Wow! That is so nice. Thank you so, so much. Can't tell you how much something like this means to us, especially considering the current state of the internet. Really appreciated.
...same here. Old VHS, cassettes, books. I even have 3 of those old table top cassette decks, work great and all 3 AC cords still good...which is amazing for 40+ year old cords. It was really handy just pressing Record and playing a riff or singing an idea, just to get it down before it's gone.
Old is gold. I can still use the Panasonic boom box I had in high school from 1988,but my phone is obsolete as soon as I walk out of the store. Progress?
@@neilthehermit4655 I had this feeling a couple years ago like I should start backing up as much media as possible. The Internet isn't the most reliable place to keep anything, and then recently, internet archive goes down. Movies being "on the Internet" really just means "stored somewhere else", so streaming those videos, you need a connection, and there's too much complicating it. So I have hard drives backing up music and games and everything. I buy physical copies whenever I can. This way my entertainment is safe, with me, uncensored and just as it always was. Even if the power went out I still have ways to watch a movie or hear music.
I have a laserdisc collection. I think it's worth keeping a lot of this stuff, time flies, eventually people;e will appreciate it again as a vintage item, eventually antique.
I knew this movie was hard to find on physical media... but only last week I found both Cocoon and Cocoon 2 at my local thrift store for $2.50 each. There is a higher force.
I'm with you, there (about physical media). I have either a VHS or a DVD (possibly both), just have to figure out where I put it or them. My reasoning was always more that I didn't need an Internet connection to watch it, that way, but now the whole availability thing is an even more compelling reason.
I grew up in the 80s, and this was simply an amazing film back then. Beautiful and amazing cast. Amazing story. Felt good after watching it. Miss those days.
Back in the days when each year would bring about 20 really good movies and a handful of really great movies. Now we're lucky to get one okay movie a year. 😒
You that is a really important point, you felt good after those films. They would follow you around offering perspectives, ideas. Most films offer CGI overloaded sequences but once the film is gone you're just kinda empty. Also I really miss the intermission and the billboards showing what movies are on display. The movies was a social event, and during the intermission forecasting, analysis, jokes, additional helpings of popcorn happened. It's part of what made them so incredibly different from watching stuff at home The mall and the movie theater had a very critical social role that is sorely missed.
I saw this film a few months back because my dad owns the DVD, and I borrowed it from him. Ripped it to a hard drive so we've got a back up copy of it as well. Such a good film.
There’s no mystery it’s due to legal dispute between producers Lili Fini Zanuck and David Brown following the death of Richard D Zanuck. This is just the most notable film affected. The rumour about score being the issue is because it is streaming in India with a new score, which was a common practice when dubbing and recutting movies for the Indian market back then.
@@steampunkdesperado8999 You could say the same about great art held in private collections by obscenely wealthy individuals. That never sees the light of day either.
I always acquire physical media for those reasons... and some others. Disney has a tendency to butcher... I mean, censor old movies. Look what they did to Splash in their streaming platform! The world seriously face the possibility of losing many american classic films in their original presentation, or completely, just like happened with many silent movies, now lost forever.
I have another classic that I grew up watching with my grand parents, parents, aunts, uncles...everyone adored it. John Boorman's Hope And Glory from 1987 about Billy and his family surviving WWII in England. It's not avaliable anywhere to stream for money, for free, to rent or to buy. What a gem of a film and it's gone. I loved watching it with my Canadian who lived in the USA, grand parents the most, they really appreciated the humor and the history.
I was fortunate enough to work on this film for 2 nights. I helped make the rain when the cocoon were being returned to the ocean. The cast were amazing and gracious , ( except one who won best actress Oscar a couple years later). Ron Howard and I share a birthrate, and he was as nice as his character " Richie Cunningham". Great memories.
@GiantFreakinRobot Same with Hume Cronyn! Early in his film career, he appeared in Doctor Pretorius with Carey Grant and seems ancient then. ACTING!!😊
Cocoon was a really sweet but kinda sad movie towards the end. I can't forget Brian Dennehy's line "Put. The cocoon. Down!".. I like the way you describe it as a nicely written drama about humanity, probably the only description that really fits. Was fortunate enough to have seen it half a dozen times before it went away
Thank you for this. I remember watching this film when it first came out. The similarities to Splash were a bit distracting - especially the ending - but the poignant and delightful storyline made it memorable. And as I have aged, the memories of this film have become even more meaningful. That it has been disappeared is an artistic tragedy.
I remember watching Cocoon when I was a kid in the 80s. My family had a VHS copy and we'd watch it all the time. It's a great flick. I was into collecting DVDs early on, I'm surprised it didn't end up in my collection when it came out, but who knew it would go OOP, and then I was in my 20s and had a limited hobby budget. While I do have a bit more spending cash now in my 50s, I'm not spending hundreds on this. I would happily buy the movie on 4K if they were to ever release it.
Classic Hollywood actor Tyrone Power's son Tyrone Power, Jr. is in this film. He's one of the non-speaking aliens, the dark haired one. He was the spitting image of his swashbuckling dad. He was also in Raiders of the Lost Ark. He was one of the German agents in the white suits and hats tailing Indy throughout the film. His last scene was where Indy threatens to blow up the Ark with a grenade launcher. He's the one who grabs Maryanne and uses her as a human shield in the canyon.
@@MundaneGray The ones who care already noticed the mistake, the rest of us don't care and knew exactly who he was talking about. If she were real, based on her character in the movies, she wouldn't care either.
You'll have to keep an eye on thrift shops. When some collector kicks it their spouse will dump the DVDs and VHSs at a thrift store along with their wardrobe.
And that's another example of why I went from super-fan to completely despise Disney. Ugghhh! I was lucky enough to be a teen during the 80's Satellite dish reign and watched this move at least a dozen times, it's gorgeus, and no, that I'm in my 50s. I get to value it even more.
