I've got both. The 686 needed work right out of the box. I used to give the edge to S&W on the trigger alone but S&W quality has fallen off and Ruger has come up. The triggers are both very good these days and the Ruger was good to go right out of the box. Ruger wins in my house.
Ive got a 1986 686-1. Best revolver ive got to handle. Even next to the GP100. I think if you could get ahold of an older 686 your opinion would change! The trigger on mine is borderline scary! Plus no MIM!
@ssaladass7785 I do agree. I had a 686 back in the mid 80s and it was sweet. In my opinion S&W fell off the cliff with quality control unless you spring for one of their "Performance Center" guns they don't seem to have the same concerns with quality. Plus Ruger has upped their game in my opinion.
I have a 1983 model 686 4" and I also have an early model GP100 3". both are great guns but I will never get rid of my 686. Much smoother trigger than the Ruger and is better looking.
Yeah I think you got a good one, from what I hear, Smith and Colt don’t make revolvers like they used to so they aren’t as great or reliable as they used to be
Forget the ramp gripe, to me that looks like crap ... the Ruger (unlike the Smith) has provided a super easy way to exchange to whatever front sight floats your boat.
I wouldn't harp on the front sight quite so harshly. There are inexpensive options on the market, and Ruger's quick-change design means a guy can swap out the front sight in about one minute! Personally, I love a fiber optic front sight.
It's called double action not dual action. I'm surprised you didn't mention the well known fact that the GP100 is probably the most rugged .357 made. It's known to be built like a brick shit house and incredibly reliable. You also didn't mention the incredibly strong crane lockup of the GP100 or it's transfer bar. Those are basic things that should be in any review of the GP100 and what distinguishes it from other 357s.
The company has always been out of Southport CT. Their headquarters is still in CT. I believe(not 100% certain) the semi autos are made in AZ and revolvers are made in New Hampshire.
Not sayin rugers are bad but smiths are forged and alot.more refined...perfect case ejection not like a sticky ruger case ejection...much better trigger and trigger return...cylinder gap is tighter for less performance loss... i mean its no comparison
I agree about the cylinder gap and forged Steel. However, i don’t find the trigger on the Smith comfortable (strange)! Too much travel, don’t love the reset, and it's too thick & heavy. I need to get my whole index finger to wrap it around. The trigger pull on the Ruger is easier to stage.
@alsantoshsantana8803 i can see that. But smith triggers are easy to lighten up. It's a heavy pull but really smooth. The strong reset ensures you dont short stroke it under stress...(that negligible if you know how to shoot revolvers) .and technically your not suppose to stage a double action revolver. The correct way to shoot is a smooth pull until it goes bang. Rugers colts smiths all fantastic they all have the pros and cons. As for a combat revolver, I'd go smith all day because of the reset and smooth heavy pull
@alsantoshsantana8803 no prob bro. Yea My favorite stock triggers are colts. But ther reset is easy to short stroke if you dont fully get off the trigger. Easy to short stroke while rapid firing. But training correctly can negate all that
If you look up lucky gunners .357 ballistics comparison the Ruger was the most consistent as fa as velocity is concerned. It was putting out higher velocities than the 686+. So the .01 wider gap must not hurt it op bad
Go with what ever you like. Either way I would have the gun upgraded by some on like Briley in Houston. The deference that makes on either pistol is amazing.
I personally like the front sight on the GP 100, I like the profile of it, I think it is a very attractive sight, and what I did to mine was merely paint it very sharply ( attractive, professionally looking ) with a custom mixing of my own creation of some orange paint. It looks very nice and in reality one can shoot more accurately with the stock front sight than with the fiber optic type, if that is your thing. If you like fiber optic sights, well you're just weird, and obviously you are fascinated by shiny objects. Uh.........just kidding :-}. However I own both 686'es and GP 100's. But for the last couple of years I enjoy, and take out, either of my GP 100's when I am in the mood to shoot .357 magnum.
Yeah, so what ??? For your information, there is no difference in strength between the 686 nor the GP 100. Unless...........you are going to use a revolver to hammer in a nail. Then by golly.........yeah, I think the GP 100 wins.
Yeah, so true. A buddy of mine was shooting his brand new GP 100 with it's MIM frame, and he hadn't shot but like 30 rounds of .357 hard cast, the very first rounds through that new gun,....... and, and low and behold, that MIM frame up and cracked all the way through and the gun fell outta his hand in TWO pieces, I are think ! Shit !! :-}
Bro what are you even talking about? He didn’t even do silly voices or anything…this was a pretty straightforward and informational video. But okay go ahead andbe bothered by nothing 😂
The front sight on the ruger is easily changed just by depressing a plunger on the muzzle.
I've got both. The 686 needed work right out of the box. I used to give the edge to S&W on the trigger alone but S&W quality has fallen off and Ruger has come up. The triggers are both very good these days and the Ruger was good to go right out of the box. Ruger wins in my house.
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Ive got a 1986 686-1. Best revolver ive got to handle. Even next to the GP100. I think if you could get ahold of an older 686 your opinion would change! The trigger on mine is borderline scary! Plus no MIM!
@ssaladass7785 I do agree. I had a 686 back in the mid 80s and it was sweet. In my opinion S&W fell off the cliff with quality control unless you spring for one of their "Performance Center" guns they don't seem to have the same concerns with quality. Plus Ruger has upped their game in my opinion.
