Doug Nelson Lume does last all night. The thing is that it fades during the first hour about 90% and if your eyes are not adjusted to darkness you won’t see the lume after the first hour, if you went to bed, though, and you’d get up at 5 in the morning you’d definitely still see it. At least that’s the case with my Seiko SKX007.
Noosa Mike Lume does last all night. The thing is that it fades during the first hour about 90% and if your eyes are not adjusted to darkness you won’t see the lume after the first hour, if you went to bed, though, and you’d get up at 5 in the morning you’d definitely still see it. At least that’s the case with my Seiko SKX007.
Cool video. And, from my own experience Lumibrite is generally a tiny bit better than any other common superluminova type lume out there. It really depends on the application also. More on that below. Lumibrite will be very strong when initially charged.. it almost feels radioactive. it is very strong at the beginning. Then when it fades a bit, it's still very long lasting and glows sufficiently well throughout the night. I also find Lumibrite, at least the newest formula used in the SBBN033 (or similar models), to be very reactive and currently, imho, the best.. Doesn't take that much to get it charged and it lasts long. I joke to myself and others that it's so good, it practically negates nearly any advantage tritium tubes have since you can effectively see the lume easily with minimal charge time and it lasts a very long time.. well long enough than anyone should need to spend in complete darkness. Lumibrite in general, regardless of colors, is pretty good.. talking stuff like C3 and BGW9. Supposedly there's anewer formula of C1 lume that's supposed to be better than C1 of the past. Anyways, they are nearly as good as Lumibrite, but does seem just a tiny bit behind Lumibrite.. they don't seem seem as bright after freshly being charged and they typically fade a bit faster than Lumibrite. But, once you get both Lumibrite and Superluminova dimmed down and normalized at the lower lume glow level, they are about the same in terms of legibility when dimmed in very dark situations. I also have found Lumibrite endures just a tiny bit longer than Superluminova. Out of all the Superluminova including C3, BGW9, C1, and all the stuff in between including the Aged Radium looking lume.. C3 Green will be the most "potent". Green color will always show the strongest. BGW9 comes in very close, but because of the blue glow, it at least visually appears slightly less potent than C3. And, you really have to factor in the application. A larger and heavier deposit of lume paint will of course be stronger and more enduring. Consequently, lesser smaller applications will respectively be less so. Additionally, keep in mind perhaps the date of the application. If you compare a watch now 2018 to a watch from say 10 or even 5 years ago, chances are the lume intensity and performance will alter and reflect respectively. I would add, i've done my own custom Seiko mod with lume paint. Look up my "Night King" SKX mod on UA-cam. I have Yobokies Grand Seiko Diver hands which seemingly glow as much as Lumibrite. I have no idea what Yobokies uses, I assume C3 green lume. I have also repainted the lume on my aftermarket dial with a blue lume paint kit because it was weak C1 lume on it. And, I can say to my surprise that the $20 blue lume paint kit seams to glow just like BGW9 and lasts just as long as the Yobokies hands and all of them perform just about as good as Lumibrite. Reactive, strong bright glow upon fresh charge, a "good" sustained glow after removal from light charging source, and legible thoughout the night till morning.. a good 6-8 hours at least. BUT, if I'm being honest and nitpicking, they are still just an insignificant amount less than Lumibrite. But, damn close enough. I think there are plenty of very good lume being used on most modern watches these days, the differences will be marginal at best. But, I have seen and experienced some REALLY BAD lume application.. it's to the point where why bother? It pisses me off because it is more disappointing to see the application is so bad and weak than if they had not tried at all and not put the weak ass lume.
I woander what means semi-permanent longevity for lumibrite. Why Superluminova is permanent and lumibrite is semi-permanent ? After a while lumibrite will not be able to recharge ?
You only showed the loom for 5 minutes. It would be interesting to see what happens hour after hour along the night. Seiko loom is VERY bright first 10 minutes, but at the end of the night, it is not much brighter than my Citizen Fugu, for instance.
Same here with my Alpinist. No difficulty with recognizing the time through the night. Yes, the lume has dimmed significantly, but my eyes have adapted to the darkness so it works out well.
I have a 40 year old Lorus Dive watch. It's so bright you could find your way out of a coal mine at midnight. Lasts for hours too! None of my other watches come close.
In general blue lume is always dimmer than green. It's pretty amazing how well the blue lume is actually doing. The more lume you use the longer it will last as well
@ Adam Severinsen. I read somewhere on the internet that although green luminescent paint on watch hands and minute markers initially glows brighter than blue luminescent paint, blue luminescent paint dims slower than green luminescent paint and ,therefore, glows in the dark longer than green luminescent paint.
