Skyrim Tournament - Conjurable Creatures
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- How do the three Atronachs compare to each other? How strong is a Wrathman? And what about everyone's favorite, the Dremora Lord? Let's find out!
For my tournament bracket system, I need exactly eight participants. I have 11 creatures here, so I added the preliminary section to get the number down to 8 until the bracket starts. Some unique powers/shouts, like Call of Valor, are not included, because the focus is on normal Conjuration spells. I also left out a couple creatures for specific reasons:
Flaming Familiar
Due to the nature of his attack, he will never win a round, and could only get a tie at best
Karstaag
He could single-handedly beat all the other summons at once with ease, which would make him the obvious winner of this tournament
Full list of the participants:
Familiar
Flame Atronach
Frost Atronach
Storm Atronach
Dremora Lord
Ash Spawn
Ash Guardian
Boneman
Mistman
Wrathman
Seeker
First song: We Will Win by Infraction
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Third song: Above The Clouds by Quantum Infinity
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This tournament was so much closer in quite a few rounds than the other, or at least it felt like it. Too bad most of the more mage-based creatures fell for the same trap of being backed into a corner. The moment this happened, it was pretty much over for them.
Some of those creatures did much better than I expected, yeah. 😄And I would think they have enough room to move around in the arena, but it doesn't seem like it. 😂
That happens in most gameplay as dungeons and crypts are closed spaces.
I never thought I’d feel so happy for a Dremora Lord 😂
He earned his victory! 🥳😂
The finals was a bonk contest
the vigilants of stendarr have their eyes on you
I love that this takes place in the Dwemer Colosseum.
Nice that you know it! 😁
This was really damn clever and cool. My money was on the Dremora Lord the whole time. They're so broken! You should do with again but with various mages.
Thank you! 😁 Yeah, I was expecting him to win too! I was really curious to see him agains the Wrathman though, he's pretty good too. I won't do another tournament soon because they take too long to make, but I probably will make more sometime! Thanks for the recommendation!
Their dialog is the real reason to select them even if they were weak in combat.
give this man a medal
Who? Me? 👀
Editing is insane was expecting wrath man to win. Dremora have more damage than expected
Thanks! 😁 The Wrathman is great, but the Dremora Lord definitely has the advantage because of his damage output
dremora have 100 one handed and two handed each bro
@@yyybbvdighjkg good point
Flame enchant on sword is OP. That ticking damage really whittles down health, and I think being on fire actually boosts damage taken from other sources.
I still think the Wrathman can sometimes beat the Dremora lord with some luck
He can, yeah. If the Dremora Lord blocks too often, that's when the Wrathman takes him out 😆
Not actually luck if the wrathman spawns with a dragonbone sword he beats the dremora lord most of the time
@@mohamedmaatougui2469 The Wrathmen spawn with unique dragonbone weapons that do significantly less damage than the ones the player can use. Dremora Lords do much more damage 😄
@@lSlendermaster i was more talking about how wrathmen (and any draugr in general) when wielding a 2 handed sword specifically they perform 2 swipes instead of 1, essentially double their damage output
@@mohamedmaatougui2469 those are slow though. If they were up against a fast dual wielder they would barely be able to land any hits.
I just noticed the people cheering in the stadium at the end lol! Really good. These should blow up soon. Best vs I've seen of skyrim characters!
Thank you very much, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 😁
This video was sick, crazy production, great music and outstanding camera movement
Keep doing your videos!!!!!
Thanks a lot!! 😁 I sure will!
I actually cried when I saw this new upload. My brains were just about get splattered all over the wall behind me when I sensed my phone vibrate.
Maybe there is something to life, after all. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.
This leaves me almost speechless. But let me tell you that there's always something to live for, and I'm very glad to hear that you're still around. Your life matters.
If you ever need someone to talk, there are people who are willing to listen.
