i had the best experience in my life with Simforge customer service, every question or problem they solved almost immidietly, i mount my pedals inverted and they got me a special solution for the angle of the plates, those guys are amazing! and still the best purchuse for my rig so far(price+performance)
Hey man, My simforge pedals have just arrived and i am also wanting to invert them, could u make a video on them please. It would be much appreciated as my style is also drift/ rally etc
Just wanted to follow up, and say they have been amazing. Ordered them in the July 2022 order and got them in Aug 2022. They have been incredible, and everything about them is excellent. They aren't $330 in the US, closer to $525 after shipping. (It's like 30lbs of steel being mailed to you!) But, even at that price they are still a fantastic deal and near unbeatable at the cost. Other than going up another $100 and getting Husk Sprints, there really is no comparison.
These pedals are incredible for the price. I had just purchased my ClubSport V3 pedals about a month before your previous review on these and I regret not seeing them before. For a premium pedal the price is soooo good on these SimForge pedals
@@runofthemillz I have the Sprints and I'm very pleased with them. Especially the adjustability is of the charts. You can make the brake as stiff or as soft as you like, same goes for travel. The throttle is very good too. Clutch same. The build quality, software, packaging, supplied tools is all top notch. My previous pedals were Fanatec CSR load cell and CSL loadcell (those were terrible IMO). The Sprints feel like another league entirely. Highly recommend them over the v3's.
Simforge Mark-1's are Fanatec Killers and Heusinveld Challengers. They're definitely superior to V3's and Sprints . On par with the Ultimates. Had to sell most of my gear during the lockdown and it was no brainer which pedals I wanted to go for to get back into sim racing. In some features they exceed the Ultimates. The adjustability in the Foot rest is superb . Makes them more comfortable to use in long stints. I've been using these for almost 4 months now. I'm am more consistent in my lap times with these than they were with my previous pedals. The Brake feel is good. Really Good. I rarely lockup anymore. Driving in and out of corners is a smooth . Kudos to their customer support guy Sachin . They reply within minutes . I had few questions about the calibration which I emailed them on a Sunday evening thinking I'll be getting the reply the next day and got the reply in like 10 minutes. To every email that followed , the reply was within 10 minutes. Literally the fastest customer support I've experienced. Highly Recommended. As always nice review Barry. All hail the sim racing Jesus.
@@runofthemillz Without a doubt. As I said, they're on par with the Ultimates. For 1/4th the price it's a no brainer. 24 bit resolution makes it so good. Hard to describe
You can't judge the effect of filtering by determining the resolution range. The filtering would be done on the input signal, while the resolution is determined by its output. By filtering you lose precision because the amplitude is less extreme. Calculating the output step range gives as much information as saying that both an 8-bit and 16bit interface have a 0-100 percentage range. The 0-100 range is the same for both interfaces, but one has more precision than the other. Both only say something about the output signal, it has no relevance on the input signal that is filtered by some logic. The PIC processor is a simple microprocessor and only has a very basic instruction set. That makes me believe the filtering is done between the ad converters and the microprocessor. The simplest filtering is just a divide,round,multiple instruction. Let's say you have a input value of 10012. A simple filter would divide 10012 by 10 = 1001.2, round it (1001.0) and then multiply it with 10 to get 10010. Any raw value between 10006 and 10014 (inclusive) would result in an output of 10010. Filter ranges 0-5 just change the number of the filter and it doesn't change the resolution range itself, but more the sensitivity (the range is more of a block form than a thru linear range). Usually odd numbers are used for the dividers (seems more 'random' to people) like 1, 3, 6, 7, 9 and 13 for example. Value of 1 would disable any filtering. Also if you want to avoid EMI interference you need more than just input filtering because the cord of the pedal will pickup way more interference from magnetic fields than any circuit board on it self. The easiest way to avoid interference is a shortening the cable length as much as possible and to use a shielded cable.