Your eye / brain will detect green before blue. That's why green lume is mostly used. It seems brighter / more impressive. But once your eyes adjust to low light conditions, you will see dim blue before dim green. It's more detectable to your eye. Therefore, if your using your watch to illuminate something like an key hole, green lume is an better choice. If your using the lume to tell time at 2pm 3pm.... then blue lume or bgw9 Is an much better choice. Green lumed watches sell more units because they do better in youtube watch reviews. So.... there you have the info. Peace
@@jvanleeuwenCdn . I never said or even suggested that green lume is a "horrible" choice to put on the watch hands and watch markers on watch dials. I merely stated what I had read somewhere on the internet (possibly an article on the subject on Wikipedia) about green lume appearing initially brighter in the dark than blue lume , but that over time, blue lume dims slower than green lume. Sometime in the near future I'll do a comparison in which I'll check one of my watches in the dark that has blue lume versus one of my watches that has green lume and determine which is easier to see in the dark at 2AM or 3AM in the morning.
The Tuna is ridiculous even compared to other Seikos. I have a watches with Superluminova and Lumibrite and they are both bright and they both last through the night so that there is lume at daybreak. Lumibrite is fractionally brighter at the beginning and end but both do their jobs. Thanks for another great video Jory :)
That was just plain fun!! I enjoyed every "un-scientific" minute of the video because it was representative of something any normal person would have done in their own living room. Ok, maybe just me...but then I'm not so normal :) Nothing takes me back to my childhood like a good ole flashlight and glow in the dark stuff!! Thanks for sharing your fun test with all of us!!
To do this correctly and add some objectivity, one would need two identical Coleman flashlights, a timer and a way to hit each watch with light at the exact same time. Also, lume surface area plays a large part here. It's the large round globes in the SEIKO verses the flat thin markers in the Legrand. I submit this respectfully.This was fun, if somewhat subjective.
Yeah, Awesome video. Awesome lume on both those watches!! Love the colour of the BGW9!! The lumibrite seems to light up the whole watch!! Certainly the Lumibrite looks way brighter and for longer!
A comparison between the Tuna and the Boldr Odyssey would have been a better idea, since the Boldr has the same lume as the Richand Legrand, but with way bigger indexes.
Hi there the lumes are super cool but don't they flake off and get blacked out ruining the watch like some 8 to 10 years down the line. Correct me if I'm wrong
Easy win for Seiko....the Odyssea is a handsome watch tho! Thanks for trying proper English for your British viewers, now just say aluminium instead of aluminum 😂👍👍
I feel you should have compared regular superluminova yo lumibrite. The blue superluminova is in general weaker than the regular green. Just as the patina lume is weaker than any other color due to the way it can absorb uv
The real estate of the tuna's indices are bigger and green will always be warmer than blue. And these are not the only 2 players in the game, you should have thrown in a tritium powered watch into the mix
I have a Tissot T Connect T Touch (orange numbers and black face) with Superluminova and a SEIKO (King Turtle Mantra save the ocean blue face) with Lumibrite and let me tell you SEIKO wins every time hands down! Awesome review 😁
Are you testing the watches or the luminous material? Because if you're trying to test/compare the actual luminosity of the luminous materials, then you need to apply them in the exact same amount across the exact same surface material, in the exact same pattern. Your test only compares the individual application of each luminous material to disparate surfaces and in different amounts in different patterns.
I have many seikos and they’re all awesome but nothing beats tritium. It glows for 25 years without a flashlight. I have a Deep Blue Diver that can be used as a night light it’s so bright (which might be needed if you hit it’s 6000 feet max depth). And no you won’t get injured from radiation as much as people seem to believe smh. I’m really surprised more watch manufacturers don’t use tritium.
I like C3 better than BGW9. I feel like Seiko does too. Sure it's called Lumibrite, but I'd bet it's similar to C3. My opinion. I'm going with a Heimdallr SKX homage, for the C3 lume, and it's a better SKX than Seiko. 🤔
The Seiko SKX/5KX lume easily beats the Submariner in both brightness and longevity. I have demonstrated it a few times. Not bad for watches costing a tiny fraction of the Sub.
The only real way to compare them is side-by-side, each with it's own identical light source ... instead of going cheap and only using one black light, waving it side to side. This wasn't a very good test.
In this video comparison of SuperLuminova versus Lumibrite, the only reason that the watch on the right appears brighter in the dark than the watch on the left is because the watch markers and watch hands on the watch dial on the right are lumed with white lume which naturally makes that watch dial appear to be brighter than the blue-lumed watch hands and markers on the watch dial on the left. White lume on watch hands and/or markers always appears to be more vividly bright than green or blue lume. In other words, white lume naturally "stands out" more than blue or green lume on watch hands and markers.
