I have been playing enh hard and loving it. First off, in wpvp I am bullying ppl. I love how much I can survive. Second, the satisfaction of playing the underdog and making it work. You can feel you get better the more you play and in turn, it makes you a better player. Third: man the storm bringer spec feels right. Every time I press tempest, it takes be back to the cinematic of thrall vs garosh when thrall summoned a lightning bolt on him and messed him up. That’s what I feel every time I press it. Last but not least, I have been a grand marshal wearing ret paladin since vanilla and it took me away from that killing blow seeking mentality to a more team work oriented game play. I’m loving the class and I hope blizzard keeps supporting it. You were correct sir, play q class that has more than one spec to play. There are at least 2 viable enh builds, at least 2-3 elemental builds that are good…. Resto has a hard casting and a passive healing build as well. Is a very fun class at the moment. Oh and the new ascendance form sucks :( looks like Blanka from street fighter :(
The damage is absolutely fine. It's actually superb right now. My issue is being constantly rooted. I can't actually get to a Mage regardless of how much I try and play perfectly. They die though, through purges, dogs and maelstrom instant casts, but still, I'd actually like to use my weapons on them at some point.
I mean, obviously if we can hit everyone like a dummy, then our damage is very fine. It's just that it doesn't happen.. And In Arena, they are not going to die if you don't hit them with a competent healer. Like said, Frost Mage with A boomy + a top tier healer is just hell to play against, no matter what.
I think the buff helped a little bit. I was so frustrated last week. The devs have to change some mobility and defensive abilities, because we cant do shit in cc. I am playing biggerdam his totemic build with doomwinds, p-wave, lavalash and elementalwolves. ofc every player has to decide what he is going to play.
Yeah that's one of the builds I also play, just think it doesn't add as much as it seems to be. Totemic is okay to put some pad and have SOME on demand burst. I just think that the kiting problem is universal, stormbringer or totemic alike..
Like I said I think storm shield and storm for shaman should cc in real life you hit some one you can’t move and earth shield should be able to be god Tanky earth shield should be more bad ass I feel that shaman should be able to make more tornadoes and make people swirling in it take hole lot of cc and damage .
I started playing a build that takes all SS and LL talents and stacking mastery whenever the ele blast/LL build was the go-to in DF. You lose doomwinds and the thorim talents so you lose those big burst windows, but the sustain damage is incredible. Had multiple rounds of solo shuffle where i did more damage than the other 3 DPS combined. The whole spec is RNG but with this build the RNG gets placed squarely on SS and LL which you're pressing constantly and then you get BIG frost shocks every time you dump your maelstrom. Pairs great with stormbringer so far this xpac too.
@@ryanbarron7590 won't be home until tomorrow but characters name is Laguru on Mal'Ganis if you wanna take a look. I only started doing rated content in DF solo shuffle but hit 1900 with this build
Remember i said yesterday i felt like i had red gear? well later on all suddenly i did at least 100k more dps, something must have been bugged for me xD. It's much better now, it's still not enough though. HOWEVER if you come in a 1V1 situation, it's really great, selfhealing is insane. But like many other ppl say here, it's just really fun to play it, regardless of his power atm.
Im feeling good in pvp and my dmg is way better with the patch. In combination with the self heal I’m doing pretty good in PvP l. I think a lot of people forget that we just have tempest for our aoe dmg so it’s kinda normal that we are not doing as much dmg as the other classes with way more aoe attacks. I’m happy about the push 🙌
I really hope they do a pvp rework for enhance. I think enhance is fine for pve, but we just need some pvp only changes or something. I want to be able to play a spec like older enhance in pvp, huge burst from stormstrike damage and ascendance damage. I remember being able to take down hunters like crazy with spirit walk and ascendance.
