@@jaidenroberts05 yeah but they played true basketball, and it worked. i don’t disagree, the spurs are a boring team in general, they don’t have a large market
2015 was just insane. Someone was probably like: Nahhhh we are not giving it to the most dominant one like we always did, that's just so skin deep. Ohhh maybe we need to give some credit to a defensive guy who "locked" their super star. Although James still got 35 PPG, but hey, Iggy did his job :).
Outside of West it doesn't go to the most dominant. It goes to the best player on the winning team. Steph was way better than Iguadola hence why its a robbery. Also, Lebron shot terrible that entire finals. 39% from the field. He averaged 35 points on 33 shot attempts. That's why its called Iguadola locking Lebron up. Not the basic stats of points, rebounds and assists but the efficiency they were gotten on. Lebron was AU levels of shooting.
@@samraizshoaib585 and did you pull those stats right out your ass? Basketball reference shows that he shot 47.7% TS which is great when kyries injured and defence could target him.
Context matters though. While I do agree that LeBron was dominate and Steph actually could’ve won it, the context was the warriors were down 2-1 until they inserted Iggy into the starting lineup. That famous “death lineup” was part of the reason why they were able to unshackle Steph on offense. And while LeBron averaged 35ppg, anyone who was watching could tell that Iggy and Draymomd made him work his ass off for those points. So in hindsight we can look back and say it was terrible that steph didn’t win Finals MVP that year but I remember in the direct aftermath of that championship run most people weren’t mad that Iggy won it. And I say all of this as a huge supporter of Steph.
Its not disrespect bro, yea its really good but you act like that run is the best, that celtics defense was terrible, curry leads on points but thats it, also curry doesn't play defense, he has like one of the worst defensive net rating on that series, ill say its one of the best maybe A+, but its not really on the tier of 2016 lebron
@@MitsuboshiHikaruYes it is you’re just hating. Curry had literally no help going against the #1 team in the league just like Bron. Everyone said Curry needed KD and he would never win another ring. That is disrespect. He proved them wrong with a washed Klay, UFC Dray, and role players. Curry is and always has been THE WARRIORS. He made Klay and Dray who they are.
@@IamNotTrey as expected of yall, warriors fans, always want steph to be the best, i didnt say he's F tier, what are you yapping about??, you acting like i put that stephs run in F tier, "oh youre hating cause you put steph curry in A+", like wtf?
@@Jin-po1rvIt's not their fault, are we forgetting they faced the Sixers with Embiid, Butler and a formerly good Simmons? Then at ECF against a momentum-filled giannis.
@@jerodgraham6623Well obviously. That team was the most powerful team in sports history. KD getting injured just made it equal. Curry or KD has to be injured for it to be fair. Even if KD was healthy, Kawhi would still most likely end up being the best player in the series. He proved he was the best player that year and I dont think there’s much debate about it.
curry was inefficient as hell in that series, iggy held lebron to 38% shooting which hadn’t been done before, without iggy locking up bron, bron puts up 45ppg and single-handedly beats the warriors
@@kidsseecudi3408 that may be so, but you can recognize the absurdity of 35 ppg being considered "locked up" at that point just give It to LeBron even if he lost. It wouldn't be the first time
Bro Kawhi is definitely A. Man hit the buzzer beater 3 pointer jumping to the side and it couldn’t have been a more anxious moments when that ball was waiting to go in on the rim
I feel like that raptors run with Kawhi was probably the most iconic run. I mean, they didn’t go against any chumps either, a hungry Giannis, an embiid in the second round isn’t that difficult, and then a curry. Yeah that’s a way more impressive run than a lot of others who went through easier conferences.
@@BIuezy people always say this, but this was literally a 1v1 basically of two great player in Kawhi and curry. I mean curry I guess got some of his own medicine for all those LeBron beat downs as basically a 3v1 game all those years. Idk why people keep on bringing this up, in 2015 the warriors beat a depleted Cavs and people always use this as a moment curry did everything himself like the Cavs didn’t have a injured Kevin love and Kyrie. -from what I’ve seen the 2015 warriors would’ve been smoked had the Cavs been healthy So please stop mentioning 2 of your important players being injured would change the series, we know how sports work, this was literally used to the warriors advantage to kick start their dynasty in 2015.
@@milktea2422 I'm not a warriors fan, I'm a Cavs fan, I hold people accountable whenever they act like 2015 proved anything. I'm saying it was a very impressive run but the fact that golden state wasn't at full power, kind of takes points off it. Kawhi was the best player in that series regardless of if KD played or not, but it was obvious how stupidly talented the warriors team was at full health. Kawhi gets like an A+ for that season though. I'm forever thankful for what the Raptors did to the warriors.
