Just noticed your copy of "Mid Sized Power Boats" by David Pascoe. I'm enjoying reading this book too as I'm researching a 32' - 40' boat. Enjoying your search! Cheers!
Some good points -- great fly bridge, very nice pilothouse, usable cockpit. Main salon cramped for family of four. Staterooms will be dark -- a few, tiny portlights but almost no natural light. Side decks look very skimpy -- it could get hairy in some locks and docking situations. I encourage you to try to get an aft-cabin boat for privacy with an enclosed "porch" over the aft cabin that will allow for three living areas -- the salon, the porch and the fly bridge. Giving everyone space to spread out will be much appreciated after you are all together in a small space for several months.
Yes, John! Aft cabin sundeck is our favorite. 80’s vintage is our preference but harder to resell. Something like the Cruisers 4450 is a compromise (but no separate flybridge from sundeck).
@@onFIREfamily yes I think we are!!! The survey(s) went well, just some small issues and we also made a counter offer and it was accepted The papers are being put together, the USCG is filling out their records and the closing is coming up the first of August!! As we have said it may not be the boat we absolutely want but we don’t know what we want YET.but it’s the boat we need to start our boating adventure and do the loop!!! We really enjoy your search videos and wish you success in finding the right boat. This boat is located in Baltimore about 5 hours from our house so we will be able to get her ready for us and us ready for her in the next 9-10 months before we start.
@@onFIREfamily So we actually closed on the boat this past Wednesday! We are so happy and excited. And are looking forward to getting her and us ready for our next adventure "The Loop". So even though as part of the deal is a year at a marina in Baltimore, we are going to move her to NC so we closer, 2-2.5 hrs. as opposed to 5.5 hrs drive time. Wishing you success with your search for "The Loop" boat. We'll keep watching videos.
Big plus for the Navigator is a solid fiberglass hull, no wooden cores to worry about. 54" draft so plenty of areas along the ICW to be extra careful around, an 18 foot airdraft shouldn't cause any issues (as long as that's measured to the top of the nav light and not the top of the arch). The salon is definitely on the small side, but there are several living areas in the boat to spread out to.
Couldn't quite tell, are those TAMD63 or TAMD71 engines? Definitely EDC (Electronic Diesel Control) get all maintenance records. Has that been primarily a fresh water boat? Volvo calls for each 1000 hrs or two years to do a full disassembly/cleaning of the aftercoolers and heat exchangers. But so many of those fresh water boats are never touched. These don't seem to have a wrench mark on 'em.
@@onFIREfamily Sorry to be so late in response! Nothing specifically wrong with that engine, I have worked on that family (TAMD) series before. I'd just rather see ya with a set of "B" or "C" series Cummins, or a 3208 Cat. Parts are much less expensive and remanufactured components are available. A Cummins heat exchanger might be say $1300, the Volvo part might be $5,760 and you'll wait two weeks for it. As far as dealers/techs, on the coastal parts of your route you'll find lots of dealers for all makes, on the inland routes probably not marine specific techs as there's probably not enough work to specialize in. I've had a customer fly me to Ohio to work on his MAN's as he didn't know or trust anyone local. and he had the deep pockets to do it.
Curious how much harder and more costly it is to take a 53 around the loop (locks and available slips) versus something smaller. I’d be curious how much one pays for slip fees in certain size ranges for the entire trip and what percentage of ships are available for 50+ ‘ boats? Personal interest because we’ve decided to downsize from our 55 Sea Ray, dual engine to something 42-46c, single Diesel engine for the loop.
Thanks, Seth. The AGLCA has a good calculator for this if you look up similar boats. I’ve heard availability in this size range isn’t a problem. Cost is just for the extra ~10ft so maybe $20/night extra for most marinas? Single diesel will sip fuel also. Like your plan!!!
This in my opinion would be a “ bottom of the maybe group”. With all the locks you will be going through, you will appreciate full walk around exterior. If you run into a wind or current situation it could get really difficult to rapidly move aft to forward or vice versa. I’d also be leery of Volvo Penta engines. There are not a lot of boatyards along the loop that have you mechanics certified to work on Volvos. Plus parts availability can be a problem. You don’t want the expense of sitting at a marina for 2 weeks to obtain a $10 part. I also think the main salon could get real crowded real quick.
I encourage you to set foot on a full sized motor yacht. The reason I got the 48 ocean was the 1000 sq foot interior. Go on a 54 Hatteras or Jefferson. I do not think you will like these.
Ha! This market is so fast it’s crazy. We’re hesitant to publish videos on our true favorites because by the time we consider them, they could be gone! We’ll definitely find a way to celebrate our next subs milestone! Open to suggestions!
Just noticed your copy of "Mid Sized Power Boats" by David Pascoe. I'm enjoying reading this book too as I'm researching a 32' - 40' boat. Enjoying your search! Cheers!
It’s a great book! So much great info!
Some good points -- great fly bridge, very nice pilothouse, usable cockpit. Main salon cramped for family of four. Staterooms will be dark -- a few, tiny portlights but almost no natural light. Side decks look very skimpy -- it could get hairy in some locks and docking situations. I encourage you to try to get an aft-cabin boat for privacy with an enclosed "porch" over the aft cabin that will allow for three living areas -- the salon, the porch and the fly bridge. Giving everyone space to spread out will be much appreciated after you are all together in a small space for several months.