they need to change the choice node for ghost wolf to have an option that lowers the cooldown of spirit walk or something. that node isnt very useful for enhancement shaman compared to the other 2
So after playing about 12 hours of Totemic pvp since the buffs, I think everything you said pretty much hit the nail on the head. To add, Enhance's deficiencies are much less noticeable in bgs because of their insane utility/offheals, but even in games where I pop off, I'm doing less than half the damage of a Wal Mart Hunter or DK. A nice change would be to allow for Surging Totem to be moved once after casting it, or placing it resets the cooldown of Totemic Projection, or even just increasing its radius slightly. I'm still testing, but I think a Totemic build focused around maxing out Frost Witch (since the damage buff jumps from 5% to 25%) instead of just 1 point for the SS reset along with Deeply Rooted Elements. Then spec into Primal Maelstrom for a burst rotation of Stormstrike / Primordial Wave / Lightning Bolt /Stormstrike / Icefury / Frost Shock / Sundering could be a good way to fish for more Ascendance procs and stack your totem - maybe its even possible to double stack Earthsurge/Totemic Rebound with double Surging from Totemic Recall? Anyway, this 30 sec burst window with some crit gear might actually be the way to play and then just use your insane control/survivability in between setups. There's a good chance I'm wrong since the damage still might not be enough and shaman scale too well with haste/mastery, but curious to hear your thoughts! Also subbed
Yeah Bgs you can feel that you do okay, but it's defo some placebo effect because if you put any DK/DH/WW even a warrior instead, it would make it a better team. Totem should just be on your back imo, that's the easiest change to do. I think the issue is that Crit isn't that worth it for Enhance.. We have barely damage modifiers for our crit damage, while ARms or other specs have for example. Right now, i'm skeptical because I don't know if we need a damage buff, or just simply a rework.
I felt like I was doing well in 1v1, but in skirmishes I just get trained. I am used to Code Blue (kill the shaman) but my dps just sucks..I can't get enough tempests to roll around. Maybe the problem is me.
Uptime is a problem, Totemic can help vs those kiting classes.. but not by that much. It's mostly pad that gets added through Totemic + Lava lash, which I guess is damage still... Anything 1V1 or even 1V2, you are great though ( open world ).
World PvP is good like it was last season but BGs not so much. If we can heal with no dampening we're good. We will OOM if the fights are too long though (especially in BGs) which is bullshit. We definitely need better defensives and mobility or taking damage needs to give us Maelstrom charges so ranged can't just root/slow us to death so easily. That being said I got my Horde Slayer title on my new enhance last night. Spec is still the most fun in the game IMO.
It is the most fun, In world pvp it's for me top tier now. I just think that it's lackluster when you need to either rely on pad damage or litterally get kited around like a dog with a leash
@@ThoGrey I dabble in most specs. I prefer melee. I got my warrior leveled probably do my Feral next on Alliance then my Rogue on horde. I do love survival hunter too!
I would love more actual pvp in your videos bro. I feel like a lot of people stumbling upon this channel get no real credentials from you. Like, who is this guy talking about enh sham? Is he high rated? Skilled? I barely ever see actual fights from you. Duels, arenas, BGs...world pvp. Kinda weird for me to see a pvp focused channel with very little pvp vids. Take it as constructive criticism.
@@deusvult333 I do when there is just rated content. Bg videos, or simply pvp ( like my enhance video a couple days ago) just doesnt sell. What I mean by that is that people dont watch and even skip through the video ( watchtime is terrible) I m also not a full time CC, so to make footage all the time is tough and I have to make choices between gameplay which people dont care as much these days ( although I do when rated season starts) and discussion/analysis/tierlists/guides where I discuss indepth about stuff. I take it well mate, I hope you understand a bit more the reasoning
Hmmm.. Mages are just annoying to deal with in arena's. In open world, you can eat them by just playing Ascendance. I think the difficulty of Enhance resides on surviving versus caster cleaves. You'll have to count on your other dps + healer for that. I'd say to use feral lunge very wisely and not at 8yards. Play gust of winds instead of Spirit walk and Ghost wolf is your best friend.
I play storm build. I personally also hate lava lash with a passion. Enh has other problems than storm vs elementalist.. both builds struggle a bit. But you can make it work. It will depend on your comp
For me the only issue with totemic is that the capstone is not strong enough. Those motes should givea way better buff considering is to a single spell cast every 24s. The fire mote should be a guaranteed crit, but maybe with a 50% crit damage instead of 75%, the air mote should be like a 40% SS and 100% cleave on another target and the earth mote... I don't know, I guess it's ok the way it is. Also, don't underestimate searing volley, it hits like a truck, but there's lots of rng involved in the spawning of searing totems.