@@HugoWheelieboy5 Can't fault the pedals at all. The electronics work and the hardware hasn't failed on me. Everything is very solid. I run motion and a DD1 and have not had any issues with interference. The 80KG LC is plenty for me and the pedal setup out of the box felt fine. I don't have a lot of experience with other pedals other than cheap entry level, but I would say these were definitely worth the price.
I have ordered a set for a Christmas present for myself. I am in Oz. $250 postage for the pedals only. I have a G29 at the moment. I guess this will be a significant upgrade. And make me happy.
I find it curious that Barry is impressed by the electronics. They only use two of the four available channels of the ADS1115 A/D converter (mounted on a long-legged (think antennas) riser board!) and then introduce another chip with integrated amplifier and A/D converter to "save an amplifying circuit and combat RFI/EMI?" It's a wasteful design and it looks like an amateur beginner project. Usually for RFI/EMI mitigation you'd use the shortest possible traces and wires on your circuit, shield the circuit board, and use passive filters on the wires connected to the outside.
HX711 is the standard board used in many digital scales, dirt cheap and custom designed for load cell bridge circuits. Not "reinventing the wheel" is good engineering economics.
Consider filtering more like a treble tone control than a volume control, reducing sensitivity to higher frequency changes. FWIW, notice the angle on Barry's throttle spring; it should be adjusted to be more perpendicular to throttle movement for better linearity at full throttle. That HX711 board is optimized for load cells and used e.g. in many digital scales.
Got my Simforge pedals yesterday and used your video to help with the setup process, it was no issues until I got to the point of configuring them in iRacing. When I go thru the Configure setup all 3 pedals are showing data but when I finish it is not showing the brake pedal? Do you have any hints or a link to a video that might help me out with this issue? TIA Keep up the great reviews.
hey @SimRacingGarage could you do a video of all the sim rigs for different budgets and ones you would recommend i am going to build a rig and have decided on most of the equipment but no clue what rig to buy and i have a feeling that it will be one of the most important parts
@@tcfirebird78 I don't think he gets paid directly. They just let him keep the stuff and he sells most of it. And if he's overly critical, they'll stop sending him stuff. That's why he won't direct do comparisons between companies.
@@kingcarrot6355 I dont have a space for a rig yet, so I am gonna get the wheel stand 2.0 and later covert to a rig. just thinking about the size and how that's gonna work with the sprints.
@@kingcarrot6355 Have to agree. have the Sprints (actually just bought my second pair since I sold my entire rig a year ago and now I have been buying it all back) for a while now and they are great on every level - hardware, software, customer service, supplied tooling all top notch. Costly, but not so much if you consider them as your last set of pedals. Especially if you really like a stiff brake pedal which is sort of impossible with the v3's.
I just cancelled my v3 pedals order for there. I don't have clue about feeling between them but I'm telling you that they look better in my opinion, and most important is the adjustability that you can do with them, like mounting them inverted wouldn't be as hard as on the v3. Surely buying these instead of the v3. Simforge support answers quickly and they care about their product, I'm honestly impressed.
The worst purchase I ever made on sim racing gear was the first gen. The worst customer service I have ever experienced. Do yourself a favor and spend a little more for the Heusinkveld gear, great customer service and support through their dealers. There are so many other good options out there now to try why take a chance?
for me i had the best experience in my life with Simforge customer service, every question or problem they solved and response in less the 2 hours, mine are mount inverted and they got me a special solution for the plates, sorry for your experince but for me those guys are amazing and still the best purchuse for my rig so far(price+performance)
Same, even the recent ones aren't great. Cheap electronics. Customer service could be great.. I wouldn't want to live with a faulty product just cos I'm getting good customer service
I can vouch for the Sprints. Great set, great build quality, software and customer service. Had bought them twice now (had to sell my whole rig a year back due to financial reasons) and both times very consistent experience. Plenty of adjustability - brake stiffness/softness as well as pedals angle etc. Highly recommended.
