The Tonga, the Kariba Dam, and the Angry God
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- International Rivers' Africa Program Director Rudo Sanyanga tells a powerful story about the Tonga people of the Zambezi River.
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I'm a full blooded Tonga Man and we exist very well here in our mother Land
I once met one Tonga, old man in Zambia who also told me this story. He has some of his relatives on the Zimbabwean side, he says the lake separated them.
Am Tonga and am happy with the building of the dam . It has brought many benefits including electricity and fishing.
😢😢 it's sad to hear that from the African... you are happy but that's what killed your god and your mysteries 😢😢😢.. shame on the African man for his own ignorance is now his greatest enemy 😢😢 it's very sad
If you once live or visit KARIBA register here!!!!
Thanks to men who constructed the dam. When I walked across the bridge I couldn't believe my eyes, it's gorgeous
"The progress of rivers to the ocean is not so rapid as that of man to error." (Voltaire)
Great story, thank you for posting
I helped make a Documentary on Lake Kariba three years ago. Whilst we were filming,l traveled to Siavonga, and met with the Chief of the Tonga in Zambia. We spent the day together,one very interesting question l asked him was, If the Kariba Dam disappeared would you and your People be Happy. His answer was very surprising he said a definite No! he said myself and the Tongas realize the growth and benefits the Dam has brought to both Zambia and Zimbabwe. We most certainly would not want to see the Dam disappear!
Great progress comes with great price
When Arabs conquered Pharaoh, Tonga left Nile River in AD3.
The went East coast and found India ocean, and they followed it until they met mouth of Zambezi River.
That's a big reason they are situated that area all along, since AD4.
No man ruled Tonga people, that's why they even fought white man with Spears.
All over the world development has come at some sort of a price or certainly some consequence. Kariba is no exception.
Today the dam offers far more benefit to the region than the costs that were incurred.
Andito para sa assignment omcm
Hi nandito ako dahil sa module
Families were not separated. They were given a choice of which side of the river / lake they wanted to live.
They were separated,stop been Eurocentric.
@@mambo5476 I assume you were there ??
pluz if you miss your cousins on the other side, how about just cross the lake.
The question is without the dam only with their nyamu nyamu god, were they going to be happy nobantu?
Full story please
Very few facts in this video. What's with the "Men without needs"? The Tonga people did not live in the gorge, they lived a long way upstream of the dam here the valley was wide and habitable. Even today nobody lives in the gorge downstream of the dam.
@Noah Therriault Something new every day, never heard that before. Thanks.
You are actually the man without knees coz u come to Africa wearing a trouse covering your knees, 😀😀😀😀😀😀white people u are very clever guys ... U come and change 3verything and take everything
That was u white people😁😁😁😁you came wearing trousers so we couldnt see your knees lol
@@dzingaimlambosnr219 He he he, they still had knees but you just could not see them....They covered their knees because their knees were no one else's bees-knees....!
(PS. I heard they were referring to the locals as the "Three-knees-people".. ...; because they didn't cover their bees-knees and their bees-knees was plain for everyone to see...!)
We have never told you about white men history please allow us to tell our stories and myths as we please !
We have added a note to our rich history about the famous Kariba Dam along the Zambezi River.
I have teenage memories of sneaking onto the wall and then hearing bullhorns, men with guns pointed at us from one side and , over us from the other, so we run away laughing hoping they would not shoot. Pretty dumb thing to do looking back.... But then I was just a boy and they did let us go in the end.
Have you ever seen the nyami nyami?
U had the experience,I really would love to hear more.
No principality or power is equal in might to that of God, the Greatest of all. At God's single word of command, all things obey Him, including nyami nyami and the forces of chaos in the water.
Nyami-Nyami forever!
Zeph no
Rhodesian never die
@@thomaspritchett3972 It’s gone pal.😂 Where have you been hiding.
The Tonga people are living large now , they are benefiting hugely from the fishing industry & irrigation schemes along the lake . She doesn’t know what she is talking about
Nyami Nyami
I wish I knew why the dam was constructed for power generator?
IT is the main source of power in zambia....
main sourse of power in Zimbabwe too
Serious
there is one God. Ephesians 4:5
Uyanya wena that white man you pray to 😅
@N68199 in any religion, God is not human, His nature is not human. That should mean you cannot allocate any race to Him or skin color.
