It’s worth remembering as well that they’re fundamentally rugged, simple machines and concept 2’s parts support is utterly phenomenal. There’s not an awful lot you can’t fix.
Awesome walk through Shane. I bought a used Model C in 2016. Though the PM3 had 129k meters on it, I'm betting they replaced the monitor, so I have no idea as to the actual meters on the rower. Before I bought it, I sat on it and pulled (Oh sorry, I meant pushed) through a few rowing cycles, maybe 30 seconds. What I learned once I got it home, is that when his son was using the rower, he was most likely in the basement with unfaced insulation in the floor joist's overhead. The whole inside of the flywheel housing and the perforated outlet were covered with fiberglass insulation. I spent 8 - 12 hours disassembling the whole thing, cleaning it and reassembling it. So when looking at a used rower show up with your workout gear on and give it a 10 minute test, in their house... All that said I love my rower. Since then I've put 2.49M meters on it. I put a new shock cord and Monitor Pickup on it. Other than my chainsaw and a couple mustangs long ago, this is one of the best purchases of my life.
I recently serviced my clubs ergs following a chain snapping . Most of the machines were 18 years old and were still on their original bungee/shock cords, and chains. All chains had lost their silvery shine. They were brown with slightest signs of rust but none were showing signs of snagging under strain. The bungees were in good condition though two of them had been shortened to take up slack. This seaside club is damp(no heating) and exposed to a salty atmosphere,so the condition of the machines is a good testament to the build of the D ergs. The snapped chain was a wake up call, All chains,shock cords and top seat rollers were replaced. Front and rear feet are steel and rust was showing through the light blue paint work. Concept spare parts being very reasonably priced so it was cheaper/easier to replace. We opted for black feet to better hide future corrosion spots. All removed shock cords were 30cm (12inches) longer than the new lengths,so they do stretch with constant use. A question for you. Does shortening/tightening the shock cord affect the performance of the machineor the drag factor. Would it be fare for example, to have machines with tight bungees competing side by side with a normal tensioned machines ?
Just bought a model e for $225. Good shape, no problems, and 500,000 meters. Needs a little cleaning. Thanks for this video. It helped me know what to look for.
IMO just buy it, as everything can be fixed. I have bought about 6 used C2s and also 3 new once. Most of the used once had hardly been used and have just been collecting dust. The PM memory also showed splits like 3:00+ and spm like 35 showing that the owners did not really have proper technique skills. I upgraded some PM3 and PM4 to PM5 and bought some missing screws, a front lock and chain oil. Easy to fix and upgrade. Its a no brainer. If you buy a used one you always get back what you paid for it. However I believe most of us will use it. Just Rock ´n Row! :)
Bought Concept 2 with PM5 monitor for 800 after rowing competition at a local high school. When I found out about the competition I called asked if they were selling and reserved a machine and bought after conclusion of comp.
Thank you for this excellent video guide. I have just bought used Concept2 DPM5 that is in an excellent shape and I got it for a very good price with all your advices 😊
Hey Shane, greetings from Germany! Bought a Concept 2 Second Hand in December 2018 and am super happy. Got up to it with watching you after not being able to row since it was December and not the summer.. It still works super well and I can only second the "slide of seat" aspect. The seat just went right to the front without any bums or noise and it still does. The vendor let me use it for a few minutes and it only had around 12 hours on it. I only looked for PM5 and I think I got a really good price, I think it was 800€ back then. Those are most of the tips I just thought about myself, but it would've definetly helped a lot if I had them back then. Thank you!
Awesome video! I found a Model D with PM5 and only 400k meters for $400 on facebook marketplace and was pretty suspicious because it seemed like such a good deal. I used the criteria in this video to evaluate it and ended up buying it. I'm so glad I did!! Excited to get into my rowing era now :)
I bought my Concept2 for less than half the price from a friend whose daughter was on the high school rowing team. She hadn't used it much before she decided rowing wasn't for her and wanted to sell it.
Found one with 6 hrs on it. Lady bought it to help recover from knee surgery. I feel guilty since it is great for my recovery and range of motion, a great buy on a new machine.
