Plastering Trade Tools & Pro Tips - KB#12
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
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James gets on to the plastering and chats with Roger about his tools and tips (and life).
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This lovely bloke totally reminds me of myself. Very humble, doesn't boast, isn't afraid of new advances (speedskim, sponge float, extratime retarder etc), he cares about what he does, he respects the fact that he's working in someone's home instead of on a construction site, and he's focused on quality rather than quantity. The trade needs more like him. BTW - ordered the shaving trial pack just because of the connection with men's mental health. We don't talk about it much in the building industry - but we should. We really should. It affects more of us than we would care to admit to. Another great video, enjoyed it.
Nice to watch a guy who really cares about the finished job. Great video again
Top vid , really enjoyed hearing a bit about james’s background, different jobs he’s been on, and getting going on his own 👍🏻
I like his style, not out to impress anybody, knows his stuff and knows the value in taking your time to not only do a job correctly but somewhat enjoy the process as well. Thank you for the information, one day I’d like to try my hand at plastering; here in Alberta, Canada it’s all mudding and taping - just not the same quality of finish as plaster unfortunately! Good job!
Christopher
You are right, James and Ian are good guys to have in your house. It is something of a tragedy that James was looking to pack it in not that long ago. They are not looking to rob anybody and we hope they get lots of good quality enquiries from Skill Builder.
Bit of plastering, nice little chat, what more could you want!
James's story is a lesson to everyone... you don't need to learn a trade to do something! Show an interest, ask questions & always be grateful to those who give you a chance to learn.
To be fair he did go to college for carpentry and the rest he picked up. He is an annoying bloke because he is also a good guitarist (played in two bands) and is a good cook among other things.
@@SkillBuilder ah james is a great guy. I love seen him on skill builder. I'm not saying anything bad about him. My point is... when I started out in my trade, UA-cam wasn't around & you had to research several books. With the advent of the internet, UA-cam etc. Wanting to learn a new craft or skill is the click of a finger. & a massive thanks has to be given to guys like yourself.
Hahaha... legend has Roger, you once auditioned for Led zeppelin. You didn't get the gig, because your manager fucked it up. 🤣. Don't tell james that...
And after learning under some good and some bad I’ve become the bloke now who will answer anyone’s questions while I’m working away like “why you do that?” What’s the reason for doing that and it’s good to share knowledge and your skill set with someone who is keen to find out why
I’ve just done a plastering course, it’s good to see it getting done exactly how I’ve been taught, I’ve been using extra time. Just because I’ve been taking it very slow, working on a good finish. 👍
Extratime has been a game changer, especially for someone like yourself starting out - it takes a lot of the panic out of a job when you've mixed up and need to get it on the wall and fairly flat before it starts going off. Even for me with 30 years on the trowel - for big ceilings, it's incredible. All the best with your future plastering endeavours.
I’m enjoying watching you work James while drinking a beer after a long day of my own. From the pebbledash to the plaster you’ve got it covered, looks good, power to your elbow and thanks for letting us look over your shoulder. 👍👍
These conversional, fly on the wall style videos are really entertaining, interesting and informative. Really excellent stuff and a fantastic series. Thanks very much - a lot of work clearly goes into the Skill Builder videos and it shows.
Thank you Steve. It is nice to hear from someone who understands how a video is made,
Quick tip with PVA, I use food colouring in my PVA, so you can see where you’ve coated.
If you can’t pva a wall id give it up mate
Chris Beech strawman argument. He never said he can’t PVA a wall, he just gave a tip to make the job easier.
Good tip that!
@@MarcusT86 No need to be Beechy ay, Chris.