Green lume will always be brighter and last longer than blue lume. The phosphorus is the green is more natural than in the blue, which makes it brighter and last longer.
Undoubtedly the Seiko has a lot more lume so it isn't really a fair comparison. However, the lume pips on the second hands are approximately the same size and suggests the Seiko would still win a fair fight.
The Marine Master (Tuna) is a 'tool' watch pure and simple. I contend putting it up against a desk diver is invalid. As others have noted the human eye detects green rather better than blue. That is why the HUD in jet fighters is depicted in green rather than any other colour.
Why don't you go by the hands? They are more similar in size than the numerals. And your always going to get better brightness with green than with blue no matter what Lume you pick. So the test you have done is not a fair test in my book.
The lume on the Tuna is insane. I don't think I have a watch that has better lume than the Tuna. My experience with the BGw9 is that it is not as bright as the Lumibrite, but it does seem to have good longevity..
Tod Schuck Ball watches use a totally different luminescent chemical, don't they? It has a gas release valve (is this related to the Lume?), and replaces older radioactive elements they used to use.
Jesse Somer correct, they use tritium gas tubes that never need light to charge. The amount of luminescence is amazing. It never decays over the course of a night and is good for about 25 years.
Lumabrite is the best I've encountered but I think the blue bgw9 looks cooler. I have a microbrand watch (Borealis Seastorm v2) with a healthy amount of bgw9 and it's probably the only watch in my collection that comes close to my newest seiko. It's not quite as good as lumabrite but it's still pretty impressive. I have a couple of seiko divers from the early and late 90s and the lume has diminished considerably over the years. I'm not sure if seiko changed their formula over the years or if it just loses its mojo over time but they're not even close to my newer seikos.
While the brightness of the lume is important, I think the longevity/readability is more important. In a movie theater, I need a watch that will last at least two hours so I can read the time on my watch. Neither of these lumes will last this time frame. That is why I purchased a Ball watch with tritium gas tube lighting. The lume is never extremely bright with tritium, but you can read the time all night long.
Honestly the superluminova looks nice to me. I wouldn't want my watch to glow too brightly. Feel like it would draw way too much attention but that might be because the Seiko has much larger markers and hands.
Blue lume or bgw9 is easier to see or read when your eye adjusts to low light conditions. It takes an while for your eyes to adjust. Green lume will always look initially, more impressive. For telling the time at night in an dark room, bgw9 wins. But in semi low light conditions green lume is perfered.
green is always going to look brighter to the human eye thats why its used so much by the watch and gun site companies,our eyes see it better,having said that seikos lume is one of the best,along with oris,rolex and dont forget lum-tec they GOB! that superluminova on thier watches.;-)
Regarding what you said in beginning of film Regarding the Flash light In the UK its called a torch because it is a torch Its a constant light A lamp, or torch or spot light Its not called a flash light because it doesn't really get used to flash Like a camera has a flash light A maglite for example can be used to flash but its mainly used as a torch hence in the UK its called a torch. Nice one mate 😂
I haven't seen the video yet, but if he uses a flashlight… It's so stupid! Use the sun! Or for a properly challenging test, let the watch(es) sit in ambient indoor lighting for a while. Both real world situations. Why is everybody supercharging their lume with flashlights? (Nothing personal dude. Compliments on the channel!)
Green appears brighter do to our eyes picking up the wave length of green alot better... its one of the reasons why night vision goggles are always green... greets...
You should compare 2 similar watches,this two are two different classes, with tuna that has more luminous layers (is a professional diver watch). And you can focus more on describing watches than on your face. Nobody watches your videos to see your face but the watches. And there is not a time laps. Very unscientifically your experiment.
That was a great video. I think a more fair match to make would be lumibrite vs C3 SL. The bgw9 is great lume in color and longevity but the C3 is better in brightness and Longevity. My Friends Seamaster 2254.50 would match any Seiko I had.
It's all fine until u wake in the middle of the night and look at your watch and u still can't see the time. Do a test after the watches haven't been exposed to light for 3 or 5 hours - is that unrealistic ? I don't think so .
@The Time Teller hello sir, can u plz tell me a cheaply priced watch like that same type of glowing bezels which the Odyssea Mark ll have within $50-$60 dollars!!
hello sir, maybe it is more fair comparison to compare the tuna with rolex sub with maxi dial in the future. the amount of lume is quite same to me. in my opinion. put aside the price point between those two watches. just for the sake of lume war. haha...