Not looking to buy a used machine (already own a C2) but I found this information excellent "good to knows" regarding maintenance and operational tips for my machine etc. Thanks for providing such a detailed explanation and demonstration! 👍
I got lucky and found a year old model d on sale locally to me for just £500.When all others were selling them for 700-750. It only had 600k metres on it and I’ve been loving it. Great video btw
Some years ago, I bought a model C with 65.000 km. It was old but worked fine. Concept 2 means great quality and the best support on the market. If you need, concept 2 will provide you with spare parts down to model A! Some months later I sold it only to buy the actual model.
I don't know what the concept 2 situation is currently like over in the US, but here in the UK new one's are now no longer available because of no stock and the lockdown. People are selling used ones for almost double the price of new ones on various selling websites. Lets hope they see this video before they panic buy! As for me, my concept 2 is not going anywhere, I would never sell it!
Very good video. Two things, probably mistakes. 1: the c model has standard PM 2 monitor or advanced PM 2+ monitor. Not PM 3 monitor . 2: the photo at 7:54 has a technogym machine not a concept 2 machine
Im going to look at one in the morning. One thing you didnt mention was the printing on the buttons. Ive seen some for sale that you can hardly read. Id think they had hadva lot of use The one I'm going to see tomorrow looks like its hardly been used (fingers crossed!)
wish i have seen this video like a month ago, so at least I could show the guy that I knew much do than he does, lolz. I got an old Model D (10 years old plus) from an small local gym, its PM3 was totally out of functions, so I ordered a brand new PM5 and censor. Just got everything installed a week ago, got some 1st proper sessions with it. Everything's been great so far. Total cost me like 500 bucks.
Just picked up a model C (including PM5 and a few other upgrades) used for $400... paid about $100 for maintenance kit, and a few other components that were either worn or not working... A little oil and elbow grease... and BOOM... feels new. I mean damn... these things last forever and are the most repairable piece of machinery I've ever seen.
---- I was fortunate to buy one of the last new model Ds off Ebay a couple weeks ago as the CV outbreak has stopped production. If I waited another day I would not have it. Price gouging of dumbbells/barbells is in full effect. They are nowhere to be found as most gym rats now need a home gym to get them through this pandemic. Power towers are also in demand. My Concept 2 D is the best purchase I've made. Stay safe everyone.
This was useful, but what would have been more useful is to review a couple of older, well-used machines. I'd like to know, as an earlier poster mentioned, what can't be fixed on these. For example, is there a part on an early model that is no longer available, etc.
Dark Horse Rowing, just what I needed! thanks a lot! Did not understand the problem of the monorail not still glued. Not easy to fix? Or it indicate inadquate use, storage? tks
I saw a 13 year old machine offered for a full new price including rust. I almost paid full price for a 5 year old machine. But it only has been used like 10 times.
Try adding some strength work. I.e. Abs/Trunk, Glute and posterior chain strengthening. Examples include general 'abs' exercises: planks, Russian twists etc. Glute: Glute bridges, hip thrust Leg, Posterior chain, glute: Squat, Deadlift, Front squat, RDL etc.
Hi! my seat used to slide to the front automatically, I moved the rower little to the right and now it doesn't slide to the front anymore. It just happened when I moved it! Please help! Thanks
It’s worth remembering as well that they’re fundamentally rugged, simple machines and concept 2’s parts support is utterly phenomenal. There’s not an awful lot you can’t fix.
Awesome walk through Shane. I bought a used Model C in 2016. Though the PM3 had 129k meters on it, I'm betting they replaced the monitor, so I have no idea as to the actual meters on the rower. Before I bought it, I sat on it and pulled (Oh sorry, I meant pushed) through a few rowing cycles, maybe 30 seconds. What I learned once I got it home, is that when his son was using the rower, he was most likely in the basement with unfaced insulation in the floor joist's overhead. The whole inside of the flywheel housing and the perforated outlet were covered with fiberglass insulation. I spent 8 - 12 hours disassembling the whole thing, cleaning it and reassembling it. So when looking at a used rower show up with your workout gear on and give it a 10 minute test, in their house... All that said I love my rower. Since then I've put 2.49M meters on it. I put a new shock cord and Monitor Pickup on it. Other than my chainsaw and a couple mustangs long ago, this is one of the best purchases of my life.