Listen lad's God only knows how you can get a vertical wall flat, I've put partitioning up metal fabricated beautifully flat but can I hell as like plaster it as flat as I built it,, each to their own I suppose, the food colour is a trick I've used to put my go too plasterers mind at rest, Perry is so good and expensive I do all his prep for him, this then allows him to go that extra mile and plaster to within 15 mm of the floor so I can get good skirting fixings without any hollows for the subsequent vacuum cleaner to batter the life out of it,, good plasterers are hard to find ♥️👍
im a fair few trades and maybe a couple of years ;) behind james but his philosophy is exactly how i do it. happy on my own doing as much as i can and doing it in my own time as such. cracking as always guys
Nice bit of plastering James , enjoyed that 👌🏼. You never learn unless your asking questions 🧱👍🏼
As a DIYer, I'll have a go at most things but plastering is not one of them! You did a great job there and made it look easy but that's where the skill counts. Thanks for sharing.
I've had plasterers in recently and I wish they'd left such a lovely clean finish as this chap. Good job!
The fact he can do everything to a high standard is inspirational. I'm a carpenter by trade and also dab in other trades, it may take a bit longer to do them but with care the standard can still remain the same.
"Half the battle is getting it off the hawk and onto the wall without dropping it on the floor" - too right! Thanks, very useful to watch.
Awesome work James love the attention to detail all the best Tony 👍
Cheers Tony.
Gifted man, thanks for the video Roger
This is such a good talk it's exactly how I learnt then wanted to leave then got back into it and now I'm doing huge jobs. Good work.
Pva tip 2...chuck a couple of handfuls of thistle in it and stir it in, you can see where you have been and it's great to work on!
Or little drips of food colouring :-)
Rodger I throughly enjoyed that. No heir and graces or billy big Bo#locks just a honest guy doing a cracking job.
Yes! I love Harry’s, the plastering was good too. You don’t see this too much in the states, mostly paint straight on the drywall or spraying texture.
Great job Lads!
Look how young James looks, lockdown has been hard on him bless him 🤣
One second I’m watching James PVA with his paintbrush, I look down to take a mouthful of my dinner and look back up to roger in his bathroom shaving! That was a shock 😂
Sorry George that should have come with a warning
Nice work, and nice guys. Thanks.
Very interesting video nice one. Have to say I was somewhat sidetracked by Roger having a shave, towards the end I was expecting him to splash on some old spice with carina burana (old spice music) in the background.
Once again good, informative video. 👍
yes you can James, i have a picture of a bathroom ceiling and other jobs we done in one coat of finish. but you need to rub up well & we never use pva & have never had a problem.
Yet
Wow, well done for getting some finish plaster. I have not been able to get any
In desperation, I bought a few 25kg bags of 'Makegood multi-skim' from B&Q. I reckon it's British Gypsum Multifinish in a different bag. 100% identical in every respect, and reasonably cheap, too. My local branch had pallets and pallets of the stuff. Ironically all of the other 'Makegood' products come in the same coloured bag - orange for multi - purple for bonding - green for dot & dab etc ...
When we use pva we put a bit of multi in it which gives it grit and colour. Works great.
Tom Good tip
@@SkillBuilder Food colouring works a treat as well, small drop in the pva
What a decent chap James is EH? ....... A great Ambassador for the Tradesman/Woman :-)
Great video and great job guys. Thanks for sharing
Great work, well done.
That was Awesome
You boys down south drinking some proper tea 👍😉
Yes we are. We love that Yorkshire tea and have a good contact in the Yorkshire tea plantations. She smuggles out a few leaves every day.
Most definitely can get an excellent finish from 1 coating depending on the surface and the bubbling over the bonding just trowels out with a clean wet trowel right before using the flexi to finish
Lovely job though
A really enjoyable watch as always, thank you Skill Builder. Ignore the small number of naysayers, James, you’re a fantastic tradesman. Awesome team.
Thanks Phil, much appreciated.
If I have too, I've put red sand in pva for a key and it works a treat
I remember in the first video (I think) and you said that he does everything, you weren't wrong it seems. That paid ad was so bizarre too, but if it pays to keep the channel going I'll watch a few of them now and again.
Thanks for your support. It costs a lot to get this channel out.
Skill Builder this is a great channel, Ive really enjoyed watching the Capel build. When is the next episode out?
add some food colour dye green or red to pva no misses
A CLEAN floor is all a labourer wants from his plasterer
Cracking job!