T3 needs more longer videos like this!! The 2-3 min videos are kinda aggravating. Love these battles, how about your SKX vs Submariner lume test? Seiko's weakest vs Rolex's strongest.
I think this every time I see a lume comparison, people almost always go in favor of the lume that has more surface area, 'ohh it's brighter!' technically no, it just has more lume surface area per section so it gives off a larger halo, but if you look at the lume itself it's often the same actual brightness. That being said, apparent brightness surely accounts for something.. nice video.
The lumibrite can be easily seen several hours after a charge of 10 minutes under a bright lamp. Charge up two watches under a florescent lamp at point blank range for 10 minutes. Check out both each hour for up to four hours.
As more lume paint they apply as longer and brighter it lasts. Look at lume tec. They put 8 layers on it and it is like a lamp the whole night. Also Deep Blue takes lot of lume for their 2nd gen watches like Master 1000 II. Even easy readable after 10h. Love watches with lume on the bezel as it look always professional!
Speaking of "lume," I'd love to hear your thoughts on tritium watches. I have two Deep Blue watches (one with T-25 tubes and one with T-100 tubes). I love these watches because they are fairly inexpensive and look really cool. I'd love to hear your thoughts on watches with tritium.
Love this idea but maybe you need to do a take 2 video making it a little more scientific: 1. choose watches with similar lume patterns so the quantity of the lume material as close as possible 2. start with watches having NO glow 3. Charge the watches separately in a contained black place so light from charging other watch doesn't add to other watch 4. time how long the lumes take to de-charge and give the min/sec results at end. Thanks T3 great vid.
Impressive results, the Seiko did it for me...the blue lume is very nice and reminds me of moonlight for whatever reason. The green lume will always be stronger in my opinion. Nonetheless, a fantastic display for each watch. 🔥
The green luminating Seiko may be brighter and last longer, but I like the blue lumination Odissey and find it more practical, because of the luminating second hand which the Seiko did not apply at the counting tip of the hand.
Great vid Jory - do the manufacturers put out 'lume' data, maybe lux/surface area vs time or something like that? I've heard other people talk about 'layers of application' too. My Seiko's are green and my Citizens are blue :p)
Dude the seikos luma brite is insane. I’d say it’s def brighter. even though the indices are bigger they become white when charged unlike the bg. Even if the Michael had big round indices I don’t think it will turn white like the tuna.
Oh man!!! You have an excelent channel, I really enjoy your videos, this one is amaizing... But if you ask me, I really love Seiko, and it's lume looks like radioactive material, how ever both have an excelent bright... I just want to say at the end, thank's for your work at the channel
Why don't you do time-lapse, and see which one die first? Love it btw!
Benny Chia This....I always hear reviewers say that this or that lume lasts all night. I was hoping you would time laps it over a few hours.
Absolutely. Most watches fade out within an hour (except Luminox and similar watches of course) so a fade out test is essential.
Doug Nelson Lume does last all night. The thing is that it fades during the first hour about 90% and if your eyes are not adjusted to darkness you won’t see the lume after the first hour, if you went to bed, though, and you’d get up at 5 in the morning you’d definitely still see it. At least that’s the case with my Seiko SKX007.
Noosa Mike Lume does last all night. The thing is that it fades during the first hour about 90% and if your eyes are not adjusted to darkness you won’t see the lume after the first hour, if you went to bed, though, and you’d get up at 5 in the morning you’d definitely still see it. At least that’s the case with my Seiko SKX007.
I actually clicked on the video because I assumed thats what he did haha.
Cool video. And, from my own experience Lumibrite is generally a tiny bit better than any other common superluminova type lume out there. It really depends on the application also. More on that below.
Lumibrite will be very strong when initially charged.. it almost feels radioactive. it is very strong at the beginning. Then when it fades a bit, it's still very long lasting and glows sufficiently well throughout the night. I also find Lumibrite, at least the newest formula used in the SBBN033 (or similar models), to be very reactive and currently, imho, the best.. Doesn't take that much to get it charged and it lasts long. I joke to myself and others that it's so good, it practically negates nearly any advantage tritium tubes have since you can effectively see the lume easily with minimal charge time and it lasts a very long time.. well long enough than anyone should need to spend in complete darkness.
Lumibrite in general, regardless of colors, is pretty good.. talking stuff like C3 and BGW9. Supposedly there's anewer formula of C1 lume that's supposed to be better than C1 of the past. Anyways, they are nearly as good as Lumibrite, but does seem just a tiny bit behind Lumibrite.. they don't seem seem as bright after freshly being charged and they typically fade a bit faster than Lumibrite.