Busy believing in a book written by greedy white men 🚮🚮🚮continue praying the gay white man with blue eyes and suffer
The Kariba dam and others like it supply 93% of Zambia's power, without hydroelectric dams the whole country would be in the dark. The dam is currently in a state of disrepair, however, since erosion of the foundation has severely weakened it. If the Tonga get their wish and the dam collapses, their land will likely be rendered unusable by the floodwaters and thousands will be killed.
The development of the plunge pool was expected at time of design as it develops downstream of all spillways of this type, of which there are many. Whilst it is true that no others have required the 'improvement' work as is being carried out at present at Kariba the adjective "disrepair" seems rather harsh for maintenance work being carried out on a structure which has performed its function adequately for 60 years. The same can be said about the work being done on the spillway gates.
I met with the Tonga Chief in Siavonga Zambia, a few years back and asked him whether he and his people would welcome the Dam disappearing. He said a definite No,we appreciate the development that it has bought to Zambia and Zimbabwe.
"One side of the family was on one side of the river, and other sides were on the other side of the river. They had been separated. "
There's this thing called a boat... might wanna research what they are.
What are the tongas saying now since the dam is drying?
Tells by moon light, wasted time and data.
Thank you so much.
Beautiful told. ❤
We are experiencing the flood now😐😧2024
Mio caro padre lavorava sotto la impresa girola tra 50-60 era un grande lavoratore ce altri lavoratori che vogliono racontare e fa vedere foto da questo tempo saluti cari
We should appreciate would it not be Kariba dam where could we be interms of electricity Kariba dam is a munument for tge state not for region or particular section
did you say 'men without needs or knees came? Whichever, what did you mean?
You heard Correctly. The Europeans where wearing Long Trousers and there knees couldnt be seen, so they were referred to as 'Men without Knees' .
rakefarm nnh I see...but what about the cultural rule of Batonga that knees should be covered; also that the Italian workers in the great heat wore shorts. Was the comment then referring to the original 'negotiators' who flew in in suits? Wondered too if having knees means one is able to bow and be humble to authority?
all wyt pple back then were referred by the tame (vasina mabvi) men without knees
Men wothiut knees is in reference to europeans. Since they always wore triusers no one saw their knees
We study this in school
I wonder if the Tonga God sent in the Mami watta because of its disproval of the dam....hmmm that cant be.. the mami watta was around for thousand years.
talking about Mami water 💦 in this century says a lot about you.
The manupalation on people is on a level of evil.
She doesn't Know what she's Talking about cause Tonga people are still breathing in Motherland Kwathwakazi
I’m Tonga I’m still alive ❤
I am tonga I don't belong to mthwakazi or shonaland. We are unique in our own way. I live in Kariba and we are a lot here. Probably more than those in your so called mthwakazi. Its unfortunate that Kariba is under mashonaland west. We don't belong to neither shona or ndebeles..this should be renamed tongaland
Here we go again...tell us then your story
Aparantly, the Kariba wall is structurally flawed and indeed moves about 1 inch annually.
The Italian architect designed 3 dam walls in his life and committed suicide after one catastrophically failed.
I have read that Kariba, too, will collapse one day. Due to its inherent instability.
Knowing ZANU-PF I'm sure that they are well ahead in dealing with this! Haha!
So the Tonga Gods will prevail.
Nobody mentioned any specific time line.
Don't forget Ecclesiasties: all man's efforts are in vain.
The nyaminyami God did not cause that flood
hahahaah which happy ever after, are you saying since 1960's those people are still in need of that undeveloped land?. that dam collapse the nation (Zambia) will suffer for decades
Did they not all die after a terrible outbreak that happened in the camps that they occupied as they were ill and no medication could assist them?
JEHOVAH, ELSHADAI, ELOHIM, YAHWEH THE GREAT I AM OWNS THE UNIVERSE.
DURING RAHAB'S REIGN OF ISRAEL JEZEBEL HIS WIFE CREATED A SIMILAR PATTERN OF WORSHIP THAT HAS MADE GOD TO WITHHOLD RAIN. THINK ABOUT IT.