@@rahqoun9735 against a "injured" 73-9 team lol also being on the same tier does not equal being equal if you get what I mean Tier lists don't work like that
I find it funny also how with Igudola winning it because of great defense (even though Lebron was still dominating) its indirectly making it seem like Lerbon played no defense.
Did anybody else notice when Kawhi hit the buzzer, it was actually on Joel and they hated ben simmons so much that the announcer said "defend ed by SIMMONS!"😂
That wasn't in the finals though. Kawhi had his weakest series in the NBA finals and barely beat a Warriors team with no KD and Klay. A is way too high for that finals MVP.
I hate that 2016 is just looked at as lebron’s greatest accomplishment. We got an all time generational performance from kyrie in those finals. But people will never give him his deserved credit and only bring up the shot
How the hell was Steph’s mvp not S tier that arguably was one of the most single handedly best performances I’ve ever seen in the finals he averaged like 37 points against the best defensive team in 15 years
the celtics defense wasn’t even the best in the league that year. curry averaged 30, all he lead in was points that series, lebron lead in every single category, curry didn’t play defense well that series either, lebron did that’s the difference. the 2020 lakers were the best defensive team in the 2010’s and 20’s, the celtics weren’t top 7.
Lol lebron lesd every single category on the court while coming back down from 3-1 against the best team of all time record wise. You warriors fans are absolutely insane if you think those 2 are on the same level 🤦🏽♂️
@@Nee19258steph deserve it he was dominant at the time but the voters was like "man look at this iguodala man locking up a super star man give him the fmvp man" it was robberyy
People act like Steph deserved that 2015 finals mvp the dude shot 44% from the field and 38% from 3 and averaged 5 turnovers a game what are we talking about.
@@BIuezy I literally said the entire finals series. And you deliberately point out a different stat. That's so pathetic. LeBron shoots 39% on the field, That's horrible. Also, he got triple teamed? Lmao. 🤡
@@mionatsume5071 aye lebron is the only guy on his team bro. Curry got kd and klay and Ben draymond to control the offense for him. Draymond is a great playmaker
For real they were downed 2-1 would have been 3-0 if kyrie didn't got injured in game 1 from game 4-6 iggy tied steph in points in game 4 and game 6 and held lebron to 20 points in game 5
@KaguyaShinomiya-be5rg don't bring facts into this. They don't look at he whole picture. He didn't slow him down but made him work for those points. If Iggy didn't start, Cleveland might won.. Plus let's be real just Kyrie healthy would won that rjng
@@accountant3847Plus whether it’s fair or not, I think a lot of people (myself included) do believe that the raptors won primarily because KD got injured. Also as a result, Kawhi didn’t have to guard him. Not Toronto’s fault, but for some people, that is absolutely a factor when they look back at that series.
@@jerodgraham6623 I have a strong feeling Kawhi would’ve been able to guard Durant pretty easily. But Toronto would’ve still lost because KD is only like a quarter of their fucking truck of roster power
As a Warriors fan who watched the 2015 finals. Without Iggy they lose. You can say the same for Curry but Iggy changed the series completely. He deserved that FMVP
@@KaguyaShinomiya-be5rgexactly they looking at totals. LOOK how many times Iggy had to make LBJ shoot yo earn his points. 15-34 game 4 and 7-22 game 5. Like said if Iggy didn't start, series might wrnt to Cleveland. People just look at scoring which Curry didn't do much more than Iggy last 3 games
Id say 2022 curry is S just cuz he averaged like 32 ppg on excellent shooting splits and basically ran a 1 man offense with Wiggins and Poole occasionally putting up 20
Andre Iguodala deserved the finals MVP because the Warriors were losing against LeBron even with Curry. Curry didn't step up or play better to flip the series. Andre Iguodala couldn't stop LeBron but he did a better job than the rest of the Warriors team at slowing him down. There was a noticeable decrease in LeBron's field goal percentage when Iguodala was the primary defender on him.
@@patrykkuffel2679 played like shit game 5. Wiggins was consistent last three games. Balled out and bailed them out too with clutch shots and defense. I ain't saying he didn't deserve MVP, but it wasn't A tier.
@jlruiz3895 Steph played ok in game 5. He just wasn't hitting the 3s. Steph had that all-career performance in game 4 and was consistent the whole series. I don't think a teammate playing well should discredit you. Everyone agrees Lebron's MVP was S tier, but remember, Kyrie went OFF in the finals, too.