But, once you get both Lumibrite and Superluminova dimmed down and normalized at the lower lume glow level, they are about the same in terms of legibility when dimmed in very dark situations. I also have found Lumibrite endures just a tiny bit longer than Superluminova.
Out of all the Superluminova including C3, BGW9, C1, and all the stuff in between including the Aged Radium looking lume.. C3 Green will be the most "potent". Green color will always show the strongest. BGW9 comes in very close, but because of the blue glow, it at least visually appears slightly less potent than C3.
And, you really have to factor in the application. A larger and heavier deposit of lume paint will of course be stronger and more enduring. Consequently, lesser smaller applications will respectively be less so. Additionally, keep in mind perhaps the date of the application. If you compare a watch now 2018 to a watch from say 10 or even 5 years ago, chances are the lume intensity and performance will alter and reflect respectively.
I would add, i've done my own custom Seiko mod with lume paint. Look up my "Night King" SKX mod on UA-cam. I have Yobokies Grand Seiko Diver hands which seemingly glow as much as Lumibrite. I have no idea what Yobokies uses, I assume C3 green lume. I have also repainted the lume on my aftermarket dial with a blue lume paint kit because it was weak C1 lume on it. And, I can say to my surprise that the $20 blue lume paint kit seams to glow just like BGW9 and lasts just as long as the Yobokies hands and all of them perform just about as good as Lumibrite. Reactive, strong bright glow upon fresh charge, a "good" sustained glow after removal from light charging source, and legible thoughout the night till morning.. a good 6-8 hours at least. BUT, if I'm being honest and nitpicking, they are still just an insignificant amount less than Lumibrite. But, damn close enough.
I think there are plenty of very good lume being used on most modern watches these days, the differences will be marginal at best. But, I have seen and experienced some REALLY BAD lume application.. it's to the point where why bother? It pisses me off because it is more disappointing to see the application is so bad and weak than if they had not tried at all and not put the weak ass lume.
I woander what means semi-permanent longevity for lumibrite. Why Superluminova is permanent and lumibrite is semi-permanent ? After a while lumibrite will not be able to recharge ?
But how long did they actually last? Minutes? Hours?
You sure that lumibrite is not radioactive ? 😂
Timur Hafouz funny
You only showed the loom for 5 minutes.
It would be interesting to see what happens hour after hour along the night.
Seiko loom is VERY bright first 10 minutes, but at the end of the night, it is not much brighter than my Citizen Fugu, for instance.
I'm really pleased with the Lumibrite on my Alpinist, even though it's small dots it still has enough lume when I wake up in the middle of the night.
Same here with my Alpinist. No difficulty with recognizing the time through the night. Yes, the lume has dimmed significantly, but my eyes have adapted to the darkness so it works out well.
Would be nice to see a comparison between Seiko and Rolex, Rolex uses a compound just as bright as what Seiko’s proprietary stuff is.
I have a 40 year old Lorus Dive watch. It's so bright you could find your way out of a coal mine at midnight. Lasts for hours too! None of my other watches come close.
In general blue lume is always dimmer than green. It's pretty amazing how well the blue lume is actually doing. The more lume you use the longer it will last as well
@ Adam Severinsen. I read somewhere on the internet that although green luminescent paint on watch hands and minute markers initially glows brighter than blue luminescent paint, blue luminescent paint dims slower than green luminescent paint and ,therefore, glows in the dark longer than green luminescent paint.
Your eye / brain will detect green before blue. That's why green lume is mostly used. It seems brighter / more impressive. But once your eyes adjust to low light conditions, you will see dim blue before dim green. It's more detectable to your eye. Therefore, if your using your watch to illuminate something like an key hole, green lume is an better choice. If your using the lume to tell time at 2pm 3pm.... then blue lume or bgw9 Is an much better choice. Green lumed watches sell more units because they do better in youtube watch reviews. So.... there you have the info. Peace
@@jvanleeuwenCdn wtf are you talking about? LOL almost all of the "info" you state here is utter non-sense.
@@jvanleeuwenCdn . I never said or even suggested that green lume is a "horrible" choice to put on the watch hands and watch markers on watch dials. I merely stated what I had read somewhere on the internet (possibly an article on the subject on Wikipedia) about green lume appearing initially brighter in the dark than blue lume , but that over time, blue lume dims slower than green lume. Sometime in the near future I'll do a comparison in which I'll check one of my watches in the dark that has blue lume versus one of my watches that has green lume and determine which is easier to see in the dark at 2AM or 3AM in the morning.
How long does the paint last though? It's it dead after 10 minutes or 10 hours?
What time is it please?
