I really wish these instruction booklets and photoetch were around when I was a teenager! Thank goodness for the internet, I'd have missed out on so much! I love watching you work, you're a legend, mate!
Harry Carrey Glasses! Priceless comment (and I'm a Cardinals fan). CV-6 is on my future build list. But I have to finish my Tirpitz (based on Trumpeter 1/200 Bismarck kit...so much kit basing to do). Loved your Mighty Mo build. My go to source for ship builds. Thanks.
In WW2, almost all of the hangar doors would be left open when conducting launch and recovery as they would warm up the engines in the hangar before raising the planes up to the flight deck via the elevators.
Would love to see you build this model 100% . Like watching you bending all the photo etching and everything evolved with this project. I don’t care if you make 3 hour videos.
Once again, a hearty well done! A couple of "builds to your fine presentation for those who may be on the "Pontos vs MK/KA" fence. Both are excellent products, but differ (as you point out) in their approach and depth of detail. MK/KA does a lot with overlaying the Trumpeter kit parts (for example adds railings to the Trumpeter catwalks), while Pontos has you toss out the Trumpeter catwalks and has you completely build the catwalks from brass (grates, understructure, rails, etc)... very delicate, but beautiful. Also, Pontos has you build duct work that sits along the outer hanger deck walls, while MK/KA either uses Trumpeter parts or does not address. The same is true for the details on the island, MK/KA often adds to Trumpeter kit parts, while Pontos tosses out Trumpeter parts and has you build from scratch. Another point is that you stressed the "need to get everything to fit together" YES, YES and YES!!! Unlike, say the Missouri kit, which had mostly stand-alone components, the Enterprise kit has many areas where the parts all have to mesh exactly. A small error in placement, or nub not filed off, or too much CA glue can result in rework to get everything to align properly. Yes, the Pontos instruction are larger and much better than the "good old days" (all the way back to last year!) I suggest and strongly recommend that modelers go to the Pontos website and download the instructions. This will allow you to blow up the pages to as much as 400X a can be invaluable for working on some of the uber-delicate assemblies. I now do my detail work in front of my PC so that I can see every last detail. Also, the website shows overall views that help with orientation of the assemblies (the instructions only show sub-assemblies), and provide some thoughts as to which roll up doors might be displayed open. Lastly, fear not.... Yes there's enough 20mm guns to put a big smile on your face (or not!), but the Enterprise has the early war version that is a bit simpler than our favorite Missouri version. The early version didn't have that funky electronic "box" on the shield and the "aiming thing" toward the rear. A small consolation, but could cut assembly time by about 25%. Again, great presentation. looking forward your build AFTER you slay the twin Titanic builds and settle into your new job. Best regards!
Honestly my biggest complaint with the PONTOS upgrade kits I had bought in the past was the super tiny pictures that came in the instructions. Seems like they fixed that issue finally.
Good video 📹, as per usual 👌, I like looking at the instructions because it gives you an idea of the build difficulty, parts, and if they are good for a difficult build. This ship will not be a beginner model hence possibly a difficult build. 😉
Been watching you since the Arizona build. In the future I do plan on building a ship myself and would strive to be as detailed as you are. With the high expense of the pontos and other kit . I was wondering if you have built anything from the metal earth or piececool models that are all metal and require bending metal into shapes. They can be very delicate to work with and as small as some of the details you work with. My thinking was to familiarize myself with these to prepair myself with the techniques required to work with the brass and much more expensive stuff. If you do try one please let us know if they translate to working with the brass kits. Or do a video of you building one to let us know if it does translate or not. Thanks for the great videos and keep up the great content!
@@TheMidwestModelShop yeah, pontos is building for all the versions that kit is labeled as--Yorktown, for instance never got quad 40s. And, you will have time to consider the options.
The red circle inside the star was deleted in mid-1942, later in the war, the "bar" was added. So, it would appear that this decal kit would be42-43 timeframe...
I am new to the channel. I love the presentation and I can't wait to see the Enterprise build start. Really looking forward to it. I am wary of telling an expert modeler how to go about their craft but make sure you use epoxy to secure the large brass plates. Other modelers have had them peel off using ca. Something to do with the brass expanding and contracting with temperature I think.