It hits for 100K, i don't know If 2% of someone health is hitting like a truck. It's AOE pad damage, Flame shock does same damage as a dot when playign elementalist... And yeah I agree about the motes.
@@ThoGrey because you're not playing with the crit talent from the searing totems. I've hit 170k crits back to back with just one searing totem, if you get to proc a couple of them is 170k crit per searing totem, so we're looking at 700k to 900k dmg per global with LL.
Why have they screwed over ENH while saying they are “happy with where it is at”? Well, why is the voice acting and why are the characters so bad in the new expansion? Because the people involved in this the production are not my kind of people.
With tometic I'm seeing 315k ish stormstriles and with the extra 15% to windfury damage and forceful winds I'm seeing 110k windfuries. I'm telling you tometic is the way for pvp you get a bigger shield when you place surging totem after stone bulwark about 300k extra shield and more windfury/stormstriles damage. Stormbringer is pve and tometic is pvp.
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I have been playing enh hard and loving it.
First off, in wpvp I am bullying ppl. I love how much I can survive.
Second, the satisfaction of playing the underdog and making it work. You can feel you get better the more you play and in turn, it makes you a better player.
Third: man the storm bringer spec feels right. Every time I press tempest, it takes be back to the cinematic of thrall vs garosh when thrall summoned a lightning bolt on him and messed him up. That’s what I feel every time I press it.
Last but not least, I have been a grand marshal wearing ret paladin since vanilla and it took me away from that killing blow seeking mentality to a more team work oriented game play. I’m loving the class and I hope blizzard keeps supporting it.
You were correct sir, play q class that has more than one spec to play. There are at least 2 viable enh builds, at least 2-3 elemental builds that are good…. Resto has a hard casting and a passive healing build as well. Is a very fun class at the moment.
Oh and the new ascendance form sucks :( looks like Blanka from street fighter :(
But..Blanka was my favorite..
You good bro?
It needs more still. We're just outclasses by everyone.
The damage is absolutely fine. It's actually superb right now. My issue is being constantly rooted. I can't actually get to a Mage regardless of how much I try and play perfectly. They die though, through purges, dogs and maelstrom instant casts, but still, I'd actually like to use my weapons on them at some point.
I mean, obviously if we can hit everyone like a dummy, then our damage is very fine. It's just that it doesn't happen.. And In Arena, they are not going to die if you don't hit them with a competent healer.
Like said, Frost Mage with A boomy + a top tier healer is just hell to play against, no matter what.
Yeah man, every melee is a wheelchair against frost mage lol
mages are simply too OP
I think the buff helped a little bit. I was so frustrated last week. The devs have to change some mobility and defensive abilities, because we cant do shit in cc. I am playing biggerdam his totemic build with doomwinds, p-wave, lavalash and elementalwolves. ofc every player has to decide what he is going to play.
Yeah that's one of the builds I also play, just think it doesn't add as much as it seems to be. Totemic is okay to put some pad and have SOME on demand burst. I just think that the kiting problem is universal, stormbringer or totemic alike..
Saved? Man I haven’t felt this good in enh for years
Its still Elemental shaman but feels and plays worse than actual Elemental shaman. Sad
Also one of my problems.
Like I said I think storm shield and storm for shaman should cc in real life you hit some one you can’t move and earth shield should be able to be god Tanky earth shield should be more bad ass I feel that shaman should be able to make more tornadoes and make people swirling in it take hole lot of cc and damage .
I started playing a build that takes all SS and LL talents and stacking mastery whenever the ele blast/LL build was the go-to in DF. You lose doomwinds and the thorim talents so you lose those big burst windows, but the sustain damage is incredible. Had multiple rounds of solo shuffle where i did more damage than the other 3 DPS combined. The whole spec is RNG but with this build the RNG gets placed squarely on SS and LL which you're pressing constantly and then you get BIG frost shocks every time you dump your maelstrom. Pairs great with stormbringer so far this xpac too.
link the spec
@@ryanbarron7590 won't be home until tomorrow but characters name is Laguru on Mal'Ganis if you wanna take a look. I only started doing rated content in DF solo shuffle but hit 1900 with this build
Remember i said yesterday i felt like i had red gear? well later on all suddenly i did at least 100k more dps, something must have been bugged for me xD. It's much better now, it's still not enough though. HOWEVER if you come in a 1V1 situation, it's really great, selfhealing is insane. But like many other ppl say here, it's just really fun to play it, regardless of his power atm.