The Tuna is ridiculous even compared to other Seikos. I have a watches with Superluminova and Lumibrite and they are both bright and they both last through the night so that there is lume at daybreak. Lumibrite is fractionally brighter at the beginning and end but both do their jobs. Thanks for another great video Jory :)
Agreed - great analysis of both👌
The real question, how long does the lume last ?
That was just plain fun!! I enjoyed every "un-scientific" minute of the video because it was representative of something any normal person would have done in their own living room. Ok, maybe just me...but then I'm not so normal :) Nothing takes me back to my childhood like a good ole flashlight and glow in the dark stuff!! Thanks for sharing your fun test with all of us!!
So if we put them facing each other, wouldn't they shined forever? :v
The Seiko is brighter, but I like more the colour of the superluminova
To do this correctly and add some objectivity, one would need two identical Coleman flashlights, a timer and a way to hit each watch with light at the exact same time. Also, lume surface area plays a large part here. It's the large round globes in the SEIKO verses the flat thin markers in the Legrand. I submit this respectfully.This was fun, if somewhat subjective.
You should test them after one or two hours in the dark and see who glow more.
Yeah, Awesome video. Awesome lume on both those watches!! Love the colour of the BGW9!! The lumibrite seems to light up the whole watch!! Certainly the Lumibrite looks way brighter and for longer!
A comparison between the Tuna and the Boldr Odyssey would have been a better idea, since the Boldr has the same lume as the Richand Legrand, but with way bigger indexes.
Hi there the lumes are super cool but don't they flake off and get blacked out ruining the watch like some 8 to 10 years down the line. Correct me if I'm wrong
Easy win for Seiko....the Odyssea is a handsome watch tho!
Thanks for trying proper English for your British viewers, now just say aluminium instead of aluminum 😂👍👍
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Oh my Jory! I see the top of it in this shot, and it's not really a stripper pole! 😲
I feel you should have compared regular superluminova yo lumibrite. The blue superluminova is in general weaker than the regular green. Just as the patina lume is weaker than any other color due to the way it can absorb uv
The real estate of the tuna's indices are bigger and green will always be warmer than blue. And these are not the only 2 players in the game, you should have thrown in a tritium powered watch into the mix
The lume on the tuna is so bright you can see the date and read the words on the dial
I have a Tissot T Connect T Touch (orange numbers and black face) with Superluminova and a SEIKO (King Turtle Mantra save the ocean blue face) with Lumibrite and let me tell you SEIKO wins every time hands down!
Awesome review 😁
Are you testing the watches or the luminous material? Because if you're trying to test/compare the actual luminosity of the luminous materials, then you need to apply them in the exact same amount across the exact same surface material, in the exact same pattern. Your test only compares the individual application of each luminous material to disparate surfaces and in different amounts in different patterns.
Lumibrite rules!
I have many seikos and they’re all awesome but nothing beats tritium. It glows for 25 years without a flashlight. I have a Deep Blue Diver that can be used as a night light it’s so bright (which might be needed if you hit it’s 6000 feet max depth). And no you won’t get injured from radiation as much as people seem to believe smh. I’m really surprised more watch manufacturers don’t use tritium.
I like C3 better than BGW9. I feel like Seiko does too. Sure it's called Lumibrite, but I'd bet it's similar to C3. My opinion. I'm going with a Heimdallr SKX homage, for the C3 lume, and it's a better SKX than Seiko. 🤔
The Seiko SKX/5KX lume easily beats the Submariner in both brightness and longevity. I have demonstrated it a few times. Not bad for watches costing a tiny fraction of the Sub.
The only real way to compare them is side-by-side, each with it's own identical light source ... instead of going cheap and only using one black light, waving it side to side. This wasn't a very good test.
In this video comparison of SuperLuminova versus Lumibrite, the only reason that the watch on the right appears brighter in the dark than the watch on the left is because the watch markers and watch hands on the watch dial on the right are lumed with white lume which naturally makes that watch dial appear to be brighter than the blue-lumed watch hands and markers on the watch dial on the left. White lume on watch hands and/or markers always appears to be more vividly bright than green or blue lume. In other words, white lume naturally "stands out" more than blue or green lume on watch hands and markers.
Green lume will always be brighter and last longer than blue lume. The phosphorus is the green is more natural than in the blue, which makes it brighter and last longer.
Enjoyed this as it’s important to me. Thanks. Can you do a 3 hour Vlog so I can see what they look like after 3 hours!! 😹
Jory, I have a question. It is important to me that a watch be readable ALL NIGHT. Is there any lume but tritium that will permit this?
Undoubtedly the Seiko has a lot more lume so it isn't really a fair comparison. However, the lume pips on the second hands are approximately the same size and suggests the Seiko would still win a fair fight.