Bloody hell roger you shaving advert was interrupted buy an advert
Put food colour in the PVA and water mix, you can see where you’ve been then.
Good work 1st coat looks flat and neat
Quick tip. Screw. Screw them in then use a magnet to find them when plaster goes of. Keep up the good work
That’s brilliant! Thanks Gary, I’ll definitely use that one in future. 👍
I also take a plumb line to the bottom and mark it on the skirt or floor and record the distance so it's easier to find. And also dig alout the screws as soon as the plaster's set as its a pain when it's cured.
That's a coincidence, I ordered my first set of Harry's razors only yesterday. Hope they are as good as you say, Roger.
Total crap they didn’t last a third of my Gillette blades, pay for wat u get
I am new to house building. Can you tell me if I can put plaster over drywall? I like the way it looks. I as thinking of putting a mesh under it to reinforce it and keep it on the walls. Thanks.
Yes you can plaster over drywall. It is called skimming in the U.K and it is done all the time. We scrim the joints with fibreglass mesh and then put two coats on the way James is doing here.
Harry's now owned by Wilkinson Sword so don't expect it to last as surely it competes with Wilkinson Sword itself.
Do you guys have any tips for replacing broken plaster/cement on the lintel above a door? I lost a big chunk of mine when drilling to mount a panel above my back door and have never gotten around to fixing it. It's about 250mm long then about 100mm from the edge to the door,. Could probably fit a plasterboard sheet but I'd rather do it properly.
I quite like sticking plasterboard onto lintels because it stays in one piece but if you are putting up a wet coat then Carlite Bonding has to be the best bet followed up by multi finish. You can buy small bags of both.
This bloke and Roger et. al are the salt of the earth but you have to find them in the first place - that's the rub.
Hi Nick
It is great that we can find genuine people who are good at the their trade or, in the case of James that would be trades.
Totally agree. Pity the same can't be said for advertising agents in their search for actors selling shaving products. 😅
Horses for course on plastering even after 22 years plastering I still find everyone is an expert as long as the end result is the same I can’t see the reason for arguing
plasterers often believe that they way they do it is the only way. It is a form of fundamentalism. Good to hear from someone with a more balanced intelligent view.
@@SkillBuilder I’m apprentice trained and at one point thought my way was the best way but picked up so much stuff from others I done city and guilds level 3 and met some of the best tradesmen ever and we all know good work and bad work but for me the end result is what matters all this willy waving I’m earning 1000 a week every week and that they are the best becomes tiresome i recently watch dan on your channel doing herringbone noggings what a tradesman he is, oh and roger don’t give up the building work Cos your acting skills won’t pay the bills like your building work does 😂take care lads speak soon
You have multi finish !!!
I know I was going to say that
Must be a £30 bag off ebay past its use by date
Rocking horse poo is easier to get hold of.
In desperation, I bought a few 25kg bags of 'Makegood multi-skim' from B&Q. I reckon it's British Gypsum Multifinish in a different bag. 100% identical in every respect, and reasonably cheap, too. My local branch had pallets and pallets of the stuff. Ironically all of the other 'Makegood' products come in the same coloured bag - orange for multi - purple for bonding - green for dot & dab etc ...
100% right with the blue grit been known to fail and ruins trowels and like you say pva tried and tested since year dot
So I genuinely like Gillette razor blades, not tried Harry's but beyond what Rodger is saying does anyone else have experience? Gilletes expensive but I do they're the best or most comfortable.
Nice and neat that's what we're like speed will come later on
l have lots of top trade tips as l am a builder for over 25+ years
when l use Polyvinyl acetate PVA l put red liquid brick dye the concentrated one or any colour you like to use yellow is a good colour to use only put a little bit in at a time as you are using concentrated liquid brick dye in the water mix it up then add your PVA then give it a good mix you will never miss any parts of the wall or ceilings or any area which you are going to be using the PVA again
happy plastering everybody from a good old-fashioned Builder
Roger, you say you haven't got any mates...