2:00
"Cool guys don't look at explosions"
Exactly! 😎
This was sick. I'm very surprised by the outcome, the last time I had a Dremora Lord and Wrathman fight, they actually killed each other at the very same time haha. Probably because the Wrathman had that extra 100 health boost from Conjuration.
Very nice my friend, can't wait to see more. 😎
That sounds like a great outcome! 😂 Yeah, I always get that perk in my playthroughs, and I'm happy it applies to Wrathmen. I sometimes use them to tank the strongest enemies, and they do their job pretty well.
Thank you, good to hear! 😁 I have a lot of videos scheduled right now, so I hope there'll be something you like!
Wrathman and Dremora Lord are the best conjurable summons. If you want them to do damage, summon Dremora Lord, if you want your summons to tank the damage, summon Wrathman.
Exactly my experience too! I also use Storm Atronachs sometimes if I need someone with ranged attacks, like against dragons
I knew Dremora Lord would win, never expect less from him. Nice editing, you really deserve a like 👍
I thought so too! It's nice to see the actual result. 😁 Thanks, I appreciate it!
This was awesome. Also, I wonder how well Thalmor soldiers would fare against draugr deathlord archers or maybe death overlords
Thanks! 😁 The Thalmor don't do well against high-level draugr. They die in a few hits 😂
beautiful, I almost cried
Thank you! 😄
I prefer the wrathman still since they have so much more health. As a conjuror I need my summons to tank for me.
Fair point! I usually switch between Dremora Lords for damage, Wrathmen for tanking, and atronachs if ranged attacks and their elemental immunities matter, like against dragons.
Just consider that if the wrathman had the extra 100 hours boost from the perk, he might have won.
Good call, but the Dremora Lord's final hit put the Wrathman's HP down to -122 (you can see it in one frame if you pause), so it wouldn't have made a difference for this video. In general though, you're right of course! 😄
This is such a well-made series, I love everything about it!!! Thank you for all the entertainment ❤
Thanks a lot!! It always makes me happy to read that pepople enjoy it! 😁 I appreciate such a kind comment!
2:49 “let’s go baby,that’s what I’ve been waiting for”
Ahh, nice one 😆
Would love to see some sort of boss enemy tournament, or boss enemies vs like all the types of certain enemies. Like Forge master vs all the types of dragur, or Miraak vs all types of dragons
That concept sounds like my usual battle videos. 😄 I don't use the Forgemaster often though because he is bugged, and I try to mix up my rounds to have some variety, because I think it would get boring to watch otherwise 😅
Also the way Mistman could keep using ice spike with Boneman but had to resort to the shitty Frostbite with Wrathman
Yep, unfortunately. The Mistman uses the ice spike as ranged combat and sticks to frostbite for anyone in melee range :/
@@lSlendermaster where is the logic
@@Supcharged Error 404 😆
Ahora el Dremora con quienes debe batirse en duelo?
Deberías hacer el torneo en 10 categorías y colocar un torneo definitivo entre los ganadores de cada torneo...
Nivel soldados
Nivel ciudadanos
Nivel criaturas
Nivel bandidos
Y sucesivamente
ESTE VIDEO ME A ENCANTADO 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Those tournaments are very complicated to make, so I never make several in a row. 😅 I have made a normal episode with the Dremora Lord, if you'd like to take a look: ua-cam.com/video/sCF9Gc5xF4g/v-deo.html
And I'm glad you liked it! 🥳
I knew the Dremora Lord would this tournament, his pretty insane damage makes up for his low health, the dremora stand atop the conjurable world, without modded and creation club summons anyway, Awesome Video!
I agree! I was curious about him vs. the Wrathman, because the Wrathman does less damage but is much tankier. The Ash Guardian surprised me too, pretty strong. And thank you! 😁
Very nice, cool ! Dream fights. Thanks for this, nice job. Weit next battles...
Thanks, great to hear! 😁 My next battle is going to include a dragon 🐉
Nice vid, i was pulling for the storm atronach
Thanks! 😁 Definitely one of the most useful summons!