That’s great advice! I’m probably going to use E600. It’s very sticky right away, but takes 24 hours to fully cure. Allowing you time to make adjustments. When it finally sets up, it’s actually flexible. That will accommodate some movement.
Looking forward to this one, shame they've not done a Hornet set yet. Odd that the dry transfer sheet includes the 'Wasp' name as that wasn't a Yorktown class carrier...
@@TheMidwestModelShop ah yes. The fantail is the very stern section with gun tubs on. Unless there's something in the USN that I don't know in the Royal Navy its the quarterdeck
I looked this up. A fantail is an American name for the part of the aft decking that protrudes beyond the sternpost. So essentially if the deck goes further aft than the rudder. It can be called a fantail.
great post of the Pontos set. Between the two you will have one kick butt build. Ben, looking at the decals, they are common for multiple carriers so I am thinking maybe the large plane decals are for the Hornet B-25 Tokyo Raid. those wings would be large enough poaaibly
I doubt it. The Raid was April 18, 1942, when the planes still carried the tri color roundels. In fact Ted Lawson mentions in the book that Japanese on the ground waved to them as they flew low; probably seeing the red meatball much like their rising sun.
Absolutely will! The current progress has just been the regular deck fittings and there’s nothing to get excited about, there. But the cranes and lifeboats are a big deal.
I thought the KA kit was impressive, but man, the Pontos kit is off the charts. Ben, any idea if the Pontos kit includes all the deck hooks tie-downs and fittings that goes with the wooden deck, like the KA kit? Both kits combined, we’re looking at almost 1k$ in aftermarket parts…
I've noticed that most of the Pontos detail kits are more expensive than the actual model kit, but then again you get a ton of really really good stuff, veneer decking included, from what I can remember from just browsing Amazon and eBay (wishful thinking🙄) and a 200th scale Bismarck or Iowa runs around $250-350 and a full Pontos kit is $500+, that's a huge investment for a model kit but then again, how long is it gonna keep ya busy? I imagine a very long time and when it's done it's something that almost everyone will show just a little bit of interest when seeing it displayed in your home where as if it was a 16th scale tank nobody will probably ever take a second glance, but whatever, I wanna try one eventually but it's a huge commitment
Yes I do. Because they are essentially the same “kits” from Trumpeter. You’ll just have to figure out on your own, what’s “correct” for the ship you’re modeling.
Ben, I'm looking at doing the Enterprise as a build. I've looked at both your review vids for KA and Pontos. Which is the better one to get or is buying both and mixing/matching the better way?
Well, I’m mixing and matching for the best options. But if I could only pic one, for ease of assembly, I’d do KA. But if you want to replace most of the parts with PE around the bow and stern, Pontos.
Big question is this: What time period are you going for for the Big E? A lot of modifications took place over this ships career even from month to month during the war.
Are you saying that one has available two different kits? Or is it the same basic kit with two different styles and arrangements of aftermarket detailing?
KA currently has one kit. But they may introduce a second one with more PE. Pontos has a basic kit, and one with everything they offer. This kit from Pontos has everything they offer.
@@TheMidwestModelShop , thanks. My eyes lately have been terribly photosensitive and in pain, impairing reading, so I cannot always be certain of what I have seen or read. Please forgive me for my confusion. Did Trumpeter sometime ago issue a 1:200th-scale kit of the USS Hornet CV-8 U.S. Navy Yorktown-class Aircraft Carrier? And from that, have they more recently released a similar kit of the USS Enterprise CV-6 Aircraft Carrier? (This is what I thought I a couple of weeks ago had seen.) Are the items we just a while ago had discussed actual kits in their own right? Or are they comprehensive detail sets for the Trumpeter kits?
You are correct! The Hornet was released first and Enterprise next. These kits are supplemental to the ones released by Trumpeter. You must have trumpeters kit to take advantage of this detail set.
Since you have two detail sets what do you do with all of the duplicates? do you list them for sale or throw them into your spare parts bin? Don't you have two sets on the Titanics as well?