I see I have a FEW old versions of this on one of my hard drives (6 x 22TB externals... and these are just BACKUPS!). ::hasn't bought "cable tv" since 2004... torrents ever since::
@@danjohnson887 At different points in time over the last 20+ years that may have been true. Now it's a MISSION. Studios often delete or alter scenes, be it "modern (woke retardation) sensibilities", like Fawlty Towers losing an ENTIRE episode called "Germans". Sometimes it's lines being changed. Sometimes it's recasting voice actors because they had a falling out with a studio. Sometimes it's a company (Beavis & Butt-Head, Daria) losing the rights to the music, leaving FANS having to "reconstruct" how the episodes actually aired... ...it feels almost like a DUTY to preserve media at its first-run incarnation.
@@JinzoCrash wow you sure are a fragile little flower who just bitches about everything no matter how dumb you sound! LMAO, you little guys choose the dumbest times to make the worst points and you just look like a little kid with a frigging load in his pants trying to act smart and it's pathetic.
If you can find it this is an excellent movie. I have in on my HD, can't remember where I got the copy (I copy everything I can from every source, digital media is so perishable.) What a pity more people can't enjoy this wonderful heartwarming film. The Mouse House is evil!
To be fair, I not so sure that the Mouse House is directly culpable for this one. Sounds more like plain old (greed-driven) squabbling between individuals, or the estates of individuals.
This is one of those cases were I think Pirating is ok. If Disney isn't going to let you buy it, and all you can do is pay an outrageous price for it in the used DVD market, just download it guilt free. You're not hurting the owner, because they apparently don't want your money.
Oh wow! I had completely forgotten about this film! I watched it back in the 80's! Time to take that digital copy and "liberate" it to all the sketchy movie streaming sites on the internerdz.
@@GiantFreakinRobot I got the VHS tapes of Star Wars in the '90's before DVDs were common. I found the DVD of Cocoon on eBay about 15 years ago when they were still available at a decent price.
Thanks so much for all the clips, synopsis, analysis, context, & behind-the-scenes goodies! I watched and loved _Cocoon_ in the 80s, but I'm quite sure that I was too young to fully appreciate it (here in 2024, I recently turned 51). I'd love to watch the whole film again someday!
A wonderful movie with some stellar performances by iconic actors in their twilight years. Don Ameche, Hume Cronyn and his wife of 52 years Jessica Tandy, Maureen Stapleton, Wilford Brimley and Jack Gilford. Great 80's stars Guttenburg , Brian Dennehy and character actor Clint Howard. Throw in Ron Howard Directing whose best friend in work and life was the iconic Andy Griffith and you have a caring and tender, sometimes funny, look at old age and life in toto. Another treasure stolen from us by Disney.
I remember watching Cocoon as an afternoon movie in Brazilian TV. Watched it at least a couple of times, and it is, in fact, a GREAT MOVIE, and a very good introduction to the sci-fi genre. Brazilian afternoon TV in the 80's and 90's had lots of awesome sci-fi like Cocoon, ET, Close encounters of the third kind and a few others. Thank you for reminding me of Cocoon.
This is why I prefer to pay to own the DVDs rather than enjoy my favorites for free on line or on UA-cam. The copyright owners can always pull them off line any time they want to.
Cocoon is currently available on blu ray in Germany, I picked up a copy for around 8 Euros a couple of weeks ago, unfortunately it's region B coded but if you have the means to play region B discs it's a great option.
It can't be lost as long as people have it on their hard discs and there are torrents online. Also, I think if it would disappear completely for a period of time, then people could put it on UA-cam. There are channels where you can watch old movies, e.g. Bergeron
I know where to watch it. Streaming, decent quality, no ads either. I'm about to watch it later tonight because I've been going back and watching everything i can think of from the 70s 80s and 90s. You can find it yourself if you search for it...
Torrents are one thing, but what people want is an actual Physical or Legitimate Streaming Release! Try to think of it this way... The Movie was a hit in its day, And those involved... Including the Family of actors who have long since passed... They earn Residual Royalties for sales... It about supporting the folks who gave us this classic... A Blur Ray or DVD release also guarantee's that it can reach a newer audience... With the Quality we want... You cannot always guarantee the Quality of a Torrent! Now, dont get me wrong... You have set me off... I will Torrent it! I love this movie! BUT... What I woudl prefer is to OWN IT!
@@Phoenix2312 Forgoing a sail on the high seas and not "owning" any copy at all, or going for a sail and getting a copy, both have the same result: no one sees any residuals. And no one will *get* any residuals unless/until legit copies are sold or the movie's streamed. I'd much rather have my copy and not give D'hisni a single cent, regardless.
I had the same issue waxing nostalgic for this film as i had watched it frequently at my grandmother's house at the beash as a kid. The wifey found a copy online for like 10 bucks but some were upwards of $100. Great film. Great memories. Classic 80s.
People need to understand that when a film is re-released on different media, everyone has to get paid and sign off again. This includes the multiple production companies, rights holders who made and financed the films. Except companies go out of business, others buy out their rights and can often become stumbling blocks for licensing issues. Same with estates of the deceased. Disney MAY own the IP and original release, and its various master media but they can’t do anything new with it without everyone signing off. This stuff happens frequently just not usually with films that were successful.
That's often not the case. Only, those who have contracts, that include a clause on future re-releases, get any claim to additional payments and for most actors that amounts to pennies per showing or media sale. Disney, just pays a flat fee to most staff and actors and are notorious for not honouring arrangements from companies they took over, so there must be something else behind this .
The problem is "rights" to "intellectual property" that last for eternity. Get rid of them. New law. Everything becomes Public Domain after 10 years. Period.