I recently serviced my clubs ergs following a chain snapping . Most of the machines were 18 years old and were still on their original bungee/shock cords, and chains. All chains had lost their silvery shine. They were brown with slightest signs of rust but none were showing signs of snagging under strain. The bungees were in good condition though two of them had been shortened to take up slack. This seaside club is damp(no heating) and exposed to a salty atmosphere,so the condition of the machines is a good testament to the build of the D ergs. The snapped chain was a wake up call, All chains,shock cords and top seat rollers were replaced. Front and rear feet are steel and rust was showing through the light blue paint work. Concept spare parts being very reasonably priced so it was cheaper/easier to replace. We opted for black feet to better hide future corrosion spots. All removed shock cords were 30cm (12inches) longer than the new lengths,so they do stretch with constant use. A question for you. Does shortening/tightening the shock cord affect the performance of the machineor the drag factor. Would it be fare for example, to have machines with tight bungees competing side by side with a normal tensioned machines ?
Just bought a model e for $225. Good shape, no problems, and 500,000 meters. Needs a little cleaning. Thanks for this video. It helped me know what to look for.
Literally driving to pick up a concept2 rower in an hour...thanks!
IMO just buy it, as everything can be fixed. I have bought about 6 used C2s and also 3 new once. Most of the used once had hardly been used and have just been collecting dust. The PM memory also showed splits like 3:00+ and spm like 35 showing that the owners did not really have proper technique skills. I upgraded some PM3 and PM4 to PM5 and bought some missing screws, a front lock and chain oil. Easy to fix and upgrade.
Its a no brainer. If you buy a used one you always get back what you paid for it. However I believe most of us will use it. Just Rock ´n Row! :)
I watched this video and then went out and bought a 2nd hand Concept2 E today. Thanks! Only 977K meters on it.
Bought Concept 2 with PM5 monitor for 800 after rowing competition at a local high school. When I found out about the competition I called asked if they were selling and reserved a machine and bought after conclusion of comp.
Thank you for this excellent video guide. I have just bought used Concept2 DPM5 that is in an excellent shape and I got it for a very good price with all your advices 😊
Hey Shane, greetings from Germany! Bought a Concept 2 Second Hand in December 2018 and am super happy. Got up to it with watching you after not being able to row since it was December and not the summer.. It still works super well and I can only second the "slide of seat" aspect. The seat just went right to the front without any bums or noise and it still does. The vendor let me use it for a few minutes and it only had around 12 hours on it. I only looked for PM5 and I think I got a really good price, I think it was 800€ back then.
Those are most of the tips I just thought about myself, but it would've definetly helped a lot if I had them back then. Thank you!
Awesome video! I found a Model D with PM5 and only 400k meters for $400 on facebook marketplace and was pretty suspicious because it seemed like such a good deal. I used the criteria in this video to evaluate it and ended up buying it. I'm so glad I did!! Excited to get into my rowing era now :)
Very informative video! Thank you for sharing. Keep up the good work.
I bought my Concept2 for less than half the price from a friend whose daughter was on the high school rowing team. She hadn't used it much before she decided rowing wasn't for her and wanted to sell it.
17:45 Scotty!!! He will show us the proper way to change the sparkplugs in the Concept2
Found one with 6 hrs on it. Lady bought it to help recover from knee surgery. I feel guilty since it is great for my recovery and range of motion, a great buy on a new machine.
Not looking to buy a used machine (already own a C2) but I found this information excellent "good to knows" regarding maintenance and operational tips for my machine etc. Thanks for providing such a detailed explanation and demonstration! 👍
I got lucky and found a year old model d on sale locally to me for just £500.When all others were selling them for 700-750. It only had 600k metres on it and I’ve been loving it. Great video btw
Some years ago, I bought a model C with 65.000 km. It was old but worked fine. Concept 2 means great quality and the best support on the market. If you need, concept 2 will provide you with spare parts down to model A! Some months later I sold it only to buy the actual model.