Very fun, just not reliable in arena. The issue is mostly the kiting aspect..
Im feeling good in pvp and my dmg is way better with the patch. In combination with the self heal I’m doing pretty good in PvP l. I think a lot of people forget that we just have tempest for our aoe dmg so it’s kinda normal that we are not doing as much dmg as the other classes with way more aoe attacks. I’m happy about the push 🙌
I really hope they do a pvp rework for enhance. I think enhance is fine for pve, but we just need some pvp only changes or something. I want to be able to play a spec like older enhance in pvp, huge burst from stormstrike damage and ascendance damage. I remember being able to take down hunters like crazy with spirit walk and ascendance.
they need to change the choice node for ghost wolf to have an option that lowers the cooldown of spirit walk or something. that node isnt very useful for enhancement shaman compared to the other 2
So after playing about 12 hours of Totemic pvp since the buffs, I think everything you said pretty much hit the nail on the head. To add, Enhance's deficiencies are much less noticeable in bgs because of their insane utility/offheals, but even in games where I pop off, I'm doing less than half the damage of a Wal Mart Hunter or DK. A nice change would be to allow for Surging Totem to be moved once after casting it, or placing it resets the cooldown of Totemic Projection, or even just increasing its radius slightly.
I'm still testing, but I think a Totemic build focused around maxing out Frost Witch (since the damage buff jumps from 5% to 25%) instead of just 1 point for the SS reset along with Deeply Rooted Elements. Then spec into Primal Maelstrom for a burst rotation of Stormstrike / Primordial Wave / Lightning Bolt /Stormstrike / Icefury / Frost Shock / Sundering could be a good way to fish for more Ascendance procs and stack your totem - maybe its even possible to double stack Earthsurge/Totemic Rebound with double Surging from Totemic Recall? Anyway, this 30 sec burst window with some crit gear might actually be the way to play and then just use your insane control/survivability in between setups. There's a good chance I'm wrong since the damage still might not be enough and shaman scale too well with haste/mastery, but curious to hear your thoughts! Also subbed
Yeah Bgs you can feel that you do okay, but it's defo some placebo effect because if you put any DK/DH/WW even a warrior instead, it would make it a better team.
Totem should just be on your back imo, that's the easiest change to do.
I think the issue is that Crit isn't that worth it for Enhance.. We have barely damage modifiers for our crit damage, while ARms or other specs have for example.
Right now, i'm skeptical because I don't know if we need a damage buff, or just simply a rework.
And thank you :)
@@ThoGrey I think I see why season 2 might be better for us with more stats...hmm..
I haven't played retail since cataclysm original. I dont understand how gear works. What gear should i ve hunting for this?
Ouf tough, I've made a gearing guide video recently, better check that out.. You don't need to step in to pve at all tho!
ey man, a guide later of the new changes would be great. with macros incluided i want quit binds of my keyboard omg this class xD
@@walker8165 Its frankly the same builds mate!
Hey Thogrey, just try elemental blast on enhance, I think the best builds right now use it
Meh If you play stormbringer I just avoid playing it. If I go totemic, I play ele blast ofc!
I felt like I was doing well in 1v1, but in skirmishes I just get trained. I am used to Code Blue (kill the shaman) but my dps just sucks..I can't get enough tempests to roll around. Maybe the problem is me.
Uptime is a problem, Totemic can help vs those kiting classes.. but not by that much.
It's mostly pad that gets added through Totemic + Lava lash, which I guess is damage still...
Anything 1V1 or even 1V2, you are great though ( open world ).
Hi, let’s try spec everything to the mastery, I was try and damage was good
You need around 15% to 17% of haste in pvp. Else it doesn't matter the amount of mastery you'll get, you won't get as many hits / spells in a fight.