These electronics look so horribly designed I wouldn’t buy these pedals no matter how good a deal they are. Man I could spin up a board that’s more EMI compliant and more professional looking in a day, and they seriously sell this in a product?? Using leaded components is a horrible idea if you have EMI problems, not even talking about using cheap modules.. and it looks freaking horrible. Simforge, contact me and I’ll design you a new board in exchange for a set or two of pedals.
i had the best experience in my life with Simforge customer service, every question or problem they solved almost immidietly, i mount my pedals inverted and they got me a special solution for the angle of the plates, those guys are amazing! and still the best purchuse for my rig so far(price+performance)
Thanks, Hope it will work same for me, Buying Now
🙂
Why inverted? Just curious to hear your thoughts @Shiko SimRacing
@@rayaguilar9085 my sim racing driving style is more street\drift
Hey man, My simforge pedals have just arrived and i am also wanting to invert them, could u make a video on them please. It would be much appreciated as my style is also drift/ rally etc
Had I not already bought a set of Heusinkveld sprint I would give these a serious look. Talk about a great set of pedals for the price
Thank for the review Barry! Because of your first one, and this follow up, I now have a pair ordered!
Just wanted to follow up, and say they have been amazing. Ordered them in the July 2022 order and got them in Aug 2022. They have been incredible, and everything about them is excellent.
They aren't $330 in the US, closer to $525 after shipping. (It's like 30lbs of steel being mailed to you!)
But, even at that price they are still a fantastic deal and near unbeatable at the cost. Other than going up another $100 and getting Husk Sprints, there really is no comparison.
These pedals are incredible for the price. I had just purchased my ClubSport V3 pedals about a month before your previous review on these and I regret not seeing them before. For a premium pedal the price is soooo good on these SimForge pedals
So get these over some v3s or sprints?
@@runofthemillz I have the Sprints and I'm very pleased with them. Especially the adjustability is of the charts. You can make the brake as stiff or as soft as you like, same goes for travel. The throttle is very good too. Clutch same. The build quality, software, packaging, supplied tools is all top notch. My previous pedals were Fanatec CSR load cell and CSL loadcell (those were terrible IMO). The Sprints feel like another league entirely. Highly recommend them over the v3's.
Exactly what I think of:) canceling my v3 pedals and get these:)
What were the differences between the 2? And which of the 2 were better?
Simforge Mark-1's are Fanatec Killers and Heusinveld Challengers. They're definitely superior to V3's and Sprints . On par with the Ultimates. Had to sell most of my gear during the lockdown and it was no brainer which pedals I wanted to go for to get back into sim racing. In some features they exceed the Ultimates. The adjustability in the Foot rest is superb . Makes them more comfortable to use in long stints. I've been using these for almost 4 months now. I'm am more consistent in my lap times with these than they were with my previous pedals. The Brake feel is good. Really Good. I rarely lockup anymore. Driving in and out of corners is a smooth .
Kudos to their customer support guy Sachin . They reply within minutes . I had few questions about the calibration which I emailed them on a Sunday evening thinking I'll be getting the reply the next day and got the reply in like 10 minutes. To every email that followed , the reply was within 10 minutes. Literally the fastest customer support I've experienced. Highly Recommended.
As always nice review Barry. All hail the sim racing Jesus.
did they finish the software yet? i hate using dyiview
Soooo, don’t get v3s or sprints? I was looking at getting either one as an upgrade from my Logitech pedals
@@mirshia5248 No they haven't.
@@runofthemillz Without a doubt. As I said, they're on par with the Ultimates. For 1/4th the price it's a no brainer. 24 bit resolution makes it so good. Hard to describe
@@runofthemillz The Sprints are great, just beware that racing without shoes is out of the window.
You can't judge the effect of filtering by determining the resolution range. The filtering would be done on the input signal, while the resolution is determined by its output.