Yes, the stumbling blocks are most often music rights. This is why some films have certain scenes with music changed or edited on home media. I believe this is the problem with Cocoon with the song Gravity.
Did you have a real comment or just whatever that was supposed to be? I'm tired of morons making up stupid reasons to whine about Disney and pretending like vague bullshit is 'really salient commentary'.
@@jamescarter3196 damn clown! That was super derpy! What do you want, a bullet point presentation? You want me to write a book? I've made tons of comments on other channels. I've expressed the specifics of why I hate the current Disney leadership elsewhere. It wasn't necessary here. This was just one more reason to hate them. Go bother someone else with your single digit IQ garbage. I won't be able to see when you reply anymore. Muted.
@jamescarter3196 Clown alert! That was super derpy! What do you want, a bullet point presentation? You want me to write a book? I've made tons of comments on other channels. I've expressed the specifics of why I hate the current Disney leadership elsewhere. It wasn't necessary here. This was just one more reason to hate them. Go bother someone else with your single digit IQ garbage. I won't be able to see when you reply anymore.
@jamescarter3196 UA-cam won't let me reply to your derpy ÷÷÷. Every time I do, the AI deletes it. I'm literally using the same words you used, and it gets deleted. Muted
Had no idea it was not available to stream anywhere but yeah makes sense now that you mention it I haven’t seen the title or cover in decades. I had no desire to go back and watch it since they played it so often on tv growing up and it was one of my mother’s and grandmothers favorite movies so we watch it a lot as a kid. Same with the first Star Wars it’s forever burned into my brain trying to watch it now is quite boring unless I am in a group of people. So sad to see this gem go unwatched without riding the high seas
I've been thinking litigious red tape has been getting worse and this proves it, thanks for settling why the sequel was on streaming but not the original.😉
Blah blah blah, whining about Disney is fucking stupid, nothing else. It's pathetic that you can't make a point without having to idly bitch about something like a million other whiners. What's wrong, mad at 'woke'? That's usually the problem with you people, you're bigots and you hate Disney for not being bigots so you make up goofy complaints that don't make any sense and you wonder why people think you look stupid for it.
I remember watching this with my family back when it came out on video back in the mid/late 80s. What’s strange is I was just thinking about it the other day. A little spooky that this video shows up in my UA-cam feed.
Any film released for public viewing, either in a theater or other medium should never be allowed to be "held back" from being viewed again. Regardless of contracts. They should be perpetual, once signed, always signed.
This is why physical media will never truly die. Blu-Ray may be the latest for a while, if not indefinitely, but no server can hold every single movie and television show episode. Not even half. However, buying a out of country region code and a region free DVD/BLU player is certainly possible.
There is a problem with what is called disc rot. Vhs's won't last forever either. We want physical media, but in the future it won't be bought. It will be put on usb stick and flash drives and further into the future, usb's won't exist. That and the companies with ownership defintely will lobby for super strict laws so having anything on a hard copy will be against the law in itself. Wef - you Wil own nothing and be happy.
@@steevrawjers 🤣🤣🤣Yep im laughing BUT its so so true! i have disney + in the UK and since (along with other streaming sevices such as netflix, parmount plus and even amazon prime) we got an explosion of stuff duiring the covid pandemic i have noticed now that not so much new stuff comes on them now since the pandeimic is over and no one is in lockdown! ..IN FACT NETFLIX UK all you do seem to get on new things is a LOT of STUFF from INDIA, SOUTH KOREA , JAPAN OR TIWAN showing up in their playlists, nothing new as in english or american ....and what NEW stuff they do do in English they cancel after 1 series , gohst wars comes to mind and even the new show that debude last year the the dead boy detectives has been canceled! ..if it dont get the viewing figures they just give a series or show the chop!...I am seriously thinking about not renewing some of them as 1 its expensive keeping up multiple sunbscriptions and 2 why should i bother when they dont do anything new .....its like Paramount + now i only subbed cause in a BIG trek fan and wanted to watch the new shows , they have canceld a lot of them too ....and other shows they have like Halo that i like it takes them ages (sometimes up to 2 yrs) to produce and iar the next serires!
I remember this movie so vividly from my childhood, I watched it so many times over the course of the summer of maybe 86 or 87 on the HBO "free preview" that used to happen during the summers back then. Over the years I have often wondered why I never hear about it anymore.
i'm a big fan of reaction videos and always wondered why no one ever reviewed or even mentioned this movie. I remember it fondly and would love a rewatch. When I moved a decade ago I sold off most of my DVD and VHS collection b/c I simply got tired of lugging them around. Darn!
@@bearbrown2597 pretty weird you’re making this about LGBT people when Disney’s been pulling the same shenanigans for decades, ever since the days of VHS in fact
The local video store had heaps of copies of it and this used to be on TV all the time in the late 80s and 90s here in Australia. I don't think i've ever seen it a dvd of it. Crazy that the movie has vanished
We have this on DVD, bought in the early-mid 2000s, bought to replace our VHS copy we had. I never realised it wasn't available to stream or anything. Will have to get hold of a cheap DVD player and give it another look sometime as we've still got 100s of DVDs, but nothing to play them on.
I loved this movie as a kid and Steve guttenburg as well as all of the cast really I got severe bone cancer in 89 at 13 the video store let me rent for free all I had was four very boring TV stations ie days of our lives and a Nintendo with mario brothers and duck 🦆 hunt I very nearly died from the cancer but thankfully I made it through and being able to watch movies helped me escape and obviously a movie with this health and healing storyline meant a lot to me thanks for making this video to remind me I'll be looking out for a copy to buy and watch again now cheers 🤟
There should be an actual legal mechanism in place to protect such things - a bit like the idea of abandonware. When it is abundantly clear that the people who own the distribution rights have no intention of distributing the thing... the exclusivity of those rights should be forfeited; it should be legal for anyone to distribute and copy the thing.