Always great to get un-needed, un-wanted advice from un-needed, un-wanted people. The rude, arrogant stuff is usually the best. Win friends and influence people Dave, that's the idea.👎 smfh.
Amazing kit😊
This thing is gonna be HUGE ... not only in scale but in detail. All the PE and the rest of it looks like a superior challenge.
I really wish these instruction booklets and photoetch were around when I was a teenager! Thank goodness for the internet, I'd have missed out on so much! I love watching you work, you're a legend, mate!
Harry Carrey Glasses! Priceless comment (and I'm a Cardinals fan). CV-6 is on my future build list. But I have to finish my Tirpitz (based on Trumpeter 1/200 Bismarck kit...so much kit basing to do). Loved your Mighty Mo build. My go to source for ship builds. Thanks.
Thank you, Kent!!!
With your work schedule and the level of detail on this ship,this should be a five year build!🤣
Let’s hope not!
In WW2, almost all of the hangar doors would be left open when conducting launch and recovery as they would warm up the engines in the hangar before raising the planes up to the flight deck via the elevators.
Great vid can't wait for build vid 🙏🙏👍🍺🍺💞💞
That's a great looking kit, plenty of parts.👌
Excellent looking forward 👍
Would love to see you build this model 100% . Like watching you bending all the photo etching and everything evolved with this project. I don’t care if you make 3 hour videos.
Me either! All that fiddly shrapnel forces you to go slow and careful!
Thanks for the video, from Scotland
Really enjoy your builds. Can't wait to see this one.
That will be one beautiful build. I do know will make it so.
Once again, a hearty well done! A couple of "builds to your fine presentation for those who may be on the "Pontos vs MK/KA" fence. Both are excellent products, but differ (as you point out) in their approach and depth of detail.
MK/KA does a lot with overlaying the Trumpeter kit parts (for example adds railings to the Trumpeter catwalks), while Pontos has you toss out the Trumpeter catwalks and has you completely build the catwalks from brass (grates, understructure, rails, etc)... very delicate, but beautiful. Also, Pontos has you build duct work that sits along the outer hanger deck walls, while MK/KA either uses Trumpeter parts or does not address. The same is true for the details on the island, MK/KA often adds to Trumpeter kit parts, while Pontos tosses out Trumpeter parts and has you build from scratch.
Another point is that you stressed the "need to get everything to fit together" YES, YES and YES!!! Unlike, say the Missouri kit, which had mostly stand-alone components, the Enterprise kit has many areas where the parts all have to mesh exactly. A small error in placement, or nub not filed off, or too much CA glue can result in rework to get everything to align properly.
Yes, the Pontos instruction are larger and much better than the "good old days" (all the way back to last year!) I suggest and strongly recommend that modelers go to the Pontos website and download the instructions. This will allow you to blow up the pages to as much as 400X a can be invaluable for working on some of the uber-delicate assemblies. I now do my detail work in front of my PC so that I can see every last detail. Also, the website shows overall views that help with orientation of the assemblies (the instructions only show sub-assemblies), and provide some thoughts as to which roll up doors might be displayed open.
Lastly, fear not.... Yes there's enough 20mm guns to put a big smile on your face (or not!), but the Enterprise has the early war version that is a bit simpler than our favorite Missouri version. The early version didn't have that funky electronic "box" on the shield and the "aiming thing" toward the rear. A small consolation, but could cut assembly time by about 25%.
Again, great presentation. looking forward your build AFTER you slay the twin Titanic builds and settle into your new job. Best regards!
Omg so beautiful. Looks fun to me.
Awesome deck good colouration, hopefully it installs well.
Honestly my biggest complaint with the PONTOS upgrade kits I had bought in the past was the super tiny pictures that came in the instructions. Seems like they fixed that issue finally.
Pad eye's, not tie down's. Look's like a really good kit, nice choice! Gonna be amazing to see when done!
true museum quality kit and aftermarket. gone are the weekend builds , it will take considerable effort to build the hd model
Good video 📹, as per usual 👌, I like looking at the instructions because it gives you an idea of the build difficulty, parts, and if they are good for a difficult build. This ship will not be a beginner model hence possibly a difficult build. 😉
This is going to be way cool. Still watching the two sinking ships, with great interest, but the Big E will be fun to watch, and learn from.