I love the grand champion arena maps they fight on. The colosseum map is my favorite but I wish it had NPC's in the stadium seating like this map does. Can't stop watching these videos once I start playing them it's good work you put in
Thank you! I was considering putting passive NPCs in my Colosseum too, but there are too many issues, so I decided to keep the ranks empty. 😅 I'm glad you enjoy the content!
I underestimated the Wrathman, i always tought the Dawnguard conjurations were shit... But damn he is strong.
To be fair, the Boneman and Mistman aren't good on higher levels, but yes, the Wrathman is decent! 😄
Gargoyles in my opinion are the best conjurations in Dawnguard life absorb and good armor
@@ianlove4876 Really? 🤔 I have never played as a vampire, but the normal Gargoyles seem really weak to me compared to something like a Dremora Lord 🤷♂
@@lSlendermaster Well dremora lord is pretty strong but keep in mind there are amulets that can help boost the amount of them and plus bandits usually carry at worst dwarven weapons
@@ianlove4876 There are amulets that allow you to have more than 2 Gargoyles? Am I getting that right? 😳
Are seekers just useless or do they have a strenght?
They're pretty bad, honestly. They have a good amount of health and can reduce their opponents' magicka, which can be useful against mages. Other than that, I wouldn't recommend them. Especially since you can only have one at a time, even with the Twin Souls perk 😂
Very epic
Nice to hear! 😁
There could be no other end. I was expecting this phrase
Awesome! 😎
My only question is Where is the undying ghost? I feel he should have been here
He's part of the Creations that I don't have 😅
So how do Dremora Lords compare to Dremora Valkwhatevers?
I was wondering the same, so I made an episode about Dremora Valkwhatevers a while ago: ua-cam.com/video/phYmAiSEIFk/v-deo.html
I really wasnt expecting a frost atronach to beat a flame atronach
Frost atronachs are actually really good for an adept spell! Among my favorite summons 😄
You know what'd be interesting. Charus fending against wild animals and hold guards. Hah, the way they charge at the camera saying "turn the camera off" or "stop recording" 😂
I decided to not watch your videos as often because I wanted to binge watch them like I did now, saves me from having to wait too long haha. Keep up the great work!
I'll include some Chaurus in a future video, I have some plans for that already! Not too soon though, because I have other creatures to do first. 😈
They want to make sure there are no witnesses after they've slain their enemies, smart guys! 🤣
It's good to see that you're still around! 😁 Makes sense, my uploads aren't very frequent. 😂 Thank you, and I hope you're enjoying the newest stuff! 😎
@@lSlendermaster lovin' it! Thanks for these, recently I've been trying out for myself with the faction changes and stuff, that video you made ages ago really helped!
Yeah, I'm still here checking out your videos in bulk, cause I'm notified when you upload, so I just save them into my watch later and then watch it all at once haha
@@Zepheray Ahh, those things can get really confusing. I'm glad it's helpful! 👍
Nice, that's good to know! 😂 A new video should come next week!
Boss tournament!! Ebony Warrior vs Harkon! Alduin vs Miirak! Left side of the bracket! For the right side Tsun vs Forgemaster and Karstagg vs the Arch Curate Vyrthur! We all know what the final will be!
I have avoided putting in the real powerhouses, because the results would be too obvious. 😅 Besides, I have already some several of those setups in normal episodes. Thanks for the suggestion anyway!
I smell weakness!
No match at all!
Awesome video 👌👌👌👌
Thank you!! 😄
I SMELL WEAKNESS
NO ONE ESCAPES
Before watching the Video I will bet on Storm attronarch. Seems easily the strongest.
Ah mod summons are included. The Ash guardian might be stronger.
The Storm Atronach is one of my favorite summons! 😎
No moddes ones, but Dawnguard and Dragonborn DLCs 😄
@@lSlendermaster Yes I mean Dlc. I thought Stormy wins because he is the best Player summon practically.
He can attack from distance while also being way more tanky than Deadric Lord which always gets One Shot and just sucks up mana.