By filtering you lose precision because the amplitude is less extreme. Calculating the output step range gives as much information as saying that both an 8-bit and 16bit interface have a 0-100 percentage range. The 0-100 range is the same for both interfaces, but one has more precision than the other. Both only say something about the output signal, it has no relevance on the input signal that is filtered by some logic. The PIC processor is a simple microprocessor and only has a very basic instruction set. That makes me believe the filtering is done between the ad converters and the microprocessor. The simplest filtering is just a divide,round,multiple instruction. Let's say you have a input value of 10012. A simple filter would divide 10012 by 10 = 1001.2, round it (1001.0) and then multiply it with 10 to get 10010. Any raw value between 10006 and 10014 (inclusive) would result in an output of 10010. Filter ranges 0-5 just change the number of the filter and it doesn't change the resolution range itself, but more the sensitivity (the range is more of a block form than a thru linear range). Usually odd numbers are used for the dividers (seems more 'random' to people) like 1, 3, 6, 7, 9 and 13 for example. Value of 1 would disable any filtering.
Also if you want to avoid EMI interference you need more than just input filtering because the cord of the pedal will pickup way more interference from magnetic fields than any circuit board on it self. The easiest way to avoid interference is a shortening the cable length as much as possible and to use a shielded cable.
Just ordered mine because of this review. Can't wait.
worth?
@@HugoWheelieboy5 Can't fault the pedals at all. The electronics work and the hardware hasn't failed on me. Everything is very solid. I run motion and a DD1 and have not had any issues with interference. The 80KG LC is plenty for me and the pedal setup out of the box felt fine. I don't have a lot of experience with other pedals other than cheap entry level, but I would say these were definitely worth the price.
Thankful they delayed shipping the October batch to make these improvements
what would you guys recommend? Fanatec V3 pedals or these Simforge?
I have ordered a set for a Christmas present for myself. I am in Oz. $250 postage for the pedals only. I have a G29 at the moment. I guess this will be a significant upgrade. And make me happy.
Great Video Barry! Has anyone come from V3s and upgraded to these? What was majorly different?
is it worth switching from Fanatec V3s to theese ?
Newbie here upgrading …will these plug into Fanatec wheelbase? Work on X box?
I find it curious that Barry is impressed by the electronics. They only use two of the four available channels of the ADS1115 A/D converter (mounted on a long-legged (think antennas) riser board!) and then introduce another chip with integrated amplifier and A/D converter to "save an amplifying circuit and combat RFI/EMI?" It's a wasteful design and it looks like an amateur beginner project.
Usually for RFI/EMI mitigation you'd use the shortest possible traces and wires on your circuit, shield the circuit board, and use passive filters on the wires connected to the outside.
HX711 is the standard board used in many digital scales, dirt cheap and custom designed for load cell bridge circuits. Not "reinventing the wheel" is good engineering economics.
I see you Using Moza base in the video is that your main Base now?
Filtering should not affect signal range/resolution; it should affect responsiveness (how quickly pedal changes are registered).
Consider filtering more like a treble tone control than a volume control, reducing sensitivity to higher frequency changes. FWIW, notice the angle on Barry's throttle spring; it should be adjusted to be more perpendicular to throttle movement for better linearity at full throttle. That HX711 board is optimized for load cells and used e.g. in many digital scales.
Got my Simforge pedals yesterday and used your video to help with the setup process, it was no issues until I got to the point of configuring them in iRacing. When I go thru the Configure setup all 3 pedals are showing data but when I finish it is not showing the brake pedal? Do you have any hints or a link to a video that might help me out with this issue? TIA
Keep up the great reviews.
Did you fix this, I have the same problem?
@@HectorGarcia-vv2qe Same, did anyone get it sorted?
hey @SimRacingGarage could you do a video of all the sim rigs for different budgets and ones you would recommend i am going to build a rig and have decided on most of the equipment but no clue what rig to buy and i have a feeling that it will be one of the most important parts
Thing is compatiblity isn't mentioned anywhere..will it work with my Fanatec CSL DD Pro and will it work on PC/console?
Will you do a review on the Simagic P2000-S100 pedals?
Let’s say the board fails. Could I use a bondar board to replace this board and still use their hall sensors?
am i able to use this with fanatec wheel base/shifter?
Great non biased video as always.
Ehhhh he still gets paid by these companies to review their products (which there is nothing wrong with). Id still take it with a grain of salt
@@tcfirebird78 I don't think he gets paid directly. They just let him keep the stuff and he sells most of it. And if he's overly critical, they'll stop sending him stuff. That's why he won't direct do comparisons between companies.