That's a fantastic PE set.
Love your review. Can't wait for the build but I'm enjoying the titanic.
The rondels on American aircraft in 1942 were up to 48" for all aircraft.
Really looking forward to this. I have the kit with the KA upgrade. Hopefully I can build it at the same time 👌
Ben gets excited over brass photo etched parts the way I do watching a Dua Lipa video.
😆🤣😆🤣😆
Thank you for this video Ben really appreciate telling the cost of that kit it's a little too much for me but it is nice thank you for sharing
I say leave them open the hanger doors I don't know if your in the 1/200 FB page but there have been some beautiful enterprise builds
Been watching you since the Arizona build. In the future I do plan on building a ship myself and would strive to be as detailed as you are. With the high expense of the pontos and other kit . I was wondering if you have built anything from the metal earth or piececool models that are all metal and require bending metal into shapes. They can be very delicate to work with and as small as some of the details you work with. My thinking was to familiarize myself with these to prepair myself with the techniques required to work with the brass and much more expensive stuff. If you do try one please let us know if they translate to working with the brass kits. Or do a video of you building one to let us know if it does translate or not. Thanks for the great videos and keep up the great content!
Looks like Pontos has included the quad 1.1" "chicago pianos" for Hornet--you'll have to watch to get the right armament for CV-6
Yeah I plan on figuring out what year/month I want to model and creating an armament list that’s appropriate.
@@TheMidwestModelShop yeah, pontos is building for all the versions that kit is labeled as--Yorktown, for instance never got quad 40s. And, you will have time to consider the options.
This set is about late 1942, so if some one want to make a Midway state(for example, me), there will be a lot of details need to be modified...
The red circle inside the star was deleted in mid-1942, later in the war, the "bar" was added. So, it would appear that this decal kit would be42-43 timeframe...
That’s encouraging because I’m thinking about a 1943 build.
I am new to the channel. I love the presentation and I can't wait to see the Enterprise build start. Really looking forward to it. I am wary of telling an expert modeler how to go about their craft but make sure you use epoxy to secure the large brass plates. Other modelers have had them peel off using ca. Something to do with the brass expanding and contracting with temperature I think.
That’s great advice! I’m probably going to use E600. It’s very sticky right away, but takes 24 hours to fully cure. Allowing you time to make adjustments. When it finally sets up, it’s actually flexible. That will accommodate some movement.
Gonna need to buy some more planes and use both PE sets to load her up
Looking forward to this one, shame they've not done a Hornet set yet. Odd that the dry transfer sheet includes the 'Wasp' name as that wasn't a Yorktown class carrier...
I was wondering about that when I saw the name 🤔 Glad you caught it too.
I can't wait for to get started on the big E. However, I really want to see the Titanic completed first...lol
Hi Ben. The back end is the quarterdeck. Sorry, just the sailor in me!!
No worries! I’ve got another guy telling me it’s the fantail!
@@TheMidwestModelShop ah yes. The fantail is the very stern section with gun tubs on. Unless there's something in the USN that I don't know in the Royal Navy its the quarterdeck
I looked this up. A fantail is an American name for the part of the aft decking that protrudes beyond the sternpost. So essentially if the deck goes further aft than the rudder. It can be called a fantail.
Excellent. I’ll probably call it “the back of the ship” just to keep my Air Force roots alive and well 😉
Esse set da Pontos vale cada centavo
great post of the Pontos set. Between the two you will have one kick butt build. Ben, looking at the decals, they are common for multiple carriers so I am thinking maybe the large plane decals are for the Hornet B-25 Tokyo Raid. those wings would be large enough poaaibly
I doubt it. The Raid was April 18, 1942, when the planes still carried the tri color roundels. In fact Ted Lawson mentions in the book that Japanese on the ground waved to them as they flew low; probably seeing the red meatball much like their rising sun.
Ben, the stern end of a warship is called the fantail. Not the poop deck.
Holy mackerel
Glad your going back to titanic. Hopefully you do a video on the cranes. And the life boats.