Let the Tonga people talk from themselves,why everything has to be Shona people shame on you Shona tribe
adjust the title to small letter g "god" there's only one and true God worth of that honour ,the creator of all things the God of Abraham,Isaac&Jacob....l can't believe people carried on the legacy of ancient Egyptians too much idolatry
Proverbs 31 woman we don't accept your blue eyed Jesus.
True that
Any God who is good, cares about global warming and the effects of dams on the environment.
Notice how that is a title and all words are capitalized
Yes, it's undeniably true that the symbolism of the people of ancient Kemet carries through into just about all Religions. Take the iconic image of Isis and Horus for example or any of the other pagan Mother and Child imagery, such as that of Athena and Ericthonios or Cybele and Attis and compare it with that of the Christian Mother of God, Mary and the Christ child. The symbols of Aphrodite, Persephone and Mary are the same. Yet the ancient people of Kemet did not have a word for "religion" at all in their hieroglyphic texts. They were not Religious, just deeply spiritual people who lived by the Ideals of Maat, the Goddess of Truth and Right. On that point, you will find that most of the Ten Commandments originate from these ethical ideals.Moses was an initiate of the old Mystery tradition as was Jesus by all accounts. The differences between ancient indigenous spirituality and certain contemporary Religions are mainly that the ancients did not fear death and did not have a concept of an eternal hell of punishment - and that the Divine Feminine (and women by extension) was given equal billing. Nature was very highly venerated and animals were held to be sacred, as is all life. Unfortunately, certain of the old Deities were demonized by the medieval Religious authorities, such as Set, the god of the natural night and the desert, who was made to be the Biblical Satan. Later on in Europe, the Divine Feminine was cast as the Queen of Demons and Her devotees as "evil witches" in league with the Devil. Evidently these false stereotypes still exist and some misguided folk still reinforce these stereotypes. Truth is that no indigenous people of the world knew about a Devil or a demonic host. They had better things to do with their lifetimes, such as setting a good precedent for the next.
Imagine how that dam improved life in Zimbabwe. The jobs it created.
Well worth having the Tonga people move.
The number of people who died building the dam is nothing compared to the number of people the ZANU PF government of Zimbabwe starves to death every year.
The Tonga and Subia people are cousins
Thanks God the dam was constructed because there was too much witchcraft
Biggest load of rubbish ever propagated about Kariba. Get your facts correct if you want to intertwine it in a fantasy story.
Nyam Nyam - those kapenta are mighty tasty.
Yes
Ooooo tasty kapenta... Tried other versions from Asia etc.. AHHH yak...
WE'LL KEEP THEM NORTHERN ZIMBABWEANS TILL THE RIVER RUN EM DRY FOR THE RHODESIAN NEVER DIE
Very soon you'll all be gone and good riddance
😅 It’s gone. 😂
The tremors are caused by the weight of the water 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 lets study geography shall we
The problem with the story, my sister, is that you are saying that these kneeless people prevailed over the Tonga Gods just by increasing the height of the wall?!?!
Surely that was foreseable by those gods. Not so? Then you are saying that the Gods ran out of options, and resorted to shaking the tectonic plate once in a while, but ever so gently as not to crack the dam wall. Dont we need a new story?
The purpose of the video is to do what?
Would you like the guilty people to break the down the dam /wall?
Mmmmm ?
😂we are forward not backwards 😅
what a load of brownies.
Thanks teacher, but you are a very poor story teller very boring could easily get a U+, I rest my case.
Primitive stories without attraction.
Wena, Tell us something that can put your country on top of the recognized countries not naming 'people without knees'
Don't even use a capital G cause it represents a real God.
I just wasted 2 mins of my life
Thts a blatant lie
What did I just watch 😭 I wasted 3 minutes of my life
It seems like a fake story but once you visit the place you will believe.
Thank you for saving my data and time 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉was about to watch it before I saw your comment kudos to you ❤❤
Rubbish
Liar.
Sorry complete Mythical superstition
The nyaminyami God did not cause that flood
thomas chiruka nyaminyami is a demon
Nyami Nyami is a deamon the from gods of lucifer. Put yourselves in that position
Rubbish