Just bc he hit a 3 and had the same 41pta in a game doesn't mean he bailed the team. Wiggins consistent play game Steph more opportunities to be him. Nothing wrong with a B. U guys acting like he was and f 😂😂
I think there was a bigger nuance than just stats for iggy, the turning point in the series was when he started so that’s why they gave it to him. The real finals MVP was Steve Kerr in that case cause he made the adjustments
That series was over before they put Iggy on Lebron. Yeah Lebron was still great but his shooting percentage’s dropped turnovers went up after the switch. Iggy was the X factor
Leonard is always an S, he made lebron average in 2014, most of the stats lebron had are in garbage time, that S tier of lebron, We know who saved him, These guys are just based their decisions on stats/box scores
Kawhi is definitely an S, don’t think y’all deep how significant it was for him to bring a chip to Toronto, a team who prior to Kawhi was always viewed as a laughing stock before 2019, he averaged 30, 9 and 4 for the entire playoffs on 50% efficiency from the field, and against Philly he averaged 35 10 and 4 and this is in a 7 game series… im not even a Kawhi fan or a raptors fan but that is objectively easily one of the greatest playoff runs ever and I’d say it’s borderline top 5- easily being top 10 but it’s easy to forget how impactful kawhis run was when it didn’t happen last year, but as someone living in Canada it’s insane what Kawhi did for the raptors and I ain’t even a fan, just the truth that what Kawhi did was special and easily deserves S tier, in fact ion think a single player in the league today had a more dominant playoff run then 2019 Kawhi except for LeBron, neither of KD or Stephs playoff runs from an individual dominance and competition aspect come close to 2019 Kawhi, y’all bringing up Steph “carrying” GSW even tho the west was very weak at the time and currys competition in the west wasn’t as tough, 2019 Kawhi was the underdog in every series excluding the magic, and they came back down 2-0 TO GIANNIS AND THE BUCKS, Kawhi was playing with a team with 0 championship pedigree and lead them to glory, against Philly Toronto str8 up let Kawhi down but he stepped up, Kawhi also literally averaged better stats in every aspect besides assists which curry only averaged 1 more and better 3 Point % im not even bothered with Steph being in A tier as he proved a lot of people wrong, however I’d jus push Kawhi to S tier as that was an all time great playoff run
Imo Kawhi’s FMVP is just as bad except that there’s no clear choice to replace him; Tony Parker had pretty comparable production compared to him in the series.
Notice when they’re talking about 2019 Kawhi it’s about everything he did BUT in the Finals. No doubt he earned Finals MVP, but he had more of a huge run to get to the Finals rather than in the Finals. While 2022 Steph put GSW on his back as they were about to be down 1-3.
LeBron averaged basically 36, 13, and 9 in the 2015 Finals. It was wild that he even got Finals MVP discussion. If he did, they would’ve had to change the damn logo.
The warriors were downed 2-1 by the cavs would have been 3-0 if kyrie didn't got injured in game 1 with iggy starting from game 4-6 he tied steph in points in game 4 and game 6 and held lebron to 20 points in game 5 iggy deserves that fmvp
Fr even when kyrie and love got injured the warrios were still downed 2-1 almost 3-0 by the cavs Iggy from game 4-6 tied steph twice in points and held lebron to 20 points in game 5
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"This was robbery" lmfao
I spit my drink out while I was LAUGHING after he said this 😭😭
I was dead after that
Sounded like he said rubbery
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Gianni’s’ 2021 Finals was hella underrated
The man put up Shaq numbers
Came from an injury too
That might've been the most overrated runs because Giannis hadn't done anything in the past 2 post seasons
@@ChikisaMal28 he only averaged 34 and double digit boards against the best defensive team with no Middleton in 7 games last year
“Nothing”
@@Joswag man trippen
It wasn’t underrated at all considered all the talk and hype around it but that was a dominant finals run
He held curry at gun point for that finals mvp 💀
Voters*
Iggy with his greatest steal💀
Bro really pulled off a heist 🤣 How tf does this dude have a finals MVP sitting at home
From Lebron not curry just to clarify 😊
@@traytyler9951from curry.
@@traytyler9951hell na. If Bron sent the series to game 7 and lost in a very tight game, maybe. As it was, hell no
2014 spurs were playing the most beautiful basketball i’ve ever seen
It was boring asf
@@jaidenroberts05 lmao hater we got wemby now so good luck
@@jaidenroberts05 only a dumbass would say this
@@jaidenroberts05 yeah but they played true basketball, and it worked. i don’t disagree, the spurs are a boring team in general, they don’t have a large market
@@Tavoo-qw4doThe 2017 Warriors were just as beautiful and they were better
Bro got robbed harder than bank☠️💀
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2015 was just insane. Someone was probably like:
Nahhhh we are not giving it to the most dominant one like we always did, that's just so skin deep. Ohhh maybe we need to give some credit to a defensive guy who "locked" their super star. Although James still got 35 PPG, but hey, Iggy did his job :).