Absolutely will! The current progress has just been the regular deck fittings and there’s nothing to get excited about, there. But the cranes and lifeboats are a big deal.
I thought the KA kit was impressive, but man, the Pontos kit is off the charts. Ben, any idea if the Pontos kit includes all the deck hooks tie-downs and fittings that goes with the wooden deck, like the KA kit? Both kits combined, we’re looking at almost 1k$ in aftermarket parts…
I've noticed that most of the Pontos detail kits are more expensive than the actual model kit, but then again you get a ton of really really good stuff, veneer decking included, from what I can remember from just browsing Amazon and eBay (wishful thinking🙄) and a 200th scale Bismarck or Iowa runs around $250-350 and a full Pontos kit is $500+, that's a huge investment for a model kit but then again, how long is it gonna keep ya busy? I imagine a very long time and when it's done it's something that almost everyone will show just a little bit of interest when seeing it displayed in your home where as if it was a 16th scale tank nobody will probably ever take a second glance, but whatever, I wanna try one eventually but it's a huge commitment
Do you think that the after market kits made for the Enterprise CV-6 will work with Trumpeter’s Cv-5 Yorktown?
Yes I do. Because they are essentially the same “kits” from Trumpeter. You’ll just have to figure out on your own, what’s “correct” for the ship you’re modeling.
Thanks for your replay
Ben, I'm looking at doing the Enterprise as a build. I've looked at both your review vids for KA and Pontos. Which is the better one to get or is buying both and mixing/matching the better way?
Well, I’m mixing and matching for the best options. But if I could only pic one, for ease of assembly, I’d do KA. But if you want to replace most of the parts with PE around the bow and stern, Pontos.
@@TheMidwestModelShop thanks for the reply. This will be my first build this size and a first for that much photo-etch.
Big question is this: What time period are you going for for the Big E? A lot of modifications took place over this ships career even from month to month during the war.
Sometime in ‘43 before the refit. Unless the bulk of the parts work for a different time.
Are you saying that one has available two different kits? Or is it the same basic kit with two different styles and arrangements of aftermarket detailing?
KA currently has one kit. But they may introduce a second one with more PE. Pontos has a basic kit, and one with everything they offer. This kit from Pontos has everything they offer.
@@TheMidwestModelShop , thanks.
My eyes lately have been terribly photosensitive and in pain, impairing reading, so I cannot always be certain of what I have seen or read. Please forgive me for my confusion.
Did Trumpeter sometime ago issue a 1:200th-scale kit of the USS Hornet CV-8 U.S. Navy Yorktown-class Aircraft Carrier? And from that, have they more recently released a similar kit of the USS Enterprise CV-6 Aircraft Carrier? (This is what I thought I a couple of weeks ago had seen.)
Are the items we just a while ago had discussed actual kits in their own right? Or are they comprehensive detail sets for the Trumpeter kits?
You are correct! The Hornet was released first and Enterprise next. These kits are supplemental to the ones released by Trumpeter. You must have trumpeters kit to take advantage of this detail set.
i am looking for 1/200 crew can you show some sites to go to
Since you have two detail sets what do you do with all of the duplicates? do you list them for sale or throw them into your spare parts bin? Don't you have two sets on the Titanics as well?
So what's happened to the Titanic Build?
Nothing. I’m still working on it.
Great video as always Ben, do you know if china 3D are doing any bits for this model.
I doubt it.
@@TheMidwestModelShop pity that would really make it pop
How much will this kit cost based on everything you've bought so far?
I think I’ve got about $1100 in stuff. But 2/3rds of that are the aftermarket kits. The model itself is $400.
Little bit of photo-etched...
Bronzium, not brass, propellers.
Not much on the radar
FJB
Its a mask, you SHOULD know that if you are a modeller.
Well shucks, Dave. I didn’t know you were an expert 🤷🏻♂️ What’s your channel? I’d like to give it a like and subscribe.
Always great to get un-needed, un-wanted advice from un-needed, un-wanted people. The rude, arrogant stuff is usually the best. Win friends and influence people Dave, that's the idea.👎 smfh.