My Luminox tritium needs no other light source to brighten the hands. Tritium stays bright for years regardless of outside influence.
The Odyssea is much better looking. Love how you only see the tip of the second hand.
The Marine Master (Tuna) is a 'tool' watch pure and simple. I contend putting it up against a desk diver is invalid. As others have noted the human eye detects green rather better than blue. That is why the HUD in jet fighters is depicted in green rather than any other colour.
You're very good. You're the top. Can I just suggest you lower your voice? Thank you. Keep it up!
The human eye is the most sensitive to light in the green end of the spectrum. The camera might have a different peak in the color range.
Seiko got bigger finish of lume. The other watch waaaaay less. Do Not compare!
This is your most visually appealing video so far. Love the shots with the lume!
I know this video is 3 years old, but I agree with you the more surface area the brighter it should be.
How many years does it last. If it's bright now but only lasts 5 to 10 years then it's useless.
What is seiko lumebright Exact model no.????
Seiko for the win! Next time do a time lapse!
Why don't you go by the hands? They are more similar in size than the numerals. And your always going to get better brightness with green than with blue no matter what Lume you pick. So the test you have done is not a fair test in my book.
Again... good job. Best Channel about watches. That's for sure...
Wooop! Thanks so much!!!
i hate the fact Seiko dosent lume the bezel. Annoying.
This video was... illuminating. Ok I’ll leave.
Can't believe you've tested it for 1 minute
The lume on the Tuna is insane. I don't think I have a watch that has better lume than the Tuna. My experience with the BGw9 is that it is not as bright as the Lumibrite, but it does seem to have good longevity..
I know what the heck you're talking about. This is my comment confirming as much.
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UV light charges them really quickly
Super Luminova is respectable, but Luminrite scores a KO!
Can you compare with a Ball watch to anything? The Ball will be the standard by which all others are measured.
Tod Schuck Ball watches use a totally different luminescent chemical, don't they? It has a gas release valve (is this related to the Lume?), and replaces older radioactive elements they used to use.
Jesse Somer correct, they use tritium gas tubes that never need light to charge. The amount of luminescence is amazing. It never decays over the course of a night and is good for about 25 years.
Lumabrite is the best I've encountered but I think the blue bgw9 looks cooler. I have a microbrand watch (Borealis Seastorm v2) with a healthy amount of bgw9 and it's probably the only watch in my collection that comes close to my newest seiko. It's not quite as good as lumabrite but it's still pretty impressive. I have a couple of seiko divers from the early and late 90s and the lume has diminished considerably over the years. I'm not sure if seiko changed their formula over the years or if it just loses its mojo over time but they're not even close to my newer seikos.
Why don't they do this stuff and tritium?
While the brightness of the lume is important, I think the longevity/readability is more important. In a movie theater, I need a watch that will last at least two hours so I can read the time on my watch. Neither of these lumes will last this time frame. That is why I purchased a Ball watch with tritium gas tube lighting. The lume is never extremely bright with tritium, but you can read the time all night long.
Won't even last 2 hours? That's just pointless. Tritium is absolutely the way to go.
Lumibrite is superior for sure.
Honestly the superluminova looks nice to me. I wouldn't want my watch to glow too brightly. Feel like it would draw way too much attention but that might be because the Seiko has much larger markers and hands.
isnt that the point ? lol
Blue lume or bgw9 is easier to see or read when your eye adjusts to low light conditions. It takes an while for your eyes to adjust. Green lume will always look initially, more impressive. For telling the time at night in an dark room, bgw9 wins.
But in semi low light conditions green lume is perfered.
Lumabrite.. all the way
Not fair the Tuna is a beast
green is always going to look brighter to the human eye thats why its used so much by the watch and gun site companies,our eyes see it better,having said that seikos lume is one of the best,along with oris,rolex and dont forget lum-tec they GOB! that superluminova on thier watches.;-)
Regarding what you said in beginning of film
Regarding the Flash light
In the UK its called a torch
because it is a torch
Its a constant light
A lamp, or torch or spot light
Its not called a flash light because it doesn't really get used to flash
Like a camera has a flash light
A maglite for example can be used to flash but its mainly used as a torch hence in the UK its called a torch.
Nice one mate 😂
I haven't seen the video yet, but if he uses a flashlight… It's so stupid! Use the sun! Or for a properly challenging test, let the watch(es) sit in ambient indoor lighting for a while. Both real world situations. Why is everybody supercharging their lume with flashlights?
(Nothing personal dude. Compliments on the channel!)
Green appears brighter do to our eyes picking up the wave length of green alot better... its one of the reasons why night vision goggles are always green... greets...