Outside of West it doesn't go to the most dominant. It goes to the best player on the winning team. Steph was way better than Iguadola hence why its a robbery.
Also, Lebron shot terrible that entire finals. 39% from the field. He averaged 35 points on 33 shot attempts. That's why its called Iguadola locking Lebron up. Not the basic stats of points, rebounds and assists but the efficiency they were gotten on. Lebron was AU levels of shooting.
@@samraizshoaib585 and did you pull those stats right out your ass? Basketball reference shows that he shot 47.7% TS which is great when kyries injured and defence could target him.
@@samraizshoaib585 thank you for pointing out the obvious to these posers 😂
Context matters though. While I do agree that LeBron was dominate and Steph actually could’ve won it, the context was the warriors were down 2-1 until they inserted Iggy into the starting lineup. That famous “death lineup” was part of the reason why they were able to unshackle Steph on offense. And while LeBron averaged 35ppg, anyone who was watching could tell that Iggy and Draymomd made him work his ass off for those points. So in hindsight we can look back and say it was terrible that steph didn’t win Finals MVP that year but I remember in the direct aftermath of that championship run most people weren’t mad that Iggy won it. And I say all of this as a huge supporter of Steph.
That was the moment where it really showed the NBA was driven by narrative rather than objectivity
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lmao not even they'd want him there
He's in Houston...yall were wrong af 😂
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Close enough lol
Curry 2022 Finals MVP is S tier for me…A tier is highly disrespectful but it’s their list for a reason folks…
Its not disrespect bro, yea its really good but you act like that run is the best, that celtics defense was terrible, curry leads on points but thats it, also curry doesn't play defense, he has like one of the worst defensive net rating on that series, ill say its one of the best maybe A+, but its not really on the tier of 2016 lebron
@@MitsuboshiHikaruYes it is you’re just hating. Curry had literally no help going against the #1 team in the league just like Bron. Everyone said Curry needed KD and he would never win another ring. That is disrespect. He proved them wrong with a washed Klay, UFC Dray, and role players. Curry is and always has been THE WARRIORS. He made Klay and Dray who they are.
@@IamNotTrey as expected of yall, warriors fans, always want steph to be the best, i didnt say he's F tier, what are you yapping about??, you acting like i put that stephs run in F tier, "oh youre hating cause you put steph curry in A+", like wtf?
You glazing bro
iggy winning in 2015 still upsets me
I would argue kawhi for s just on how historic it was and how he brought a championship up north but other than that this was a great list
probably because the warriors were injured.
@@Jin-po1rvIt's not their fault, are we forgetting they faced the Sixers with Embiid, Butler and a formerly good Simmons? Then at ECF against a momentum-filled giannis.
@@fatezero8662 It’s not their fault, but it’s a factor that should still be considered. A healthy KD changes everything.
@@jerodgraham6623Well obviously. That team was the most powerful team in sports history. KD getting injured just made it equal. Curry or KD has to be injured for it to be fair.
Even if KD was healthy, Kawhi would still most likely end up being the best player in the series.
He proved he was the best player that year and I dont think there’s much debate about it.
@@Jin-po1rvman I’m tired of this stupid excuse. Warrior were injured only in game 6. WHERE TORONTO WAS LEADING ALREADY BY 3-2.
Iggy did not deserve that FMVP robbed from Curry’s hands
Steph Curry still had good games in that series it’s gets overblown because of Delly hounding him for Game 2
Nah I want iguodala
I want iguodala
curry was inefficient as hell in that series, iggy held lebron to 38% shooting which hadn’t been done before, without iggy locking up bron, bron puts up 45ppg and single-handedly beats the warriors
@@kidsseecudi3408 that may be so, but you can recognize the absurdity of 35 ppg being considered "locked up" at that point just give It to LeBron even if he lost. It wouldn't be the first time
Curry deserved that fmvp and thats all there is too it.
Lebron deserved and he whooped curry again 😂
@@traytyler9951whooped Curry again? They literally won in 2015 and Lebron is 3-1 vs Curry LMAOO😂
@@remaniantcontext matters tho
@@remaniant 1-1 against curry and 0-2 against KD + curry you mean
@@remaniant kd has those fmvp over curry. So rightfully you should say kd not curry the side kick
Bro Kawhi is definitely A. Man hit the buzzer beater 3 pointer jumping to the side and it couldn’t have been a more anxious moments when that ball was waiting to go in on the rim
it should be a B. He played an injured warriors team. It was just curry and klay
I feel like that raptors run with Kawhi was probably the most iconic run. I mean, they didn’t go against any chumps either, a hungry Giannis, an embiid in the second round isn’t that difficult, and then a curry. Yeah that’s a way more impressive run than a lot of others who went through easier conferences.