Ruger did a great job making sure that you can change the front sight in seconds. I love the tritium one I got from HiViz.
I have a 1983 model 686 4" and I also have an early model GP100 3". both are great guns but I will never get rid of my 686. Much smoother trigger than the Ruger and is better looking.
Yeah I think you got a good one, from what I hear, Smith and Colt don’t make revolvers like they used to so they aren’t as great or reliable as they used to be
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Bill Wilson says GP100 is better built than the new 686’s
Rugers have always been better made than S&W and even **gasp** Colt.
Clunkier doesnt mean "better built" ...
Bill Wilson's word on firearms are law
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Forget the ramp gripe, to me that looks like crap ... the Ruger (unlike the Smith) has provided a super easy way to exchange to whatever front sight floats your boat.
I wouldn't harp on the front sight quite so harshly. There are inexpensive options on the market, and Ruger's quick-change design means a guy can swap out the front sight in about one minute! Personally, I love a fiber optic front sight.
It's called double action not dual action. I'm surprised you didn't mention the well known fact that the GP100 is probably the most rugged .357 made. It's known to be built like a brick shit house and incredibly reliable. You also didn't mention the incredibly strong crane lockup of the GP100 or it's transfer bar. Those are basic things that should be in any review of the GP100 and what distinguishes it from other
357s.
$450 for the Ruger??? I’ve only seen them for like $900
I thought that Rugers were manufactured here in Prescott Arizona
The company has always been out of Southport CT. Their headquarters is still in CT. I believe(not 100% certain) the semi autos are made in AZ and revolvers are made in New Hampshire.
Not sayin rugers are bad but smiths are forged and alot.more refined...perfect case ejection not like a sticky ruger case ejection...much better trigger and trigger return...cylinder gap is tighter for less performance loss... i mean its no comparison
I agree about the cylinder gap and forged Steel. However, i don’t find the trigger on the Smith comfortable (strange)! Too much travel, don’t love the reset, and it's too thick & heavy. I need to get my whole index finger to wrap it around. The trigger pull on the Ruger is easier to stage.
@alsantoshsantana8803 i can see that. But smith triggers are easy to lighten up. It's a heavy pull but really smooth. The strong reset ensures you dont short stroke it under stress...(that negligible if you know how to shoot revolvers) .and technically your not suppose to stage a double action revolver. The correct way to shoot is a smooth pull until it goes bang. Rugers colts smiths all fantastic they all have the pros and cons. As for a combat revolver, I'd go smith all day because of the reset and smooth heavy pull
@@sparky_-mf2cs Thanks man, i learned something. I was wondering myself about the short stroke issue -- you confirmed it.
@alsantoshsantana8803 no prob bro. Yea My favorite stock triggers are colts. But ther reset is easy to short stroke if you dont fully get off the trigger. Easy to short stroke while rapid firing. But training correctly can negate all that
If you look up lucky gunners .357 ballistics comparison the Ruger was the most consistent as fa as velocity is concerned. It was putting out higher velocities than the 686+. So the .01 wider gap must not hurt it op bad
Go with what ever you like. Either way I would have the gun upgraded by some on like Briley in Houston. The deference that makes on either pistol is amazing.
I personally like the front sight on the GP 100, I like the profile of it, I think it is a very attractive sight, and what I did to mine was merely paint it very sharply ( attractive, professionally looking ) with a custom mixing of my own creation of some orange paint. It looks very nice and in reality one can shoot more accurately with the stock front sight than with the fiber optic type, if that is your thing. If you like fiber optic sights, well you're just weird, and obviously you are fascinated by shiny objects. Uh.........just kidding :-}. However I own both 686'es and GP 100's. But for the last couple of years I enjoy, and take out, either of my GP 100's when I am in the mood to shoot .357 magnum.
Ruger Police Service Six beats em both
Couldn't see the smith front sight at all in the video at least
Look at both frames,the rugers top strap is much thicker steel the the sw
Yeah, so what ??? For your information, there is no difference in strength between the 686 nor the GP 100. Unless...........you are going to use a revolver to hammer in a nail. Then by golly.........yeah, I think the GP 100 wins.
I have the 6" blued gp100 and a 586 4" might get a 686 7 shot in 2025.
The Smith is much better❤
NO......The GP 100 are way better ! ninner, ninner, ninner !
686 spanks the gp 100...ther is no ruger that is "better built" than any smith...
I'll take a smith any day. Ruger's are not built better; they are cast as opposed to forged.
Yeah, so true. A buddy of mine was shooting his brand new GP 100 with it's MIM frame, and he hadn't shot but like 30 rounds of .357 hard cast, the very first rounds through that new gun,....... and, and low and behold, that MIM frame up and cracked all the way through and the gun fell outta his hand in TWO pieces, I are think ! Shit !! :-}
@@larkinoo😂 yeah ok bud , mim frame 👌🏻
Want some feedback? Cut out the silly voice acting and funny talking voices.
Bro what are you even talking about? He didn’t even do silly voices or anything…this was a pretty straightforward and informational video. But okay go ahead andbe bothered by nothing 😂
Want some feedback? Your feedback was silly and worthless.
The Ruger is far superior.
Yeah you were heavy on the crack pipe 8 months ago huh? 😂