But I'd say James and Rob are a good start! 🙂
Ha! Don't feel too sorry for me. I don't really cultivate friends. We were talking about working for friends and James was saying he doesn't mind working for friends. I find it difficult to charge them the full rate so I would rather avoid it. I used to have plumber written on my van and all my neighbours would be knocking on my door getting me to sort out there problems or asking if they could borrow tools. You would be amazed how many people think that me spending two hours in their house can be squared up with a bottle of supermarket red wine. If nobody turns up at my funeral I won't mind in the least.
@@SkillBuilder hahah come on Rog what’s life about then? Making sure you can charge everyone at full rate?
Do British houses use drywall much? Also nice video, that guy has skill.
New build is mostly drywall but we still skim quite a lot
Yeah on our ceilings
Ground floor is brought up in blockwork most of the time and then depending on the structure one to a few of them are then brought up from ground level to wall plate level. Remainder are done with studwork and PB.
Where did you get that plaster from?
Haha yeah mate could do with some around here too. Hopefully shortage ends soon
This video should have been called 'Business pro tips for builders while someone does some plastering'
Time on a job and pride in it too has been sucked out of the trades along with quality on site
Tight prices equal poor quality
So fair play to you bud for putting it on a time fit for quality not quantity
And try marshalltown flexy steel trowels instead of refines plassi bud
Thanks Robert, I’ll give the marshaltown a go.
What is the base layer material that the PVA is going on to? Old painted plaster/plasterboard?
It’s on to old painted plaster.
Dirty water helps the bonding go off quicker
do they sell those razors in Selco?
Your making that plastering look hard work. 10 / 10 for effert though.
I stopped using pva years ago and switched to sbr, yes it’s expensive but dries quicker has a better tack than pva, pva can fail over time as it’s just a glue that can peel and flake.
I would agree with you about SBR for exteriors but for gypsum the water soluable PVA allows it to re-emulsify when you apply the plaster and that helps create a better bond. If you use SBR you need it to be tacky or you need to mix it with some grit to form a mechanical key but it then needs to dry overnight before you apply the plaster. Also removing splashes of SBR from skirtings etc has to be done quickly.
Skill Builder I normally tape up and take it easy applying the sbr, also I find the suction on each job different so either run a wetter mix or used to do 2 or 3 pva coats for good troweling. Love the video regardless, love all the videos, Tbh. Thanks for the work you and Robin do👍
The only trowel you really need is the one you put on with. Cream of tartar is cheaper than extra time too and dirty water for a quick set is free 👍
Yep. And a hand saw is cheaper than a Festool plunge saw, a chisel is cheaper than a router, and a brace & bit is cheaper than a Hilti combi with an auger in it. It's called progress, mate......
@@KevinBower-gy5be but we are on about spending a few quid a gauge on extra time when you can buy the equivalent for 80p and that would last a few days. Not the same as tools getting better really is it..would you spend extra unnecessarily just because it's in a nice little packet then and that's the only difference?
James is great
How long do you typically wait between coats?? (I know obviously Temp plays a part) any tips???
15-20 mins
There is no typical, sometimes it’s 5 minutes, sometimes it’s half an hour. Just test it by touch, if it’s still got a sheen but doesn’t stick to your finger, second coat it, it its sticking to your finger then it’s too wet
Rodger "I haven't got any friends!" Id like to say i'm one of 292,000!
Thanks Simon. It is true that I don't have that many friends, I don't tend to cultivate them, but my wife has loads of really good friends and I have just spend the last two day in one of their houses power flushing and sorting out their heating. She is now basking in the warm glow of their gratitude.
Looks like an extra 3 or 4 mm added to that surface!!
You are not wrong but it worked out fine
I used to be fast. Never counted the bags. I'm a 5 bag a day now lol at best. Quality first lads
What make and size of trowel are you using?
Looks like Marshalltown
14x5 Marshalltown permashape stainless steel
Took me longer to clean up than it took my plasterer to plaster lol
Matchsticks for the screw holes, saves edge of the plastics... sponge all the way
Good tip
@@SkillBuilder 🤣
Absolute pleasure to watch. Keep doing what your doing. 👍👍👍
Thank you.