So is this worth getting over the Fanatec Clubsport v3 pedals? I am deciding between the two.
Buy sprints instead, and you will never need an upgrade again.
V3 aren't all that tbh.
@@kingcarrot6355 I dont have a space for a rig yet, so I am gonna get the wheel stand 2.0 and later covert to a rig. just thinking about the size and how that's gonna work with the sprints.
@@kingcarrot6355 Have to agree. have the Sprints (actually just bought my second pair since I sold my entire rig a year ago and now I have been buying it all back) for a while now and they are great on every level - hardware, software, customer service, supplied tooling all top notch. Costly, but not so much if you consider them as your last set of pedals. Especially if you really like a stiff brake pedal which is sort of impossible with the v3's.
mine came with the brake bend on the side and simforge didnt compensate me
Can u use them as 2-pedal only?
Barry is a human being CONFIRMED
Top shelf racing shoes. Think I need to get some…
Their website describes clutch and accelerator as 10-bit resolution.
im not sure hx711 is good for highend pedals
Looks like the Moza Prerelease Wheel and the Moza R16 base there, so can we expect a review on the Moza products soon?
Does anyone know if these will work with the PlayStation consoles?
Does the Dark Version the pedals have the new updates? I'm confused.
Both are updated the difference is only base color
Alright, I m gonna get one.
i might get these
I see you using the MOZA :)
Ooooo shiny
good
Has anyone come from v3s to simforges? I’d so I’d love to hear your thoughts on the differences.
I just cancelled my v3 pedals order for there. I don't have clue about feeling between them but I'm telling you that they look better in my opinion, and most important is the adjustability that you can do with them, like mounting them inverted wouldn't be as hard as on the v3. Surely buying these instead of the v3. Simforge support answers quickly and they care about their product, I'm honestly impressed.
@@univers2103 Thank you!! I'm thinking about making the change
Coming from v3s to this,,,still waiting for it to arrive😁
I have gotten mine today, I'll update you if you reply to me on thursday so I remember.
@@mathiasdfg wow youre lucky,,mine is on the way,,but please update us on hows the pedals☺️
Circuit design still looks like designed by a student.
It uses nearly obsolete parts that are still readily available in a constrained market.
Yes, I know him, and he only came up with this in college during Covid.
Was hoping for a P2000 review :/ Amazing review as always though
The worst purchase I ever made on sim racing gear was the first gen. The worst customer service I have ever experienced. Do yourself a favor and spend a little more for the Heusinkveld gear, great customer service and support through their dealers. There are so many other good options out there now to try why take a chance?
same here, bad service
for me i had the best experience in my life with Simforge customer service, every question or problem they solved and response in less the 2 hours, mine are mount inverted and they got me a special solution for the plates, sorry for your experince but for me those guys are amazing and still the best purchuse for my rig so far(price+performance)
Same, even the recent ones aren't great. Cheap electronics. Customer service could be great.. I wouldn't want to live with a faulty product just cos I'm getting good customer service
I can vouch for the Sprints. Great set, great build quality, software and customer service. Had bought them twice now (had to sell my whole rig a year back due to financial reasons) and both times very consistent experience. Plenty of adjustability - brake stiffness/softness as well as pedals angle etc. Highly recommended.
Jeffery Johnson, what was wrong with the product that made it the worst purchase?
first like let's goooo
These electronics look so horribly designed I wouldn’t buy these pedals no matter how good a deal they are. Man I could spin up a board that’s more EMI compliant and more professional looking in a day, and they seriously sell this in a product?? Using leaded components is a horrible idea if you have EMI problems, not even talking about using cheap modules.. and it looks freaking horrible.
Simforge, contact me and I’ll design you a new board in exchange for a set or two of pedals.
Hi can anyone recommend replacement pedals/faces for ProtoSimTech P1s?
I recently bought some Sparco ones but the holes didn’t line up correctly
These vs Sprints?