But I guess the Deadra has the edge in Closed Arena short range combat. Though he also had an early start to bridge distance so I imagine this battle could have definitely gone both ways.
I wasn't sure about the Ash guardian since he is extremely hard to face in Legendary early game since his ash attack can't be dodged.
I eventually managed to cheese him in my lvl 1 run but it's extremely annoying. I am surprised that he is actually not higher lvl than Storm despite needing a heart stone and all.
@@eliasvonbrille For me, it really depends on the opponent. I like to use Storm Atronachs for ranged attacks (especially against flying dragons), Frost Atronachs for staggering bigger opponents, Wrathmen for tanking, and Dremora Lords for damage. The Potent Storm Atronach did better than I thought, and yes, he's pretty close to the Dremora Lord. 😄
The Ash Guardian also is much better than I expected. I almost never use them though because I don't want to clutter my inventory with heart stones 😂
@@lSlendermaster I don't think the Ash guardian has anything over Stormy tbh so I never use them either.
And yeah of course it depends on Opponents but generally Frosty or Stormy seem to most reliable.
Though I usually ban all Summons in my Legendary pd runs because they simply make the game too easy since you can just cheese pretty much everything.
Since I never use summons I am a bit clueless about their strengths.
@@eliasvonbrille The Ash Guardian does more damage, so he can act more like an enhanced Flame Atronach, and he's pretty tanky. 😄
Conjuration is one of my favorite schools of magic, so I always use it. 😂 You're right about legendary though. It's just completely unbalanced so I avoid it.
Understandable! I have tested many properties of them such as resistances and damage output per second, but in an actual fight, it gets more complex
Shame that arena is broken for AI. You can see how all range characters keep backing up into the gate ending up getting stuck in a corner.
Seem like AI doesn't know there is a gate. Would be a different story if range AI would bait around the arena.
Yeah, that arena isn't the best for this, sadly. I've seen a really cool colosseum map, but it's not available for download. :/
@@lSlendermaster , is there a reason why you don't use the vanilla world map?
You could use well know beautiful environments for battles. I am sure AI would have less problems navigating them.
I just think this could be a solution:)
@@chacknoris6552 I wanted an enclosed arena-like environment like this, and there's nothing in vanilla that really fits. 😅 At least I'm not aware of anything.
Most maps are either too small or too large, which leads to many problems, such as making good camera work impossible. This especially applies to smaller rooms, where I constantly end up moving the camera into a wall because both NPCs are at opposite sides of the room.
With larger maps indoors, there usually are different "levels" connected with stairs or something similar, and NPCs are terrible at navigating those and aiming with spells, let alone making it very hard to follow with the camera. If it's outdoors, it's usually not a flat area, so NPCs constantly get stuck on something, or move into something that I can't capture properly with the camera.
If you have any suggestions, feel free! I have tried many maps, but I'm open for suggestions 😄
@@lSlendermaster This is more complicated than I thought at first:D Will check a few places in mind and keep an eye out on my current playthrough. Hopefully will find smth worth mentioning 👍
@@chacknoris6552 Yeah, it's much more complex than it seems at first. 😅 Awesome, thank you!!
Wowoowowowow he's back
SHADY'S BACK 😎
good Tournament final match was close but the Stagger won the Dremora Lord the day. Would like to see more Tournaments
Thank you! 😄Yeah, it did. 😂 Awesome, there actually is going to be a new tournament soon!
Maybe you can also add the potent atronachs and the thralls + potent thralls.
all the ones here are already the potent version
Yep, those are the potent atronachs already. 😄The thralls aren't used much my players, and it would get too complicated having more participants
"No match at all..."
A lot of people were betting on him! 😎
When the dremora lord touches you, it's game over!
"No match at all!"
Thanks for making an 1v1 i hate groups fight.
Can you make for creatures ?
Good videos between
Good to hear! 😁 Creatures, as in animals?