This makes sense. There is a very old concept in law called "adverse possession" wherein a person who takes control of abandoned land and makes it productive can claim ownership after a number of years. I don't see why the concept shouldn't be extended to intellectual property.
Thanks
Wow! That is so nice. Thank you so, so much. Can't tell you how much something like this means to us, especially considering the current state of the internet. Really appreciated.
This is why I prefer physical copies of films where-ever possible. Charity shops/ thrift stores are gold mines for books and films.
...same here. Old VHS, cassettes, books. I even have 3 of those old table top cassette decks, work great and all 3 AC cords still good...which is amazing for 40+ year old cords. It was really handy just pressing Record and playing a riff or singing an idea, just to get it down before it's gone.
Old is gold. I can still use the Panasonic boom box I had in high school from 1988,but my phone is obsolete as soon as I walk out of the store. Progress?
@@neilthehermit4655 I had this feeling a couple years ago like I should start backing up as much media as possible. The Internet isn't the most reliable place to keep anything, and then recently, internet archive goes down. Movies being "on the Internet" really just means "stored somewhere else", so streaming those videos, you need a connection, and there's too much complicating it.
So I have hard drives backing up music and games and everything. I buy physical copies whenever I can. This way my entertainment is safe, with me, uncensored and just as it always was. Even if the power went out I still have ways to watch a movie or hear music.
I have a laserdisc collection. I think it's worth keeping a lot of this stuff, time flies, eventually people;e will appreciate it again as a vintage item, eventually antique.
Samsies but I have an Amazon movie list ready to buy a butt load of movies/tv shows,
I knew this movie was hard to find on physical media... but only last week I found both Cocoon and Cocoon 2 at my local thrift store for $2.50 each. There is a higher force.
I found the same in Amazon but for alot more. 8 bucks
It's not hard to find. It was in the 5 dollar dvd bins at walmart for years.
Thank god for The Pirate Bay because its very easy to find the blue ray of it there...
This is why sailing the high seas will never die.
It’s even a bit hard to find on the ocean.
I remember this movie,,and it's sequel. It's a shame you can't find on streaming channels
@@GiantFreakinRobot But not impossible.
Aye Jim lad.
@@GiantFreakinRobot Hm? I see at least a dozen versions available for evaluation purposes.
This and Battery's Not Included were always playing on my VHS back in the late 80s
OMG I **LOVE** Batteries Not Included and NEVER hear people talk about it!! Fantastic shout-out! ❤❤❤
As a red blooded man, I can confirm this is truth. Don’t forget the Barret Oliver tie in with Never Ending Story.
Funny you mention the two because whenever i see one of them it makes me think of the other. Was there some of the same actors in both?
Same. Love both movies.
I thought of Batteries Not Included as soon as he said Cocoon. Loved that movie!
I've had this on DVD for at least a decade already. This again is why I like having physical media.
I'm with you, there (about physical media). I have either a VHS or a DVD (possibly both), just have to figure out where I put it or them. My reasoning was always more that I didn't need an Internet connection to watch it, that way, but now the whole availability thing is an even more compelling reason.
Its online. All you need is an eyepatch.
was just about to comment the same thing. it amazes me how many people either don't know, or pretend to not know about torrenting.
Said better than I would have said it.
arrrrrggggghhhhhh ;)
Arrrgghh matey.
@PaxAlotin-j6r He is saying you cannot unless you pay through the nose.
I grew up in the 80s, and this was simply an amazing film back then. Beautiful and amazing cast. Amazing story. Felt good after watching it. Miss those days.
Back in the days when each year would bring about 20 really good movies and a handful of really great movies.
Now we're lucky to get one okay movie a year. 😒
You that is a really important point, you felt good after those films. They would follow you around offering perspectives, ideas. Most films offer CGI overloaded sequences but once the film is gone you're just kinda empty.
Also I really miss the intermission and the billboards showing what movies are on display. The movies was a social event, and during the intermission forecasting, analysis, jokes, additional helpings of popcorn happened. It's part of what made them so incredibly different from watching stuff at home
The mall and the movie theater had a very critical social role that is sorely missed.
I saw this film a few months back because my dad owns the DVD, and I borrowed it from him. Ripped it to a hard drive so we've got a back up copy of it as well. Such a good film.
There’s no mystery it’s due to legal dispute between producers Lili Fini Zanuck and David Brown following the death of Richard D Zanuck. This is just the most notable film affected.
The rumour about score being the issue is because it is streaming in India with a new score, which was a common practice when dubbing and recutting movies for the Indian market back then.
This happened in Europe as well - film in America had a score by one composer and in Europe by a different composer.
Freakin' idiots would bury a great film rather than share the profits. Shame!
@@steampunkdesperado8999 You could say the same about great art held in private collections by obscenely wealthy individuals. That never sees the light of day either.
Happens to old computer games all the time. No one can buy them, but abandonware sites list them unless they get a cease and desist notice.
This is why I have DVDs, that and added features.
I miss bonus features so much
I always acquire physical media for those reasons... and some others. Disney has a tendency to butcher... I mean, censor old movies. Look what they did to Splash in their streaming platform! The world seriously face the possibility of losing many american classic films in their original presentation, or completely, just like happened with many silent movies, now lost forever.
Same here. Will not let go of my 4k, blu ray or DVD
Physical media rules!!
@@GiantFreakinRobot Those corny 2000 dvd menus/ extra's is what makes them great.
Thanks for putting this video together! I had forgotten about this movie.
You’re welcome! This one was not easy but it’s such a great movie it’s worth it!