Just bought a used Model C in great condition. I used the checklist to verify everything was ship shape. Thanks so much for this guide!
I don't know what the concept 2 situation is currently like over in the US, but here in the UK new one's are now no longer available because of no stock and the lockdown. People are selling used ones for almost double the price of new ones on various selling websites. Lets hope they see this video before they panic buy! As for me, my concept 2 is not going anywhere, I would never sell it!
On the flip side, many will be under dire straights and have to start selling off assets. Cash in hand is a remarkable bargaining tool.
Very good video. Two things, probably mistakes. 1: the c model has standard PM 2 monitor or advanced PM 2+ monitor. Not PM 3 monitor . 2: the photo at 7:54 has a technogym machine not a concept 2 machine
Im going to look at one in the morning. One thing you didnt mention was the printing on the buttons. Ive seen some for sale that you can hardly read. Id think they had hadva lot of use
The one I'm going to see tomorrow looks like its hardly been used (fingers crossed!)
Thanks for this video, watched it before picking up a Model D today.
wish i have seen this video like a month ago, so at least I could show the guy that I knew much do than he does, lolz. I got an old Model D (10 years old plus) from an small local gym, its PM3 was totally out of functions, so I ordered a brand new PM5 and censor. Just got everything installed a week ago, got some 1st proper sessions with it. Everything's been great so far. Total cost me like 500 bucks.
Just picked up a model C (including PM5 and a few other upgrades) used for $400... paid about $100 for maintenance kit, and a few other components that were either worn or not working... A little oil and elbow grease... and BOOM... feels new.
I mean damn... these things last forever and are the most repairable piece of machinery I've ever seen.
I liked the video! It explains anything about the rowing machine 👍
---- I was fortunate to buy one of the last new model Ds off Ebay a couple weeks ago as the CV outbreak has stopped production. If I waited another day I would not have it. Price gouging of dumbbells/barbells is in full effect. They are nowhere to be found as most gym rats now need a home gym to get them through this pandemic. Power towers are also in demand. My Concept 2 D is the best purchase I've made. Stay safe everyone.
This was useful, but what would have been more useful is to review a couple of older, well-used machines. I'd like to know, as an earlier poster mentioned, what can't be fixed on these. For example, is there a part on an early model that is no longer available, etc.
Go to Concept2 and look at the parts to get a feel for what is and is not available, by machine. shop.concept2.com/55-model-a.
Dark Horse Rowing, just what I needed! thanks a lot! Did not understand the problem of the monorail not still glued. Not easy to fix? Or it indicate inadquate use, storage? tks
Can the odometer be reset or is it like a car's odometer?
Wonderful information. Outstanding. Thank you.
A guy in my area is selling a used one for 50$. I’m debating on buying it. I want it, just it’ll put me right on $ for a while
Very helpful thanks
Its like you've read my mind.
great advice!! Thanks Shane!
I saw a 13 year old machine offered for a full new price including rust. I almost paid full price for a 5 year old machine. But it only has been used like 10 times.
Awesome video! I find it very helpful for me right now as I'm meeting a seller today. Thank you so much for this!
Great video!
Thank you!
16:17 Should be at the beginning of the video :)))
Looking for a used one here in Italy but is seems impossible
Or just expect you're going to clean shit.
Hey, i just started rowing and struggle to keep my back straight during the movement (i generally struggle with posture). Any tipps?
Try adding some strength work. I.e. Abs/Trunk, Glute and posterior chain strengthening.
Examples include general 'abs' exercises: planks, Russian twists etc.
Glute: Glute bridges, hip thrust
Leg, Posterior chain, glute: Squat, Deadlift, Front squat, RDL etc.
Circuits training also helped me as a novice. Core strength is even more important in a boat when you're rotating when rowing sweep.
Hi! my seat used to slide to the front automatically, I moved the rower little to the right and now it doesn't slide to the front anymore. It just happened when I moved it! Please help! Thanks
Move it a little to the left?
@@RushedaSavage Thank you!