@@lSlendermaster yeah like bears, mamouth... Also for followers vs i know i ask a lot lol anyway it would be great
@@frenzybrawlstars9449 I have thought about the first thing before, but I guess the mammoth would dominate. 😂 I'm also not interesting in follower setups because I find them boring. Who knows what I might do in the future though, we shall see 🤔
amazing work bro
Thank you!! 😁
Cool if any of them did anything other than go forward or back straight up?
They fought normally like the always do 🤷
When ever I play conjunction mage I've always noticed that the dremora lord and wrathman both do similar damage per hit but the dremora lord's faster swing speed and enchanted weapons always makes him the better summon
The Dremora Lord does much more damage, but the Wrathman has a lot more health. I like to use the Dremora for damage and anything else for distraction 😄
@lSlendermaster really I thought they had the same strike damage?
But either way the dremora lord is the best and my favorite
@@RoachdoggJR555 There are very few NPCs in the game who do the exact same melee damage. 😄I have done a lot of tests with various NPCs to get precise values, and the Dremora Lord's damage is far superior, with his power attacks doing more than double the damage of a Wrathman's power attacks. Of course, it's not that obvious if you can only see an opponent's healthbar with no numbers or anything. 😅
Same! I also use Storm Atronachs against ragons, and Frost Atronachs because they can stagger almost everyone
Well done, I look forward to a future tournament with the other summons that were missing from this video like the Golden Saints, Dark Seducers, et cetera.
Thank you! 😄 I don't have any Creation Club mods and probably never will, so that's not going to happpen. Sorry 😅
@@lSlendermaster Fortunately for us, some came with the Skyrim Anniversary Edition, that is how I got them because I was not going to pay for them separately.
@@goodjohnjr I paid for Special Edition, which I'm still using to this day 😄
@@lSlendermaster Hopefully they will make that available freely to everyone who paid for previous versions.
@@goodjohnjr I stick with the Special Edition because updating would permanently break some of my mods, like the floating healthbars. I'm also not interested in the additions introduced in the Anniversary Edition, so I never updated 😄
Before watching: should be ash guardian, since you need to sacrifice heart stone.
Unless the karstaag summon counts
The Ash Guardian surprised me, he's really good. And I feel like Karstaag doesn't count here. If he did, he would of course be the obvious winner 😂
@@lSlendermaster well i assume this was conjuration spell and not power/shout since otherwise dohnuver(butchered his name) would dominate i think. and idk how the 1 wizzard would do (from winterhold when you obtain the keening knife). And spectral assassin counted as follower in the tournament i recall^^
Then its just the call of valor shout warrior left.
I assume arvak would get wrecked.
@@killjoy7346 Yeah, the focus was on regular conjuration spells, which are much more commonly used. 😄The unique powers and shouts aren't featured, mainly because there are too many, and I wanted to keep things simple.
I honestly don't even know how Arvak would act. But he's not Shadowmere, so probably yes 😆
@@lSlendermaster arvak is just a tool to keep other horses in stable and to fast travel😜
@@killjoy7346 Exactly! 😆 Such a good horse 🐴
Love how the storm atronach celebrated
Nice way of looking at it 😂
How would the thrall variations of the atronachs compare? Don’t they have more hp. Also what about the Arniels shade and unbound dremora?
The thralls do have more health, but hardly any players use them. None of them are as powerful as a Dremora Lord anyway. I didn't include unique powers because things would get too long and complicated in the tournament, and the unbound Dremora isn't a normal conjuration spell you can use in battle anyway 😄
@@lSlendermaster ok I love the thralls personally they are good for different situations, also how did you get the ash guardian to move around cause when you summon it it stays in one spot. Also is. It more powerful than a storm atronach/thrall. Oh and which atronach is your favourite 🙂.
@@elric5371 When do you use the thralls? 🤔 I usually use a Dremora Lord for damage, a Wrathman or Frost Atronach for tanking, or a Storm Atronach if I need ranged attacks. But the thralls take too long to cast for me because of the master spell animation, so I'm interested to hear a different opinion. 😄
For me, the Ash Guardian moves around in combat, but stays in place otherwise. 🤔 And it's definitely stronger than any of the atronachs, including the thralls. A lot of health and higher damage output!