I have another classic that I grew up watching with my grand parents, parents, aunts, uncles...everyone adored it. John Boorman's Hope And Glory from 1987 about Billy and his family surviving WWII in England. It's not avaliable anywhere to stream for money, for free, to rent or to buy. What a gem of a film and it's gone. I loved watching it with my Canadian who lived in the USA, grand parents the most, they really appreciated the humor and the history.
I was fortunate enough to work on this film for 2 nights.
I helped make the rain when the cocoon were being returned to the ocean.
The cast were amazing and gracious , ( except one who won best actress Oscar a couple years later).
Ron Howard and I share a birthrate, and he was as nice as his character " Richie Cunningham".
Great memories.
It's Oppie, Oppie Cunningham.
@@bbbabrock No, Opie was on the Andy Griffith show and Richie Cunningham was on Happy Days
So you're the janitor who turned the hose on and still hasn't learned how to type.
Dude. Your rain was the best part of the movie.
@@HerbieBancockI'd be miserable too if my name was Herbie.
I just went to my local library and checked it out.
It was on TV all the time in the ’90s too, here in Sweden. I rewatched it recently, 6 months ago or so, and it holds up brilliantly.
Ouch. This movie was filmed in the Tampa Bay area and friends of mine, now deceased, were extras. This is a slap in the face.
Its available on Amazon for $20.00USD.
I have it on blu ray. Part 2 is not on blu ray. Pretty sure both are on dvd and vhs
The official blu ray i have is out of print
Thanks!!! Fortunely, I remember vividly that movie (I'm 53). Greetings from Mendoza, Argentina!!!
Prior to Star Trek II, James Horner did the score for Battle Beyond the Stars. Available on Prime music. It rocks!
Cocoon is an absolutely beautiful movie. So pleased I was able to see it…in the theater too.
Wilfred Brimley turned 50 years old while filming Cocoon. Let that sink in.
He was born old!
@GiantFreakinRobot Same with Hume Cronyn! Early in his film career, he appeared in Doctor Pretorius with Carey Grant and seems ancient then. ACTING!!😊
Diabetuhs
But he was playing a 65-70 year old and looked the part, so...
Good gig playing old fogies. Mirror that and you had Ralph Macchio and Michael j Fox playing teens well into their mid-to-late 20's!
Cocoon was a really sweet but kinda sad movie towards the end. I can't forget Brian Dennehy's line "Put. The cocoon. Down!".. I like the way you describe it as a nicely written drama about humanity, probably the only description that really fits. Was fortunate enough to have seen it half a dozen times before it went away
Great upload! One of the best Sci-fi of all time!
Thanks!!
Why Can't Criterion save this movie. It was a nice heartfelt fantasy movie
They should!
I was thinking the same thing too
Would Disney let them?
Thank you for this. I remember watching this film when it first came out. The similarities to Splash were a bit distracting - especially the ending - but the poignant and delightful storyline made it memorable. And as I have aged, the memories of this film have become even more meaningful. That it has been disappeared is an artistic tragedy.
I remember watching Cocoon when I was a kid in the 80s. My family had a VHS copy and we'd watch it all the time. It's a great flick. I was into collecting DVDs early on, I'm surprised it didn't end up in my collection when it came out, but who knew it would go OOP, and then I was in my 20s and had a limited hobby budget. While I do have a bit more spending cash now in my 50s, I'm not spending hundreds on this. I would happily buy the movie on 4K if they were to ever release it.
Classic Hollywood actor Tyrone Power's son Tyrone Power, Jr. is in this film. He's one of the non-speaking aliens, the dark haired one. He was the spitting image of his swashbuckling dad.
He was also in Raiders of the Lost Ark. He was one of the German agents in the white suits and hats tailing Indy throughout the film. His last scene was where Indy threatens to blow up the Ark with a grenade launcher. He's the one who grabs Maryanne and uses her as a human shield in the canyon.
Love this! Thanks for sharing!
Marian. Her name is Marian.
And Raquel Welch's daughter, Tahnee played the young female alien.
@@MundaneGray The ones who care already noticed the mistake, the rest of us don't care and knew exactly who he was talking about. If she were real, based on her character in the movies, she wouldn't care either.
Tell us you are Tyrone Power's son without telling us you are Tyrone Power's son.
You'll have to keep an eye on thrift shops. When some collector kicks it their spouse will dump the DVDs and VHSs at a thrift store along with their wardrobe.
Thank you for this video. This movie has now been archived
And that's another example of why I went from super-fan to completely despise Disney. Ugghhh!
I was lucky enough to be a teen during the 80's Satellite dish reign and watched this move at least a dozen times, it's gorgeus, and no, that I'm in my 50s. I get to value it even more.
Thanks for posting this.
You're welcome
So happy I have it on Blu-ray …
The cast of Cocoon was second to none. Love that movie. Jessica Tandy never made a bad move in her entire career. I have it on DVD.
When I was in high school, I gave a speech arguing that she was the best actress of the age. 20 years later, I still fee that way!
I heard Tandy was a B on set.
Yarr, it's streaming on my hard drive.
A true classic, and shouid be put on blu ray, special edition
It did get a good Blu-Ray release like 20 years ago. Its just out of print now
@@GiantFreakinRobot I could order it right now on 3 sites, one being -tha- the big A
This is why I quit streaming and went back to piracy 9 years ago. I rewatched this a couple of years ago. It was still good.
I see I have a FEW old versions of this on one of my hard drives (6 x 22TB externals... and these are just BACKUPS!). ::hasn't bought "cable tv" since 2004... torrents ever since::
@JinzoCrash Yep I'm the same, Torrents are king and I'll continue to put my faith in them as long as they're there for people to share.
No you just couldn't afford it...