He beat a hobbled Golden state. Everything till that part was impressive. The raptors would've gotten swept if the Warriors were healthy
@@BIuezy people always say this, but this was literally a 1v1 basically of two great player in Kawhi and curry. I mean curry I guess got some of his own medicine for all those LeBron beat downs as basically a 3v1 game all those years.
Idk why people keep on bringing this up, in 2015 the warriors beat a depleted Cavs and people always use this as a moment curry did everything himself like the Cavs didn’t have a injured Kevin love and Kyrie. -from what I’ve seen the 2015 warriors would’ve been smoked had the Cavs been healthy
So please stop mentioning 2 of your important players being injured would change the series, we know how sports work, this was literally used to the warriors advantage to kick start their dynasty in 2015.
@@milktea2422 I'm not a warriors fan, I'm a Cavs fan, I hold people accountable whenever they act like 2015 proved anything. I'm saying it was a very impressive run but the fact that golden state wasn't at full power, kind of takes points off it. Kawhi was the best player in that series regardless of if KD played or not, but it was obvious how stupidly talented the warriors team was at full health. Kawhi gets like an A+ for that season though. I'm forever thankful for what the Raptors did to the warriors.
Steph in 2022 was s not many people give him credit but offensively he carried dat team
Man let's stop acting like he didn't have a squad
@@Bigedub101yeah he did his squad consisted on Andrew Wiggins and Jordan pool off the bench but steph was literally the offense for that team 😭
Curry 2022 was S tier
Dirk 2011
Craaazy... took out the super teams
Indeed
Still a B .. his players around him defended Hella good
Curry in 2022 is definitely S tier. Averaging 30ppg on a "generational defense" is no easy feat. Also he basically carried for most of the finals
So that’s on the same level as 30,11,9 while leading the series in every statistical category coming back 3-1 against a 73-9 team?
@@rahqoun9735 against a "injured" 73-9 team lol also being on the same tier does not equal being equal if you get what I mean
Tier lists don't work like that
@@lucidstudious750man stop that team wasn't injured Bogut was trash when on the court, 2022 wasn't all that greaf
@@Bigedub101steph was injured
@@Bigedub1012022 was great
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I find it funny also how with Igudola winning it because of great defense (even though Lebron was still dominating) its indirectly making it seem like Lerbon played no defense.
No he wasn't. LeBron struggled scoring on Iggy individually. He was bopping everyone else
@@ChikisaMal28 wdym struggle? how did lebron struggle when he's averaging 35
@@MitsuboshiHikaru check shooting percentages
@@MitsuboshiHikaru he didn't average 35 on Iggy's head and he scored most points on barnes dray and klay
@@winter9242 well then they did a horrible job keeping Iggy on Bron if he still averaging 35 😂.
Did anybody else notice when Kawhi hit the buzzer, it was actually on Joel and they hated ben simmons so much that the announcer said "defend ed by SIMMONS!"😂
LeBron should have gotten that finals MVP when he lost the first time to the Warriors. Head and shoulders above everyone else
Iggy deserved it. It’s been 8 years get over it
THANK YOU. Everyone else on here talking about Steph not getting it, when LeBron was the one that was robbed.
You guys should do a tierlist on the best teams that lost the NBA Finals.
What about the best team that never made the nba finals (ahem every cp3 team)
They did that before
@@Bigedub101 they did it a bit after this comment
That wasn’t a robbery that was a felon
“I still want igoudala!” in max Keller an voice ✨
Kawhi made a grown man cry.😂😂
That wasn't in the finals though. Kawhi had his weakest series in the NBA finals and barely beat a Warriors team with no KD and Klay. A is way too high for that finals MVP.
@@Eurecayou have no idea what you’re talking about . easily s or a tier . led a whole country to its first chip . enough said .
"watch Dwight Howard in Taiwan" got be dying 😂😂
I hate that 2016 is just looked at as lebron’s greatest accomplishment. We got an all time generational performance from kyrie in those finals. But people will never give him his deserved credit and only bring up the shot
Yeah, they even said in this video that lebron carried the team. Kyrie was incredible
yes Kyrie was good, just like Pippen was good...