World PvP is good like it was last season but BGs not so much. If we can heal with no dampening we're good. We will OOM if the fights are too long though (especially in BGs) which is bullshit. We definitely need better defensives and mobility or taking damage needs to give us Maelstrom charges so ranged can't just root/slow us to death so easily. That being said I got my Horde Slayer title on my new enhance last night. Spec is still the most fun in the game IMO.
It is the most fun, In world pvp it's for me top tier now. I just think that it's lackluster when you need to either rely on pad damage or litterally get kited around like a dog with a leash
Gratz on horde slayer
@@ThoGrey thanks for the videos brother! I enjoy them!
@@steveareno1390 Thank you mate appreciate it. Outside of Enhance, what other specs do you play?
@@ThoGrey I dabble in most specs. I prefer melee. I got my warrior leveled probably do my Feral next on Alliance then my Rogue on horde. I do love survival hunter too!
I would love more actual pvp in your videos bro. I feel like a lot of people stumbling upon this channel get no real credentials from you. Like, who is this guy talking about enh sham?
Is he high rated? Skilled? I barely ever see actual fights from you. Duels, arenas, BGs...world pvp. Kinda weird for me to see a pvp focused channel with very little pvp vids.
Take it as constructive criticism.
@@deusvult333 I do when there is just rated content. Bg videos, or simply pvp ( like my enhance video a couple days ago) just doesnt sell.
What I mean by that is that people dont watch and even skip through the video ( watchtime is terrible)
I m also not a full time CC, so to make footage all the time is tough and I have to make choices between gameplay which people dont care as much these days ( although I do when rated season starts) and discussion/analysis/tierlists/guides where I discuss indepth about stuff.
I take it well mate, I hope you understand a bit more the reasoning
really good guide but my problem is that is very difficult for me to reach ranged dps. Any advice?
Hmmm.. Mages are just annoying to deal with in arena's. In open world, you can eat them by just playing Ascendance. I think the difficulty of Enhance resides on surviving versus caster cleaves. You'll have to count on your other dps + healer for that.
I'd say to use feral lunge very wisely and not at 8yards. Play gust of winds instead of Spirit walk and Ghost wolf is your best friend.
Could the "storm" build be viable in PvP? I hate the elementalist playstyle of using ele blast, Lava lash, ice, etc.
I play storm build. I personally also hate lava lash with a passion.
Enh has other problems than storm vs elementalist.. both builds struggle a bit. But you can make it work. It will depend on your comp
@@ThoGrey What 2s and 3s comp would you recommend so far?
@@ThoGrey Also, what is that weakaura on your screen at 14:30
For me the only issue with totemic is that the capstone is not strong enough. Those motes should givea way better buff considering is to a single spell cast every 24s.
The fire mote should be a guaranteed crit, but maybe with a 50% crit damage instead of 75%, the air mote should be like a 40% SS and 100% cleave on another target and the earth mote... I don't know, I guess it's ok the way it is.
Also, don't underestimate searing volley, it hits like a truck, but there's lots of rng involved in the spawning of searing totems.
It hits for 100K, i don't know If 2% of someone health is hitting like a truck.
It's AOE pad damage, Flame shock does same damage as a dot when playign elementalist...
And yeah I agree about the motes.
@@ThoGrey because you're not playing with the crit talent from the searing totems. I've hit 170k crits back to back with just one searing totem, if you get to proc a couple of them is 170k crit per searing totem, so we're looking at 700k to 900k dmg per global with LL.
Why have they screwed over ENH while saying they are “happy with where it is at”? Well, why is the voice acting and why are the characters so bad in the new expansion? Because the people involved in this the production are not my kind of people.
Feels bad man :/
Enhancement was one of the specs that needed a rework most, yet the only changes were the hero talents.
With tometic I'm seeing 315k ish stormstriles and with the extra 15% to windfury damage and forceful winds I'm seeing 110k windfuries.
I'm telling you tometic is the way for pvp you get a bigger shield when you place surging totem after stone bulwark about 300k extra shield and more windfury/stormstriles damage.
Stormbringer is pve and tometic is pvp.