@@danjohnson887 At different points in time over the last 20+ years that may have been true. Now it's a MISSION. Studios often delete or alter scenes, be it "modern (woke retardation) sensibilities", like Fawlty Towers losing an ENTIRE episode called "Germans". Sometimes it's lines being changed. Sometimes it's recasting voice actors because they had a falling out with a studio. Sometimes it's a company (Beavis & Butt-Head, Daria) losing the rights to the music, leaving FANS having to "reconstruct" how the episodes actually aired... ...it feels almost like a DUTY to preserve media at its first-run incarnation.
@@JinzoCrash wow you sure are a fragile little flower who just bitches about everything no matter how dumb you sound! LMAO, you little guys choose the dumbest times to make the worst points and you just look like a little kid with a frigging load in his pants trying to act smart and it's pathetic.
thank you for this video! It's been decades since I watched it upon VHS.
Yes, music rights, mostly of the pop songs rather than the main score, is the reason a LOT of movies don't get moved to new media.
Thank you for this video.
If you can find it this is an excellent movie. I have in on my HD, can't remember where I got the copy (I copy everything I can from every source, digital media is so perishable.) What a pity more people can't enjoy this wonderful heartwarming film. The Mouse House is evil!
To be fair, I not so sure that the Mouse House is directly culpable for this one. Sounds more like plain old (greed-driven) squabbling between individuals, or the estates of individuals.
Thanks for this. Cocoon is one of my favorite movies.
This is one of those cases were I think Pirating is ok. If Disney isn't going to let you buy it, and all you can do is pay an outrageous price for it in the used DVD market, just download it guilt free. You're not hurting the owner, because they apparently don't want your money.
Thanks for the reminder- just watched it- was fun!
I'm glad we reminded you, and I'm glad you enjoyed watching the movie again.
Oh wow! I had completely forgotten about this film! I watched it back in the 80's! Time to take that digital copy and "liberate" it to all the sketchy movie streaming sites on the internerdz.
Worth it, and thank you.
That movie was awesome. Haven't seen it in years, and now I know why... at least I think I know.
Yep, people are starting to forget it as a result
I remember going to see "Cocoon" (1985) in the theatre when it was released in June, I turned 9 in August.
I've got a copy of Cocoon on DVD and the original Star Wars trilogy on VHS. Physical media never dies.
Where and how?
@@GiantFreakinRobot I got the VHS tapes of Star Wars in the '90's before DVDs were common. I found the DVD of Cocoon on eBay about 15 years ago when they were still available at a decent price.
Except the DVD's degrade over time and good luck getting a replacement VHS player 10, 20, ... years in the future.
No, just the players you can watch them on.
But my player did.
Thanks so much for all the clips, synopsis, analysis, context, & behind-the-scenes goodies! I watched and loved _Cocoon_ in the 80s, but I'm quite sure that I was too young to fully appreciate it (here in 2024, I recently turned 51). I'd love to watch the whole film again someday!
You’re welcome!
A wonderful movie with some stellar performances by iconic actors in their twilight years. Don Ameche, Hume Cronyn and his wife of 52 years Jessica Tandy, Maureen Stapleton, Wilford Brimley and Jack Gilford. Great 80's stars Guttenburg , Brian Dennehy and character actor Clint Howard. Throw in Ron Howard Directing whose best friend in work and life was the iconic Andy Griffith and you have a caring and tender, sometimes funny, look at old age and life in toto. Another treasure stolen from us by Disney.
"It's so hard a cat couldn't scratch it"
I went to Amazon and saw quite a few used DVD copies. Bought one for $15 USD, shipping included. It works fine in Region 1.
I remember watching Cocoon as an afternoon movie in Brazilian TV. Watched it at least a couple of times, and it is, in fact, a GREAT MOVIE, and a very good introduction to the sci-fi genre. Brazilian afternoon TV in the 80's and 90's had lots of awesome sci-fi like Cocoon, ET, Close encounters of the third kind and a few others. Thank you for reminding me of Cocoon.
This is why I prefer to pay to own the DVDs rather than enjoy my favorites for free on line or on UA-cam. The copyright owners can always pull them off line any time they want to.
I remember as a kid I used to watch this movie all the time. When it came on late at night. I'd stay up and watch it
Cocoon is currently available on blu ray in Germany, I picked up a copy for around 8 Euros a couple of weeks ago, unfortunately it's region B coded but if you have the means to play region B discs it's a great option.
It was such a great movie. And so meaningful. I didn’t know why it disappeared.
It is really too bad that this movie seems lost. I have been wanting to watch it lately.
It's so, so incredibly hard to get. Best bet is eBay, but as we outlined in the video you may not like the cost.
It can't be lost as long as people have it on their hard discs and there are torrents online. Also, I think if it would disappear completely for a period of time, then people could put it on UA-cam. There are channels where you can watch old movies, e.g. Bergeron
if you just took 10 minutes to familiarize yourself with using torrents then you could be watching it today, for free.
I know where to watch it. Streaming, decent quality, no ads either. I'm about to watch it later tonight because I've been going back and watching everything i can think of from the 70s 80s and 90s. You can find it yourself if you search for it...
@@GiantFreakinRobot I managed to get a VHS copy today for 4.99. Now time to find a VHS player.
Thank you for your sacrifice for your art.🎭
This movie is still available on torrent, both parts, so it's not lost
Internet database has ..had it
@@--harry_ it's still there, I just watched it, gonna watch part 2 tomorrow, it may be out of print, but it still exists
Torrents are one thing, but what people want is an actual Physical or Legitimate Streaming Release! Try to think of it this way... The Movie was a hit in its day, And those involved... Including the Family of actors who have long since passed... They earn Residual Royalties for sales...
It about supporting the folks who gave us this classic... A Blur Ray or DVD release also guarantee's that it can reach a newer audience... With the Quality we want... You cannot always guarantee the Quality of a Torrent! Now, dont get me wrong... You have set me off... I will Torrent it! I love this movie!
