but naturally it ist made for big Cinema. Maybe i have a chance in Future. At this Weekend i will Look the Interstellar (10 years Anniversary re- release) at Cinema.
@@JensStelzer Find somewhere running INTERSTELLAR in 70mm Jens. The prints are still about and it will be an absolute treat. Better still, the BFI IMAX are screening it at the moment so get on a plane and see the ultimate! If these films are just being video projected it's probably just as enjoyable to watch them at home.
John.
I remember that i read that in 2014 was one Copy of 70mm Interstellar at Berlin Zoo Palast. They had an 70 mm Projektor from the 80's in one room. I don't know If there is still one copy in Germany.
@@JensStelzer Somewhere in Germany has got to be screening it 70mm. Germany is still one of the biggest movie markets in the world to this day.
There's an idea. If you feel like doing something different show your collection of your favorite film soundtracks. Which ones were so good you were compelled to buy them. I enjoy collecting soundtracks of my favorites films.
That's one that would be interesting to make but wouldn't generate many views. There are a lot of subjects that I'd like to do but can't justify the time as the resultant upload would fail to find an audience. I have tried a few over the years and it's always disappointing. Phantasm is probably soundtrack I was most pleased to ever purchase. I was about 15 years old at the time and you don't forget getting hold of something special at that sort of age. As time goes on we tend to take things for granted.
John.
Great review 🎥🎥🎥🎥 Can you do a review you Laserdisc Collection please - Love to see what you have 💽🤟
I have shown quite a few LaserDiscs over the years but not many people would be interesting in a bespoke video about them. I'll continue to show them when they're relevant just as I do with the Super 8 features and trailers. I did do a video about Super 8 four years ago but hardly anyone watched it at the time.
John.
@@moviecollector5920 Do worry there are more fans of Laserdisc than you think. I have over 1500 of them and people like me like to see this, just throw one together and see where is goes you never know. Thanks for all your good work on YT
Have you ever collected cinema posters have. A friend from the cinema who.sends me cinema posters
Not really. But quite a few seem to have found their way to me. I need to get another quad poster frame so that we can have a fourth up in the house otherwise these cinematic works of art will all spend too much time in a cupboard.
John.
I tried to watch the new twister (remake or how you can call it) film two times now and always had to quit because it was so bad in my opinion. I quit my second try just a minute ago and shut off my projector to watch some youtube and look what was recommended to me: Your review of the old one on 4K. Funny.
Agreed. I didn’t find anything special about the new movie. Such a shame. I’m amazed that Hollywood can still have such an easy time making a good movie, but they still whiff it constantly.
Maybe I should wait to have a look at Twisters. It will get cheaper and probably also not a good idea to take a look so soon after seeing the great original. Nothing's going to come close but I do like Into The Storm so maybe I'll still enjoy Twisters.
John.
Christ you never chuck your old cinema tickets away do you ?
Nope. Well, I didn't but they're rarely worth keeping these days. Like cinema as a whole, even the tickets have gone downhill!
John.
Does that 4K have the same audio tracks as the German Turbine edition? Thats the edition I have and the audio on that disc is absolutely bowel-shattering! 🤌✨️
I think that Turbine came with the original cinema tracks so that's probably preferable in that regard as this has a re-work into Dolby Atmos which didn't sound quite right in places through my system. That can happen though so it's probably not a universal issue with all home systems. Twister always sounds fabulous irrespective of the format and any minor gripes I may have with the new track. The image quality is the big thing and on this 4K it's akin to having a 35mm print.
John.