@@vtn05001 even that is disrespectful to the level of ball kyrie was playing. Listen to Steph and draymond talk about it if you don’t believe me
2016 LeBron was insane
How the hell was Steph’s mvp not S tier that arguably was one of the most single handedly best performances I’ve ever seen in the finals he averaged like 37 points against the best defensive team in 15 years
the celtics defense wasn’t even the best in the league that year. curry averaged 30, all he lead in was points that series, lebron lead in every single category, curry didn’t play defense well that series either, lebron did that’s the difference. the 2020 lakers were the best defensive team in the 2010’s and 20’s, the celtics weren’t top 7.
@@jameznetzel4808 steph played defense what you mean bro?
@@cashmoney3110 had the worst defensive rating and efficiency that series while guarding a player not known for scoring
Lol lebron lesd every single category on the court while coming back down from 3-1 against the best team of all time record wise. You warriors fans are absolutely insane if you think those 2 are on the same level 🤦🏽♂️
you wilding. its about the whole run and it was not even close to what lebron did. and I am a kawhi fan, so Im unbiased
Igundala look so happy tho😭
Iggy was confusing as hell ngl
Giving it to LeBron would've been a better choice, but they dont give it to the loser so
@@Nee19258steph deserve it he was dominant at the time but the voters was like "man look at this iguodala man locking up a super star man give him the fmvp man" it was robberyy
I was saying this in 2015, how you tell someone they playing good defense when his assignment is averaging 30 😂😂😂
@esqadwedwedcsfdwefwdcs5095 but his defender “made an impact” 🥴🤣🤣 iggy was getting his ass busted
People act like Steph deserved that 2015 finals mvp the dude shot 44% from the field and 38% from 3 and averaged 5 turnovers a game what are we talking about.
Yet, LeBron get's a pass for shooting less than 40% FG, with 4.67 turnovers the whole series. 🤡
@@mionatsume5071 which series? Lebron shot 45 percent in 2015 while being tripled teamed the whole time since both Kyrie and Love were injured
@@BIuezy I literally said the entire finals series. And you deliberately point out a different stat. That's so pathetic. LeBron shoots 39% on the field, That's horrible.
Also, he got triple teamed? Lmao. 🤡
@@mionatsume5071 aye lebron is the only guy on his team bro. Curry got kd and klay and Ben draymond to control the offense for him. Draymond is a great playmaker
@@mionatsume5071 yes he did get triple teamed. Why do I think that You never even watched one second of the finals😂🤡🤦♂️
Good video
Y’all don’t know ball bron was up 2-1 iggy inserted into the starting lineup is what changed the series
For real they were downed 2-1 would have been 3-0 if kyrie didn't got injured in game 1 from game 4-6 iggy tied steph in points in game 4 and game 6 and held lebron to 20 points in game 5
@KaguyaShinomiya-be5rg don't bring facts into this. They don't look at he whole picture. He didn't slow him down but made him work for those points. If Iggy didn't start, Cleveland might won.. Plus let's be real just Kyrie healthy would won that rjng
I love your videos keep up the great work :)
Personally, I would put Kawhi in 2014 in B, homie made Bron average 28.2, 8 & 4 in the Finals. Thats MAD IMPRESSIVE
Lowkey would put 2019 Kawhi at S...big fan of efficiency.... well obviously this is just my hot take
Well finals he was A but the other series he was S
@@supercoolguy466 That's actually very fair enough
@@accountant3847Plus whether it’s fair or not, I think a lot of people (myself included) do believe that the raptors won primarily because KD got injured. Also as a result, Kawhi didn’t have to guard him. Not Toronto’s fault, but for some people, that is absolutely a factor when they look back at that series.
@@jerodgraham6623 For sure...it is what it is... injury part of the game... ik, it sucks
@@jerodgraham6623 I have a strong feeling Kawhi would’ve been able to guard Durant pretty easily. But Toronto would’ve still lost because KD is only like a quarter of their fucking truck of roster power
As a Warriors fan who watched the 2015 finals. Without Iggy they lose. You can say the same for Curry but Iggy changed the series completely. He deserved that FMVP
For real like in those last 3 games iggy scored as many points as steph in game 4 and 6 and held lebron to 20 points in game 5
@@KaguyaShinomiya-be5rgexactly they looking at totals. LOOK how many times Iggy had to make LBJ shoot yo earn his points. 15-34 game 4 and 7-22 game 5. Like said if Iggy didn't start, series might wrnt to Cleveland. People just look at scoring which Curry didn't do much more than Iggy last 3 games
yall Hate curry if you don't think that was a S tier run
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No your just a curry glazer
Id say 2022 curry is S just cuz he averaged like 32 ppg on excellent shooting splits and basically ran a 1 man offense with Wiggins and Poole occasionally putting up 20
I had honestly forgot Iggy won that over Steph 😂😂
When I clicked on this short I just knew Andre Igoudala would get brought up
The one guarding Bron gonna be the FMVP
kawhi 2019 run is probly s tier. He was putting up jordan numbers
Andre Iguodala deserved the finals MVP because the Warriors were losing against LeBron even with Curry. Curry didn't step up or play better to flip the series. Andre Iguodala couldn't stop LeBron but he did a better job than the rest of the Warriors team at slowing him down. There was a noticeable decrease in LeBron's field goal percentage when Iguodala was the primary defender on him.