I actually prefer the Frost Atronach because he's a decent distraction and can stagger enemies well, even the bigger ones like Karstaag. I just wish he had some ranged attacks. 😂 What do you think?
@@elric5371 Ahh, I don't usually prepare myself for fights before they start, unless it's a boss battle. 😄I also walk around a lot in Skyrim, so I often have random encounters that happen unexpectedly and I have to react quickly. That's another reason why I prefer spells that are quick to cast. And I agree, I do find the atronachs/thralls more interesting to use too!
I honestly don't know how strong the ancient version really is, because I only get to see it once per playthrough. But looking at the stats, that seems promising! Frost Atronachs can stagger easily, so I can see the ancient one possibly beat a Dremora Lord, but not consistently. 🤔
@@lSlendermaster oh I have a few suggestions for battles i your interested,
You could use the arch cultists in Dragonborn as it has some pretty good stats the conjurer version has more hp than a night master vampire. and I think it would be interesting seeing it go up against a night master vampire.
I think you could also do like a mage tournament like conjures vs necromancers, pyromancers etc.
I think throwing in werewolves and bears could be cool.
Also you could use like levels in different rounds different levels of creatures like one round a night stalker vampire vs a draugr scourge etc.
Finally have you considered doing modded battles like the Summonable creatures from apocalypse and testing them against different creatures, always wondered about their stats?
man this conjurables ain't shit
A few are good, many are bad 😂
pls do followers tournament 🙏
I don't really find followers interesting, so I can't see myself do that. 😅 But thanks for the suggestion anyway!
Thanks for uploading this video i was looking for a dremora lord vs wrathman 1 v 1 and cant find it anywhere and now its here
You're welcome! 😄Yeah, I was surprised that nobody seemed to have done it before. So I took that opportunity 😎
Great video, but I am Roy Ross so I have to btch about one thing: some of the competitors seem way off balance, maybe you could level the playing field by choosing npcs who are more evenly matched. Just my two cents. Anyway, great vid.
Thank you! 😁 The idea was to compare most of the conjuration spells in the game. Some of which are way stronger than others. I get what you mean though. 😄 Most rounds in my usual videos are better matched, I think. The tournament is an exception
@@lSlendermaster thanks for explaining. Yeah, the fights in your regular vids are definitely pretty well balanced. I hope some of your future uploads have the Ebony Warrior get his ax whooped. I really hate that guy, he’s just Mary Sue who’s good at everything and his fans are so annoying and insufferable. Cheers
@@royrossiii9766 Thanks for the feedback! At least one of my next few videos will feature the Ebony Warrior having a hard time, so you might enjoy that 😆
I think malign zombie can beat Dremora Lord
Sorry, what's the first one? 👀 I assume it's a Creation Club mod?
@@lSlendermaster The name of the spell is "conjure malignant zombie"
@@claudiozimmermannjunior9118 Ah yeah, that's not a vanilla spell 😄
Can tell you put some effort into this gj
Thank you!! 😎
Интересный подход
Thank you! 😄
@@lSlendermaster You're welcome)
Yes been waiting for this your vids keep me Going bro
Thanks, awesome to hear! 😁
If u run out of ideas just use creatures from mods
@@stuartdolman7758 I am going to do that, actually! I still have lots of plans with vanilla creatures though. So either way, more content coming in the future 😄
Yes
@@stuartdolman7758 I find bandits rather boring. 🤷♂It would take an insane amount to take down the Ebony Warrior 😂
Karstag?
read description
@@Supcharged As Romi says, I explained it there. 😄Karstaag would wreck everyone with no effort 😆
Уровни не одинаковые, баланса нету между ними
This is a tournament with the conjuration spells. There are different levels, and the idea was to find out what the best one is. Of course, there's a wide variety between those in the game