2 bags open at today's prices, what was he thinking
He is looking for the Golden Ticket.
@@SkillBuilder lol. great vids. wish all tradesmen were like you guys.
The shortage is a pain, took a chance on an old bag of bonding and it was useless.
We were very fortunate during lockdown and got a tip off that a merchant was getting a delivery of multi so we jumped on it and got it for £10 a bag
👍
What can’t this bloke do?!
He isn't that clued up on building web sites. thesupremefinishingcompany.co.uk/photo-gallery
but we can fix that.
How annoying, I got an Ad smack in the middle of your Ad.
U be bining that plazi off for a carta 101 easyskim trowel 👍
Why is your plaster brown in the UK? Shouldn't it be white?
We have white, grey and brown
Put food colouring into PVA.
does it show through the plaster?
That is genius
Where's the pro tips
Sponge floating weakens the plaster... its brings all the aggregate out if the mix... its a cowboy move for spreads who cant get thier timings down
Purely out of interest, where does the aggregate that has come out of the mix go? And does it mean that the plaster will fall off the wall/ceiling?
Thanks in advance.
Totally agree it weakens and cracks looks like a cracked mirror you can see the aggregate on the surface
Pure bollocks
What a load of shit you obviously haven’t a clue what you’re on about.
@@jimichip he's talking shit mate. stick to what works for you
You don't need to piss about with the first coat put it on right then lay down .work smarter not harder
Thanks Luke, I’ll bear that in mind.
I agree luke, when the first coat is on I’ll give a real quick flatten , literally a fly over , then wait around to put the second on
Wet corner 🙄
It can be done if you are good enough
I prefer a wet corner; it keeps it neat.
Ahh just like the good old days dump everything in the yard because why bother with a skip if you can just have a giant pile of rubble.
Not a bit of it. The rubble is there for the hardcore which goes under the patio. Hire in a mini crusher munch it up and you have the kind of base material that costs £40.00 per cu mtr at your merchants. I have seen so many people put it in skips and then buy in Type 1 a few weeks later.
@@SkillBuilder Can you show us a mini crusher? Never seen such a thing
The walls didn't need plastering in the first place
Probably not but it made my plastering look really good! 😂
I dread to think what that looks like close up. The fact you didnt take the sockets and switches off completely says it all. sorry but ive got to say it as i see it.
Any half decent plasterer can work around sockets and switches, what planet are you on? I dont agree with flattening with a plastic as it won’t actually flatten it, and it looks way too dry by the time he second coats it, but you really can’t tell fuck all from behind the screen. You’re just being a knob
At 8:20... that chunk of rough timber up against that lovely plaster of Paris arch... ua-cam.com/video/_jt5wNTTb_E/v-deo.html
That is a Speedskim resting on the wall, not touching the plaster moulding. Did it damage it? No
@@SkillBuilder take no notice, always a snob about
don't you use knee pads dear me no knees in few years
Does Roger do anything practical anymore? Or is he just a camera man now.
Hi Dan
It is very hard to film myself but I have a few projects on the go that will be out soon.
That said my aim is to take a backseat and leave it to the younger guys. We have some good guys coming through in the next few months.
Got too lv it when their is shite in your way,
MADE IN ENGLAND
Shave off.
Pva is crap now that's why it only cost £5 compared to £20 years ago.
Actually it doesn't need to be that good to do the job. Pour some watered down cheap stuff on a slab and see how hard it is to remove.
@@SkillBuilder but we are talking about gypsum that eats through copper over time
@@rhysevans7903 Rhys
I don't understand. The chases are for cables. I would always protect copper against cement or plaster. I have never thought of pva as protection against corrosion,
@@SkillBuilder you mentioned it doesn't need to be that good to do the job,,,but plaster can eat copper so you would think that a decent adhesive would be kinda important... pva is still ok I'm just getting to the point that blue grit was made to help stabilise the back ground it put onto that's why it's a better product.
@@rhysevans7903 Can you use blue grit on tiles in bathroom? Save removing all the tiles?
How slow like
I like to take my time and enjoy the job😌