Yes, John! Aft cabin sundeck is our favorite. 80’s vintage is our preference but harder to resell. Something like the Cruisers 4450 is a compromise (but no separate flybridge from sundeck).
Looks great! It’s in the area you are looking AND it’s probably a fresh water boat.
Thanks, Wendy! So, are you guys boat owners yet?!?
@@onFIREfamily yes I think we are!!! The survey(s) went well, just some small issues and we also made a counter offer and it was accepted The papers are being put together, the USCG is filling out their records and the closing is coming up the first of August!! As we have said it may not be the boat we absolutely want but we don’t know what we want YET.but it’s the boat we need to start our boating adventure and do the loop!!! We really enjoy your search videos and wish you success in finding the right boat.
This boat is located in Baltimore about 5 hours from our house so we will be able to get her ready for us and us ready for her in the next 9-10 months before we start.
@@wendybusby9525 That's so awesome! Congratulations!
@@onFIREfamily So we actually closed on the boat this past Wednesday! We are so happy and excited. And are looking forward to getting her and us ready for our next adventure "The Loop". So even though as part of the deal is a year at a marina in Baltimore, we are going to move her to NC so we closer, 2-2.5 hrs. as opposed to 5.5 hrs drive time. Wishing you success with your search for "The Loop" boat. We'll keep watching videos.
Big plus for the Navigator is a solid fiberglass hull, no wooden cores to worry about. 54" draft so plenty of areas along the ICW to be extra careful around, an 18 foot airdraft shouldn't cause any issues (as long as that's measured to the top of the nav light and not the top of the arch). The salon is definitely on the small side, but there are several living areas in the boat to spread out to.
Yeah, thanks! Didn’t know about the solid hull. That’s a plus for sure.
I have not seen too many of these on the east coast.
Couldn't quite tell, are those TAMD63 or TAMD71 engines? Definitely EDC (Electronic Diesel Control) get all maintenance records. Has that been primarily a fresh water boat? Volvo calls for each 1000 hrs or two years to do a full disassembly/cleaning of the aftercoolers and heat exchangers. But so many of those fresh water boats are never touched. These don't seem to have a wrench mark on 'em.
TAMD72P-A per the listing. What’s your opinion on finding someone to work on Volvos on the loop? Common or not?
@@onFIREfamily Sorry to be so late in response! Nothing specifically wrong with that engine, I have worked on that family (TAMD) series before. I'd just rather see ya with a set of "B" or "C" series Cummins, or a 3208 Cat. Parts are much less expensive and remanufactured components are available. A Cummins heat exchanger might be say $1300, the Volvo part might be $5,760 and you'll wait two weeks for it. As far as dealers/techs, on the coastal parts of your route you'll find lots of dealers for all makes, on the inland routes probably not marine specific techs as there's probably not enough work to specialize in. I've had a customer fly me to Ohio to work on his MAN's as he didn't know or trust anyone local. and he had the deep pockets to do it.
@@Jethrosgarage good to know! Thanks!
Curious how much harder and more costly it is to take a 53 around the loop (locks and available slips) versus something smaller. I’d be curious how much one pays for slip fees in certain size ranges for the entire trip and what percentage of ships are available for 50+ ‘ boats? Personal interest because we’ve decided to downsize from our 55 Sea Ray, dual engine to something 42-46c, single Diesel engine for the loop.
Thanks, Seth. The AGLCA has a good calculator for this if you look up similar boats. I’ve heard availability in this size range isn’t a problem. Cost is just for the extra ~10ft so maybe $20/night extra for most marinas? Single diesel will sip fuel also. Like your plan!!!
This in my opinion would be a “ bottom of the maybe group”. With all the locks you will be going through, you will appreciate full walk around exterior. If you run into a wind or current situation it could get really difficult to rapidly move aft to forward or vice versa.
I’d also be leery of Volvo Penta engines. There are not a lot of boatyards along the loop that have you mechanics certified to work on Volvos. Plus parts availability can be a problem. You don’t want the expense of sitting at a marina for 2 weeks to obtain a $10 part. I also think the main salon could get real crowded real quick.
Good points as usual. Thanks, Roger.
When are you going to open the Buffalo Trace?
Funny you should ask! We just opened it!
1990 is when they moved from inside the gunnels to LOA.
Very helpful. Thanks!
Right where you want it. 10 months will go fast
It already feels like it’s going fast!
I encourage you to set foot on a full sized motor yacht. The reason I got the 48 ocean was the 1000 sq foot interior. Go on a 54 Hatteras or Jefferson. I do not think you will like these.
Thanks! It’s so hard on the West coast but we’re keeping our eyes out to set foot on one.
"Sale Pending" The onFIREfamily effect does it AGAIN! (PS: What are you going to do when you reach 100 subs?)
Ha! This market is so fast it’s crazy. We’re hesitant to publish videos on our true favorites because by the time we consider them, they could be gone! We’ll definitely find a way to celebrate our next subs milestone! Open to suggestions!