Amazing vid
2022 Steph is S tier wtf are they smoking?
Most of the time I agree with everything you guys say 💯that’s how ik your ball IQ is high and perception as fans aren’t bias.
Iggy deserved it tho. Thats how dominant that LeBron was. Holding him to 30ppg was literally series winning
Should of been Lebron
bs
"You should watch Dwight Howard in Taiwan" 😂😂😂
22 Steph b. Wiggins balled out
Steph averaged 30 on the best defense in the NBA and was hitting dagger after dagger in Boston.
@@patrykkuffel2679 played like shit game 5. Wiggins was consistent last three games. Balled out and bailed them out too with clutch shots and defense. I ain't saying he didn't deserve MVP, but it wasn't A tier.
@jlruiz3895 Steph played ok in game 5. He just wasn't hitting the 3s. Steph had that all-career performance in game 4 and was consistent the whole series. I don't think a teammate playing well should discredit you. Everyone agrees Lebron's MVP was S tier, but remember, Kyrie went OFF in the finals, too.
If that’s the case LeBron gets downgraded to an A bc Kyrie balled tf out and hit the clutch shot
Just bc he hit a 3 and had the same 41pta in a game doesn't mean he bailed the team. Wiggins consistent play game Steph more opportunities to be him. Nothing wrong with a B. U guys acting like he was and f 😂😂
I think there was a bigger nuance than just stats for iggy, the turning point in the series was when he started so that’s why they gave it to him. The real finals MVP was Steve Kerr in that case cause he made the adjustments
Steph technically won 2 finals mvps
He only has 1 technically.
@@melanatedgod5337 No shit dumbass,, but personally I think he should've won the 2015 finals mvp
@@melanatedgod5337 wdym technically? No, he just has 1.
That series was over before they put Iggy on Lebron. Yeah Lebron was still great but his shooting percentage’s dropped turnovers went up after the switch.
Iggy was the X factor
Steph got robbed in 2015 💀
And bron
@@theplaymaker3079he lost 🤦♂️
@@WahveFN yeah he lost, but he still deserved it over iggy
Last 10 finals I’d rank
S tier: LeBron 16, Kawhi 19, KD 17
A tier: Giannis 21, Jokic, 23, Curry 22
B tier: KD 18, LeBron 13, Lebron 20
C tier: Kawhi 14, Iggy 15
Curry didn't deserved 2015 MVP imo
Iggy didn't either
Should've went to LeBron
@@Nee19258he lost 🤦♂️
@@Nee19258 less than 39% FG and 4.67 turnovers. 😂
I was warriors hater in 2015 but Curry not getting Finals MVP was a crime
Stop lying lil bro
Iggy was the clear mvp
Over bron?!?!
@@theplaymaker3079he lost 🤦♂️
@@theplaymaker3079 not over Bron obviously. But he was the MVP of the warriors
@@theplaymaker3079 39% FG with 4.67 turnovers. 😂 Shut up.
iggy is easily above s tier in a league of his own
Bruh 2014 kwahi shut down prime lebron to the point he was cussin when kwahi got back on the floor
How did kahwi shut down lebron when lebron averaged 28 8 4 and avg 2 steals? Also lebron shot 58% Fg which isn’t really getting locked up😂
no he didn’t shut down lebron .you slow down bron
Did you 2 actually watch the 2014 finals lmao
Tell me how many points Lebron scored while being guarded by Kawhi. Yeah that’s what I thought.
Bro the voters were like "he could of been averaging 40 but naaaahhhh it was all iggy 👍"
I love how they left off the best one in recent memory. Gannis going supernova against the suns
2019 Kawhi also C
Nah
@@inder1049kd and klay injured
idk man 2014 Kawahi was a big part of why they won that title I think its solidly rated at B but thats just me.