BUT... What I woudl prefer is to OWN IT!
@@Phoenix2312 Forgoing a sail on the high seas and not "owning" any copy at all, or going for a sail and getting a copy, both have the same result: no one sees any residuals. And no one will *get* any residuals unless/until legit copies are sold or the movie's streamed.
I'd much rather have my copy and not give D'hisni a single cent, regardless.
This is even greyer than it already was. You are not stealing any money from Disney, they don't sell it ANYWHERE.
I had the same issue waxing nostalgic for this film as i had watched it frequently at my grandmother's house at the beash as a kid. The wifey found a copy online for like 10 bucks but some were upwards of $100. Great film. Great memories. Classic 80s.
People need to understand that when a film is re-released on different media, everyone has to get paid and sign off again. This includes the multiple production companies, rights holders who made and financed the films. Except companies go out of business, others buy out their rights and can often become stumbling blocks for licensing issues. Same with estates of the deceased.
Disney MAY own the IP and original release, and its various master media but they can’t do anything new with it without everyone signing off. This stuff happens frequently just not usually with films that were successful.
That's often not the case. Only, those who have contracts, that include a clause on future re-releases, get any claim to additional payments and for most actors that amounts to pennies per showing or media sale. Disney, just pays a flat fee to most staff and actors and are notorious for not honouring arrangements from companies they took over, so there must be something else behind this .
The problem is "rights" to "intellectual property" that last for eternity. Get rid of them. New law. Everything becomes Public Domain after 10 years. Period.
Noise.
Yes, the stumbling blocks are most often music rights. This is why some films have certain scenes with music changed or edited on home media. I believe this is the problem with Cocoon with the song Gravity.
Great movie. Another wonderful movie that is hard to find is Only the Lonely with John Candy. One of his best movies with an all star cast.
It is long past time for "GUTENAISSANCE"!
100%!!
This is wild! I was actually thinking about this movie the other day and why you never seem to come across it anywhere.
I'm so tired of the current Disney leadership.
Did you have a real comment or just whatever that was supposed to be? I'm tired of morons making up stupid reasons to whine about Disney and pretending like vague bullshit is 'really salient commentary'.
@jamescarter3196 Yeah. I'm tired of morons too. So I'll just mute you.
@@jamescarter3196 damn clown! That was super derpy!
What do you want, a bullet point presentation? You want me to write a book? I've made tons of comments on other channels. I've expressed the specifics of why I hate the current Disney leadership elsewhere. It wasn't necessary here. This was just one more reason to hate them.
Go bother someone else with your single digit IQ garbage. I won't be able to see when you reply anymore. Muted.
@jamescarter3196 Clown alert! That was super derpy!
What do you want, a bullet point presentation? You want me to write a book? I've made tons of comments on other channels. I've expressed the specifics of why I hate the current Disney leadership elsewhere. It wasn't necessary here. This was just one more reason to hate them.
Go bother someone else with your single digit IQ garbage. I won't be able to see when you reply anymore.
@jamescarter3196 UA-cam won't let me reply to your derpy ÷÷÷. Every time I do, the AI deletes it. I'm literally using the same words you used, and it gets deleted.
Muted
This makes me so sad!!! And I want to buy it right now! Hell, I might even try to buy yours from you!
I still have both Cocoon films on DVD.
Had no idea it was not available to stream anywhere but yeah makes sense now that you mention it I haven’t seen the title or cover in decades. I had no desire to go back and watch it since they played it so often on tv growing up and it was one of my mother’s and grandmothers favorite movies so we watch it a lot as a kid. Same with the first Star Wars it’s forever burned into my brain trying to watch it now is quite boring unless I am in a group of people. So sad to see this gem go unwatched without riding the high seas
Cocoon freakin Par Excellence a classic story of youthful young minds.
Is forgotten the cheating plot line until I rewatched. Youthful mistakes too
I literally just bought this movie on UA-cam for $9.99 After watching your video and remember how much I liked it.
That's great!!!
I have the vhs off this somewhere. This and close encounters were two of my favourites back then
If I remember correctly, that's Raquel Welch's daughter, Tawny, as the female alien.
Well. That explains why she sizzles. 😊
She looks like a Tawny.
It’s Tahnee, actually.
Saw Cocoon on TV last year. Haven’t looked again, will have to see if I can find it.
Steve Gutenberg? It’s obviously the Stonecutters.
that's who
No Homers
We do! WEEE DOOOOOOOOOOO!
I've been thinking litigious red tape has been getting worse and this proves it, thanks for settling why the sequel was on streaming but not the original.😉
Cocoon was a terrific film. Leave it to Disney to let such a good movie rot while they produce drek.
At least Gravity Falls, Amphibia and The Owl House were good, same with Solar Opposites.
I will be sending a sternly worded snail mail letter to their headquarters!
Blah blah blah, whining about Disney is fucking stupid, nothing else. It's pathetic that you can't make a point without having to idly bitch about something like a million other whiners. What's wrong, mad at 'woke'? That's usually the problem with you people, you're bigots and you hate Disney for not being bigots so you make up goofy complaints that don't make any sense and you wonder why people think you look stupid for it.
I saw this on the Scifi channel when I was a kid! I loved it!
Cocoon was & still is an excellent film.
I saw this movie on videotape when I was ten. My mom showed it to me.
I just remembered it all now.
This is poetic justice. Cocoon can't be found but Lifeforce, which it trounced at theaters back then, has become a certified cult classic.
Who do you want to look at, Wilford Brimley or Mathilda May?
I remember watching this with my family back when it came out on video back in the mid/late 80s. What’s strange is I was just thinking about it the other day. A little spooky that this video shows up in my UA-cam feed.