You should compare 2 similar watches,this two are two different classes, with tuna that has more luminous layers (is a professional diver watch). And you can focus more on describing watches than on your face. Nobody watches your videos to see your face but the watches. And there is not a time laps. Very unscientifically your experiment.
Wish you could have your Seiko go up against a Helm Khuraburi (with C3 or BGW9)
That was a great video. I think a more fair match to make would be lumibrite vs C3 SL. The bgw9 is great lume in color and longevity but the C3 is better in brightness and Longevity. My Friends Seamaster 2254.50 would match any Seiko I had.
It's all fine until u wake in the middle of the night and look at your watch and u still can't see the time. Do a test after the watches haven't been exposed to light for 3 or 5 hours - is that unrealistic ? I don't think so .
I’d say it’s not a fair comparison because there is more lume on the Seiko than the other.
@The Time Teller hello sir, can u plz tell me a cheaply priced watch like that same type of glowing bezels which the Odyssea Mark ll have within $50-$60 dollars!!
hello sir, maybe it is more fair comparison to compare the tuna with rolex sub with maxi dial in the future. the amount of lume is quite same to me. in my opinion. put aside the price point between those two watches. just for the sake of lume war. haha...
Can anyone tell me the model name of that seiko ?
T3 needs more longer videos like this!! The 2-3 min videos are kinda aggravating. Love these battles, how about your SKX vs Submariner lume test? Seiko's weakest vs Rolex's strongest.
I think much of the difference comes from the different colors as well as the marker sizes. Blue will always look dimmer than white.
You had me at torch xx
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I think this every time I see a lume comparison, people almost always go in favor of the lume that has more surface area, 'ohh it's brighter!' technically no, it just has more lume surface area per section so it gives off a larger halo, but if you look at the lume itself it's often the same actual brightness. That being said, apparent brightness surely accounts for something.. nice video.
The lumibrite can be easily seen several hours after a charge of 10 minutes under a bright lamp. Charge up two watches under a florescent lamp at point blank range for 10 minutes. Check out both each hour for up to four hours.
As more lume paint they apply as longer and brighter it lasts. Look at lume tec. They put 8 layers on it and it is like a lamp the whole night. Also Deep Blue takes lot of lume for their 2nd gen watches like Master 1000 II. Even easy readable after 10h. Love watches with lume on the bezel as it look always professional!
The amount of lume of the two different watches don't match. Try comparing the helm khuraburi to the tuna instead
Speaking of "lume," I'd love to hear your thoughts on tritium watches. I have two Deep Blue watches (one with T-25 tubes and one with T-100 tubes). I love these watches because they are fairly inexpensive and look really cool. I'd love to hear your thoughts on watches with tritium.
Love this idea but maybe you need to do a take 2 video making it a little more scientific: 1. choose watches with similar lume patterns so the quantity of the lume material as close as possible 2. start with watches having NO glow 3. Charge the watches separately in a contained black place so light from charging other watch doesn't add to other watch 4. time how long the lumes take to de-charge and give the min/sec results at end. Thanks T3 great vid.
Impressive results, the Seiko did it for me...the blue lume is very nice and reminds me of moonlight for whatever reason. The green lume will always be stronger in my opinion. Nonetheless, a fantastic display for each watch. 🔥
Try uv light
The green luminating Seiko may be brighter and last longer, but I like the blue lumination Odissey and find it more practical, because of the luminating second hand which the Seiko did not apply at the counting tip of the hand.
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Great vid Jory - do the manufacturers put out 'lume' data, maybe lux/surface area vs time or something like that? I've heard other people talk about 'layers of application' too. My Seiko's are green and my Citizens are blue :p)
Fun vid TT. Good use of the torch mate.
Proper tool watchs, the Tuna would be worn by the tradesman and the Odyssey by the boss! 😎
Hi, Would you recommend the RL? Is a watch as good as seiko? at least quality price? or does it bring problems?
Dude the seikos luma brite is insane. I’d say it’s def brighter. even though the indices are bigger they become white when charged unlike the bg. Even if the Michael had big round indices I don’t think it will turn white like the tuna.
In conclusion, if you need to be able to see you watch during the night forget about lume. Get tritium or a good old indiglo.
Please consider a Lum-Tec MDV comparison to Seiko Lumibrite.
The minute hands are very close in thickness, so I would say that the seiko lume is way better!
Oh man!!! You have an excelent channel, I really enjoy your videos, this one is amaizing... But if you ask me, I really love Seiko, and it's lume looks like radioactive material, how ever both have an excelent bright... I just want to say at the end, thank's for your work at the channel
Seiko ftw!