2019 Kawhi > 2022 Steph
Hell no
@@JamesPlaysGames-tm5oe Hell yes
W tier list, I totally agree
Leonard is always an S, he made lebron average in 2014, most of the stats lebron had are in garbage time,
that S tier of lebron, We know who saved him,
These guys are just based their decisions on stats/box scores
Because as we all know the only deciding factor in an entire 7 games series is one single shot
Kawhi is definitely an S, don’t think y’all deep how significant it was for him to bring a chip to Toronto, a team who prior to Kawhi was always viewed as a laughing stock before 2019, he averaged 30, 9 and 4 for the entire playoffs on 50% efficiency from the field, and against Philly he averaged 35 10 and 4 and this is in a 7 game series… im not even a Kawhi fan or a raptors fan but that is objectively easily one of the greatest playoff runs ever and I’d say it’s borderline top 5- easily being top 10 but it’s easy to forget how impactful kawhis run was when it didn’t happen last year, but as someone living in Canada it’s insane what Kawhi did for the raptors and I ain’t even a fan, just the truth that what Kawhi did was special and easily deserves S tier, in fact ion think a single player in the league today had a more dominant playoff run then 2019 Kawhi except for LeBron, neither of KD or Stephs playoff runs from an individual dominance and competition aspect come close to 2019 Kawhi, y’all bringing up Steph “carrying” GSW even tho the west was very weak at the time and currys competition in the west wasn’t as tough, 2019 Kawhi was the underdog in every series excluding the magic, and they came back down 2-0 TO GIANNIS AND THE BUCKS, Kawhi was playing with a team with 0 championship pedigree and lead them to glory, against Philly Toronto str8 up let Kawhi down but he stepped up, Kawhi also literally averaged better stats in every aspect besides assists which curry only averaged 1 more and better 3 Point % im not even bothered with Steph being in A tier as he proved a lot of people wrong, however I’d jus push Kawhi to S tier as that was an all time great playoff run
These guys are definitely casuals lol
Bro how 💀💀
How?💀
Say your take then
How 💀
How
A draft with the most/least flashy players would be nice
The team who would get the least/most views wins
I love this segment! Even if i don't agree, i enjoy the conversation.
Igudala actually deserved that
Dwight caught a stray 😂😂😂
Imo Kawhi’s FMVP is just as bad except that there’s no clear choice to replace him; Tony Parker had pretty comparable production compared to him in the series.
Iggy played great defense on lebron. Doesn’t matter that the scored much. Lebron shot 39% all layups and 33% when guarded by iggy
Notice when they’re talking about 2019 Kawhi it’s about everything he did BUT in the Finals.
No doubt he earned Finals MVP, but he had more of a huge run to get to the Finals rather than in the Finals. While 2022 Steph put GSW on his back as they were about to be down 1-3.
One day we need to have a conversation about how Mickey Mouse Kawhi’s 2019 ring is
Like the warriors in 2018 wasnt a mickey mouse aswell because of CP3 injury???
Like the 2015 mickey mouse ring when kyrie and love were injured?
Like KD 2017 and 2018 rings aren't Mickey mouse ring.
The warriors would have won regardless of the injuries, however, the raps would have been butchered
The best way to explain how good kawhi was on the spurs is when they caught lebron saying damm he’s coming back in
22 steph is s tier. He was that man
He should be B tier, only won cause Tatum was injured 😂
2019 Kawhi is significantly better than 2022 Steph. Put Kawhi in S with bron then
When this started I said to myself “I already know they gonna say iggy and that shit better be a F” 😭😭
Should have put jerry west's losing fmvp on there
i just noticed how insane numbera of lebron in 2015 finals, 3 40+pts game, and 2 30+pts game
LeBron averaged basically 36, 13, and 9 in the 2015 Finals. It was wild that he even got Finals MVP discussion. If he did, they would’ve had to change the damn logo.
The warriors were downed 2-1 by the cavs would have been 3-0 if kyrie didn't got injured in game 1 with iggy starting from game 4-6 he tied steph in points in game 4 and game 6 and held lebron to 20 points in game 5 iggy deserves that fmvp
@@KaguyaShinomiya-be5rglol Kyrie played game 1 and lost. The warriors would have swept them if that injury never happened
Andre Igudala was the reason the warriors won that year lol
Fr even when kyrie and love got injured the warrios were still downed 2-1 almost 3-0 by the cavs
Iggy from game 4-6 tied steph twice in points and held lebron to 20 points in game 5
love thisss 💗
But y’all know who we want when the aliens bring that death beam.
Bro really predicted his death💀
But, “I want Iguodala!”
I knew Iggy was gonna be there somewhere 😂
2014 spurs kawhi is the GUY
lebron sweating and crying when he sees kawhi
Low-key could make an argument for Steph being S Tier in 2022. Moreso if he didn't brick all his threes in game 5, but thats alright lmao.
No, really should of been B tier. Due to Media Narratives, he was going to win as long as the Warriors won