Any film released for public viewing, either in a theater or other medium should never be allowed to be "held back" from being viewed again. Regardless of contracts. They should be perpetual, once signed, always signed.
This movie was a favorite back in the day!!!! Everyone we knew had it on VHS and it was playing anytime we visited them!!!
This is why physical media will never truly die. Blu-Ray may be the latest for a while, if not indefinitely, but no server can hold every single movie and television show episode. Not even half. However, buying a out of country region code and a region free DVD/BLU player is certainly possible.
There is a problem with what is called disc rot. Vhs's won't last forever either. We want physical media, but in the future it won't be bought. It will be put on usb stick and flash drives and further into the future, usb's won't exist. That and the companies with ownership defintely will lobby for super strict laws so having anything on a hard copy will be against the law in itself.
Wef - you Wil own nothing and be happy.
This truly was a fantastic movie! Hard to believe that you can't see it anymore.
I’ve started boycotting Disney. I loved them as a kid. Now? They suck. They have ruined far too many good movies.
Yeah but wait until Snow White 4 or Bambi 6 or Mulan 7
That might surprise you
@@steevrawjers 🤣🤣🤣Yep im laughing BUT its so so true! i have disney + in the UK and since (along with other streaming sevices such as netflix, parmount plus and even amazon prime) we got an explosion of stuff duiring the covid pandemic i have noticed now that not so much new stuff comes on them now since the pandeimic is over and no one is in lockdown! ..IN FACT NETFLIX UK all you do seem to get on new things is a LOT of STUFF from INDIA, SOUTH KOREA , JAPAN OR TIWAN showing up in their playlists, nothing new as in english or american ....and what NEW stuff they do do in English they cancel after 1 series , gohst wars comes to mind and even the new show that debude last year the the dead boy detectives has been canceled! ..if it dont get the viewing figures they just give a series or show the chop!...I am seriously thinking about not renewing some of them as 1 its expensive keeping up multiple sunbscriptions and 2 why should i bother when they dont do anything new .....its like Paramount + now i only subbed cause in a BIG trek fan and wanted to watch the new shows , they have canceld a lot of them too ....and other shows they have like Halo that i like it takes them ages (sometimes up to 2 yrs) to produce and iar the next serires!
At least Gravity Falls, Amphibia and The Owl House were good, same with Solar Opposites.
@@steevrawjers Don't need more "surprises" like "live-action" Pinocchio sniffing horse shit in the middle of the street.
True, Hopefully Sony will be able to bring it out next year or 2026
I have it on VHS and DVD and I see it on DVD in the second hand shops very often. Must start buying up copies now
The internet isn't forever.
Was that supposed to mean something here? Go ahead and try a meaningful statement next.
@@jamescarter3196 He's talking about digital distribution, which is the topic of this video.
I remember this movie so vividly from my childhood, I watched it so many times over the course of the summer of maybe 86 or 87 on the HBO "free preview" that used to happen during the summers back then. Over the years I have often wondered why I never hear about it anymore.
I have a copy of Cocoon from the Family Dollar store, it came in a cardboard sleeve and only cost two dollars US. That was ten years or so ago.
Might be worth some money on eBay now, though I recommend keeping it and watching it.
Well I think I'll hold on to it, but it is ripped and lives on my media server along with Cocoon 2. 😊
i'm a big fan of reaction videos and always wondered why no one ever reviewed or even mentioned this movie. I remember it fondly and would love a rewatch. When I moved a decade ago I sold off most of my DVD and VHS collection b/c I simply got tired of lugging them around. Darn!
Damn I'm old, I saw this in theaters. Disney being bad guys, NOT SURPRISED!
Yeah expected at this point from them
@@bearbrown2597 pretty weird you’re making this about LGBT people when Disney’s been pulling the same shenanigans for decades, ever since the days of VHS in fact
Same. To both.
@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated ...Seriously? Why must you people make everything about your bigotry? You're weird.
@@paireon3419 I think you hit “reply” to the wrong person
The local video store had heaps of copies of it and this used to be on TV all the time in the late 80s and 90s here in Australia. I don't think i've ever seen it a dvd of it. Crazy that the movie has vanished
We have this on DVD, bought in the early-mid 2000s, bought to replace our VHS copy we had. I never realised it wasn't available to stream or anything. Will have to get hold of a cheap DVD player and give it another look sometime as we've still got 100s of DVDs, but nothing to play them on.
a playstation 2-4 should be able to handle dvd
Cocoon was a great movie. Didn't catch it in the theaters, but saw it when it came out on cable.
Didn't recognize sleeping Clint!
I loved this movie as a kid and Steve guttenburg as well as all of the cast really I got severe bone cancer in 89 at 13 the video store let me rent for free all I had was four very boring TV stations ie days of our lives and a Nintendo with mario brothers and duck 🦆 hunt I very nearly died from the cancer but thankfully I made it through and being able to watch movies helped me escape and obviously a movie with this health and healing storyline meant a lot to me thanks for making this video to remind me I'll be looking out for a copy to buy and watch again now cheers 🤟
There should be an actual legal mechanism in place to protect such things - a bit like the idea of abandonware. When it is abundantly clear that the people who own the distribution rights have no intention of distributing the thing... the exclusivity of those rights should be forfeited; it should be legal for anyone to distribute and copy the thing.
This makes sense. There is a very old concept in law called "adverse possession" wherein a person who takes control of abandoned land and makes it productive can claim ownership after a number of years. I don't see why the concept shouldn't be extended to intellectual property.
The movie is not lost. It's in national archives,
@@xavierhugonet6774 If it is not being legally copied and distributed, then its preservation is non-functional.
Saw it at the cinema back in 85, yeah haven't seen it since but remember it well, great film.